History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / WebOriginal

18th Jul '16 4:04:35 AM thatmadork
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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side and Martin on the cynical side.

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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin ''Creator/JRRTolkien vs. Creator/GeorgeRRMartin'' battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side of idealism and Martin on the cynical side.side of cynicism. Martin is a TrollingCreator who admits to taking glee in killing off beloved characters just to spite his readers, and sneers at the BlackAndWhiteMorality and TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin nature of Tolkien's prose. Tolkien on the other hand is a strong believer in AngstAversion who defends his work with the point that the whole genre is called ''fantasy'', so it doesn't ''have'' to be realistic or overly brutal.
12th Jul '16 5:29:11 AM thatmadork
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is very idealistic despite the nature of the setting: humanity is sequestered into tiny pockets of civilisation as demonic monsters have overrun the planet, but the situation isn't as hopeless as Manga/AttackOnTitan and the presence of effective monster slayers called Huntsmen puts the story well into LovecraftLite territory. However, the events of Volume 3 have pushed the story quite far into the cynical end, as [[spoiler:society has been thrown into chaos by a terrorist attack during a world fighting tournament in which Pyrrha and Penny have perished and the villains have made huge gains, and the titular team of heroines have all to varying degrees been betrayed, disgraced, hurt and placed into terrible situations with their innocence and idealism destroyed - Blake has disappeared without a trace, Weiss has been taken back to Atlas by her domineering and abusive father, Yang is a crippled, depressed empty shell of who she once was, and only Ruby is still fighting and seeking answers.]]
10th Jul '16 5:20:44 PM nombretomado
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* ''ChaosFighters'' is extremely idealistic that everyone fighting at the good side is [[InvincibleHero invincible heroes]], having love interests and their mission is guaranteed a success no matter how hard it is. They can even [[spoiler:destroy armies of demons or bandits by themselves]].

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* ''ChaosFighters'' ''Literature/ChaosFighters'' is extremely idealistic that everyone fighting at the good side is [[InvincibleHero invincible heroes]], having love interests and their mission is guaranteed a success no matter how hard it is. They can even [[spoiler:destroy armies of demons or bandits by themselves]].
1st Jun '16 6:12:53 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Enough people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both...however, there are enough good-hearted people and ideas to balance out the {{Jerkass}}ersy.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Enough Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both...however, there are enough good-hearted people and with their idealistic ideas to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.
1st Jun '16 6:09:02 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario.scenario and the characters in said scenario. Enough people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both...however, there are enough good-hearted people and ideas to balance out the {{Jerkass}}ersy.
17th May '16 2:02:37 PM Piando
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* It can be hard, a lot of the time, to figure out just where ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' is on the overall scale, but it appears to be more towards the cynical side due to the {{downer|Ending}} nature of the endings for the most part and the fact that fate itself seems to crack down on optimistic characters. Hero types usually get themselves killed, and even if they don't die right away they usually see all their friends die first. All escape attempts are brutally crushed, and even [[spoiler:hacking the system and putting in a powerful computer virus that basically destroys all SOTF systems from the inside]] doesn't work until it's too late for anything to be done. By v2, all damage has been fixed, and the systems have been changed so they're literally impenetrable.

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* It can be hard, a lot of the time, to figure out just where ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' is on the overall scale, but it appears to be more towards the cynical side due to the {{downer|Ending}} nature of the endings for the most part and the fact that fate itself seems to crack down on optimistic characters. Hero types usually get themselves killed, and even if they don't die right away they usually see all their friends die first. All escape attempts are brutally crushed, and even [[spoiler:hacking the system and putting in a powerful computer virus that basically destroys all SOTF systems from the inside]] doesn't work until it's too late for anything to be done. By v2, all damage has been fixed, and the systems have been changed so they're literally impenetrable.



* UrbanFantasy series ''BrokenSaints'' eventually ends up on the Idealistic side, but it [[EarnYourHappyEnding covers a lot of ground getting there]].

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* UrbanFantasy series ''BrokenSaints'' ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'' eventually ends up on the Idealistic side, but it [[EarnYourHappyEnding covers a lot of ground getting there]].



* ''ThereWillBeBrawl'' takes the normally-idealistic universe of Nintendo franchises and [[DarkerAndEdgier slams it headlong into the cynical side.]] [[SerialEscalation And then keeps going.]] So cynical that [[ChildrenAreInnocent the most idealistic character]] [[spoiler:gets blown up]], for heavens sake!

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* ''ThereWillBeBrawl'' ''WebVideo/ThereWillBeBrawl'' takes the normally-idealistic universe of Nintendo franchises and [[DarkerAndEdgier slams it headlong into the cynical side.]] [[SerialEscalation And then keeps going.]] So cynical that [[ChildrenAreInnocent the most idealistic character]] [[spoiler:gets blown up]], for heavens sake!



* ''SonicForHire'' tends heavily at the cynical end of the scale.

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* ''SonicForHire'' ''WebAnimation/SonicForHire'' tends heavily at the cynical end of the scale.



* ''EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side and Martin on the cynical side.

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* ''EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side and Martin on the cynical side.
4th May '16 6:14:09 PM Laevatein
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* ''EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side and Martin on the cynical side.
1st May '16 6:55:08 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario.
11th Jan '16 10:34:37 AM deven0711
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* [[http://game.notch.net/drowning/# It's very clear what side of the scale this game is on.]]

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* [[http://game.notch.net/drowning/# It's very clear what side of the scale this game is falls on.]]
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