History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / WebOriginal

16th Aug '17 6:30:38 PM MagiMecha
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** By the time Volume 4, things seem to head back into the idealistic side of things: [[spoiler: Ruby is ultimately unwavering in her idealistic beliefs and is still striving to make them work, Weiss finally abandons her father after losing everything, Blake is given the verbal DopeSlap for her running away antics and seeks to reclaim White Fang from Adam Taurus and Yang is rebuilt physically and mentally and she rushes out to hunt down her wayward sister.]]
9th Apr '17 1:36:10 PM nombretomado
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* ''SailorNothing'' occupies an odd place -- it's ''far'' grimmer than its inspiration ''Franchise/SailorMoon'', but ultimately has a core of idealism. ThePowerOfFriendship plays an important role in keeping the heroine together, and [[spoiler:the key to defeating the BigBad ultimately turns out to be ''forgiveness'']].

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* ''SailorNothing'' ''Literature/SailorNothing'' occupies an odd place -- it's ''far'' grimmer than its inspiration ''Franchise/SailorMoon'', but ultimately has a core of idealism. ThePowerOfFriendship plays an important role in keeping the heroine together, and [[spoiler:the key to defeating the BigBad ultimately turns out to be ''forgiveness'']].
2nd Mar '17 12:02:25 AM EricW
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* ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' is interesting because its placement on the scale is all over the place. The very nature of the show is cynical due to it being "Where Bad Comics Burn", but on the other hand, Linkara has often stated that part of the purpose of the show is so to teach people how to make good comics by pointing out the bad parts of bad comics and why they don't work. In the greater story arcs, the universe Linkara lives in is full of EldritchAbomination outer gods, MultiverseralConqueror visitors, evil cults and the occasional MadScientist. And something does try to kill him every year. And yet he's also got a team of TrueCompanions that will always back him up, stories of redemption and family, and in the end, triumph over adversity is a greater theme in his storylines more than failure is.
30th Dec '16 8:57:17 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ways to help balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ways to help balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy. Its little brother show, ''WebAnimation/DrHavocsDiary'', on the other hand, falls a bit further onto the Cynical, gritty side of things while still retaining the GrayAndGreyMorality.
5th Dec '16 12:26:20 PM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ways to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ways to help balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.
29th Nov '16 3:17:38 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''Roleplay/RubyQuest'' is pretty dang high on the idealistic side for a CosmicHorrorStory about a medical facility that fell to madness and BodyHorror when they tried to exploit a strange substance as a cure. And yet, despite the zombies attacking, anyone who's injured mutating and losing their minds, and [[TheDreaded Ace]], the story also shows that the monsters can be defeated, Ruby and Tom really can trust each other, and people ''can'' be saved. [[spoiler: By the end, Red has killed himself permanently, therefore exiting the Glen on his own terms, Bella is also permanently dead and thus out of her AndIMustScream situation, and Ruby and Tom have freed Jay, another sane prisoner, and all three have escaped the Metal Glen. The final panel shows that Daisy (who'd died early on as the Hound Zombie, a monster who attacked Ruby) has come BackFromTheDead and now might have her own chance to escape the Glen.]]
7th Nov '16 12:14:55 PM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ideas to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ideas ways to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.
3rd Nov '16 2:55:27 PM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both...however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ideas to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'' tends to fall falls onto the middle part of the scale, with a tendency to bounce back and forth depending on the scenario and the characters in said scenario. Many people in this show are either jerks, idiotic, or both... however, there are enough good-hearted people with their idealistic ideas to balance out the cynical {{Jerkass}}ersy.
29th Oct '16 12:57:16 PM nombretomado
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* As quoted above, ''WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog'' shows us why, exactly, it's called the '''{{Sliding|ScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism}}''' [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Scale of Idealism Vs. Cynicism]] by going back and forth between the two with reckless abandon. The most pronounced example may be the song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKm7mxGV6w "My Eyes" (also known as "On The Rise")]], which is practically a duet between idealism and cynicism. (And yes, that is [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Neil Patrick Harris]] and [[TheGuild Felicia Day]] with [[Series/{{Firefly}} Nathan Fillion]] sitting in the background.)

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* As quoted above, ''WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog'' shows us why, exactly, it's called the '''{{Sliding|ScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism}}''' [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Scale of Idealism Vs. Cynicism]] by going back and forth between the two with reckless abandon. The most pronounced example may be the song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKm7mxGV6w "My Eyes" (also known as "On The Rise")]], which is practically a duet between idealism and cynicism. (And yes, that is [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Neil Patrick Harris]] and [[TheGuild [[WebVideo/TheGuild Felicia Day]] with [[Series/{{Firefly}} Nathan Fillion]] sitting in the background.)
18th Jul '16 4:04:35 AM thatmadork
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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side and Martin on the cynical side.

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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'''s JRRTolkien vs GeorgeRRMartin ''Creator/JRRTolkien vs. Creator/GeorgeRRMartin'' battle has Tolkien on the Idealistic side of idealism and Martin on the cynical side.side of cynicism. Martin is a TrollingCreator who admits to taking glee in killing off beloved characters just to spite his readers, and sneers at the BlackAndWhiteMorality and TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin nature of Tolkien's prose. Tolkien on the other hand is a strong believer in AngstAversion who defends his work with the point that the whole genre is called ''fantasy'', so it doesn't ''have'' to be realistic or overly brutal.
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