History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / AnimeAndManga

13th Dec '17 1:32:58 PM nanakiro
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** ''[[VideoGame/PrettyRhythmAuroraDream Pretty Rhythm]]'' series and ''VideoGame/PriPara'', its spiritual successor are very dramatic and things tend to take a dramatic turn here and there before they are finally resolved in a way that is good for most of the people involved. Pretty much sit at the middle of this scale.

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** ''[[VideoGame/PrettyRhythmAuroraDream Pretty Rhythm]]'' ''Franchise/PrettyRhythm'' series and ''VideoGame/PriPara'', its spiritual successor are very dramatic and things tend to take a dramatic turn here and there before they are finally resolved in a way that is good for most of the people involved. Pretty much sit at the middle of this scale.
8th Nov '17 2:00:14 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Post Disaster]] is perhaps one of the most cynical settings, even if put in comparison to the darker titles. Taking place in a setting where children are treated as worth less than dirt and have a short life expectancy. Orga's attempt to survive as they form the group Tekkadan ultimately puts them in an idealist end during the end of the first season. How it only comes crashing down fully cynically as he and many others die in a futile coup against the BigBad of the series and Tekkadan is forever vilified as a result of aligning themselves with McGillis. While some of the secondary members of Tekkadan were spared, all the main characters in Tekkadan would perish from the struggle and the antagonist emerging victorious and the surviving idealists also becoming fully cynical in process.

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** The [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Post Disaster]] is perhaps one of the most cynical settings, even if put in comparison to the darker titles. Taking place in a setting where children are treated as worth less than dirt and have a short life expectancy. Orga's attempt to survive as they form the group Tekkadan ultimately puts them in an idealist end during the end of the first season. How it only comes crashing down fully cynically as he and many others die in a futile coup against the BigBad of the series and Tekkadan is forever vilified as a result of aligning themselves with McGillis.[=McGillis=]. While some of the secondary members of Tekkadan were spared, all the main characters in Tekkadan would perish from the struggle and the antagonist emerging victorious and the surviving idealists also becoming fully cynical in process.



** Then came [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], and Kyubey's and Homura's attempts to outdo each other drove the cynicsm UpToEleven.

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** Then came [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', and Kyubey's and Homura's attempts to outdo each other drove the cynicsm UpToEleven.
5th Oct '17 7:20:09 PM MackWylde
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* SatoshiKon 's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent and PerfectBlue are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MilleniumActress, and most likely his unfinished film TheDresmMachine are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika is smack in the middle.

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* SatoshiKon 's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent and PerfectBlue are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MilleniumActress, MillenniumActress, and most likely his unfinished film TheDresmMachine TheDreamMachine are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika is smack in the middle.
5th Oct '17 5:11:22 AM siamesecatman444
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.
4th Oct '17 8:17:32 PM MackWylde
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.
4th Oct '17 5:22:11 PM siamesecatman444
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.
4th Oct '17 5:19:23 PM siamesecatman444
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise involves real-life crimal activities.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise involves real-life crimal activities.criminal activities and mental illnesses.
4th Oct '17 5:18:48 PM siamesecatman444
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* Most YuGiOh series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. YuGiOhArcV however is all over the place on the scale.

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* Most YuGiOh ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. YuGiOhArcV however ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale.scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise involves real-life crimal activities.
4th Oct '17 6:20:08 AM MackWylde
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* Most YuGiOh series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. YuGiOhARC-V however is all over the place on the scale.

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* Most YuGiOh series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. YuGiOhARC-V YuGiOhArcV however is all over the place on the scale.
4th Oct '17 6:19:34 AM MackWylde
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