History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / AnimeAndManga

23rd Mar '18 10:06:19 AM SreeAnimeFan
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* ''Anime/Servamp'', being a shonen/josei hybrid, tends to lapse more towards the idealistic side. Sometimes, things may seem broken, but we could fix it. This was exactly the case with Kuro, who regretted his choice all the time. His more idealistic Eve Mahiru pulls him out of his depression.

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* ''Anime/Servamp'', ''{{Servamp}}'', being a shonen/josei hybrid, tends to lapse more towards the idealistic side. Sometimes, things may seem broken, but we could fix it. This was exactly the case with Kuro, who regretted his choice all the time. His more idealistic Eve Mahiru pulls him out of his depression.
23rd Mar '18 10:01:57 AM SreeAnimeFan
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* ''Anime/Servamp'', being a shonen/josei hybrid, tends to lapse more towards the idealistic side. Sometimes, things may seem broken, but we could fix it. This was exactly the case with Kuro, who regretted his choice all the time. His more idealistic Eve Mahiru pulls him out of his depression.
** One more such pair is Licht and his Servamp, Lawless. The latter is very cynical and thinks of humans as fragile, but his eve disagrees with his mindset. Licht is very idealistic, and believes firmly that there is noting like talent, and if one tries hard enough they can do anything. Their opposite mindsets cause them to clash a LOT.
22nd Mar '18 4:35:05 PM WillBGood
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* SatoshiKon 's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent and PerfectBlue are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MillenniumActress, and most likely his unfinished film TheDreamMachine are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika is smack in the middle.

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* SatoshiKon 's Creator/SatoshiKon's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent ''Anime/ParanoiaAgent'' and PerfectBlue ''Anime/PerfectBlue'' are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MillenniumActress, ''Anime/TokyoGodfathers'', ''Anime/MillenniumActress'', and most likely his unfinished film TheDreamMachine ''Anime/TheDreamMachine'' are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika ''Anime/{{Paprika}}'' is smack in the middle.
4th Jan '18 3:58:16 PM lalaTKG
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** In all actuality, ''Anime/{{FLCL}}'' (Also made by Studio Gainax) is more akin to being the ''Anti-Eva'' since [[WhiteAndGrayMorality there is no defined villian]], [[CharacterDevelopment A great deal of the characters grow out of their flaws]] and get a mostly HappyEnding. Both were also made in very similar circumstances, with both Hideaki Anno and the rest of Studio Gainax both went through bouts of depression. However, since ''Evangelion'' was responsible for depressing Gainax, through Newton's Third Law, it's counterpart ''FLCL'' was made shortly afterward to counteract it.

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** In all actuality, ''Anime/{{FLCL}}'' (Also made by Studio Gainax) is more akin to being the ''Anti-Eva'' since [[WhiteAndGrayMorality there is no defined villian]], [[CharacterDevelopment A great deal of the characters grow out of their flaws]] and get a mostly HappyEnding. Both were also made in very similar circumstances, with both Hideaki Anno and the rest of Studio Gainax both went through bouts of depression. However, since ''Evangelion'' was responsible for depressing Gainax, through Newton's Third Law, it's its counterpart ''FLCL'' was made shortly afterward to counteract it.
18th Dec '17 6:00:13 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.
13th Dec '17 1:32:58 PM nanakiro
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** ''[[VideoGame/PrettyRhythmAuroraDream Pretty Rhythm]]'' series and ''VideoGame/PriPara'', its spiritual successor are very dramatic and things tend to take a dramatic turn here and there before they are finally resolved in a way that is good for most of the people involved. Pretty much sit at the middle of this scale.

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** ''[[VideoGame/PrettyRhythmAuroraDream Pretty Rhythm]]'' ''Franchise/PrettyRhythm'' series and ''VideoGame/PriPara'', its spiritual successor are very dramatic and things tend to take a dramatic turn here and there before they are finally resolved in a way that is good for most of the people involved. Pretty much sit at the middle of this scale.
8th Nov '17 2:00:14 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Post Disaster]] is perhaps one of the most cynical settings, even if put in comparison to the darker titles. Taking place in a setting where children are treated as worth less than dirt and have a short life expectancy. Orga's attempt to survive as they form the group Tekkadan ultimately puts them in an idealist end during the end of the first season. How it only comes crashing down fully cynically as he and many others die in a futile coup against the BigBad of the series and Tekkadan is forever vilified as a result of aligning themselves with McGillis. While some of the secondary members of Tekkadan were spared, all the main characters in Tekkadan would perish from the struggle and the antagonist emerging victorious and the surviving idealists also becoming fully cynical in process.

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** The [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Post Disaster]] is perhaps one of the most cynical settings, even if put in comparison to the darker titles. Taking place in a setting where children are treated as worth less than dirt and have a short life expectancy. Orga's attempt to survive as they form the group Tekkadan ultimately puts them in an idealist end during the end of the first season. How it only comes crashing down fully cynically as he and many others die in a futile coup against the BigBad of the series and Tekkadan is forever vilified as a result of aligning themselves with McGillis.[=McGillis=]. While some of the secondary members of Tekkadan were spared, all the main characters in Tekkadan would perish from the struggle and the antagonist emerging victorious and the surviving idealists also becoming fully cynical in process.



** Then came [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], and Kyubey's and Homura's attempts to outdo each other drove the cynicsm UpToEleven.

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** Then came [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', and Kyubey's and Homura's attempts to outdo each other drove the cynicsm UpToEleven.
5th Oct '17 7:20:09 PM MackWylde
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* SatoshiKon 's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent and PerfectBlue are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MilleniumActress, and most likely his unfinished film TheDresmMachine are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika is smack in the middle.

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* SatoshiKon 's films are all over the place. ParanoiaAgent and PerfectBlue are very cynical whereas TokyoGodfathers , MilleniumActress, MillenniumActress, and most likely his unfinished film TheDresmMachine TheDreamMachine are very much like on the idealistic end. Paprika is smack in the middle.
5th Oct '17 5:11:22 AM siamesecatman444
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.
4th Oct '17 8:17:32 PM MackWylde
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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.

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* Most ''YuGiOh'' series in the franchise has a share of cynicism but still lie mainly on the idealistic end of the scale. ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', however, is all over the place on the scale and ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' stands out as the most cynical series (so far) due to its entire premise is not only bleaker than the previous five, but also involves real-life criminal activities and mental illnesses.illnesses, yet still has a little bit idealism with still following the RousseauWasRight trope like the first four.
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