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Meanwhile, a certain brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei finds himself looking abroad for employment options. He's full of grand, dangerous ideas for reform, and he's looking for a ruler willing to use him to his full potential. They call him Wei Yang at the time, but years later, for his services, Ying Quliang will enfeoff him as [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
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Meanwhile, a certain brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei Wey (卫) finds himself looking abroad for employment options. He's full of grand, dangerous ideas for reform, and he's looking for a ruler willing to use him to his full potential. They call him Wei Wey Yang at the time, but years later, for his services, Ying Quliang will enfeoff him as [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
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* {{Adorkable}}: Just about everyone falls into this category at some point in the show.
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This is not [[QinShiHuangdi the Qin you may be familiar with]].
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* WisePrince: Ying Quliang. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Ying Qian and Ying Si]] also show this eventually.
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* WisePrince: Ying Quliang. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Ying Qian and Ying Si]] also show this eventually.
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Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably [[RealityIsUnrealistic less]] [[JumpedTheShark positive]].books.
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In 361 BC, Duke Xian of Qin dies. His son [[WisePrince Ying]] [[WarriorPrince Quliang]] becomes Duke Xiao of Qin, inheriting a state so poor that "the dogs don't shit there," sneered upon by the more powerful and cultured six states to the east.
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In 361 BC, Duke Xian of Qin dies. His son [[WisePrince Ying]] [[WarriorPrince Quliang]] becomes Duke Xiao of Qin, inheriting a state so poor and war-torn that "the dogs don't shit there," sneered upon by the more powerful and cultured six states to the east.
east. And he's willing to pay any price to save his people from destruction.
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Meanwhile, a certain brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei finds himself looking abroad for employment options.options. He's full of grand, dangerous ideas for reform, and he's looking for a ruler willing to use him to his full potential. They call him Wei Yang at the time, but years later, for his services, Ying Quliang will enfeoff him as [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
* Adorkable: Just about everyone falls into this category at some point in the show.
* CruelAndUnusualDeath: Wei Yang is sentenced to be torn apart by chariots, although [[spoiler: Bai Xue poisons him first to spare him in the show.]]
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* HumansAreBastards: Wei Yang's philosophy.
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: GanLong.Long and the other nobles, at least until the second season.]]
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Gan
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: There are two states of Wei at this time, spelled identically in pinyin down to the tones. Wei Yang was born in one of them (the less prominent one, often spelled Wey for clarity in English works) and worked for the other. To make things more confusing, the Wei in Wei Yang's name is the same character as the name of his birth state, but is never spelled Wey.
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Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[Doorstopper [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably [[RealityIsUnrealistic less]] [[JumpedTheShark positive]].
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* BigScrewedUpFamily: Subverted with the Ying family. Sure, the relationships between certain members can get a bit homicidal, but that never keeps the family from being pretty damn effective as a political unit.
* CainAndAbel: A complicated version springs up between the Ying brothers and Wei Yang.
* CainAndAbel: A complicated version springs up between the Ying brothers and Wei Yang.
** Played straight with Wei Yang, who always wears white, the color of death, light, and purity.
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* HoldingHands: Ying Quliang and Wei Yang do this a lot. Subverted heartbreakingly in the later episodes when [[spoiler: after Ying Quliang dies and Wei Yang collapses under the strain of having to break his own laws. He instinctively reaches up for a hand that isn't there anymore.]]
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* HoldingHands: Ying Quliang and Wei Yang do this a lot. Subverted heartbreakingly in the later episodes when after [[spoiler: after Ying Quliang dies and Wei Yang collapses under the strain of having to break his own laws. He instinctively reaches up for a hand that isn't there anymore.]]
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Dear god, Ying Quliang and Wei Yang.
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* HoldingHands: Ying Quliang and Wei Yang do this a lot. Subverted heartbreakingly in the later episodes when [[spoiler: after Ying Quliang dies and Wei Yang collapses under the strain of having to break his own laws. He instinctively reaches up for a hand that isn't there anymore.]]
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Dear god, Ying Quliang and Wei Yang. They trust each other unconditionally, sacrifice everything for each other's sakes, and fight hand in hand for twenty years to reform Qin. When Ying Quliang dies, Wei Yang is holding his hand.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Dear god, Ying Quliang and Wei Yang. They trust each other unconditionally, sacrifice everything for each other's sakes, and fight hand in hand for twenty years to reform Qin. When Ying Quliang dies, Wei Yang is holding his hand.
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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Most of the main characters except the love interests.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Wei Yang can't find refuge at an inn because his own laws forbid innkeepers from accepting travellers who don't have official identifying passes.
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* WellDoneSonGuy: Ying Si views the love seems to be at once jealous of Wei Yang for claiming a greater share of Ying Quliang's esteem than him and respect that his ministers give of Ying Quliang even after his death with for claiming a mix greater share of envy and longing.Wei Yang's esteem than him.
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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Hilariously subverted with the black-robed rulers of Qin, who are, for once, the ''protagonists''.
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* ChildSoldiers: Pre-reforms Qin is so desperate for soldiers that it sends children and old men to the front lines. According to the novel, Ying Quliang himself joined the army as a common soldier at the age of twelve.
* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Hilariously subverted with the black-robed rulers of Qin, who are, for once, the''protagonists''. ''protagonists''.
* CorruptionOfAMinor: Poor Ying Si.
** Played straight with Wei Yang, who always wears white, the color of death, light, and purity.
* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Hilariously subverted with the black-robed rulers of Qin, who are, for once, the
* CorruptionOfAMinor: Poor Ying Si.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpire portrays him as a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to [[HobbesWasRight save Qin]] and [[HumansAreBastards leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].
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* EnfanteTerrible: Ying Si, primed by his uncle and detonated by [[spoiler: Gan Long]].
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpireportrays shows him as to be a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to [[HobbesWasRight save Qin]] and [[HumansAreBastards leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].hearts]], and [[HeroicSacrifice ultimately sacrifices himself to preserve his reforms]].
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* PyrricVictory: Every battle that Duke Xian fights against Wei costs Qin a little more of its strained food supplies and manpower.
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Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... [[AdaptationalDecay considerably]] considerably [[RealityIsUnrealistic less]] [[JumpedTheShark positive]].
* BigEater: ''Wei Yang.''
* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Hilariously subverted with the black-robed rulers of Qin, who are, for once, the ''protagonists''.
* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Hilariously subverted with the black-robed rulers of Qin, who are, for once, the ''protagonists''.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpire portrays him as a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to save Qin and [[HobbesWasRight leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Gan Long and the nobles. Pang Juan actually doesn't get as bad a case of this as he typically does.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Gan Long and the nobles. Pang Juan actually doesn't get as bad a case of this as he typically does.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpire portrays him as a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to save Qin and [[HobbesWasRight save Qin]] and [[HumansAreBastards leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Gan Long and the nobles. Pang Juan actually doesn't get as bad a case of this as he typicallydoes.does, since the focus of this work isn't on his treatment of Sun Bin.
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* PyrricVictory: Every battle that Duke Xian fights against Wei costs Qin a little more of its strained food supplies and manpower.
** On a larger scale, Qin succeeds in uniting China, but sows the seeds of its own annihilation in the process.
* SweetPollyOliver: Ying Yingyu and Bai Xue. Xuanqi does this in the books, too.
** On a larger scale, Qin succeeds in uniting China, but sows the seeds of its own annihilation in the process.
* SweetPollyOliver: Ying Yingyu and Bai Xue. Xuanqi does this in the books, too.
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In 361 BC, Duke Xian of Qin dies. His son [[WisePrince Ying]] [[WarriorPrince Quliang]] becomes Duke Xiao of Qin, inheriting a state so poor that "the dogs don't shit there," on sneered upon by the verge of being destroyed by its more powerful neighbors and cultured six states to the east.
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Meanwhile, a brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei finds himself looking abroad for employment options. They call him Wei Yang at the time, but history remembers him as [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably less positive.
Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably less positive.
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Meanwhile, a brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei finds himself looking abroad for employment options. They call him Wei Yang at the time, but history remembers years later, for his services, Ying Quliang will enfeoff him as [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are...considerably less positive.[[AdaptationalDecay considerably]] [[RealityIsUnrealistic less]] [[JumpedTheShark positive]].
Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are...
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* {{Doorstopper}}: The first two seasons are 51 episodes each, and covering all the books will probably take 300+ episodes total. The books novels themselves count, being count-- 5 books divided over 9 good-sized volumes total.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpire portrays him as a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to save Qin and [[HobbesWasRight leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this. Instead of his typical portrayal as a [[SmugSnake smug asshole]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma gets his just rewards]], Series/TheQinEmpire portrays him as a [[WellIntentionedExtremist fierce reformer]] who genuinely ([[TheExtremistWasRight and correctly]]) believes that Legalism is the only way to save Qin and [[HobbesWasRight leash the evil tendencies in people's hearts]].
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Gan Long and the nobles. Pang Juan actually doesn't get as bad a case of this as he typically does.
* OldRetainer: Hei Bo.
* WarriorPrince: Ying Quliang and Ying Qian. Wei Yang technically counts too, since he's related to the royal house of Wey/Wei, and later [[spoiler: the Ying family]] by marriage.
* WisePrince: Ying Quliang. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Ying Qian and Ying Si]] also show this eventually.
* Doorstopper: The first two seasons are 51 episodes each, and covering all the books will probably take 300+ episodes total. The books themselves count, being 9 good-sized volumes total.
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: This is one of the few adaptations where ''Lord Shang'' gets this.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Gan Long and the nobles. Pang Juan actually doesn't get as bad a case of this as he typically does.
* OldRetainer: Hei Bo.
* WarriorPrince: Ying Quliang and Ying Qian. Wei Yang technically counts too, since he's related to the royal house of Wey/Wei, and later [[spoiler: the Ying family]] by marriage.
* WisePrince: Ying Quliang. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Ying Qian and Ying Si]] also show this eventually.
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In 361 BC, Duke Xian of Qin dies. His son Ying Quliang [[WisePrince Ying]] [[WarriorPrince Quliang]] inherits a state so poor that "the dogs don't shit there," on the verge of being destroyed by its more powerful neighbors to the east.
This is not [[QinShiHuangdi the Qin you may be familiarwith]].with]].
Meanwhile, a brilliant, ambitious minor official in the state of Wei finds himself looking abroad for employment options. They call him Wei Yang at the time, but history remembers him as [[BookOfLordShang Lord Shang]].
Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably less positive.
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Based on the book series by Sun Haohui, [[BasedOnATrueStory which covers the entire rise and fall of Qin]], ''Series/TheQinEmpire'' takes a rare sympathetic view at Legalism, Shang Yang's reforms, and the state of Qin. There's a second season, and more in the works, (loosely) following the later books, but fan reactions are... considerably less positive.
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This is not [[QinShiHuangdi the Qin you may be familiar with]].