History Series / Rome

20th Dec '16 9:28:14 PM Discar
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** Atia chastises her teenage son for not having enough sex. She even forces him to eat sheep testicles to make him more virile, and eventually insists that he visit a brothel [[AManIsNotAVirgin so he won't dishonor his family by being a virgin]].

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** Atia chastises her teenage son for not having enough sex. She even forces him to eat sheep testicles to make him more virile, and eventually insists that he visit a brothel [[AManIsNotAVirgin [[VirginShaming so he won't dishonor his family by being a virgin]].



* AManIsNotAVirgin: Atia firmly believes this to be true. Which is why she arranges for Octavian to visit a brothel, so that he can become a real man.
-->'''Atia''': You will penetrate somebody today or I shall burn your wretched books at the yard.



* SexAsRiteOfPassage: Atia arranges for Octavian to lose his virginity, so that he can become [[AManIsNotAVirgin a man]].

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* SexAsRiteOfPassage: Atia arranges for Octavian to lose his virginity, so that he can become [[AManIsNotAVirgin a man]].man.


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* VirginShaming: Atia firmly believes in this. Which is why she arranges for Octavian to visit a brothel, so that he can become a real man.
-->'''Atia''': You will penetrate somebody today or I shall burn your wretched books at the yard.
15th Dec '16 2:04:37 PM Aurelian
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* AnachronismStew: Mostly averted, although there are a number of examples. Early in the Roman Republic Plebeians generally did constitute a politically disenfranchised and poor lower class, however by the time the show takes place the terms Patrician and Plebeian had lost a lot of their significance. The two groups now had more or less formal political equality, and there were enough instances of Plebeians becoming rich and Patricians becoming destitute that the title had little bearing on economic status. With the conflict in Rome at the time being mostly rich vs. poor, depicting the rivalry as being essentially Plebeians vs. Patricians is very attractive, but also very inaccurate. Many Republicans were in fact very wealthy Plebeians, most notably Creator/{{Cicero}} and Cato the Younger (the latter being depicted on the show as regarding Plebeians as trash). The show does mention the fact that the People's Tribune (Tribune of the Plebs) representing the Plebeians had a veto over the Senate and that Gnaeus Pompey was a Plebeian, while Caesar was of a Patrician family, but does not allow such facts to detract from its Patrician vs. Plebeian themes.

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* AnachronismStew: Mostly averted, although there are a number of examples. Early Characters in the show use the term plebs to refer to anyone from the poorer classes. While in the early centuries of the Roman Republic Plebeians generally did constitute a politically disenfranchised and poor lower class, however by the time the show takes place the terms Patrician and Plebeian had lost a lot of their significance. The two groups now had more or less formal political equality, and there were enough instances of Plebeians becoming rich and Patricians becoming destitute that the title had little bearing on economic status. With the conflict in Rome at the time being mostly rich vs. poor, depicting the rivalry as being essentially Plebeians vs. Patricians is very attractive, but also very inaccurate. Many Republicans were in fact very wealthy Plebeians, most notably Creator/{{Cicero}} and Cato the Younger (the latter being depicted on the show as regarding Plebeians as trash). Atia is equally disdainful of the plebs, yet her real life husband (and Octavian's father) Gaius Octavius was also from a Plebeian family. The show does mention the fact that the People's Tribune (Tribune of the Plebs) representing the Plebeians had a veto over the Senate and that Gnaeus Pompey was a Plebeian, while Caesar was of a Patrician family, but does not allow such facts to detract from its Patrician vs. Plebeian themes.
1st Dec '16 8:00:29 AM DrImpossible
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** Implied when Cleopatra calls her brother her husband. This one is TruthInTelevision as it was very common for Egyptian royals to marry their siblings in order to keep the blood line pure. Although, given the boy's age, it's likely the intended incest never actually had a chance to happen.

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** Implied when Cleopatra calls her brother her husband. This one is TruthInTelevision as it was very common for common, Egyptian royals to would often marry their siblings in order to keep the blood line pure. Although, given the boy's age, it's likely the intended incest never actually had a chance to happen.
27th Nov '16 5:33:18 PM Ciara25
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** One of the first times we see Mark Antony, he's taking a random farm girl from behind, up against a tree, in full view of the Roman army who've stopped to wait for him. The resigned expression on the girl's face tells us that she's no doubt long grown used to such treatment from any passing man of authority.
23rd Oct '16 9:46:13 AM nombretomado
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* BritishAccents: A large portion of the main cast is British or Irish, but the accents used to represent wealth and status are the same as [[TheQueensLatin those used in modern Britain]].
10th Oct '16 11:29:21 AM TrollBrutal
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* ArmourPiercingQuestion:
** Not actually a question, but ''"You have a rotten soul"'' clearly leaves Octavian shaken.
** ''"Flavio's not coming"''
10th Oct '16 10:46:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* SuspiciousSpending: After the Roman Senators leave the city to escape Julius Caesar's advancing troops, the treasury is raided but subsequently found by Pullo and Vorenus, two soldiers loyal to Caesar. Pullo considers keeping the gold for themselves and goes on a spending spree around the city, visiting dozens of taverns and giving away money for free. Vorenus points out that anyone with a brain will be wondering where a Centurion with a measly salary managed to come about such a fortune, and tells Pullo to give the money back to Caesar before his men come calling. This ends up saving Pullo's life from possible execution, since Caesar is so happy to have deprived Pompey Magnus of any funds for his war effort that he rewards Pullo instead of punishing him for thievery.
6th Oct '16 2:57:28 AM TrollBrutal
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* ItHasBeenAnHonor: Brutus says those words before sending his men away. Subverted when Vorenus says it to Antony, who replies; "Has it? I hope so."

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* ItHasBeenAnHonor: ItHasBeenAnHonor:
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Brutus says those words before sending his men away. Subverted when away.
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Vorenus says it to Antony, who is surprised and touched by the words and replies; "Has it? I hope so."
4th Sep '16 5:00:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* AncientRome: Of course. The final period of TheRomanRepublic.

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* AncientRome: Of course. The final period of TheRomanRepublic.UsefulNotes/TheRomanRepublic.
1st Sep '16 12:45:57 AM TrollBrutal
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->''"Four hundred years after the last king was driven from the city, the Republic of Rome rules many nations, but cannot rule itself. The city is constantly roiled by conflict between the common people and the nobility. Power is shared, and order maintained by two soldiers, old friends Gnaeus Pompey Magnus and Gaius Julius Caesar. Once, Pompey was acknowledged by all to be the greater man, but for the last eight years, while Pompey has kept the peace in Rome, Caesar has waged a war of conquest in Gaul, that has made him ever more rich and popular. The balance of power is shifting, and the nobility have grown fearful. Though of noble blood himself, Caesar stands with the common people. A man like that, an aristocrat with soldiers, money and the love of the people might make himself king..."''


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->''"Four hundred years after the last king was driven from the city, the Republic of Rome rules many nations, but cannot rule itself. The city is constantly roiled by conflict between the common people and the nobility. Power is shared, and order maintained by two soldiers, old friends Gnaeus Pompey Magnus and Gaius Julius Caesar. Once, Pompey was acknowledged by all to ->''"I shall be the greater man, but a good politician. Even if it kills me. Or if it kills anyone else, for the last eight years, while Pompey has kept the peace in Rome, Caesar has waged a war of conquest in Gaul, that has made him ever more rich and popular. The balance of power is shifting, and the nobility have grown fearful. Though of noble blood himself, Caesar stands with the common people. A man like that, an aristocrat with soldiers, money and the love of the people might make himself king..."''

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-->-- '''Mark Antony'''

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