History Series / Rome

25th Mar '17 4:32:29 PM Aurelian
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* HyperCompetentSidekick: Agrippa, who wins most of Octavian's battles for him.
24th Mar '17 10:48:49 AM Aurelian
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* MoodWhiplash: One minute, Pullo is joyous at having bought Eirene's freedom and plans to marry her. The next he's brutally beating her (hitherto unknown to him) slave fiancee to death in a fit of jealousy.
24th Mar '17 9:13:52 AM Aurelian
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** Setting Pompey free leads Vorenus and Pullo to Egypt. The war is prolonged and Pompey is killed by the locals to impress Caesar, despite the fact that Caesar often spares his Roman enemies. In Egypt Caesarion ensues. Years later, in the final episode [[spoiler: Vorenus is ''probably'' mortally wounded while defending Caesarion. WordOfGod says he survives, but it's a narrow thing.]]

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** Setting Pompey free leads Vorenus and Pullo to Egypt. The war is prolonged and Pompey is killed by the locals to impress Caesar, despite the fact that Caesar often spares his Roman enemies. In Egypt Caesarion ensues. Years later, in the final episode [[spoiler: Vorenus is ''probably'' mortally wounded while defending Caesarion. WordOfGod says he survives, survives but it's a narrow thing.]]]]
* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Caesar is merciful (by Roman standards) and spares all the leading Republicans who fought against him in the civil war.[[note]]By contrast, a generation before the events portrayed in ''Rome'', Sulla and Marius slaughtered each other's supporters in their civil war.[[/note]] His reward for this is to be brutally murdered by the very men he spared. Octavian and Antony are careful not to make the same mistake.
10th Mar '17 10:59:01 AM Aurelian
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* HeroicBSOD: Once the UnstoppableRage has worn off, Vorenus has one of these after believing his whole family is dead. Pullo also has one towards the end of Season One when Vorenus rejects him.

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Once the UnstoppableRage has worn off, Vorenus has one of these after believing his whole family is dead. Pullo also has one towards the end of Season One when Vorenus rejects him.him.
** Pompey after the battle of Pharsalus.
3rd Mar '17 10:34:00 PM Xtifr
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One of its most innovative ideas was to focus on the lives of ordinary fictional Romans, rather than just historical figures like UsefulNotes/GaiusJuliusCaesar or UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}. This had been explored before in literature and in {{sitcom}}s, but ''Rome'' was the first television drama to do so. It was a great concept. The show had a tremendous ensemble cast, incredible production values and was both epic in scope and paid meticulous, loving attention to detail. It ended after its second series due to insufficient ratings to justify its massive expense. HBO executives later regretted the decision as [[BetterOnDVD DVD sales turned out to be very good]].

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One of its most innovative ideas was to focus on the lives of ordinary fictional Romans, rather than just historical figures like UsefulNotes/GaiusJuliusCaesar UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar or UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}. This had been explored before in literature and in {{sitcom}}s, but ''Rome'' was the first television drama to do so. It was a great concept. The show had a tremendous ensemble cast, incredible production values and was both epic in scope and paid meticulous, loving attention to detail. It ended after its second series due to insufficient ratings to justify its massive expense. HBO executives later regretted the decision as [[BetterOnDVD DVD sales turned out to be very good]].



* EasilyForgiven: Caesar can be ruthless but manages to fit this trope fairly well. He spares Vorenus and Pullo several times and his response to Brutus and Cicero trying to surrender is to [[DefeatMeansFriendship hug them, apologize to Brutus while kissing his cheek]], beg them to tell him that Pompey, an even bigger enemy, is still alive, and then, drag them off to have food since it must have been awhile since they had a decent meal. More than one character points out that forgiving people is Caesar's shtick, doing double duty as a way to be seen as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure and to [[CruelMercy make people beholden to him]]. Note that this was the modus operandi too of [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar the real life Caesar]].

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* EasilyForgiven: Caesar can be ruthless but manages to fit this trope fairly well. He spares Vorenus and Pullo several times and his response to Brutus and Cicero trying to surrender is to [[DefeatMeansFriendship hug them, apologize to Brutus while kissing his cheek]], beg them to tell him that Pompey, an even bigger enemy, is still alive, and then, drag them off to have food since it must have been awhile since they had a decent meal. More than one character points out that forgiving people is Caesar's shtick, doing double duty as a way to be seen as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure and to [[CruelMercy make people beholden to him]]. Note that this was the modus operandi too of [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar [[UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar the real life Caesar]].



* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Easily half the major characters: Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, Brutus, Cassius, Mark Antony, UsefulNotes/PompeyTheGreat, Creator/{{Cicero}}, Cato, UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}, UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII, Vercingetorix, Agrippa... Technically even Vorenus and Pullo, though in their case it was simply taking the names of two of Caesar's real centurions mentioned in his book ''De bello Gallico'' and creating the characters from whole cloth.

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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Easily half the major characters: Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar, Brutus, Cassius, Mark Antony, UsefulNotes/PompeyTheGreat, Creator/{{Cicero}}, Cato, UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}, UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII, Vercingetorix, Agrippa... Technically even Vorenus and Pullo, though in their case it was simply taking the names of two of Caesar's real centurions mentioned in his book ''De bello Gallico'' and creating the characters from whole cloth.



* {{Tyrannicide}}: The series depicts the assassination of UsefulNotes/GaiusJuliusCaesar by Brutus and his allies at the end of the first season. When they later discuss the aftermath with Caesar's surviving ally Mark Antony, the latter points out that justifying Caesar's murder as tyrannicide has created a conundrum for everyone, as all of Caesar's motions, including the appointment of Brutus' and Antony's offices, are legally null and void. The factions agree to [[DemocracyIsBad forego a new election]] by declaring Caesar's death accidental.

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* {{Tyrannicide}}: The series depicts the assassination of UsefulNotes/GaiusJuliusCaesar UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar by Brutus and his allies at the end of the first season. When they later discuss the aftermath with Caesar's surviving ally Mark Antony, the latter points out that justifying Caesar's murder as tyrannicide has created a conundrum for everyone, as all of Caesar's motions, including the appointment of Brutus' and Antony's offices, are legally null and void. The factions agree to [[DemocracyIsBad forego a new election]] by declaring Caesar's death accidental.
7th Feb '17 12:45:19 AM Aurelian
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* 13IsUnlucky: Averted here, as the Thirteenth is Caesar's most distinguished legion.


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* ThirteenIsUnlucky: Averted here, as the Thirteenth is Caesar's most distinguished legion.
6th Feb '17 4:31:59 PM Aurelian
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* 13IsUnlucky: Averted here, as the Thirteenth is Caesar's most distinguished legion.


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** While standing at the feet of a man who has just been crucified, Vorenus laments his own bad luck. The legionary isn't too pleased either at being ordered to take the man down, having only just put him up.
20th Dec '16 9:28:14 PM Discar
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** Atia chastises her teenage son for not having enough sex. She even forces him to eat sheep testicles to make him more virile, and eventually insists that he visit a brothel [[AManIsNotAVirgin so he won't dishonor his family by being a virgin]].

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** Atia chastises her teenage son for not having enough sex. She even forces him to eat sheep testicles to make him more virile, and eventually insists that he visit a brothel [[AManIsNotAVirgin [[VirginShaming so he won't dishonor his family by being a virgin]].



* AManIsNotAVirgin: Atia firmly believes this to be true. Which is why she arranges for Octavian to visit a brothel, so that he can become a real man.
-->'''Atia''': You will penetrate somebody today or I shall burn your wretched books at the yard.



* SexAsRiteOfPassage: Atia arranges for Octavian to lose his virginity, so that he can become [[AManIsNotAVirgin a man]].

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* SexAsRiteOfPassage: Atia arranges for Octavian to lose his virginity, so that he can become [[AManIsNotAVirgin a man]].man.


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* VirginShaming: Atia firmly believes in this. Which is why she arranges for Octavian to visit a brothel, so that he can become a real man.
-->'''Atia''': You will penetrate somebody today or I shall burn your wretched books at the yard.
15th Dec '16 2:04:37 PM Aurelian
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* AnachronismStew: Mostly averted, although there are a number of examples. Early in the Roman Republic Plebeians generally did constitute a politically disenfranchised and poor lower class, however by the time the show takes place the terms Patrician and Plebeian had lost a lot of their significance. The two groups now had more or less formal political equality, and there were enough instances of Plebeians becoming rich and Patricians becoming destitute that the title had little bearing on economic status. With the conflict in Rome at the time being mostly rich vs. poor, depicting the rivalry as being essentially Plebeians vs. Patricians is very attractive, but also very inaccurate. Many Republicans were in fact very wealthy Plebeians, most notably Creator/{{Cicero}} and Cato the Younger (the latter being depicted on the show as regarding Plebeians as trash). The show does mention the fact that the People's Tribune (Tribune of the Plebs) representing the Plebeians had a veto over the Senate and that Gnaeus Pompey was a Plebeian, while Caesar was of a Patrician family, but does not allow such facts to detract from its Patrician vs. Plebeian themes.

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* AnachronismStew: Mostly averted, although there are a number of examples. Early Characters in the show use the term plebs to refer to anyone from the poorer classes. While in the early centuries of the Roman Republic Plebeians generally did constitute a politically disenfranchised and poor lower class, however by the time the show takes place the terms Patrician and Plebeian had lost a lot of their significance. The two groups now had more or less formal political equality, and there were enough instances of Plebeians becoming rich and Patricians becoming destitute that the title had little bearing on economic status. With the conflict in Rome at the time being mostly rich vs. poor, depicting the rivalry as being essentially Plebeians vs. Patricians is very attractive, but also very inaccurate. Many Republicans were in fact very wealthy Plebeians, most notably Creator/{{Cicero}} and Cato the Younger (the latter being depicted on the show as regarding Plebeians as trash). Atia is equally disdainful of the plebs, yet her real life husband (and Octavian's father) Gaius Octavius was also from a Plebeian family. The show does mention the fact that the People's Tribune (Tribune of the Plebs) representing the Plebeians had a veto over the Senate and that Gnaeus Pompey was a Plebeian, while Caesar was of a Patrician family, but does not allow such facts to detract from its Patrician vs. Plebeian themes.
1st Dec '16 8:00:29 AM DrImpossible
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** Implied when Cleopatra calls her brother her husband. This one is TruthInTelevision as it was very common for Egyptian royals to marry their siblings in order to keep the blood line pure. Although, given the boy's age, it's likely the intended incest never actually had a chance to happen.

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** Implied when Cleopatra calls her brother her husband. This one is TruthInTelevision as it was very common for common, Egyptian royals to would often marry their siblings in order to keep the blood line pure. Although, given the boy's age, it's likely the intended incest never actually had a chance to happen.
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