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* InformedJudaism: Rhoda's Jewishness is considerably de-emphasized compared with her portrayal on ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''. This was presumably done in order to make the character (and her relationship with the non-Jewish Joe) more acceptable to "mainstream" audiences. (For context, a few years earlier there had been a sitcom about ''another'' interfaith marriage, ''Bridget Loves Bernie'', which was cancelled because of the resultant controversy.)

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* InformedJudaism: Rhoda's Jewishness is considerably de-emphasized compared with her portrayal on ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''. This was presumably done in order to make the character (and her relationship with the non-Jewish Joe) more acceptable to "mainstream" audiences. (For context, a few years earlier earlier, there had been was a sitcom about ''another'' interfaith marriage, ''Bridget Loves Bernie'', which that was cancelled because of the resultant controversy.)



* RequiredSpinoffCrossover: Mary Richards appears in several episodes, and almost the entire ''MTM'' cast (minus Ted and Sue Ann) shows up for Rhoda's wedding.
* ReTool: Several. The fourth season of the show even had Rhoda going to work for a crusty but BenevolentBoss Jack Doyle who was the writers' obvious attempt to re-create the Mary/Lou Grant relationship from ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''.

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* RequiredSpinoffCrossover: Mary Richards appears in several episodes, and almost the entire ''MTM'' cast (minus Ted and Sue Ann) shows up for cone to Rhoda's wedding.
* ReTool: Several. The fourth season of the show even had Rhoda going to work for a crusty but BenevolentBoss Jack Doyle who was the writers' obvious attempt to re-create the Mary/Lou Grant relationship from ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''.



** Mary Richards was this in Joe's eyes in one episode in which she suddenly pops in unannounced just before a romantic, and possibly marriage-saving, planned weekend away.

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** Mary Richards was this in Joe's eyes in one episode "Along Came Mary," in which she suddenly pops in unannounced just before a romantic, and possibly marriage-saving, planned weekend away.
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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda (Creator/JulieKavner), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Creator/HaroldGould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).

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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), (Creator/DavidGroh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda (Creator/JulieKavner), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Creator/HaroldGould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).

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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour WeddingEpisode was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of {{Retool}}s thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.

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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo a RelationshipUpgrade occurs too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour WeddingEpisode was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of {{Retool}}s thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.



%%* TheyDo: Rhoda and Joe.

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* TheAlcoholic: Carlton the Doorman

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* ChristmasEpisode: "Guess What I Got You for the Holidays" is kind of an interesting example, in that it's never specified whether Rhoda and Joe are celebrating Hanukkah, Christmas, or both.
* DeadpanSnarker: Rhoda and Brenda.

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* ChristmasEpisode: "Guess What I Got You for the Holidays" is kind of an interesting example, in that it's never specified whether Rhoda and Joe are celebrating Hanukkah, Christmas, or both.
* %%* DeadpanSnarker: Rhoda and Brenda.



* MatzoFever: Rhoda's relationship with Joe could be considered a mild example.



* TheyDo: Rhoda and Joe.

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* InformedJudaism: Rhoda's Jewishness is considerably de-emphasized compared with her portrayal on ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''. This was presumably done in order to make the character (and her relationship with the non-Jewish Joe) more acceptable to "mainstream" audiences..

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* InformedJudaism: Rhoda's Jewishness is considerably de-emphasized compared with her portrayal on ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''. This was presumably done in order to make the character (and her relationship with the non-Jewish Joe) more acceptable to "mainstream" audiences..audiences. (For context, a few years earlier there had been a sitcom about ''another'' interfaith marriage, ''Bridget Loves Bernie'', which was cancelled because of the resultant controversy.)
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** Subverted and then averted in Carlton's animated pilot, which spends the first full minute carefully avoiding showing Carlton's face, before zooming in for a dramatic close-up as he says his catchphrase into a mirror, and thereafter making no attempt to hide his face. If you're wondering, [[spoiler:he's thin and stooped, with a long nose, shoulder-length blond hair, and a droopy mustache.]]
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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda (Creator/JulieKavner), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).

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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda (Creator/JulieKavner), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); (Creator/HaroldGould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).
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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda ([[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Julie Kavner]]), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).

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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda ([[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Julie Kavner]]), (Creator/JulieKavner), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).
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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Valerie Harper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda ([[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Julie Kavner]]), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).

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A SpinOff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' that ran on Creator/{{CBS}} from 1974–78. Developed by that show's creators, Creator/JamesLBrooks and Allan Burns, ''Rhoda'' followed Mary's best friend and former neighbor Rhoda Morgenstern (Valerie Harper) (Creator/ValerieHarper) as she moved from Minneapolis to her native [[BigApplesauce New York City]] to be with the man of her dreams, good-looking divorcé Joe Gerard (David Groh), whom she marries midway through the first season. Other characters include Rhoda's perpetually self-deprecating kid sister Brenda ([[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Julie Kavner]]), with whom she initially shared an apartment; their parents, meddling JewishMother Ida (Nancy Walker) and CloserToEarth father Martin (Harold Gould); and the [[TheVoice never clearly seen]] doorman in their building, Carlton (voiced by Creator/LorenzoMusic).
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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour WeddingEpisode was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of [[ReTool Re Tools]] thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.

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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour WeddingEpisode was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of [[ReTool Re Tools]] {{Retool}}s thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.
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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour [[WeddingDay wedding episode]] was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of [[ReTool Re Tools]] thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.

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The show became famous as an example of the disaster that can befall a show when TheyDo too soon. CBS chief programmer Fred Silverman forced the writers to marry Rhoda to Joe as soon as possible, with the reasoning that getting her married at last would result in huge ratings. He was right about the ratings: the special one-hour [[WeddingDay wedding episode]] WeddingEpisode was one of the most-watched TV events in history. Unfortunately, however, the writers were now finding it increasingly difficult to write stories about a happily-married Rhoda, often instead writing episodes showcasing Walker's comedic performance as Ida, or focusing on Brenda's problems including her on-again, off-again relationship with accordion player Nick Lobo (Creator/RichardMasur). Eventually, they decided that Rhoda's appeal came from her status as an insecure single woman. A series of [[ReTool Re Tools]] thus ensued, with Rhoda getting separated and divorced from Joe, which caused the show's popularity to plummet. It managed to last for over 100 episodes, but it never got back the popularity of its early years. Even Silverman later admitted that having Rhoda marry Joe so soon was a mistake.
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* WeddingDay: One of the most famous episodes of this type.

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* WeddingDay: One WeddingEpisode: The eighth episode of season 1, the most famous episodes of this type.appropriately-titled "Rhoda's Wedding", is about the titular character getting married.

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* ReTool: Several. The last year of the show even had Rhoda going to work for a crusty but BenevolentBoss who was the writers' obvious attempt to re-create the Mary/Lou Grant relationship from ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''.

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* ReTool: Several. The last year fourth season of the show even had Rhoda going to work for a crusty but BenevolentBoss Jack Doyle who was the writers' obvious attempt to re-create the Mary/Lou Grant relationship from ''The Mary Tyler Moore Show''.

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