History SelfDemonstrating / Magneto

23rd Jul '16 11:16:24 AM Fourze99
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: I'll do what I must to ensure mutants never suffer any more at the hands of you humans. [[spoiler: Indeed, [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 when our universe was merged with the universe known as Capcom,]] I was able to finally build a world for Homo Superior to finally live on.]]

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: I'll do what I must to ensure mutants never suffer any more at the hands of you humans. [[spoiler: Indeed, [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 when our universe was merged with the universe known as Capcom,]] I was able to finally build a world for Homo Superior to finally live on.]]
23rd Jul '16 11:15:25 AM Fourze99
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: I'll do what I must to ensure mutants never suffer any more at the hands of you humans.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: I'll do what I must to ensure mutants never suffer any more at the hands of you humans. [[spoiler: Indeed, [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 when our universe was merged with the universe known as Capcom,]] I was able to finally build a world for Homo Superior to finally live on.]]
14th Jul '16 8:52:34 AM MasterHero
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* {{Badass}}: I am among the most powerful of mutants and it is the strength of my will that pushes the cause of mutants forward.
12th Jul '16 6:10:38 PM nombretomado
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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Over the course of my career, I've found many ways to use the power of magnetism to manipulate related forms of energy for a variety of uses. For example, turning invisible by bending light, manipulating electromagnetic energy to shoot lightning bolts, or altering the behavior of local gravitational fields; some see this as "evidence" of a [[AlbertEinstein unified field theory]] that states all energy is the same, but just emitted in various ways. Still, in most cases, magnetism is far easier to manipulate than any other, so I usually stay with that.

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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Over the course of my career, I've found many ways to use the power of magnetism to manipulate related forms of energy for a variety of uses. For example, turning invisible by bending light, manipulating electromagnetic energy to shoot lightning bolts, or altering the behavior of local gravitational fields; some see this as "evidence" of a [[AlbertEinstein [[UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein unified field theory]] that states all energy is the same, but just emitted in various ways. Still, in most cases, magnetism is far easier to manipulate than any other, so I usually stay with that.
1st Jul '16 11:23:40 AM Anddrix
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* AntiVillain: One that has started [[BaseBreaker many an argument of varying maturity]]. To some, I am a WellIntentionedExtremist supremacist mass-murdering terrorist demagogue, with occasional outright genocidal ambitions; alternately, some people [[RootingForTheEmpire still root for the Brotherhood despite their muddled blood]], [[SympathyForTheDevil weep for my cause]], or [[TragicVillain have contempt for my position in life]]. No matter the style "AntiHero" they label me, my ideals are rightfully accorded with respect, as all of humanity in this CrapSackWorld are [[HumansAreBastards persecuting scum]] who have it coming... which is all DependingOnTheWriter. Even God had trouble balancing favorites in [[Literature/TheBible the Good Book]], I suppose.

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* AntiVillain: One that has started [[BaseBreaker many an argument of varying maturity]].maturity. To some, I am a WellIntentionedExtremist supremacist mass-murdering terrorist demagogue, with occasional outright genocidal ambitions; alternately, some people [[RootingForTheEmpire still root for the Brotherhood despite their muddled blood]], [[SympathyForTheDevil weep for my cause]], or [[TragicVillain have contempt for my position in life]]. No matter the style "AntiHero" they label me, my ideals are rightfully accorded with respect, as all of humanity in this CrapSackWorld are [[HumansAreBastards persecuting scum]] who have it coming... which is all DependingOnTheWriter. Even God had trouble balancing favorites in [[Literature/TheBible the Good Book]], I suppose.
18th Jun '16 9:24:31 AM DannWoolf
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** Don't even mention the ''ComicBook/RedSkull'' to me. Then you will see how "evil" I can be. [[spoiler:Speaking of the Skull, the fool managed to steal Charles' brain to gain new "powers" and exploit both humans and mutants. I learned this in the tie-in prelude to the Autumn 2014 event ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}}'' in my own title. For my friend's sake, THE. SKULL. MUST. PAY. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Unfortunately, in my blind rage, I killed the Skull, only to awaken my darker half]], {{ComicBook/Onslaught}}.]]

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** Don't even mention the ''ComicBook/RedSkull'' ComicBook/RedSkull to me. Then you will see how "evil" I can be. [[spoiler:Speaking of the Skull, the fool managed to steal Charles' brain to gain new "powers" and exploit both humans and mutants. I learned this in the tie-in prelude to the Autumn 2014 event ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}}'' in my own title. For my friend's sake, THE. SKULL. MUST. PAY. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Unfortunately, in my blind rage, I killed the Skull, only to awaken my darker half]], {{ComicBook/Onslaught}}.]]



** I once imprisoned a man in a basement with limited water and no light. By the time he was found, he was wishing for death. The man in question was the ''ComicBook/RedSkull''; a villain so vile and repulsive that even the [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker psychotic clown]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards won't work with him]].

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** I once imprisoned a man in a basement with limited water and no light. By the time he was found, he was wishing for death. The man in question was the ''ComicBook/RedSkull''; ComicBook/RedSkull; a villain so vile and repulsive that even the [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker psychotic clown]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards won't work with him]].
27th May '16 1:48:30 PM WanderingBrowser
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: My incarnation in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe is this, feeling not only that mutants should reign, but that encourages the active murder of normal humans even when it serves no purpose, nor does he have an actual reason to hate humans, not being a Holocaust survivor like myself. That this psychotic charlatan dares claim the mantle of Master Of Magnetism is an insult, and he should count himself lucky that he was killed by that universe's Cyclops in retaliation for [[ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}} the cataclysm he caused]], as I would have found a way to destroy him for tainting my name eventually.

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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: My Some bigoted comic authors have claimed that I am in truth no different than the Germanic bigots who butchered my family, upholding the same creed of racial supremacy with equal fervor. Naturally, I reject such claims entirely; although it is true that I have noted the uncomfortable similarities in my own crusade to promote Homo Superior to its rightful place and the Nazi beliefs in the Ubermensch and the Untermensch, I have never countenanced the sort of barbarism the Nazis used to slaughter those they considered unfit. I resort to violence only because it is necessary to take such proactive steps to protect my people from humanity; humans will eliminate themselves eventually without any need for direct intervention on my part. Indeed, at least twice I have sought to simply remove my people from humanity to leave them to their fates, such as when I founded Genosha or established Asteroid M, but such efforts have always simply redoubled humanity's fervor to strike at me and mine.
** However, the same cannot be said about my odious
incarnation in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe is this, feeling not universe. Whereas I fight only that mutants should reign, but that to protect mutantkind, he actively encourages the active murder of normal mutants to kill and terrorize humans as part of his "mutant supremacy" creed. He has taken separation from humanity to the extreme, attempting to create a new mutant culture to the extent of devising new "mutant commandmants" (something I can almost grudgingly respect), very similar to Himmler and Hitler's efforts at building up their new "Aryan culture"... and also denigrating humanity to levels of the worst form of Untermensch. Filth that they were, even when it serves no purpose, nor does he have an actual reason to hate humans, the ''Nazis'' did not being a Holocaust survivor like myself.consider cannibalism as an appropriate "use" for their undesirables, whilst this twisted mutant once threatened on live television to keep surviving humans as literal ''livestock'' for the new mutant civilization. That this psychotic charlatan dares claim the mantle of Master Of Magnetism is an insult, and he should count himself lucky that he was killed by that universe's Cyclops in retaliation for [[ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}} the cataclysm he caused]], as I would have found a way to destroy him for tainting my name eventually.



%%* ByronicHero

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%%* ByronicHero* ByronicHero: Perhaps the only appellation humans apply to me that I would consider suitably respectful. I am a savior, driven to the things I do only because my people need someone willing to stand up and fight for their rights in the face of a world that will always hate and repress them. If this causes me to engage in behavior that humans would not consider "heroic" from their bigoted perspective, than so be it.


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** Perhaps what truly makes my UltimateUniverse counterpart so disgusting is that he has no reason to be a mutant supremacist. He was not a victim of the Nazis or even of prejudice in general that we know of, instead being born to an affluent and high society family. Yet he chose to take up the cause of mutant supremacy to a level even I would shudder at.
27th May '16 11:59:02 AM WanderingBrowser
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-->''When I was a child, my people talked while others prepared for war! They used reason when others used tanks, and they were destroyed for their troubles. I won't stand by and watch it happen again, I WON'T!''
27th May '16 12:55:22 AM WanderingBrowser
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* AmbiguouslyJewish: I am but this is sometimes intentional. Marvel at one point Retconned my ethnic status away while they were preparing for one of my more vicious phases, afraid that such a villain being Jewish would seem anti-Semitic and cause problems. Naturally, no one wondered if it was anti-''mutant''. And if you're wondering what they changed me to, it was, as I sort of mentioned before, a Sinte. It was a rather disingenuous move given their motivations.

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* AmbiguouslyJewish: I am Jewish by birth, but this aspect of my character is sometimes intentional. not always openly stated. In addition to more specific examples mentioned below, it's never made clear if I actually practice the Judaic faith.
** In the comics, at one point,
Marvel at one point Retconned my ethnic status away while they were preparing for one of my more vicious phases, afraid that such a villain being Jewish would seem anti-Semitic and cause problems. Naturally, no one wondered if it was anti-''mutant''. And if you're wondering what they changed me to, it was, as I sort of mentioned before, a Sinte. It was a rather disingenuous move given their motivations.motivations.
** In [[WesternAnimation/XMen the 90s cartoon series]], I was stripped of my status as a Holocaust survivor, as World War II and the Nazis were not allowed due to the insipid "moral code" of human animation producers. Instead, I was given a background as a boy from a [[{{Ruritania}} more generic Eastern European country]] which was invaded and conquered in a more recent armed conflict, with my parents being killed during the invasion. Though not quite as horrific as the Holocaust, it still convinced me that using reason in the face of violence was a foolish gambit, and that humanity was far too brutal and warlike to make coexistence a possibility.
26th May '16 6:43:32 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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Despite my resentment towards humans, I admit that some of them have portrayed me in a clever way in the films. The actors that played me are Creator/IanMcKellen and Creator/MichaelFassbender. My voice was also given by John Stephenson, [[WesternAnimation/XMen David Hemblen]], [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution Christopher Judge]], [[XMenLegends Tony Jay, Richard Green]], [[MarvelUltimateAlliance John DiMaggio]], and [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen Tom]] [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom Kane]].

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Despite my resentment towards humans, I admit that some of them have portrayed me in a clever way in the films. The actors that played me are Creator/IanMcKellen and Creator/MichaelFassbender. My voice was also given by John Stephenson, [[WesternAnimation/XMen David Hemblen]], [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution Christopher Judge]], [[XMenLegends [[VideoGame/XMenLegends Tony Jay, Richard Green]], [[MarvelUltimateAlliance John DiMaggio]], and [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen Tom]] [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom Kane]].
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