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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 105 (including this wick check), but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.

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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 105 108 (including this wick check), but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.
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* Anime.TheKindlyLion: Due to the different aging rate between a lion and a dog, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mukumuku.PNG Muku-muku becomes an old dog by the time Buru-Buru grows up to become an adult lion]]. She's notably skinnier, slower paced, relaxed, and has wrinkles around her face. '''[[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples Weblink]] aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character.'''

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* Anime.TheKindlyLion: Due to the different aging rate between a lion and a dog, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mukumuku.PNG Muku-muku becomes an old dog by the time Buru-Buru grows up to become an adult lion]]. She's notably skinnier, slower paced, relaxed, and has wrinkles around her face. '''[[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples Weblink]] aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character.character's appearance.'''

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* Series.HeeHaw: One frequent segment called The Moonshiners, where a couple of the cast would lazily tell a joke while dozing on the floor near a bunch of moonshine jugs and [[OldDog Beauregard the]] Wonder Dog (Kingfish the Wonder Dog in earlier shows), with scantily dressed girls in the background.
* NewsParody: KORN News '''In a LazyBum example. Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear.'''

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* Series.HeeHaw: One frequent segment called The Moonshiners, where a couple of the cast would lazily tell a joke while dozing on the floor near a bunch of moonshine jugs and [[OldDog Beauregard the]] Wonder Dog (Kingfish the Wonder Dog in earlier shows), with scantily dressed girls in the background.
* NewsParody: KORN News '''In a LazyBum example. Ties
background. '''Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear.'''



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* Main.OldDog: '''The trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but I personally see no clear narrative meaning behind them.'''
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Wicks checked: '''Wicks checked''': 50/50. For the purposes of this wick check, I'm counting both examples from Characters.LadyAndTheTramp as a single wick.
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* Film.RedDog. Red Dog in the narrative present. '''Just a name and a segment of the narrative.'''

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* Film.RedDog. RedDog: Red Dog in the narrative present. '''Just a name and a segment part of the narrative.'''



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* Literature.ChickenChicken: One of the store owners in Crystal's town, Mr. Horace, owned an old hound that was very lazy and looked as if he owned the town. During the egg fight between Cole and Anthony, the dog just lay in the street and hardly paid attention to the event unfolding in front of him. Even when Anthony drops the egg on the ground and trips over the dog, the animal hardly notices and simply began licking egg yolk off the ground. '''Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence.'''
* Literature.StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch: By ''Rise of the Federation'', lovable old Porthos is... well, old. Archer is increasingly forced to realise even with 22nd century medicine he won't have his furry friend around much longer. '''Relevant to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to an application of its sci-fi context.'''
* Literature.SwordOfTheRightfulKing: Arthur has an old white brachet hound. She has been with him since he was a young boy and now spends most of her time dozing at his feet. She still has enough pep to defend her master from bandits, but at the cost of her own life. '''Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.'''
* Literature.TheSunneInSplendour: Gareth is given to Richard when the dog is just a puppy and Richard is still a boy. But time passes, and Richard and Anne, now adults, find the old dog's passing sorrowful. '''Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.'''



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* Characters/TheRomanMysteries: Flavia notes he's getting on in years, especially when compared to the puppies. '''Just says he's old in comparison to other dog characters.'''

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* Characters/TheRomanMysteries: Characters.TheRomanMysteries: Flavia notes he's getting on in years, especially when compared to the puppies. '''Just says he's old in comparison to other dog characters.'''



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* VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes: Toby is said to be old. '''Just says the dog is seen as old within the narrative.'''

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* VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes: Literature.TheOdyssey: Argos, who dies at an age of at least ''20 years''. '''Just gives a name and states how old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as is doesn't make that clear.'''
* Manga.HowToKeepAMummy: Surprisingly, Pochi is one. She's revealed to actually be ''fifty'' years old, and has a lifespan of at least ''100'' years. Aayan is also technically this, as he's a living Anubis statue that was found in an antique shop. '''Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old.'''
* VideoGame.FarnhamFables: Barnabas, the Edison family's dog, is an elderly bloodhound who can be found lazing at the stables in episodes 2 and 3. '''Just says that the dog is old with a description to support this.'''
* VideoGame.TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes:
Toby is said to be old. '''Just says the dog is seen as old within the narrative.'''



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* Series.HeeHaw: One frequent segment called The Moonshiners, where a couple of the cast would lazily tell a joke while dozing on the floor near a bunch of moonshine jugs and [[OldDog Beauregard the]] Wonder Dog (Kingfish the Wonder Dog in earlier shows), with scantily dressed girls in the background.
* NewsParody: KORN News '''In a LazyBum example. Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear.'''
* TropesThatWillNeverHappen.XMeetsYEntriesHToN: {{Old|Dog}} {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} '''Pothole in a JustForFun page.'''
* WesternAnimation.YoungJusticeRevivalSeries: Wolf spends most of his screentime [[OldDog napping]]. '''Describes Wolf's actions, implying a link between age and inactivity.'''



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* Main.OldDog: '''The trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but I personally see no clear narrative meaning behind them.'''



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67 is in Literature.ChickenChicken. '''Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence.''' Meaningful.

68 is in Literature.StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. '''Relevant to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to an application of its sci-fi context.''' Meaningful.

70 is in Literature.SwordOfTheRightfulKing. '''Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.'''

73 is in Literature.TheOdyssey. '''Just gives a name and states how old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as is doesn't make that clear.''' Unclear Use.

75 is in Literature/TheSunneInSplendour. '''Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.'''

77 is in Manga/HowToKeepAMummy. '''Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old.''' Chairs.

88 is a pothole in Series/HeeHaw. '''Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear.''' Pothole.

92 is a pothole in TropesThatWillNeverHappen/XMeetsYEntriesHToN, another JustForFun page. Pothole.

93 is in VideoGame/FarnhamFables. '''Just says that the dog is old with a description to support this.''' Chairs.

95 is in WarriorCats/TropesNToT. '''Goes off on an irrelevant tangent about Sam's role in the narrative.''' Other.

103 is a pothole in WesternAnimation/YoungJusticeRevivalSeries. Describes Wolf's actions, implying a link between age and inactivity. Pothole.

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67 is in Literature.ChickenChicken. '''Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence.''' Meaningful.

68 is in Literature.StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. '''Relevant to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to
* WarriorCats.TropesNToT: In ''The Rise of Scourge'', an application of its sci-fi context.''' Meaningful.

70 is in Literature.SwordOfTheRightfulKing. '''Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.'''

73 is in Literature.TheOdyssey. '''Just gives a name and states how
old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this called Sam is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as sleeping in an alley. Tiny is doesn't make that clear.''' Unclear Use.

75 is in Literature/TheSunneInSplendour. '''Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.'''

77 is in Manga/HowToKeepAMummy. '''Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old.''' Chairs.

88 is a pothole in Series/HeeHaw. '''Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature,
afraid it'll eat him, but it's not clear.''' Pothole.

92 is
too old to chase him, and it loses a pothole in TropesThatWillNeverHappen/XMeetsYEntriesHToN, another JustForFun page. Pothole.

93 is in VideoGame/FarnhamFables. '''Just says
tooth as it gets up. As Tiny tries to use the tooth to get his collar off, it gets stuck, and then he claims he got it by ''killing'' a dog. So it's thanks to Sam the OldDog that the dog is old with a description to support this.''' Chairs.

95 is in WarriorCats/TropesNToT.
Tiny became Scourge, leader of [=BloodClan=]. '''Goes off on an irrelevant tangent about Sam's role in the narrative.''' Other.

103 is a pothole in WesternAnimation/YoungJusticeRevivalSeries. Describes Wolf's actions, implying a link between age and inactivity. Pothole.
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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 105, but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.

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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 105, 105 (including this wick check), but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.



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* Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5: 7 years is a pretty senior age for a dog, and the fact Cosmo is generally tired of life and has a smoking habit only further exacerbates his old looks. '''His age appears to signify his jaded characterisation.'''
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* Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5: Characters.JojosOCTournamentT5: 7 years is a pretty senior age for a dog, and the fact Cosmo is generally tired of life and has a smoking habit only further exacerbates his old looks. '''His age appears to signify his jaded characterisation.'''
* Characters.TheSecretLifeOfPets: He's getting on in years and grizzled, but still has what it takes, both to survive and to tutor Max. '''Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful, but should be expanded upon for clarity.'''
* ComicBook.{{Laika}}: Gertruda is a smart, scruffy old stray dog who befriends Kudryavka. She's smart enough to not be tempted by food from those she knows will try to catch her. '''Links the character's age to her characterisation.'''
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* Manga.DogSignal: Ribbon the Giant Poodle is one as she's 12 years old by the time she was introduced in the manga. Chapters that feature her and her owner involves the owner doing his best to keep Ribbon active and healthy for as long as possible before she eventually passes on from aging, and also speak of possible issues that an aging dog may experience in contrast to its younger compatriots. '''When I first checked this wick, the second sentence didn't exist and the example was therefore Chairs. However, it now gives a meaningful application of the trope because it's linked to the other characters caring for her.'''



* Anime/TheKindlyLion: Due to the different aging rate between a lion and a dog, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mukumuku.PNG Muku-muku becomes an old dog by the time Buru-Buru grows up to become an adult lion]]. She's notably skinnier, slower paced, relaxed, and has wrinkles around her face. '''[[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples Weblink]] aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character.'''
* Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse: Jake is still alive by the time of ''Fionna and Cake'', but is now ''very'' old and lethargic. He's so wrinkly that Cake's paw print stays on his head for hours, [[spoiler:tipping off Scarab that Fionna and Cake had been to the house]]. '''Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use, the fact that this becomes an in-universe clue notwithstanding.'''
* Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel: He is a dog who is apparently old enough to be a grandfather. '''Only says he's old and nothing else.'''
* Characters/EarthboundBeginnings: According to Encyclopedia MOTHER, Mick was one year, five months old when Ninten was born, making him about thirteen years old during the events of the game. '''Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Also, I'm not sure if the source referenced is reliable.'''
* Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily: He's at least over ten, as he was a puppy when Kevin was a toddler. '''Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise.'''
* Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives: She was brought home as a puppy before Bobby was conceived, meaning she's at least 14 years old by the show's end. This puts her right at the tail end of a bloodhound's lifespan, which averages 10-12 years. '''Yet another meaningless calculation.'''
* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: Scratchy and Sparky are the eldest dogs in the gang. '''Just says that they're older than everyone else.'''

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* Anime/TheKindlyLion: Anime.TheKindlyLion: Due to the different aging rate between a lion and a dog, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mukumuku.PNG Muku-muku becomes an old dog by the time Buru-Buru grows up to become an adult lion]]. She's notably skinnier, slower paced, relaxed, and has wrinkles around her face. '''[[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples Weblink]] aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character.'''
* Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse: Characters.AdventureTimeMultiverse: Jake is still alive by the time of ''Fionna and Cake'', but is now ''very'' old and lethargic. He's so wrinkly that Cake's paw print stays on his head for hours, [[spoiler:tipping off Scarab that Fionna and Cake had been to the house]]. '''Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use, the use. The fact that this becomes an in-universe clue notwithstanding.comes off as irrelevant to the trope in its current state.'''
* Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel: Characters.AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel: He is a dog who is apparently old enough to be a grandfather. '''Only says he's old and nothing else.'''
* Characters/EarthboundBeginnings: Characters.EarthboundBeginnings: According to Encyclopedia MOTHER, Mick was one year, five months old when Ninten was born, making him about thirteen years old during the events of the game. '''Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Also, I'm not sure if the source referenced is reliable.'''
* Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily: Characters.FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily: He's at least over ten, as he was a puppy when Kevin was a toddler. '''Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise.'''
* Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives: Characters.KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives: She was brought home as a puppy before Bobby was conceived, meaning she's at least 14 years old by the show's end. This puts her right at the tail end of a bloodhound's lifespan, which averages 10-12 years. '''Yet another meaningless calculation.'''
* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: Characters.LadyAndTheTramp: Scratchy and Sparky are the eldest dogs in the gang. '''Just says that they're older than everyone else. (Also on the page concerning a different character --''' He always likes telling one of his old stories. '''ZCE because it refers to a character trait without clearly explaining that he's old himself.''')
* Characters.OnePieceBlueSeas: He's 12-years-old, which corresponds to 84 dog years, although he [[OlderThanHeLooks doesn't look that old]]. '''Just says how old he is, even if looks deceive.'''
* Characters.PokeFiends: Well beyond her years of battling now. '''Just says she's gotten old.'''
* Characters.SurvivorDogs: He's an old dog that's lived most of his life alone on the streets. '''Just says he's old.'''
* Characters/TheRomanMysteries: Flavia notes he's getting on in years, especially when compared to the puppies. '''Just says he's old in comparison to other dog characters.'''
* Characters.WarriorCatsOthers: He is quite old, and is shown to walk slowly when his owner calls him. '''Uses an action as evidence, but just to say that he's old.'''
* Literature.CastawaysOfTheFlyingDutchman: Ned's several centuries old, although he doesn't age. '''Just states that the dog is old despite not aging.'''
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* VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes: Toby is said to be old. '''Just says the dog is seen as old within the narrative.
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* Characters/GameOfDogs: The EvilOldFolks version. '''Links to another trope and that's it.''
* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: He always likes telling one of his old stories. '''Refers to a character trait without clearly explaining that he's old himself.'''

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* Characters/GameOfDogs: Characters.GameOfDogs: The EvilOldFolks version. '''Links to another trope and that's it.''
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* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: He always likes telling one of his old stories. '''Refers to a character trait Characters.LegendOfTheThreeCaballeros: Bors the Younger is an anthropomorphic example. '''But how exactly?'''
* Characters.NarutoTeamEightMembers: [[spoiler:In the epilogue.]] '''Completely spoilered out. Just gives an episode
without clearly explaining that an explanation.'''
* Characters.YoungJustice2010TheTeamSeasonOne: How
he's old himself.treated by the Team these days. '''Doesn't explain how the trope applies and just states how other characters relate to him.'''
* Fanfic.GameOfDogs: Implied for Samniel. '''Implied how?'''
* Film.RedDog. Red Dog in the narrative present. '''Just a name and a segment of the narrative.'''
* Literature.TheFoxAndTheHound: Copper '''Classic ZCE -- just the trope and a name.'''
* Music.TurnpikeTroubadours: Jim, in "The Bird Hunters." '''Just a name and a song title.
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* Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling: In "Grandpa Bernie Cleans Up", an OldDog named Candy complains that she's too "achy" to dig or play due to her old age. '''No clear reference is made to the example's narrative relevance.'''

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* Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling: Main.ElderlyAilmentRambling: In "Grandpa Bernie Cleans Up", an OldDog named Candy complains that she's too "achy" to dig or play due to her old age. '''No clear reference is made to the example's narrative relevance.'''
* Characters.SpyXFamilyForgerFamilyAndAssociates: Noted to be a bit long in the tooth. During the dog competition with Handler, he's visibly winded after running a course for two minutes, whereas Handler's dog completed the same course in under 40 seconds and looked perfectly fine. '''Compares his athletic ability to that of another canine character, but it's not clear if this is meaningful to the storytelling.'''
* Film.QuizLady: Mr. Linguini, the sisters' dog[[note]]nominally Jenny's, functionally Anne's[[/note]] is a 20-year-old pug. While he spends most of his time sleeping, Anne deeply loves him and considers him her only friend and main source of emotional support, and is distraught when he is kidnapped for ransom. '''Doesn't seem relevant to the example's point.
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* Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult: Throughout "Patriot Games", [[BrainyBaby Stewie]] gives a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to [[OldDog Brian]], [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he was late owing him fifty bucks]]. '''Pothole appears gratuitous in nature.'''
* Characters/AnAmericanTail: A retired law [[OldDog dog]] that Fievel idolizes before he moves out west. He then teams up with Fievel and trains Tiger to take his place. '''Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"?'''
* Characters/InazumaElevenMain: Tenma loves [[OldDog Sasuke]]. '''The only mention Sasuke has on the page.'''

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* Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult: Main.DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult: Throughout "Patriot Games", [[BrainyBaby Stewie]] gives a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to [[OldDog Brian]], [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he was late owing him fifty bucks]]. '''Pothole appears gratuitous in nature.'''
* Characters/AnAmericanTail: Characters.AnAmericanTail: A retired law [[OldDog dog]] that Fievel idolizes before he moves out west. He then teams up with Fievel and trains Tiger to take his place. '''Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"?'''
* Characters/InazumaElevenMain: Characters.InazumaElevenMain: Tenma loves [[OldDog Sasuke]]. '''The only mention Sasuke has on the page.'''



* AgingTropes: A dog who is getting on in years.
* Main/OldDog: the trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but I personally see no clear narrative meaning behind them.
* ThisIndexBarks: A dog who's getting on in years.
* Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists: Our second main protagonist, a Year 11 and LoveInterest of Charlie. He is a big-hearted LovableJock with shades of DumbBlonde. He also owns an OldDog named Nellie. '''One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page.'''

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* Main.AgingTropes: A dog who is getting on in years.
years. '''Index.'''
* Main/OldDog: the Main.OldDog: '''The trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but I personally see no clear narrative meaning behind them.
them.'''
* Main.ThisIndexBarks: A dog who's getting on in years.
years. '''Index.'''
* Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists: Characters.HeartstopperProtagonists: Our second main protagonist, a Year 11 and LoveInterest of Charlie. He is a big-hearted LovableJock with shades of DumbBlonde. He also owns an OldDog named Nellie. '''One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page.'''
* Characters.TenchuStealthAssassins: If it is the same Semimaru, he had been assisting the Azuma for decades, as he appears in ''Tenchu Z'' with the use of the dog bone. '''Administrivia/SpeculativeTroping as it relies on the assumed idea that the Semimaru in one game is the same as the Semimaru in a different game in the same series.'''
* GetAStupidAnswer.WesternAnimation: You can't teach an OldDog new tricks. '''Link to the trope title in a JustForFun page.'''
* ImageSource.AnimatedFilms: '''States the source media for the Main page image.
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31 is in the "Knights of the Round Table" folder in Characters/LegendOfTheThreeCaballeros, referring to Bors the Younger. But how exactly is he an anthropomorphic example? ZCE.

34 is in Akamaru's folder in Characters/NarutoTeamEightMembers. Completely spoilered out. Just gives an episode without an explanation. ZCE.

37 is in Chouchou's folder in Characters/OnePieceBlueSeas. Just says how old he is, even if looks deceive. Chairs.

38 is in the "Republic of Seafoam Military Personnel" folder in Characters/PokeFiends, referring to William Blackmoore's Sandslash. Just says she's old with no explanation. ZCE.

39 is in Bond Forger's folder in Characters/SpyXFamilyForgerFamilyAndAssociates. Compares his athletic ability to that of another canine character, but it's not clear if this is meaningful to the storytelling. Unclear Use.

42 is in the "Other Dogs" folder in Characters/SurvivorDogs, referring to Old Hunter. Just says he's old. Chairs.

43 is in Semimaru's folder in Characters/TenchuStealthAssassins. Administrivia/SpeculativeTroping as it relies on the assumed idea that the Semimaru in one game is the same as the Semimaru in a different game in the same series. Other.

46 is in the "Flavia's House" folder in Characters/TheRomanMysteries, referring to Scuto. Just says he's old in comparison to puppies. (No doy!) Chairs.

48 is in Rooster's folder in Characters/TheSecretLifeOfPets. Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful, but could be expanded upon.

51 is in the "Other Animals" folder in Characters/WarriorCatsOthers, referring to Samwise. Uses an action as evidence, but just to say that he's old. Chairs.

53 is in Wolf's folder in Characters/YoungJustice2010TheTeamSeasonOne. Doesn't explain how the trope applies and just states how other characters relate to him. ZCE.

55 is in ComicBook/{{Laika}}. Links the character's age to her characterisation. Meaningful.

58 is in Fanfic/GameOfDogs. Implied how? ZCE.

61 is in Film/QuizLady. Doesn't seem relevant to the example's point. Unclear Use.

62 is in Film/RedDog. Just a name and a period of the narrative. ZCE.

64 is a link to the trope title in GetAStupidAnswer/WesternAnimation, a JustForFun page. Other.

65 is in ImageSource/AnimatedFilms, stating where the Main page image came from. Other.

66 is in Literature/CastawaysOfTheFlyingDutchman. Just states that the character is old despite not aging. Chairs.

67 is in Literature/ChickenChicken. Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence. Meaningful.

68 is in Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. Ties in to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to an application of its sci-fi context. Meaningful.

70 is in Literature/SwordOfTheRightfulKing. Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.

71 is in Literature/TheFoxAndTheHound. Just the trope and a name. ZCE.

73 is in Literature/TheOdyssey. Just gives a name and states how old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as is doesn't make that clear. ZCE.

75 is in Literature/TheSunneInSplendour. Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.

76 is in Manga/DogSignal. Gives evidence, but just to say that the dog is old. Chairs.

77 is in Manga/HowToKeepAMummy. Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old. Chairs.

79 is in Music/TurnpikeTroubadours. Just a name and a song title. ZCE.

88 is a pothole in Series/HeeHaw. Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear. Pothole.

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31 is in the "Knights of the Round Table" folder in Characters/LegendOfTheThreeCaballeros, referring to Bors the Younger. But how exactly is he an anthropomorphic example? ZCE.

34 is in Akamaru's folder in Characters/NarutoTeamEightMembers. Completely spoilered out. Just gives an episode without an explanation. ZCE.

37 is in Chouchou's folder in Characters/OnePieceBlueSeas. Just says how old he is, even if looks deceive. Chairs.

38 is in the "Republic of Seafoam Military Personnel" folder in Characters/PokeFiends, referring to William Blackmoore's Sandslash. Just says she's old with no explanation. ZCE.

39 is in Bond Forger's folder in Characters/SpyXFamilyForgerFamilyAndAssociates. Compares his athletic ability to that of another canine character, but it's not clear if this is meaningful to the storytelling. Unclear Use.

42 is in the "Other Dogs" folder in Characters/SurvivorDogs, referring to Old Hunter. Just says he's old. Chairs.

43 is in Semimaru's folder in Characters/TenchuStealthAssassins. Administrivia/SpeculativeTroping as it relies on the assumed idea that the Semimaru in one game is the same as the Semimaru in a different game in the same series. Other.

46 is in the "Flavia's House" folder in Characters/TheRomanMysteries, referring to Scuto. Just says he's old in comparison to puppies. (No doy!) Chairs.

48 is in Rooster's folder in Characters/TheSecretLifeOfPets. Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful, but could be expanded upon.

51 is in the "Other Animals" folder in Characters/WarriorCatsOthers, referring to Samwise. Uses an action as evidence, but just to say that he's old. Chairs.

53 is in Wolf's folder in Characters/YoungJustice2010TheTeamSeasonOne. Doesn't explain how the trope applies and just states how other characters relate to him. ZCE.

55 is in ComicBook/{{Laika}}. Links the character's age to her characterisation. Meaningful.

58 is in Fanfic/GameOfDogs. Implied how? ZCE.

61 is in Film/QuizLady. Doesn't seem relevant to the example's point. Unclear Use.

62 is in Film/RedDog. Just a name and a period of the narrative. ZCE.

64 is a link to the trope title in GetAStupidAnswer/WesternAnimation, a JustForFun page. Other.

65 is in ImageSource/AnimatedFilms, stating where the Main page image came from. Other.

66 is in Literature/CastawaysOfTheFlyingDutchman. Just states that the character is old despite not aging. Chairs.

67 is in Literature/ChickenChicken. Notes Literature.ChickenChicken. '''Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence. evidence.''' Meaningful.

68 is in Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. Ties in Literature.StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. '''Relevant to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to an application of its sci-fi context. context.''' Meaningful.

70 is in Literature/SwordOfTheRightfulKing. Old Literature.SwordOfTheRightfulKing. '''Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.

71 is in Literature/TheFoxAndTheHound. Just the trope and a name. ZCE.

refined.'''

73 is in Literature/TheOdyssey. Just Literature.TheOdyssey. '''Just gives a name and states how old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as is doesn't make that clear. ZCE.\n\n''' Unclear Use.

75 is in Literature/TheSunneInSplendour. Refers '''Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.

76 is in Manga/DogSignal. Gives evidence, but just to say that the dog is old. Chairs.

trope.'''

77 is in Manga/HowToKeepAMummy. Again, '''Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old. old.''' Chairs.

79 is in Music/TurnpikeTroubadours. Just a name and a song title. ZCE.

88 is a pothole in Series/HeeHaw. Ties '''Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear. clear.''' Pothole.



93 is in VideoGame/FarnhamFables. Just says that the dog is old with a description to support this. Chairs.

94 is VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes. Just says the dog is old with clear evidence. ZCE.

95 is in WarriorCats/TropesNToT. Goes off on an irrelevant tangent about Sam's role in the narrative. Other.

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93 is in VideoGame/FarnhamFables. Just '''Just says that the dog is old with a description to support this. this.''' Chairs.

94 is VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes. Just says the dog is old with clear evidence. ZCE.

95 is in WarriorCats/TropesNToT. Goes '''Goes off on an irrelevant tangent about Sam's role in the narrative. narrative.''' Other.

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* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: Scratchy and Sparky are the eldest dogs in the gang. '''Just says that they're older than everyone else.'''



* Characters/LadyAndTheTramp: He always likes telling one of his old stories. '''Refers to a character trait without clearly explaining that he's old himself.'''



29 is in Ladybird's folder in Chairs.

30 has the trope listed twice in Characters/LadyAndTheTramp, first in Trusty's folder and then in the "Junkyard Dogs" folder in reference to Scratchy and Sparky. Both listings contain one sentence; Trusty's refers to a character trait without clearly explaining the "old" part of the trope, while Scratchy and Sparky's just says that they're old with no explanation. ZCE.

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* Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5: 7 years is a pretty senior age for a dog, and the fact Cosmo is generally tired of life and has a smoking habit only further exacerbates his old looks. '''His age appears to signify his jaded characterisation.'''



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* Anime/TheKindlyLion: Due to the different aging rate between a lion and a dog, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mukumuku.PNG Muku-muku becomes an old dog by the time Buru-Buru grows up to become an adult lion]]. She's notably skinnier, slower paced, relaxed, and has wrinkles around her face. '''[[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples Weblink]] aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character.'''
* Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse: Jake is still alive by the time of ''Fionna and Cake'', but is now ''very'' old and lethargic. He's so wrinkly that Cake's paw print stays on his head for hours, [[spoiler:tipping off Scarab that Fionna and Cake had been to the house]]. '''Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use, the fact that this becomes an in-universe clue notwithstanding.'''
* Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel: He is a dog who is apparently old enough to be a grandfather. '''Only says he's old and nothing else.'''
* Characters/EarthboundBeginnings: According to Encyclopedia MOTHER, Mick was one year, five months old when Ninten was born, making him about thirteen years old during the events of the game. '''Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Also, I'm not sure if the source referenced is reliable.'''
* Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily: He's at least over ten, as he was a puppy when Kevin was a toddler. '''Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise.'''
* Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives: She was brought home as a puppy before Bobby was conceived, meaning she's at least 14 years old by the show's end. This puts her right at the tail end of a bloodhound's lifespan, which averages 10-12 years. '''Yet another meaningless calculation.'''



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* Characters/GameOfDogs: The EvilOldFolks version. '''Links to another trope and that's it.''



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* Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling: In "Grandpa Bernie Cleans Up", an OldDog named Candy complains that she's too "achy" to dig or play due to her old age. '''No clear reference is made to the example's narrative relevance.'''



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* Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult: Throughout "Patriot Games", [[BrainyBaby Stewie]] gives a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to [[OldDog Brian]], [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he was late owing him fifty bucks]]. '''Pothole appears gratuitous in nature.'''
* Characters/AnAmericanTail: A retired law [[OldDog dog]] that Fievel idolizes before he moves out west. He then teams up with Fievel and trains Tiger to take his place. '''Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"?'''
* Characters/InazumaElevenMain: Tenma loves [[OldDog Sasuke]]. '''The only mention Sasuke has on the page.'''



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* AgingTropes: A dog who is getting on in years.
* Main/OldDog: the trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but I personally see no clear narrative meaning behind them.
* ThisIndexBarks: A dog who's getting on in years.
* Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists: Our second main protagonist, a Year 11 and LoveInterest of Charlie. He is a big-hearted LovableJock with shades of DumbBlonde. He also owns an OldDog named Nellie. '''One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page.'''



1 is a listing in the AgingTropes index. Other.

3 is a pothole in Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult referring to Brian, a character from WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy. Appears gratuitous in nature. Potholes.

5 is a reference in Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling to a character not being as active as before in their old age. No clear reference is made to its narrative relevance. Unclear Use.

8 is the trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but no clear narrative meaning behind them. Other.

10 is a listing in ThisIndexBarks. Other.

12 is in the trope list for Anime/TheKindlyLion. Weblink aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character. Chairs.

14 is in Jake's folder in Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse. Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use. Chairs.

15 is a pothole in the "Characters from ''Fievel Goes West''" folder in Characters/AnAmericanTail. Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"? Potholes.

16 is in Stinkbomb D. Bassett's folder in Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel. Only says he's old and nothing else. Chairs.

21 is is in the "Ninten's Family" folder in Characters/EarthboundBeginnings. Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Chairs.

22 is in Major's folder in Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily. Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise. Chairs.

23 is in the "Randell's Pack" folder in Characters/GameOfDogs. Links to another trope and that's it. ZCE.

26 is a wick in Nick Nelson's folder in Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists. One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page. Unclear Use.

27 is a pothole in Matsukaze Tenma / Arion Sherwind's folder in Characters/InazumaElevenMain. The only mention Sasuke has on the page. Pothole.

28 is in the "Sharp Lookers" folder in Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5, referring to Prince Cosmo. Appears to signify his jaded characterisation. Meaningful.

29 is in Ladybird's folder in Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives. Another meaningless calculation. Chairs.

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1 is a listing in the AgingTropes index. Other.

3 is a pothole in Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult referring to Brian, a character from WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy. Appears gratuitous in nature. Potholes.

5 is a reference in Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling to a character not being as active as before in their old age. No clear reference is made to its narrative relevance. Unclear Use.

8 is the trope's Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but no clear narrative meaning behind them. Other.

10 is a listing in ThisIndexBarks. Other.

12 is in the trope list for Anime/TheKindlyLion. Weblink aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character. Chairs.

14 is in Jake's folder in Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse. Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use. Chairs.

15 is a pothole in the "Characters from ''Fievel Goes West''" folder in Characters/AnAmericanTail. Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"? Potholes.

16 is in Stinkbomb D. Bassett's folder in Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel. Only says he's old and nothing else. Chairs.

21 is is in the "Ninten's Family" folder in Characters/EarthboundBeginnings. Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Chairs.

22 is in Major's folder in Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily. Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise. Chairs.

23 is in the "Randell's Pack" folder in Characters/GameOfDogs. Links to another trope and that's it. ZCE.

26 is a wick in Nick Nelson's folder in Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists. One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page. Unclear Use.

27 is a pothole in Matsukaze Tenma / Arion Sherwind's folder in Characters/InazumaElevenMain. The only mention Sasuke has on the page. Pothole.

28 is in the "Sharp Lookers" folder in Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5, referring to Prince Cosmo. Appears to signify his jaded characterisation. Meaningful.

29 is in Ladybird's folder in Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives. Another meaningless calculation. in Chairs.
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3 is a pothole referring to Brian, a character from WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, which appears gratuitous in nature. Potholes.

5 is a reference to a character not being as active as before in their old age. No clear reference is made to its narrative relevance. Unclear Use.

8 is the trope's main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but no clear narrative meaning behind them. Other.

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3 is a pothole in Main/DoubleStandardViolenceChildOnAdult referring to Brian, a character from WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, which appears WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy. Appears gratuitous in nature. Potholes.

5 is a reference in Main/ElderlyAilmentRambling to a character not being as active as before in their old age. No clear reference is made to its narrative relevance. Unclear Use.

8 is the trope's main Main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but no clear narrative meaning behind them. Other.



55 is in ComicBook/Laika. It refers to a dog who is old and, therefore, wise enough to avoid falling into traps. Links the character's age to her characterisation. Meaningful.

58 is TBC.

61 is TBC.

62 is TBC.

64 is TBC.

65 is TBC.

66 is TBC.

67 is TBC.

68 is TBC.

70 is TBC.

71 is TBC.

73 is TBC.

75 is TBC.

76 is TBC.

77 is TBC.

79 is TBC.

88 is TBC.

92 is TBC.

93 is TBC.

94 is TBC.

95 is TBC.

103 is TBC.

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55 is in ComicBook/Laika. It refers to a dog who is old and, therefore, wise enough to avoid falling into traps.ComicBook/{{Laika}}. Links the character's age to her characterisation. Meaningful.

58 is TBC.

in Fanfic/GameOfDogs. Implied how? ZCE.

61 is TBC.

in Film/QuizLady. Doesn't seem relevant to the example's point. Unclear Use.

62 is TBC.

in Film/RedDog. Just a name and a period of the narrative. ZCE.

64 is TBC.

a link to the trope title in GetAStupidAnswer/WesternAnimation, a JustForFun page. Other.

65 is TBC.

in ImageSource/AnimatedFilms, stating where the Main page image came from. Other.

66 is TBC.

in Literature/CastawaysOfTheFlyingDutchman. Just states that the character is old despite not aging. Chairs.

67 is TBC.

in Literature/ChickenChicken. Notes how the dog's age has led to action-ignorant lethargy, giving events as evidence. Meaningful.

68 is TBC.

in Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch. Ties in to a potential tear-jerking moment in the work tied to an application of its sci-fi context. Meaningful.

70 is TBC.

in Literature/SwordOfTheRightfulKing. Old and therefore lethargic, but is there when it counts. Meaningful but could be refined.

71 is TBC.

in Literature/TheFoxAndTheHound. Just the trope and a name. ZCE.

73 is TBC.

in Literature/TheOdyssey. Just gives a name and states how old the dog was when he died. Further investigation reveals that this is connected to a heartwarming reunion, but the example as is doesn't make that clear. ZCE.

75 is TBC.

in Literature/TheSunneInSplendour. Refers to a tear-jerking moment. Meaningful, but could be refined depending on what happens to the trope.

76 is TBC.

in Manga/DogSignal. Gives evidence, but just to say that the dog is old. Chairs.

77 is TBC.

in Manga/HowToKeepAMummy. Again, just gives evidence for the characters being old. Chairs.

79 is TBC.

in Music/TurnpikeTroubadours. Just a name and a song title. ZCE.

88 is TBC.

a pothole in Series/HeeHaw. Ties his age to his apparent lazy nature, but it's not clear. Pothole.

92 is TBC.

a pothole in TropesThatWillNeverHappen/XMeetsYEntriesHToN, another JustForFun page. Pothole.

93 is TBC.

in VideoGame/FarnhamFables. Just says that the dog is old with a description to support this. Chairs.

94 is TBC.

VideoGame/TheTestamentOfSherlockHolmes. Just says the dog is old with clear evidence. ZCE.

95 is TBC.

in WarriorCats/TropesNToT. Goes off on an irrelevant tangent about Sam's role in the narrative. Other.

103 is TBC.a pothole in WesternAnimation/YoungJusticeRevivalSeries. Describes Wolf's actions, implying a link between age and inactivity. Pothole.
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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 104, but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.

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'''The Issue''': Not only does OldDog have a comparatively low wick count at 104, 105, but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. The fact that it doesn't even have a Laconic page is suspect of this as well because it implies that the Main page also functions as the trope in a nutshell. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.



30 has the trope listed twice in Characters/LadyAndTheTramp, first in Trusty's folder and then in the "Junkyard Dogs" folder in reference to Scratchy and Sparky. Both listings contain one sentence; Trusty's refers to a character trait without clearly explaining the "old" part of the trope, while Scratchy and Sparky's just says that they're old. ZCE.

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30 has the trope listed twice in Characters/LadyAndTheTramp, first in Trusty's folder and then in the "Junkyard Dogs" folder in reference to Scratchy and Sparky. Both listings contain one sentence; Trusty's refers to a character trait without clearly explaining the "old" part of the trope, while Scratchy and Sparky's just says that they're old.old with no explanation. ZCE.



38 is in the "Republic of Seafoam Military Personnel" folder in Characters/PokeFiends, referring to William Blackmoore's Sandslash. Just says shes's old. ZCE.

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38 is in the "Republic of Seafoam Military Personnel" folder in Characters/PokeFiends, referring to William Blackmoore's Sandslash. Just says shes's old.she's old with no explanation. ZCE.



48 is in Rooster's folder in Characters/TheSecretLifeOfPets. Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful.

51 is TBC.

53 is TBC.

55 is TBC.

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48 is in Rooster's folder in Characters/TheSecretLifeOfPets. Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful.

Meaningful, but could be expanded upon.

51 is TBC.

in the "Other Animals" folder in Characters/WarriorCatsOthers, referring to Samwise. Uses an action as evidence, but just to say that he's old. Chairs.

53 is TBC.

in Wolf's folder in Characters/YoungJustice2010TheTeamSeasonOne. Doesn't explain how the trope applies and just states how other characters relate to him. ZCE.

55 is TBC.
in ComicBook/Laika. It refers to a dog who is old and, therefore, wise enough to avoid falling into traps. Links the character's age to her characterisation. Meaningful.

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1 is a listing in the AgingTropes index. Other.

3 is a pothole referring to Brian, a character from WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, which appears gratuitous in nature. Potholes.

5 is a reference to a character not being as active as before in their old age. No clear reference is made to its narrative relevance. Unclear Use.

8 is the trope's main page. The trope description lists traits associated with old dogs, but no clear narrative meaning behind them. Other.

10 is a listing in ThisIndexBarks. Other.

12 is in the trope list for Anime/TheKindlyLion. Weblink aside, not meaningful use since it only describes the character. Chairs.

14 is in Jake's folder in Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse. Describes charcteristics, therefore not meaningful use. Chairs.

15 is a pothole in the "Characters from ''Fievel Goes West''" folder in Characters/AnAmericanTail. Why is "dog" potholed, but not "retired"? Potholes.

16 is in Stinkbomb D. Bassett's folder in Characters/AnimaniacsSlappySquirrel. Only says he's old and nothing else. Chairs.

21 is is in the "Ninten's Family" folder in Characters/EarthboundBeginnings. Seems to be the result of calculating his age based on how old Ninten is. Above the average life expectancy for dogs, but no meaning is conveyed. Chairs.

22 is in Major's folder in Characters/FIsForFamilyMurphyFamily. Another calculation result. Meaningless otherwise. Chairs.

23 is in the "Randell's Pack" folder in Characters/GameOfDogs. Links to another trope and that's it. ZCE.

26 is a wick in Nick Nelson's folder in Characters/HeartstopperProtagonists. One of only two mentions Nellie has on the page. Unclear Use.

27 is a pothole in Matsukaze Tenma / Arion Sherwind's folder in Characters/InazumaElevenMain. The only mention Sasuke has on the page. Pothole.

28 is in the "Sharp Lookers" folder in Characters/JojosOCTournamentT5, referring to Prince Cosmo. Appears to signify his jaded characterisation. Meaningful.

29 is in Ladybird's folder in Characters/KingOfTheHillTheHillsFamilyAndOtherRelatives. Another meaningless calculation. Chairs.

30 has the trope listed twice in Characters/LadyAndTheTramp, first in Trusty's folder and then in the "Junkyard Dogs" folder in reference to Scratchy and Sparky. Both listings contain one sentence; Trusty's refers to a character trait without clearly explaining the "old" part of the trope, while Scratchy and Sparky's just says that they're old. ZCE.

31 is in the "Knights of the Round Table" folder in Characters/LegendOfTheThreeCaballeros, referring to Bors the Younger. But how exactly is he an anthropomorphic example? ZCE.

34 is in Akamaru's folder in Characters/NarutoTeamEightMembers. Completely spoilered out. Just gives an episode without an explanation. ZCE.

37 is in Chouchou's folder in Characters/OnePieceBlueSeas. Just says how old he is, even if looks deceive. Chairs.

38 is in the "Republic of Seafoam Military Personnel" folder in Characters/PokeFiends, referring to William Blackmoore's Sandslash. Just says shes's old. ZCE.

39 is in Bond Forger's folder in Characters/SpyXFamilyForgerFamilyAndAssociates. Compares his athletic ability to that of another canine character, but it's not clear if this is meaningful to the storytelling. Unclear Use.

42 is in the "Other Dogs" folder in Characters/SurvivorDogs, referring to Old Hunter. Just says he's old. Chairs.

43 is in Semimaru's folder in Characters/TenchuStealthAssassins. Administrivia/SpeculativeTroping as it relies on the assumed idea that the Semimaru in one game is the same as the Semimaru in a different game in the same series. Other.

46 is in the "Flavia's House" folder in Characters/TheRomanMysteries, referring to Scuto. Just says he's old in comparison to puppies. (No doy!) Chairs.

48 is in Rooster's folder in Characters/TheSecretLifeOfPets. Rooster comes across in this example as an "old master" mentor to the main character. Meaningful.

51 is TBC.

53 is TBC.

55 is TBC.

58 is TBC.

61 is TBC.

62 is TBC.

64 is TBC.

65 is TBC.

66 is TBC.

67 is TBC.

68 is TBC.

70 is TBC.

71 is TBC.

73 is TBC.

75 is TBC.

76 is TBC.

77 is TBC.

79 is TBC.

88 is TBC.

92 is TBC.

93 is TBC.

94 is TBC.

95 is TBC.

103 is TBC.
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'''The Issue''': Not only does this trope have a comparatively low wick count at 104, but as discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16777244170A60445500&page=40#comment-991 the Chairs thread,]] the trope in its current state amounts to "old dogs exist in fiction" with no meaning being conveyed. Other tropers have suggested tightening the trope's scope to either: "the loyal old dog who waits for his master/lies down to die on his grave"; or a dog or other pet getting on in years and not moving about as much as they used to, if at all.

Due to the Chairs nature of the trope, I hypothesise that most of the examples I find in this wick check will be of the zero-context variety.

Wicks checked: 0/50.

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