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14th Jun '18 6:06:39 PM PiDa
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* People hated Raiden of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' for [[ReplacementScrappy replacing Snake]] as the protagonist and for his annoying tendencies. [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots The fourth game]], however, shows that, when you get right down to it, he is not someone you want to screw with.

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* People ''Franchise/MetalGear'':
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hated Raiden of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' for [[ReplacementScrappy replacing Snake]] as the protagonist and for his annoying tendencies. [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots The fourth game]], however, shows that, when you get right down to it, he is not someone you want to screw with.


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** The ''Literature/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' novelisation is generally appreciated for making various characters far more sympathetic and likeable.
***Instead of his AesopAmnesia crying scenes, StrangledByTheRedString romance subplot and terrible parenting of Sunny, Otacon is repeatedly portrayed as being able to hold back his tears until times when it is appropriate to release his emotions, at one point even admitting he feels revulsion at himself for being able to do it. The book also gives him deeply complicated and realistic feelings about Naomi and his own actions over the years that don't come across in the game and take full advantage of the prose format. (Plus, it establishes that he is still an {{otaku}}, and his claim that he "used to be" one was just him trying to look cool in front of Naomi...)
*** Naomi also comes across far better as her actions are related more to her backstory, and her death gets significantly more foreshadowing, as well as a better explanation of why she chose to do it (when in the game it comes across as a StupidSacrifice, or RuleOfSymbolism at best). The scene of her mentioning Otacon's beauty post-mortem is moved to a scene ''before'' she's dead, eliminating the ThirdDateMarriage issues which implied her feelings for him were timeless love, and also making it so Otacon's storyline with her doesn't end on such a cruel note.
*** Liquid is disliked for being an EvilIsHammy stock villain with an IdiotPlot plan, literally replacing the far more interesting TheDragon figure of Ocelot, and having a shallow motivation for his evil compared to the nuanced motivations of many ''Metal Gear'' villains. One chapter of the book goes into detail about Liquid's backstory, justifying his nihilism and desperation, while also portraying his actions as admirable, even forgivable responses to a life of being treated like dirt and intentionally driven mad. Otacon even comments that he can't see Liquid as being truly evil, and the book clearly states that Solid Snake found love and joy in fighting his brother by the end, something only implied in the original.
*** The BB Corps, hated by fandom for being [[FetishRetardant poorly implemented, sexist fanservice]] who all have the same {{Narm}}ful TraumaCongaLine backstory, simply don't show up in the novel at all apart from some of their cooler technology (like Laughing Octopus's bombs and Raging Raven's Sliders) ending up in the hands of regular soldiers. Which, er, is ''one'' way to deal with such hated characters.
4th May '18 10:16:59 PM MisterTambourineMan
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** Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptyr from ''Genealogy of the Holy War''. ''Shadows of Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and giving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that developed a mind of its own.]]
9th Apr '18 9:31:29 AM mario0987
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** Fi in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]''. Her single appearance in this game is [[spoiler: when her signature chime can be heard after Link has fallen from fighting so much he is on the brink of death. This chime alerts Zelda to the fact Link can be saved with the Shrine of Resurrection. In other words, she ended up saving Link's life.]] The lack of her CaptainObvious and bland characterisation really helps.
29th Mar '18 6:22:07 PM GBAuraRebirth
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** Fans are starting to warm up to [[TheDitz Big the Cat]] after ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' where his stupidity was funny rather than irritating.

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** Fans are starting to warm up to [[TheDitz Big the Cat]] was disliked by many fans in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' for his fishing gameplay, his lack of importance to the story and well as him being insufferably dumb. Some started to warm up to him in that not only the things that made him unlikable were removed, but after ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' where his stupidity was funny rather than irritating.rewritten in which he became one of the more amusing characters.
26th Mar '18 10:38:56 AM BeerBaron
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** Bosmer were usually weirdos and hated characters. Fargoth, Gaenor, Glarthir, Maglir, the Adoring Fan, the list just goes on and on and on. Cue ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', where the entire race [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]] and become a WoobieSpecies due to their genocidal racist Altmer cousins occupying Valenwood, and Bosmer go from being hands-down the least popular race to one of the fandom's favourites.
** In ''Skyrim'', the Thalmor made ScrewYouElves practically a rallying cry for the entire fandom. ''Everyone'' hated them, [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch even Altmer players]]. In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', the Altmer win back a great deal of their respect from many fans by credit of the sheer lengths they go to win the trust of their allies (including one quest where they pull a race-wide BigDamnHeroes on a besieged city) and counting a good number of likable and badass [=NPC=]s on their side.
** A character example in the series would be Master Neloth. In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', he was a huge ungrateful {{Jerkass}} whose relationship score was very difficult to raise and if you did his quest in the House Telvanni storyline, he would reward you with [[DudeWheresMyRespect a paltry 10 gold]]. ''Skyrim's'' DLC ''Dragonborn'' rectified this by, ironically enough, making him an even bigger Jerkass with a dash of MadScientist and BlackComedy as well as actually rewarding the Dragonborn properly on his quests this time and helping them during the DLC's main storyline. His popularity since then has shot to the level of characters like Sheogorath.

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'':
*** Through ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', the
Bosmer were usually weirdos (Wood Elves) comprise some of the most annoying characters in the series, drawing significant hatred from the fandom. Male Bosmer in particular are [[TinyGuyHugeGirl diminutive]], [[UglyGuyHotWife ugly]], and, from a gameplay perspective, are best used in ForestRanger-type builds but are even outclassed there by much "cooler" races who can function just as well in that role, such as the Dunmer (Dark Elves) and hated characters. CatFolk Khajiit. Fargoth, Gaenor, Glarthir, Maglir, the Adoring Fan, Fan...the list just of Scrappy Bosmer goes on and on and on. Cue ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', That changed significantly in ''Skyrim'', where the entire race [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]] and become a WoobieSpecies due to their genocidal racist [[FantasticRacism genocidally racist]] Altmer cousins occupying Valenwood, their homeland (Valenwood), and Bosmer go from being hands-down the least popular race to one of the fandom's favourites.
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*** A character example in the series would be Master Neloth. In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', he is a hugely ungrateful {{Jerkass}} whose Disposition is very difficult to raise and, if you complete his quest in the House Telvanni storyline, he rewards you with [[DudeWheresMyReward a paltry 10 gold]]. ''Skyrim''[='s=] ''Dragonborn'' DLC rectifies this by, ironically enough, making him an even ''bigger'' Jerkass with a dash of MadScientist and BlackComedy, as well as actually rewarding the Dragonborn properly on his quests this time and helping them during the DLC's main storyline. His popularity since then has shot to the level of characters like ''[[MadGod Sheogorath]]''.
** In While ''Skyrim'' did an admirable job at rescuing series' Scrappys, it also made the Altmer (High Elves) into one. Between the events of ''Oblivion'' and ''Skyrim'', under the Thalmor made ScrewYouElves practically a rallying cry for fascistic and genocidally racist leadership of the entire fandom. ''Everyone'' hated them, [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]], the Altmer broke away from the Cyrodiilic Empire and re-formed the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] of old. As mentioned, they forcefully annexed Valenwood and got the Khajiit of Elsweyr to join as vassals using some BlatantLies. They launched the [[GreatOffscreenWar Great War]] with the [[VestigialEmpire vestigial]] Empire and, though the Empire fended them off, were able to secure a peace treaty (the White-Gold Concordat) with exceptionally favorable terms to the Dominion. Throughout ''Skyrim'', ''everyone'' comes to hate the Thalmor, [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch even Altmer players]]. In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', players]], with "ScrewYouElves" practically becoming a rallying cry for the fandom. The developers, perhaps realizing that players were associating ''[[AllGermansAreNAzis all]]'' Altmer with the Thalmor, acted quickly to rescue them in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline''. The Altmer win back a great deal of their respect from many fans by credit of the sheer lengths they go to win the trust of their allies (including one quest where they pull a race-wide BigDamnHeroes on a besieged city) and counting a good number of likable and badass [=NPC=]s on their side.
** A character example in the series would be Master Neloth. In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', he was a huge ungrateful {{Jerkass}} whose relationship score was very difficult to raise and if you did his quest in the House Telvanni storyline, he would reward you with [[DudeWheresMyRespect a paltry 10 gold]]. ''Skyrim's'' DLC ''Dragonborn'' rectified this by, ironically enough, making him an even bigger Jerkass with a dash of MadScientist and BlackComedy as well as actually rewarding the Dragonborn properly on his quests this time and helping them during the DLC's main storyline. His popularity since then has shot to the level of characters like Sheogorath.
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22nd Feb '18 6:39:06 AM Cryoclaste
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** [[BigBad Bowser]] started to become [[TookALevelInDumbass increasingly dopey and less of a threat]] with TheSixthGenerationOfConsoleVideoGames, especially with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', to the point where fans wanted him to be out of the series entirely. However, when games like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' were released, he became much more menacing thanks to his new voice actor and schemed to take over the universe [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 twice]]. Although [=RPGs=] portray him like a ButtMonkey like they used to, others like ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' provided a balance of goofiness and strength, as well as fleshing out his character more. ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'' took this even futher as [[spoiler:Bowser usurps the new antagonist to become the final boss]].

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** [[BigBad Bowser]] started to become [[TookALevelInDumbass increasingly dopey and less of a threat]] with TheSixthGenerationOfConsoleVideoGames, UsefulNotes/TheSixthGenerationOfConsoleVideoGames, especially with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', to the point where fans wanted him to be out of the series entirely. However, when games like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' were released, he became much more menacing thanks to his new voice actor and schemed to take over the universe [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 twice]]. Although [=RPGs=] portray him like a ButtMonkey like they used to, others like ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' provided a balance of goofiness and strength, as well as fleshing out his character more. ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'' took this even futher as [[spoiler:Bowser usurps the new antagonist to become the final boss]].
14th Dec '17 6:21:19 AM GlitteringFlowers
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*** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].

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*** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs (plus there are two bows and a yumi that ''can'' attack at range 1) and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].
3rd Dec '17 12:18:15 PM Valiona
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** The knife, while still generally weak, is quite effective in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', especially since it does multiple hits per slash as mentioned above. It's good for saving ammunition, as that is somewhat scarce in the early game, and a downward hit can inflict major damage on a zombie. [[ThatOneLevel It doesn't make Wesker's Battle Game any easier, though.]]

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** The knife, while still generally weak, is quite effective in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', especially since it does multiple hits per slash as mentioned above. It's good for saving ammunition, as that is somewhat scarce in the early game, and a downward hit can inflict major damage on a zombie. [[ThatOneLevel It doesn't make Wesker's Battle Game any easier, though.]]]][[note]]The knife is Wesker's only weapon until he gets the magnum from the slot machine, but he has to save that for the boss[[/note]]



** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
** Korekiyo Shinguuji is a notable inversion. Before VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 was released, fans took interest in him thanks to his unique talent, his CreepyAwesome design and his interesting personality. However, after the game came out and it was revealed that [[spoiler: he was sexually attracted to his deceased sister, going so far as to kill Angie and Tenko just to resume said relationship with her in the afterlife]], Korekiyo quickly became one of the most - if not ''the'' most - reviled characters in not just this entry, but the entire franchise as a whole.

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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] divisive]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
** Korekiyo Shinguuji is a notable inversion. Before VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 was released, fans took interest in him thanks to his unique talent, his CreepyAwesome design and his interesting personality. However, after the game came out and it was revealed that [[spoiler: he was sexually attracted to his deceased sister, going so far as to kill Angie and Tenko just to give her friends and resume said relationship with her in the afterlife]], Korekiyo quickly became one of the most - if not ''the'' most - reviled characters in not just this entry, but the entire franchise as a whole.
3rd Dec '17 11:42:37 AM Valiona
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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game so his haters might as well be a VocalMinority at this point. ]]

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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game so his haters might as well be a VocalMinority at this point.game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
23rd Oct '17 5:16:59 PM infernape612
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* Beowulf from ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' was once known as a universally hated character for lying and cheating on Lachesis, people think he's a big liar and philanderer. But suddenly, it's revealed that Lachesis was still in love with her brother Eltoshan and got together with Finn in Thracia 776. Thus, fan reaction towards him has softened ever since (those who are pissed with him are probably going on his mediocre stats, and his 'stupid grin'). In turn, however, fans started ragging on Lachesis as "one slutty princess". Still, she has yet to be completely pushed to the Scrappy Heap thanks to her sympathetic CharacterDevelopment and GameBreaker status.
* Serra from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', who was thought of as nothing more than an [[WellExcuseMePrincess annoying]] RichBitch has also become rescued, specially once people actually ''bothered'' to get her A supports where not only she's showcased in a much more sympathetic light, but we get to learn about her DarkAndTroubledPast.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-received.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
** Charlotte. Pre-release marketing painted her as a CuteAndPsycho BitchInSheepsClothing who dressed in extremely {{Stripperiffic}} clothing to [[GoldDigger seduce rich men]], with seemingly few redeeming qualities. Once people got their hands on the actual game, however, it turned out Charlotte was quite different than anyone expected. Firstly, she's only a GoldDigger to support her poor family, and she's not actually a BitchInSheepsClothing: she just puts on a "cute damsel" act in frount of men because she [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon feels no-one will accept her for her real personality]] (which is more like TheLadette), and her romantic supports with rich guys all fall into NotWithThemForTheMoney by the end. She's also a total beast stat-wise and gives ''amazing'' pair-up bonuses to whoever she supports with. She ended up being one of the most well-liked characters in the game.
** Niles, the {{Sadist}} PsychoForHire thief, became incredibly contentious once it was revealed he was the game's sole GayOption for male player characters. Similar to Charlotte, he was found to have HiddenDepths beyond his questionable qualities once the game was released, and his same-sex RelationshipUpgrade support with the Male Avatar was found to be genuinely heartwarming, to the point where the GayOption with him became one of the biggest [[FanPreferredCouple Fan Preferred Couples]] for the Male Avatar.
** The General class was previously seen as a MightyGlacier without enough Mighty, which would always be double attacked and chopped into little pieces before it could get in a word edgewise. ''Fates'' gave it the Wary Fighter skill, which prevents all double attacks and makes it much harder to kill.
** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].

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* In the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' franchise:
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Beowulf from ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'' was once known as a universally hated character for lying and cheating on Lachesis, people think he's a big liar and philanderer. But suddenly, it's revealed that Lachesis was still in love with her brother Eltoshan and got together with Finn in Thracia 776. Thus, fan reaction towards him has softened ever since (those who are pissed with him are probably going on his mediocre stats, and his 'stupid grin'). In turn, however, fans started ragging on Lachesis as "one slutty princess". Still, she has yet to be completely pushed to the Scrappy Heap thanks to her sympathetic CharacterDevelopment and GameBreaker status.
* ** Serra from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', who was thought of as nothing more than an [[WellExcuseMePrincess annoying]] RichBitch has also become rescued, specially once people actually ''bothered'' to get her A supports where not only she's showcased in a much more sympathetic light, but we get to learn about her DarkAndTroubledPast.
* ** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** *** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-received.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
** *** Charlotte. Pre-release marketing painted her as a CuteAndPsycho BitchInSheepsClothing who dressed in extremely {{Stripperiffic}} clothing to [[GoldDigger seduce rich men]], with seemingly few redeeming qualities. Once people got their hands on the actual game, however, it turned out Charlotte was quite different than anyone expected. Firstly, she's only a GoldDigger to support her poor family, and she's not actually a BitchInSheepsClothing: she just puts on a "cute damsel" act in frount of men because she [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon feels no-one will accept her for her real personality]] (which is more like TheLadette), and her romantic supports with rich guys all fall into NotWithThemForTheMoney by the end. She's also a total beast stat-wise and gives ''amazing'' pair-up bonuses to whoever she supports with. She ended up being one of the most well-liked characters in the game.
** *** Niles, the {{Sadist}} PsychoForHire thief, became incredibly contentious once it was revealed he was the game's sole GayOption for male player characters. Similar to Charlotte, he was found to have HiddenDepths beyond his questionable qualities once the game was released, and his same-sex RelationshipUpgrade support with the Male Avatar was found to be genuinely heartwarming, to the point where the GayOption with him became one of the biggest [[FanPreferredCouple Fan Preferred Couples]] for the Male Avatar.
** *** The General class was previously seen as a MightyGlacier without enough Mighty, which would always be double attacked and chopped into little pieces before it could get in a word edgewise. ''Fates'' gave it the Wary Fighter skill, which prevents all double attacks and makes it much harder to kill.
** *** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].



** Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptyr from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''Shadows of Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gaving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.]]

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** Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptyr from ''Genealogy Of The of the Holy War''. ''Shadows of Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gaving giving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got developed a mind of it's its own.]]
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