History RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap / VideoGames

14th Dec '17 6:21:19 AM GlitteringFlowers
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*** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].

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*** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs (plus there are two bows and a yumi that ''can'' attack at range 1) and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].
3rd Dec '17 12:18:15 PM Valiona
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** The knife, while still generally weak, is quite effective in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', especially since it does multiple hits per slash as mentioned above. It's good for saving ammunition, as that is somewhat scarce in the early game, and a downward hit can inflict major damage on a zombie. [[ThatOneLevel It doesn't make Wesker's Battle Game any easier, though.]]

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** The knife, while still generally weak, is quite effective in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'', especially since it does multiple hits per slash as mentioned above. It's good for saving ammunition, as that is somewhat scarce in the early game, and a downward hit can inflict major damage on a zombie. [[ThatOneLevel It doesn't make Wesker's Battle Game any easier, though.]]]][[note]]The knife is Wesker's only weapon until he gets the magnum from the slot machine, but he has to save that for the boss[[/note]]



** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
** Korekiyo Shinguuji is a notable inversion. Before VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 was released, fans took interest in him thanks to his unique talent, his CreepyAwesome design and his interesting personality. However, after the game came out and it was revealed that [[spoiler: he was sexually attracted to his deceased sister, going so far as to kill Angie and Tenko just to resume said relationship with her in the afterlife]], Korekiyo quickly became one of the most - if not ''the'' most - reviled characters in not just this entry, but the entire franchise as a whole.

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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] divisive]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
** Korekiyo Shinguuji is a notable inversion. Before VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 was released, fans took interest in him thanks to his unique talent, his CreepyAwesome design and his interesting personality. However, after the game came out and it was revealed that [[spoiler: he was sexually attracted to his deceased sister, going so far as to kill Angie and Tenko just to give her friends and resume said relationship with her in the afterlife]], Korekiyo quickly became one of the most - if not ''the'' most - reviled characters in not just this entry, but the entire franchise as a whole.
3rd Dec '17 11:42:37 AM Valiona
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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game so his haters might as well be a VocalMinority at this point. ]]

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** Shuichi became [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisibe]] the second where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he ended replacing Kaede as the main protagonist. While he is still divisive due to how big of an EnsembleDarkhorse Kaede is, and how some people don't think he measures up to her or the other protagonists, some fans ended up liking him for his character arc and how he is ''not'' the driving force to the motivating everyone in the ending as he needed to be brought back from the DespairEventHorizon from his friends thus proving that he was not a rehash of the other past protagonists. [[http://news.mynavi.jp/ad/2017/entertainment/danganronpa/sp_r/ The official character poll for the game]] even has him as the most popular character in that game so his haters might as well be a VocalMinority at this point.game, proving that while he still has detractors, he also has many fans. ]]
23rd Oct '17 5:16:59 PM infernape612
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* Beowulf from ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' was once known as a universally hated character for lying and cheating on Lachesis, people think he's a big liar and philanderer. But suddenly, it's revealed that Lachesis was still in love with her brother Eltoshan and got together with Finn in Thracia 776. Thus, fan reaction towards him has softened ever since (those who are pissed with him are probably going on his mediocre stats, and his 'stupid grin'). In turn, however, fans started ragging on Lachesis as "one slutty princess". Still, she has yet to be completely pushed to the Scrappy Heap thanks to her sympathetic CharacterDevelopment and GameBreaker status.
* Serra from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', who was thought of as nothing more than an [[WellExcuseMePrincess annoying]] RichBitch has also become rescued, specially once people actually ''bothered'' to get her A supports where not only she's showcased in a much more sympathetic light, but we get to learn about her DarkAndTroubledPast.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-received.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
** Charlotte. Pre-release marketing painted her as a CuteAndPsycho BitchInSheepsClothing who dressed in extremely {{Stripperiffic}} clothing to [[GoldDigger seduce rich men]], with seemingly few redeeming qualities. Once people got their hands on the actual game, however, it turned out Charlotte was quite different than anyone expected. Firstly, she's only a GoldDigger to support her poor family, and she's not actually a BitchInSheepsClothing: she just puts on a "cute damsel" act in frount of men because she [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon feels no-one will accept her for her real personality]] (which is more like TheLadette), and her romantic supports with rich guys all fall into NotWithThemForTheMoney by the end. She's also a total beast stat-wise and gives ''amazing'' pair-up bonuses to whoever she supports with. She ended up being one of the most well-liked characters in the game.
** Niles, the {{Sadist}} PsychoForHire thief, became incredibly contentious once it was revealed he was the game's sole GayOption for male player characters. Similar to Charlotte, he was found to have HiddenDepths beyond his questionable qualities once the game was released, and his same-sex RelationshipUpgrade support with the Male Avatar was found to be genuinely heartwarming, to the point where the GayOption with him became one of the biggest [[FanPreferredCouple Fan Preferred Couples]] for the Male Avatar.
** The General class was previously seen as a MightyGlacier without enough Mighty, which would always be double attacked and chopped into little pieces before it could get in a word edgewise. ''Fates'' gave it the Wary Fighter skill, which prevents all double attacks and makes it much harder to kill.
** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].

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* In the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' franchise:
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Beowulf from ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'' was once known as a universally hated character for lying and cheating on Lachesis, people think he's a big liar and philanderer. But suddenly, it's revealed that Lachesis was still in love with her brother Eltoshan and got together with Finn in Thracia 776. Thus, fan reaction towards him has softened ever since (those who are pissed with him are probably going on his mediocre stats, and his 'stupid grin'). In turn, however, fans started ragging on Lachesis as "one slutty princess". Still, she has yet to be completely pushed to the Scrappy Heap thanks to her sympathetic CharacterDevelopment and GameBreaker status.
* ** Serra from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', who was thought of as nothing more than an [[WellExcuseMePrincess annoying]] RichBitch has also become rescued, specially once people actually ''bothered'' to get her A supports where not only she's showcased in a much more sympathetic light, but we get to learn about her DarkAndTroubledPast.
* ** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** *** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-received.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
** *** Charlotte. Pre-release marketing painted her as a CuteAndPsycho BitchInSheepsClothing who dressed in extremely {{Stripperiffic}} clothing to [[GoldDigger seduce rich men]], with seemingly few redeeming qualities. Once people got their hands on the actual game, however, it turned out Charlotte was quite different than anyone expected. Firstly, she's only a GoldDigger to support her poor family, and she's not actually a BitchInSheepsClothing: she just puts on a "cute damsel" act in frount of men because she [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon feels no-one will accept her for her real personality]] (which is more like TheLadette), and her romantic supports with rich guys all fall into NotWithThemForTheMoney by the end. She's also a total beast stat-wise and gives ''amazing'' pair-up bonuses to whoever she supports with. She ended up being one of the most well-liked characters in the game.
** *** Niles, the {{Sadist}} PsychoForHire thief, became incredibly contentious once it was revealed he was the game's sole GayOption for male player characters. Similar to Charlotte, he was found to have HiddenDepths beyond his questionable qualities once the game was released, and his same-sex RelationshipUpgrade support with the Male Avatar was found to be genuinely heartwarming, to the point where the GayOption with him became one of the biggest [[FanPreferredCouple Fan Preferred Couples]] for the Male Avatar.
** *** The General class was previously seen as a MightyGlacier without enough Mighty, which would always be double attacked and chopped into little pieces before it could get in a word edgewise. ''Fates'' gave it the Wary Fighter skill, which prevents all double attacks and makes it much harder to kill.
** *** The Archer and Sniper classes were often mocked for their locked 2 range and terrible time on the Enemy Phase, where most of the game's combat takes place, and most Sniper bosses were considered ridiculously easy. In this game, bows and yumi were given massive damage buffs and a DLC skill was introduced that gives them 1-2 range at all times. Takumi in particular straddles the line between DiscOneNuke and GameBreaker as a playable character in ''Birthright'' and ''Revelation'', and is considered to be ThatOneBoss as an enemy in ''Conquest'' [[spoiler:to the point where he is actually the route's incredibly challenging FinalBoss]].



** Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptyr from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''Shadows of Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gaving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.]]

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** Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptyr from ''Genealogy Of The of the Holy War''. ''Shadows of Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gaving giving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got developed a mind of it's its own.]]
13th Sep '17 4:24:00 AM mario0987
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* Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptor from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows of Valentia]]'' [[spoiler: made him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gave him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.]]

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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'':
** Several members of the original cast were disliked for having terrible growth rates and / or poor characterisation. The remake upgrades several growth rates and increases the plot importance of several characters as well such as making Gray and Tobin ThoseTwoGuys.
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Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptor Loptyr from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows ''Shadows of Valentia]]'' Valentia'' solved that problem by [[spoiler: made making him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gave gaving him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.]]
11th Sep '17 9:49:50 AM mario0987
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* Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptor from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows of Valentia]]'' [[spoiler: made him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gave him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.

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* Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptor from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows of Valentia]]'' [[spoiler: made him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gave him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.]]
11th Sep '17 9:49:11 AM mario0987
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* Grima, the GreaterScopeVillain of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', was hated for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain who is also an Expy of Loptor from ''Genealogy Of The Holy War''. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows of Valentia]]'' [[spoiler: made him the BonusBoss of the new optional postgame dungeon and gave him a backstory as an artificial creation of a MadScientist that got a mind of it's own.
8th Sep '17 9:04:33 PM MyFinalEdits
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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreakingCharacter in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]]. His recent appearance in the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0 Parental Controls video]] didn't hurt as the interactions he had with Bowser (as well as the big Koopa himself showing on how good of a father he is) helps make the video adorable to watch, [[HeartwarmingMoments especially at the end when both of them are playing on the console together.]] It also helps that the video spawned a [[MemeticMutation certain meme]] where Bowser runs up to shield Junior's eyes from... [[NoodleIncident something that the innocent little turtle isn't old enough to experience.]]

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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreakingCharacter in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]]. His recent appearance in the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0 Parental Controls video]] didn't hurt as the interactions he had with Bowser (as well as the big Koopa himself showing on how good of a father he is) helps make the video adorable to watch, [[HeartwarmingMoments [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments especially at the end when both of them are playing on the console together.]] It also helps that the video spawned a [[MemeticMutation certain meme]] where Bowser runs up to shield Junior's eyes from... [[NoodleIncident something that the innocent little turtle isn't old enough to experience.]]
8th Sep '17 3:48:15 PM GBAuraRebirth
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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreakingCharacter in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]].

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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreakingCharacter in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]]. His recent appearance in the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0 Parental Controls video]] didn't hurt as the interactions he had with Bowser (as well as the big Koopa himself showing on how good of a father he is) helps make the video adorable to watch, [[HeartwarmingMoments especially at the end when both of them are playing on the console together.]] It also helps that the video spawned a [[MemeticMutation certain meme]] where Bowser runs up to shield Junior's eyes from... [[NoodleIncident something that the innocent little turtle isn't old enough to experience.]]
26th Aug '17 12:00:56 AM JapaneseTeeth
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* ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': The Stingray was widely considered a ScrappyWeapon due to being by far the least useful special due to its lack of power and slow movement speed. Then people began to realize that while it's not very well suited for multiplayer, it's extremely useful in [[MultiMookMelee Salmon Run]] for several reasons:
** Most salmonids move slowly enough that the Stingray can blow right through them if they're caught in a bottleneck.
** It can pierce the armor of nearly every Boss Salmonid. Most notably, it's the only weapon that directly damage [[DemonicSpiders Flyfish]].
** In Mothership levels, using it on the Mothership will destroy all of the Chinooks that spawn from it, basically causing a rain of Golden Eggs.
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