History RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap / VideoGames

18th Aug '16 3:22:33 PM PrincessGwen
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** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-recieved.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.

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** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-recieved.well-received.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
11th Aug '16 8:56:39 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', this eventually happened to the infamously annoying [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor 343 Guilty Spark]] thanks to the ''Franchise/HaloCombatEvolved: Anniversary'' terminals and ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' novels.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', this eventually happened to the infamously annoying [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor 343 Guilty Spark]] thanks to the ''Franchise/HaloCombatEvolved: ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved: Anniversary'' terminals and ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' novels.
9th Aug '16 11:09:41 PM Anddrix
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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreaker in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]].

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** Bowser Jr. was the BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter in the series for replacing the Koopalings after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' (except for ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') and when Miyamoto revealed that he is Bowser's real son. However, some started to warm up to him after Junior ''and'' the Koopalings came together in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'', meaning that there's room for the whole darn QuirkyMinibossSquad after all. So much room, in fact, that in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U and 3DS'' the Koopalings are offered as variants of Bowser Jr. Their character trailer also helped; though their presence was already known by the time it was released, it made up for it in execution, where it made them look [[NightmareFuel legitimately threatening]].



** Outside of Japan, Sora's a BaseBreaker, though still quite popular, but ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance'' has put him on the right path with CharacterDevelopment, while reviews and trailers for [[{{VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII}} the next game]] imply that his child-like behavior will be toned down. It makes sense for this, [[spoiler: [[{{CorruptTheCutie}} considering what almost happened]] to [[{{TheWoobie}} him]] in [=KH3D=].]]

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** Outside of Japan, Sora's a BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, though still quite popular, but ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance'' has put him on the right path with CharacterDevelopment, while reviews and trailers for [[{{VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII}} the next game]] imply that his child-like behavior will be toned down. It makes sense for this, [[spoiler: [[{{CorruptTheCutie}} considering what almost happened]] to [[{{TheWoobie}} him]] in [=KH3D=].]]



** In spite of its other flaws, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' managed to make [[BaseBreaker Shadow the Hedgehog]] more bearable for some of his previous haters. Since [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog the previous game]] saw him reach the end of his QuestForIdentity and resolve to put the past behind him, this game saw Shadow greatly cut down on the angsting and replace it with stoic badassery.

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** In spite of its other flaws, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' managed to make [[BaseBreaker Shadow the Hedgehog]] Hedgehog more bearable for some of his previous haters. Since [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog the previous game]] saw him reach the end of his QuestForIdentity and resolve to put the past behind him, this game saw Shadow greatly cut down on the angsting and replace it with stoic badassery.



** Franziska von Karma was quite the BaseBreaker when she came out in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Justice for All]]'', with some liking her character, and some not. In the third game, and again in ''VisualNovel/{{Ace Attorney Investigations|MilesEdgeworth}}'', she's much better received, having mellowed out quite a bit from AmoralAttorney to more of a Type A Tsundere, dropping her FullNameBasis around Edgeworth unless she's very upset.

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** Franziska von Karma was quite the BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter when she came out in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Justice for All]]'', with some liking her character, and some not. In the third game, and again in ''VisualNovel/{{Ace Attorney Investigations|MilesEdgeworth}}'', she's much better received, having mellowed out quite a bit from AmoralAttorney to more of a Type A Tsundere, dropping her FullNameBasis around Edgeworth unless she's very upset.



* Basically, every game that involves ''{{VideoGame/Persona 3}}'' slowly does this to Ken Amada, to the point where currently, he's more of a normal BaseBreaker since some people will never let [[WhamEpisode October 4th]] down. The Answer of ''FES'' shows how Ken got his Persona after his mother's death was ignored by the police. ''Portable'' adds him in as a social link, somewhat alleviating his OutOfFocus nature in the base game. ''Persona 4 Arena Ultimax'' shows Ken moving on with his life and allowing himself to be a normal kid, though he still jumps into battle if his friends are in danger. ''Persona Q'' has him get along well with Kanji and [[spoiler: and reconsider revenge against Shinjiro, even though it's a moot point thanks to his memories being erased]] and is a decent support character when he used to be a TierInducedScrappy. And finally the [[Anime/Persona3TheMovie film adaptation]] allows Ken to be friends with Shinjiro before finding out [[spoiler: he is the reason his mother died]] and therefore make the entire situation seem more tragic, as opposed to being seen as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.

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* Basically, every game that involves ''{{VideoGame/Persona 3}}'' slowly does this to Ken Amada, to the point where currently, he's more of a normal BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter since some people will never let [[WhamEpisode October 4th]] down. The Answer of ''FES'' shows how Ken got his Persona after his mother's death was ignored by the police. ''Portable'' adds him in as a social link, somewhat alleviating his OutOfFocus nature in the base game. ''Persona 4 Arena Ultimax'' shows Ken moving on with his life and allowing himself to be a normal kid, though he still jumps into battle if his friends are in danger. ''Persona Q'' has him get along well with Kanji and [[spoiler: and reconsider revenge against Shinjiro, even though it's a moot point thanks to his memories being erased]] and is a decent support character when he used to be a TierInducedScrappy. And finally the [[Anime/Persona3TheMovie film adaptation]] allows Ken to be friends with Shinjiro before finding out [[spoiler: he is the reason his mother died]] and therefore make the entire situation seem more tragic, as opposed to being seen as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.
6th Aug '16 1:01:03 PM 313Bluestreak
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* ''Franchise/Sonic|TheHedgehog'':

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* ''Franchise/Sonic|TheHedgehog'':''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'':
5th Aug '16 10:10:12 AM longWriter
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** Used within ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages]]'' by Ralph, who starts as a rival NPC more interested in [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl saving the girl]] than in the [[GrandTheftMe body-snatching]] evil witch trying to wreak havoc via TimeTravel, and is [[StopHelpingMe completely dismissive of and insulting to Link]]. By the end credits, he's [[CharacterDevelopment learned that he needs to protect his country]], become a [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Royal Who Actually Does Something]] ([[CurbStompBattle or at least tries]]), and is taking swordsmanship lessons from Link.

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** Used within ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages]]'' by Ralph, who starts as a rival NPC more interested in [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl saving the girl]] than in the [[GrandTheftMe body-snatching]] evil witch trying to wreak havoc via TimeTravel, and is [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper completely dismissive of and insulting to Link]]. By the end credits, he's [[CharacterDevelopment learned that he needs to protect his country]], become a [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Royal Who Actually Does Something]] ([[CurbStompBattle or at least tries]]), and is taking swordsmanship lessons from Link.



*** Fi. In ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' she was nigh-universally reviled by the fanbase due to her [[EmotionlessGirl bland, robotic personality]] as well as being a CaptainObvious with excessive amounts of StopHelpingMe moments. The game removed those aspects of her character and fleshed her out by giving some NotSoStoic moments, thus she has been much more well received. It also helps that her playstyle makes her great at fighting groups of enemies.

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*** Fi. In ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' she was nigh-universally reviled by the fanbase due to her [[EmotionlessGirl bland, robotic personality]] as well as being a CaptainObvious with excessive amounts of StopHelpingMe AnnoyingVideoGameHelper moments. The game removed those aspects of her character and fleshed her out by giving some NotSoStoic moments, thus she has been much more well received. It also helps that her playstyle makes her great at fighting groups of enemies.
29th Jul '16 12:58:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat3 Kurtis Stryker]], ''the'' original Scrappy in the [[Franchise/MortalKombat MKverse]], got a new design in ''[[VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon Armageddon]]'', which was well-received. But the real rescuing for him came with ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'', where he gets a GenreSavvy personality, an even cooler outfit, and an overall better design.

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** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat3 Kurtis Stryker]], ''the'' original Scrappy in the [[Franchise/MortalKombat MKverse]], got a new design in ''[[VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon Armageddon]]'', which was well-received. But the real rescuing for him came with ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'', where he gets a GenreSavvy savvy personality, an even cooler outfit, and an overall better design.



** For what the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spin-off is worth, the devs did everything in their power to fix Amy Rose as thoroughly as possible. Not only was her choice of attire far less prone to {{Panty Shot}}s and more befitting someone in the thick of the action, and not only did Creator/CindyRobinson get the freedom to voice Amy more appropriately (and ditch the Minnie Mouse-esque voice to boot), but Amy's personality was completely retooled; her crush on Sonic was strongly dialed down (though some of her actions and ''Translate This'' show it's not gone completely), her TeamMom and GenkiGirl traits were brought out to the fore, and she was made more prone to taking matters into her own hands and allowed to join in the DeadpanSnarker and GenreSavvy fun normally reserved for Sonic himself. She was much better received as a result, with even some haters of her Modern version welcoming the Boom version, and the fans hope the changes to her character carry back over to the Modern series.

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** For what the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spin-off is worth, the devs did everything in their power to fix Amy Rose as thoroughly as possible. Not only was her choice of attire far less prone to {{Panty Shot}}s and more befitting someone in the thick of the action, and not only did Creator/CindyRobinson get the freedom to voice Amy more appropriately (and ditch the Minnie Mouse-esque voice to boot), but Amy's personality was completely retooled; her crush on Sonic was strongly dialed down (though some of her actions and ''Translate This'' show it's not gone completely), her TeamMom and GenkiGirl traits were brought out to the fore, and she was made more prone to taking matters into her own hands and allowed to join in the DeadpanSnarker and GenreSavvy fun normally reserved for Sonic himself. She was much better received as a result, with even some haters of her Modern version welcoming the Boom version, and the fans hope the changes to her character carry back over to the Modern series.



* After many years of being TheUnfavorite, ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' fandom finally seems to be warming up to [[TheBrute Agatio]] and his DangerouslyGenreSavvy attitude, and respecting him as his own character instead of unjustly blasting him for being a [[ReplacementScrappy shitty Saturos replacement]]. Part of this may be the influence of ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' making fans go back to the first few games and actually pay attention to the dialogue this time around.

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* After many years of being TheUnfavorite, ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' fandom finally seems to be warming up to [[TheBrute Agatio]] and his DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy attitude, and respecting him as his own character instead of unjustly blasting him for being a [[ReplacementScrappy shitty Saturos replacement]]. Part of this may be the influence of ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' making fans go back to the first few games and actually pay attention to the dialogue this time around.
27th Jul '16 10:04:45 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Zant to an extent. While he was a popular character in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', the main criticism from fans was that the reveal of his PsychopathicManchild nature [[ShockingSwerve came completely out of nowhere]] and [[BadassDecay undermined his previous badassery]]. Like with Fi, this game fleshes him out by having said traits apparent from the start, but shown mostly through his ConfusionFu moveset while in the game proper, he's portrayed as a slightly eccentric, but DangerouslyGenreSavvy villain. Thus, he is far less polarizing. It helps that like Fi, his moveset makes him great at fighting large groups of enemies. Especially after a much needed update.

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*** Zant to an extent. While he was a popular character in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', the main criticism from fans was that the reveal of his PsychopathicManchild nature [[ShockingSwerve came completely out of nowhere]] and [[BadassDecay undermined his previous badassery]]. Like with Fi, this game fleshes him out by having said traits apparent from the start, but shown mostly through his ConfusionFu moveset while in the game proper, he's portrayed as a slightly eccentric, but DangerouslyGenreSavvy threatening villain. Thus, he is far less polarizing. It helps that like Fi, his moveset makes him great at fighting large groups of enemies. Especially after a much needed update.
13th Jul '16 10:37:55 PM BigKlingy
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** Odin, Selena and Laslow were originally hated for being blatantly obvious [[{{Expy}} Expies]] of Owain, Severa and Inigo from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' (due to those three being [[PopularityPower voted the most popular child characters in Japan]]). Then the game came out and it turned out that [[spoiler: they literally ''are'' Owain, Severa and Inigo and not just carbon-copies of them, and their CharacterDevelopment and OlderAndWiser nature since ''Awakening'' has been very well-recieved.]] They're now some of the more popular characters in the game.
22nd Jun '16 1:59:38 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* In the first two ''VideoGame/TetrisTheGrandMaster'' games, the I piece, the sole piece that can make Tetrises, is regarded as one of the ''worst'' pieces to deal with at maximum gravity, as it requires specific conditions for an I piece on its long sides to rotate. ''Tetris: The Grand Master 3 -- Terror-Instinct'' fixes this by [[AntiFrustrationFeatures allowing a horizontally-laid I to "floor kick" off of the stack or the floor]], but only once per piece.

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* In the first two ''VideoGame/TetrisTheGrandMaster'' games, the I piece, the sole piece that can make Tetrises, is regarded as one of the ''worst'' pieces to deal with at maximum gravity, as it requires [[https://tetris.wiki/TGM_Guide#Uses_and_misuses_of_the_I_piece.2C_parti_I:_rotations specific conditions conditions]] for an I piece on its long sides to rotate. ''Tetris: The Grand Master 3 -- Terror-Instinct'' fixes this by [[AntiFrustrationFeatures allowing a horizontally-laid I to "floor kick" off of the stack or the floor]], but only once per piece.
22nd Jun '16 1:57:13 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* In the first two ''VideoGame/TetrisTheGrandMaster'' games, the I piece, the sole piece that can make Tetrises, is regarded as one of the ''worst'' pieces to deal with at maximum gravity, as it requires specific conditions for an I piece on its long sides to rotate. ''Tetris: The Grand Master 3 -- Terror-Instinct'' fixes this by allowing a horizontally-laid I to "floor kick" off of the stack or the floor, but only once per piece.

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* In the first two ''VideoGame/TetrisTheGrandMaster'' games, the I piece, the sole piece that can make Tetrises, is regarded as one of the ''worst'' pieces to deal with at maximum gravity, as it requires specific conditions for an I piece on its long sides to rotate. ''Tetris: The Grand Master 3 -- Terror-Instinct'' fixes this by [[AntiFrustrationFeatures allowing a horizontally-laid I to "floor kick" off of the stack or the floor, floor]], but only once per piece.
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