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* ''ComicBook/RadiantBlack'':
** The comic originally starred Nathan Burnett, a failed writer who moved back to his hometown and accidentally gained superpowers. The series approached superheroes in a more down to earth way, and focused on Nathan learning to overcome his past failures and getting a new lease on life, while his superheroics were more low-key and he was more mild-mannered in general than most superheroes. Cut to the end of the first arc, and Nathan is sent into a coma, and his powers pass onto his best friend, Marshall. In contrast to Nathan, Marshall is an angry dude who never even tried to chase his dream, and is completely irresponsible with his powers, focusing on getting glory, cashing in on his superhero status, and revenge on the woman who sent Nathan into his coma, and he's also an InstantExpert. The fandom was '''very''' split on whether shifting the focus from Nathan to Marshall was a good decision, especially since Marshall's backstory and deeper motives took a while to be revealed, meaning readers had the anti-Nathan as their new lead character without having much reason to care about him. While dislike of Marshall eventually died down once he received more depth and Nathan woke from his coma, the comic eventually split the difference and had ''both'' operate as Radiant Black, sharing the powers.
** This also applies in-universe. The police who were willing to work with Nathan want nothing to do with Marshall, Radiant Black's popularity tanks thanks to Marshall's showboating, and Radiant Yellow even has visions of a BadFuture that specifically will only come to pass because Marshall is Radiant Black and not Nathan.
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* After the one-year TimeSkip following ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} was abruptly replaced by a new character named Arthur ''Joseph'' Curry. Arthur wasn’t exactly hated, but he never really caught on, partially due to being [[VanillaProtagonist kind of bland]] and partially because he was a brand new character who just got thrown at the audience with no explanation or buildup. After his book ''Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis'' petered out, DC quietly sidelined him and eventually had him just [[PutOnABus disappear offscreen]]. He was never spoken of again and quickly forgotten when the original Aquaman returned in ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', and eventually retconned away in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}.
* ''ComicBook/TheAtom'':
** Many people dislike Ryan Choi due to how Ray Palmer sort of just vanished into limbo. However, when Ryan Choi was ignominiously killed off, people had gotten over that he wasn't Ray Palmer, and now viewed Ray as this. After a pretty massive racial controversy that got coverage on some non-comic sites, DC retconned Ryan's death during the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' series and now he is the sole Atom in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} continuity, with Ray being relegated to a scientific adviser for the S.H.A.D.E. organization.
** An odd in-universe form of the ReplacementScrappy status of Ryan Choi came in Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' run, where Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman considered asking him to join. Superman is reluctant on the subject, saying that he doesn't want to replace Ray and would prefer to keep the position of the Justice League's Atom open in case he came back.
* This has been the curse of more or less everyone to have used the ''ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}'' identity in DC.
** Cassandra Cain, the third Batgirl was this for a small number of fans. Not only was she a replacement for the first Batgirl Barbara Gordon, but she was also [[TheRealRemingtonSteele seemingly created just to wear the costume given up by]] the short-lived (as Batgirl) second Batgirl, Helena Bertinelli (who would return to her old identity as the post-Crisis ComicBook/{{Huntress}}). Helena was intended to be temporary to begin with, but still... She was also a considerable departure from the original character, being a CuteMute CharlesAtlasSuperpower martial artist. However, she ''did'' develop a big fandom after her introduction, and even got her own solo series, and a lot of Barbara fans eventually accepted her, thanks to her relationship with Barbara, which moved Babs into an interesting role as TheMentor. Cass was ''so'' liked that this led to...
** The next Batgirl ([[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} Stephanie Brown]], formerly Spoiler) has been seen as this as well, due to her being a blonde Caucasian female who replaced one of the few Asian superheroes in all of comicdom (and the only female Asian hero to maintain a long-running solo series). Steph would eventually win over a a number fans by being a really fun character. Though her book wasn't a smash hit (it had enough sales to be in the top hundred comics being sold, but not on par with usual Bat-books), she managed to win over a very vocal fanbase that protested heavily once she was removed from the role.
** The ComicBook/{{New 52}} relaunch, where the original Batgirl [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2011}} returned to the role]], is an interesting situation. Nobody hates Barbara ''per se'', but there is a perceived insult against Steph on DC's part, plus moving Babs away from being the InformationBroker and HandicappedBadass Oracle rubs many of her fans the wrong way as stripping her of her unique qualities.
** It seemed apparent at the start of the reboot that DC's own [[ExecutiveMeddling higher-ups]] considered both Cassandra and Stephanie to be this trope, and [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome wanted nothing more to do with them]]. While both characters reappeared eventually, neither got the prominence that their fans wanted.
** InUniverse, pre-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', Barbara viewed anyone taking up the name Batgirl as this. When Helena took up the identity and Batman new, Barbara threw a fit. She kept a close eye on Cass and was wary of Steph taking up the identity. When Misfit initially tried to pass herself off as Batigirl, Barbara once again flipped. In Barbara's eyes, they're not just taking her name, they're taking her ''legs''.
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
** At the same time as the Death of Superman arc, Batman also got a ReplacementScrappy in [[AntiHeroSubstitute Azrael]], who took up the mantle after Batman's back was broken. He went over terribly with the fans, but like Superman, the writers never intended, and the readers never believed, that ComicBook/{{Azrael}} would ever be a ''permanent'' replacement.
** Averted entirely when Dick Grayson became Batman. The decision for both Bruce and Dick to act as Batman simultaneously is seen as a welcome third option. Some fans really didn't want him returning to his role of Nightwing.
** Played straight with Tim Drake becoming the new Batman Beyond, replacing Terry [=McGinnis=]. Terry is a pretty big EnsembleDarkHorse, and is synonymous with the Batman Beyond role. But ''Futures End'' ends up replacing Terry with Tim, and Tim gets to be the protagonist of the new, canon ''Batman Beyond'' ongoing. A large group of fans are not picking up the new series purely on the basis of it not starring Terry.
** Then played straight again towards the post-''ComicBook/BatmanEndgame'' Batman, James Gordon. A lot of the hate towards this Batman is because he spends a lot of time running around in PoweredArmor and ramping up the Batdickery by attempting to arrest or kick out any costumed character who wanders into Gotham. At the same time, his entire character essentially becomes "cop", and many just find him ''boring''. It says something that the most-liked scenes from his run [[SpotlightStealingSquad involve the possibility of Bruce Wayne returning to the role]].
* ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} was (and still is in some fans' minds) seen as one of these after she took over the lead female Bat Family role from the [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] incarnation of ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, who was moved out of focus. This was largely erased after she starred in a well-recieved, Eisner Award run of ''Detective Comics''.
* When DC decided to kill off underdog fan-favorite Blue Beetle (Ted Kord, himself the second character to use that name), fans were enraged. His replacement, Jaime Reyes wasn't really disliked by people, but fans hated DC's callous treatment of Kord and turning him into a laughing stock for the other heroes, which came off as CharacterShilling for Reyes.
* This happened to ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke. Even though fans had warmed up to him, many writers would treat him poorly as he wasn't Ollie. For example, he was given a disease that prevented him from holding a bow again, something that seemed to even irritate people who weren't fans of the character. With the New 52, he and a bunch of Legacy Characters that apparently weren't "iconic" enough were relegated to Earth 2. In that universe, there doesn't seem to have ever been an Arrow family of characters, and Connor is the only one, and goes by Red Arrow, Roy Harper's old name from his Justice League days. However, this version was barely used and bordered on InNameOnly status due to ''only'' having Connor's name and archery skills, and nothing else.
* The cast of ComicBook/Earth2 were hit by this twice over.
** First, there are the new versions of Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Al Pratt, and the rest of the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica characters getting revamped by being made YoungerAndHipper and getting their backstories totally rewritten in an attempt by DC to make them more cooler. Fans of the Golden Age characters and the original Society members were put off by this since they liked the characters ''because'' they were older heroes, as well as the fact that they were more or less unrecognizable to the characters they once more. Many felt these were just the [=JSA=] characters InNameOnly.
** Then, for those who were actually fans of the ''Earth-2'' cast, they got shoved aside for brand new versions of Superman and Batman, even though the book's original selling point was that it would ''not'' be focusing on Batman and Superman.
* Franchise/TheFlash has had issues with this.
** At the end of ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', Barry Allen made a HeroicSacrifice, and Wally West, then [[KidSidekick Kid Flash]], became the Flash. Wally was not well received at first, whether due to his being young, a {{Jerkass}}, or the fact that he was less powerful (he lost a lot of his speed during the Crisis and didn't get it back for years.) While Wally grew into the role and gained acceptance, Barry kept appearing in one-off stories set in the past, time travel stories and one notable "fake out" event as well as a short lived TV series keeping his fandom alive. When Barry came back after 24 years of being dead, fans were split.
*** Adding to this, when Barry came back, Wally was suddenly demoted thanks to ExecutiveMeddling and Barry was given a grimmer backstory and proceeded to engage in a number of controversial moves (culminating in rebooting the entire universe, leading to the controversial ''New 52'', which among other things, ''erased Wally and his family from existence'', along with having the extended Flash family PutOnTheBus), greatly damaging his previous innocent NiceGuy image. Furthering matters, the New 52, several animated features, and the 2014 TV series all focused on a Barry Allen who took a ''lot'' from Wally, including his role in many stories, which didn't necessarily work as well with Barry thanks to their differing core characters, with Wally himself being either erased completely or demoted and poorly used. When compared to how Barry was treated during Wally's tenure (where Barry and his memory were treated with nothing but glowing respect and idealisation, with Barry's tenure being a ''very'' important influence on Wally), the way DC tried to strip Wally completely from its history and his legacy made a ''lot'' of his fans extremely bitter.
** But when Bart Allen had his turn as Franchise/TheFlash, fans were much more in agreement about their loathing of the character due partly to the {{Wangst}}, partly due to his being [[PlotRelevantAgeUp artificially aged]] to shoehorn him into the role, but mostly because the character lost his FunPersonified sense of humor and cheerful demeanor.
** At the beginning of the ''Comicbook/New52'' Wally didn't even ''exist'', and the role of the first Kid Flash was given to the second Kid Flash Bart Allen. Later on, they brought Wally back with some ''very'' controversial changes to his character. This Wally was pretty firmly disliked by classic Wally fans for his increased Jerkass tendencies, stereotypical portrayal, changes to Wally's relationships (he isn't close to his aunt Iris anymore, comes from a broken family, and outright hates the Flash), among other things. DC later brought back the original Wally in ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' while keeping New 52 Wally around as the classic version's cousin, and this had the added benefit of classic Wally fans giving Wally West II another chance now that he wasn't supposed to be their Wally anymore. Plus, the more controversial parts of his character had been heavily reined in by then.
** Speaking of Bart, the New 52 massively overhauled his character. Scott Lobdell made sweeping changes to his character in his reviled ''Teen Titans'' run, changing the FunPersonified, light-hearted Bart Allen character into a murderous, edgy rebel from the future whose characterisation flipped on a dime (this was all under one writer no less, so it's not a case of DependingOnTheWriter). Even worse, he has ''zero'' connection to the Flashes, as his name isn't even Bart Allen (it's Bar Torr) and he doesn't even use the Speed Force. This character is ''reviled'' and ''Flash'' and ''Young Justice'' fans were just counting down the days till the ''real'' Bart Allen returned, which he did in 2018 in the "Flash War" storyline, and Bar Torr has been all but forgotten.
* Jason Rusch (ComicBook/{{Firestorm}}) for Ronnie Raymond, since Ronnie was unceremoniously killed off to make way for Rusch. The New 52 continuity not only retconned the death of Ronnie Raymond (the first Firestorm who was killed to make way for Jason) but now made it possible for both he and Jason to become Firestorm at the same time, alleviating some of the tension between the characters' respective fanbases.
* Franchise/GreenLantern. Stories featuring Hal Jordan, one of the longest-running and most respected heroes in ''Franchise/TheDCU'', just weren't selling that well, and [[ExecutiveMeddling it was decided that a fresher look at the character was needed]] rather than just switching Jordan out for backup Lanterns Guy Gardner or John Stewart. So [[DroppedABridgeOnHim a bridge was dropped on Hal Jordan]] in a way [[DyingToBeReplaced that was not only stupid]], but was [[FaceHeelTurn demeaning to the character and his long history as a hero]] (he eventually got a HeroicSacrifice a few years later). Not only that, but the entire [[TheChosenMany Green Lantern Corps]] was brought down as well. Thus his replacement, Kyle Rayner, wasn't just a ReplacementScrappy for Hal Jordan, but for the entire corps. Cut to almost 10 years later, and many GL fans come around to liking the character (mostly because of Creator/GrantMorrison's deft handling of the character), and some people liked the character from the beginning. So when fans of Hal Jordan gained control of the title and decreed that ''their'' hero would return, naturally some of them didn't take it very well. Nevertheless, Hal gained support after starring in one of the most beloved and influential GL runs ever, a run which also ended up featuring Guy, John and Kyle in a large capacity.
* ''ComicBook/HawkAndDove''
** Holly Granger (as the third person to bear the title of "Hawk") also got this reception by fans, though it didn't help matters that [[DependingOnTheWriter writers had no clue what kind of personality she had]], or bothered to flesh out a personality or backstory for her to begin with. Being retconned in as "only child" Dawn Granger's sister and an usurper of Hank Hall's Hawk powers only rubbed the salt in further for her hatedom. They rejoiced as Hank Hall was eventually brought back to life while Holly was killed off, and she appears to no longer exist at all in the New 52 continuity.
** Before Holly, there was the second duo to call themselvs Hawk and Dove. These two had very little connection to the originals or Dawn Granger, and were gotten rid of and never spoken of again.
* [[ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} Hawkgirl]] Kendra Saunders is an interesting case. Fans generally seemed to accept her and didn't mind so much that she wasn't Shiera -- they had the same soul, after all. However quite a good number of fans were pissed when Kendra was killed off in ''Blackest Night'' and Sheira was brought back in ''Brightest Day'', with Kendra's last moments essentially featuring her throwing aside what made her a unique Hawkgirl -- her independence and not particularly strong affection for Hawkman. Later, Kendra was relegated to being ''Earth-2'''s Hawkgirl, but didn't really have much of a point, and then was brought back to the main DCU in ''Dark Nights: Metal'', where she ''was'' Shiera in all-but-name and retained ''zero'' of the personality traits of the original Kendra.
* ''Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'':
** During ''ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsJLA'' run, Huntress is this InUniverse to Batman (she was brought in as a last second replacement for [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke]]). He eventually kicks her out after her continued disregard for rules leads to her almost executing a defeated villain.
** Happened to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} in JLA-Task Force. He wasn't loathed by the fans, he was loathed by his team members in canon.
** ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} himself isn't hated, his removal from the Franchise/TeenTitans' history and replacement of the ComicBook/MartianManhunter as a founding member of the League ''was'' loathed by many fans.
* In-universe, Jakeem Thunder was seen as this by a number of the original ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica members for replacing Johnny Thunder, who was now suffering from Alzheimer's. Ironically, he never really received much negative treatment from the fans since his predecessor wasn't a character most readers were likely to be familiar with in the first place.
* ''ComicBook/{{Robin}}'':
** Jason Todd as the second Robin. Originally a carbon-copy of Robin I, Dick Grayson, he was [[CosmicRetcon ret-conned]] into having a [[StreetUrchin street urchin]] origin and no longer having Dick's approval. He was also written as much angrier and prone to lashing out, including one story where it was left vague whether he ''outright murdered'' someone or not (after his resurrection, it was revealed that, yes, he murdered the person). This led to the second Robin becoming so controversial that DC had a ''call-in vote'' to see if fans wanted Jason to [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily die a gruesome death at the hands of the Joker.]] Ultimately, Jason's hatedom won and Jason Todd was [[DeadSidekick dead]] for two decades before being restored to life as the Red Hood, which rescued him from scrappydom until misuse resulted in him being thrown back into the pile.
** Damian Wayne (Robin V) for Tim Drake (ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} III). When Damian was introduced he was arrogant, cruel, obnoxious and outright homicidal: some of his very first actions were to murder a B-list villain and return to the cave proudly waving about the severed head, before trying to murder Tim (and very nearly succeeding). Bruce's response to Damian's behaviour amounts to little more than mild scolding, and many people feel Damian gets off too lightly because he's Bruce's biological son (which has its own UnfortunateImplications about adopted sons not being "real" family). Damian didn't officially take up the identity of Robin until after Bruce's "death", when Dick Grayson unceremoniously fired Tim from the role to make way for Damian. Tim would then be restricted to his own solo series as ComicBook/RedRobin (which furthered his "Batman Jr." {{Flanderization}}) and had his formerly brotherly relationship with Dick reduced to something more like co-workers, while Damian was prominently featured in multiple series with a big push on promoting him and Dick as brothers. Later on, with the ComicBook/New52 reboot, Tim only regularly appeared in the much-loathed ''Teen Titans'' ongoing where he was isolated from the rest of the Batfamily, while Damian was the co-lead in the much more well-liked ''Batman and Robin'' where he was promoted as Batman's "true" son and got away with things no other Robin could get away with (including [[https://i.redd.it/3vuuv9uxcuj51.jpg beating one person until he was braindead]] and outright killing another – and Bruce's response to the latter was to [[https://i.redd.it/0lsq716zcxj51.jpg hide the fact from Dick and Tim]] ''because it would make Damian look bad''). To sum up, many Tim Drake fans hate Damian for getting such a large push from DC at Tim's expense, up to and including Tim's place in the Batfamily – meanwhile, Jason Todd fans also hate him for the double-standard in terms of how he's treated in-universe by Bruce and Dick.
* [[ComicBook/TeenTitans The Joker's Daughter]] wasn't universally loved, but she gained a small, devoted fanbase. That said, the fans of this Duela Dent absolutely hated the new Joker's Daughter created for the New 52. Original Duela's fans saw her as a cheap, unnecessarily edgy knock off with a convoluted backstory, lacking the original Duela's humor and style, and grew to hate her more and more with every appearance she made because of how hard DC was shoehorning her into their books. What sunk this version from the beginning was that she literally had no connection to the Joker whatsoever, and was just some random, mentally unbalanced woman who found the Joker's face and started wearing it like a mask in an effort to make her "father" happy. [[WordOfGod The creator of Duela Dent]] has said ComicBook/HarleyQuinn is basically the SpiritualSuccessor to everything lovable about the original anyway. A rare case of the replacement being created completely independently, still filling their niche, and being far more popular than the original ever was.
* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:
** After the original was [[HeroicSacrifice killed]] and {{Ret Gone}}d, DC initiated a legacy implosion policy which prevented the existence of any Kryptonians besides Superman. Creator/JohnByrne then engaged in a bit of LoopholeAbuse and gave us Matrix, a Supergirl that was basically an ArtificialHuman from a PocketDimension. While thought inferior to the original, she was at least ''a'' Supergirl and existed for several years.
** Her popularity decreased and Creator/PeterDavid was allowed to completely revamp the character in his own run on Supergirl. His Supergirl was actually [[OurAngelsAreDifferent an angel]], created when the Matrix Supergirl fused with a human named Linda Danvers. His run, while making [[MythologyGag a number of references to the original Supergirl]], touched on religious and supernatural themes. It was seen by many as a departure from the original character and the Superman mythos. Peter David finished the series with ''[[ComicBook/ManyHappyReturns an arc]]'' that reintroduced the original Supergirl with the hope of turning it into a new series. Unfortunately it didn't happen and Linda was PutOnABus.
** Cir-El. Claiming to be Superman and Lois Lane's KidFromTheFuture, she was [[TheScrappy extremely unpopular]], revealed to be a fake created by the villain Comicbook/{{Brainiac}}, and was quickly [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome removed and forgotten]].
** And finally a new version of the original Supergirl, Kara Zor-El, was created to get rid of the [[ContinuitySnarl confusing origins]] of the previous Supergirls once the policy was overturned. Although her initial appearances were promising (except for people who were upset with Linda's disappearance), she garnished significant hatred for being both DarkerAndEdgier and MsFanservice for a short while. Several {{Authors Saving Throw}}s by writers Tony Bedard and Sterling Gates -- who were fans of original Supergirl -- finally softened her character and clarified her history, and she became popular again.
* Done in-universe (they were this trope to the readers as well, but here it was intentional) with the four replacement Supermen that cropped up after ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman. The first three were: [[EvilCounterpart a Cyborg that eventually turned out to be evil]]; [[NinetiesAntiHero a cold, elitist Kryptonian]]; and [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} a loud, '90s-ish punk teenager]]. [[ComicBook/{{Steel}} The fourth was a heroic, moral, upstanding guy... who really, really didn't want to replace Superman]].
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** Superman had an interesting case with the New 52. Many, ''many'' people disliked the New 52 Superman ([[FanNickname NuSupes]]) for being much angrier and jerkier than his Pre-Flashpoint counterpart, gaining a strange solar flare power that seemed to exist only to depower him every other week, along with issues with him dating Franchise/WonderWoman rather than ComicBook/LoisLane. While he gained some fans eventually, he also lost some with the ComicBook/SupermanTruth storyline, which had him return to being a Jerkass while also giving him an uglier costume and haircut. It didn't help that, by that point, the Pre-Flashpoint Superman had migrated over to the New 52 universe with his Lois Lane and their son, and said Superman was considered ''much'' more interesting. In the end, DC pulled the trigger and killed the New 52 Superman right before the ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' initiative, which led to...
** Pre-Flashpoint Superman (Super Dad) becoming a ReplacementScrappy for [=NuSupes=]! While it's ''much'' less common to find people who prefer [=NuSupes=], there are quite a few people who do feel bad for [=NuSupes=]' fans. However, in this case the Super Dad detractors are in the minority, and the overall consensus is that the Rebirth Superman line is the strongest the franchise has been in ''years''. An AuthorsSavingThrow was later attempted with the ''ComicBook/SupermanReborn'' crossover, which explained that ''both'' Supermen were merely parts of the real, whole Superman, validating both as equal parts of Superman... Except that Super Dad was the "blue" half of Superman while [=NuSupes=] was the "red", and in the original stories where Superman was split in two, the blue half is the real one... and when the two fused together, the resulting "complete" Superman is basically Super Dad, but with [=NuSupes=]' dead parents, so it seems like even ''DC's staff themselves'' prefer the pre-Flashpoint Superman. Even the dead parents would eventually be done away with and all that remained of [=NuSupes=] would be his costume being something Superman wore at one point.
* Deathstroke's team of "Titans" when ''[[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]]'' was remade into a series about Slade's mercenary team stealing the Titans name after the actual, adult Titans had disbanded following ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'' and ''ComicBook/BlackestNight''. The run immediately got off to a bad start by killing off [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ryan Choi]] in an extremely graphic and dragged out manner just to show how "dangerous" this new team was, which landed DC a number of accusations about inter-company racism; Ryan's creator Creator/GailSimone actually broke her legendary politeness to say how much she hated how he died. A few years later, DC released ''{{ComicBook/Convergence}}'' with two miniseries, ''Convergence: The Atom'' and ''Convergence: Titans'' meant to specifically address and undo the damage this run on the book did. Added to the accusations about Ryan's death were:
** The over saturation of blood and gore.
** Arsenal joining the team right off the heels of the much loathed ''Rise of Arsenal'' miniseries. Cheshire emotionally blackmails him into joining by holding Lian's death against him, and he conspires with her to kill Slade when they get the chance. Roy started appearing more and more psychotic as his drug addiction worsened, and then readers felt especially angry when he ''willingly'' accepted a vial of Bliss from Slade, with Bliss being a drug that is literally ''made from children.'' Author Fabian Nicieza had to specifically state that the Roy seen in ''{{ComicBook/Convergence}}'' was pulled before he fell as further down as he did in the sewer of Deathstroke's team.
** Osiris gradually going from being the TokenGoodTeammate to a SpoiledBrat psychopath who got so bad even his own sister was repulsed by his actions. His inclusion in the title was the only reason the book was connected to ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' (in that Osiris had to restore Black Adam and Isis after they were TakenForGranite), but said connection pretty much amounted to nothing in the series itself and the main ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' book.
** Everything about Cinder's character. A suicidal rape victim whose debut included her murdering a man by burning off his penis and setting him on fire using her vagina. [[http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2010/12/lavagina.jpg We're being serious here.]] That's not even getting into how poorly Eric Wallace portrayed Cinder's sexual abuse and his inability to actually make her sympathetic, forcing the readers to view her as tragic when she does absolutely nothing but wallow in self pity when she's not killing people.
* Speaking of the Teen Titans, the New 52 series and its team is hated by pretty much all of the Titans fans combined, even the fans of the characters. The team is hated by fans of the original Titans for specifically being the first team to call themselves the Titans, meaning the original team never existed -- indeed, only Dick Grayson and Roy Harper initially even existed in the New 52. Fans of the team that is the ''basis'' for the New 52 team hate it for the changes it made to their characters, namely making Cassie (more) of an angry asshole, the ''complete'' change to Bart Allen's character and finally going 100% in making Tim Drake a mini-Bruce Wayne in terms of his obsessiveness.
* Creator/{{Wildstorm}}:
** The replacement for The Doctor from ''ComicBook/TheAuthority''.
** This can happen for whole teams as well. After the original ''{{ComicBook/Gen 13}}'' ended with the team being [[KilledOffForReal killed with a nuclear bomb]], the book was relaunched with an all-new team created by Creator/ChrisClaremont. The combination of the heavy-handed, [[ExecutiveMeddling editor-mandated]] deaths of the old team and the FiveTokenBand nature of the replacements meant that the results were pretty unpopular. The "new" ComicBook/Gen13 was cancelled after 16 issues, ending with the original team being bought back to life. The "new" Gen 13 have never even been mentioned again.
* The second ComicBook/WonderGirl (Cassandra Sandsmark) is hated by some of the more diehard Donna Troy fans. Some even wish that she weren't a "blonde, white girl" so that [[FanDumb she would be more likely to be killed off so Donna could return to the role]]. This is especially irritating since in the 90s, Cassandra was a much more friendly, likable character than the Scrappy people see now. Further made worse for Donna's fans in the New 52 continuity, where Cassie's new connection to Wonder Woman[[note]]Cassie is Diana's niece, the daughter of Diana's half-brother Lennox[[/note]] wasn't even revealed for ''years'', and Cassie herself openly expressed disdain for the name. And like Wally West, Cassie is now the first Wonder Girl, and Donna wasn't introduced until 2015, where she is now a darker, angrier reflection of Wonder Woman, a role ''Cassie already fills''.
* Robinson's run on ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' introduced Diana's twin Jason, the problems being that this cements the controversial change to Diana's backstory where Zeus is now her father and the source of all her powers ''and'' that Diana already had a twin, the underused [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1942 fan favorite Nubia]] who seems to have been jettisoned from continuity to make place for Jason. It doesn't help that at her core Diana had always been intended to show what the pinnacle of what women could be if not for being oppressed and influenced by men and now her backstory and abilities are tied to two fan disliked male characters. Jason is also accused of being part of a SpotlightStealingSquad with Grail and Darkseid.
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* This may have been a factor in the failure of Robert Kirkman's very well-written ''[[ComicBook/AntMan Irredeemable Ant-Man]]'' series. At the time there were two Ant Men; Hank Pym, the original Ant-Man, and Scott Lang, the second to use the name. ''Irredeemable'' was about a third, brand-new character, Eric O'Grady. It didn't help that Eric O'Grady starts the comic as an [[JerkAss unlikeable dick]] ([[TookALevelInKindness he gets better]]) and fans were still pissed about Brian Michael Bendis having [[DroppedABridgeOnHim dropped a bridge on Scott Lang]]. This seems to be [[VindicatedByHistory decreasing with time]] as later books (like ''Thunderbolts'' and ''Secret Avengers'') have furthered Eric's CharacterDevelopment resulting in him becoming a snarky and likable JerkWithAHeartOfGold. In fact he seems to be slowly becoming an EnsembleDarkhorse, so much so that fans were enraged when [[spoiler: he seemingly died in ''Secret Avengers''.]]
* Pretty much everything about the ''Comicbook/AvengersArena'' [[BrokenBase base is broken]], but a good segment loathes the new characters from the [[ComicBook/CaptainBritain Braddock Academy]] out of fear that established characters ([[spoiler:such as poor [[Comicbook/AvengersAcademy Mettle]]]]) will be killed so they can have more screentime.
* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him since he's supposedly the same person. As such, the only mourning the original Cable really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and his own mother Jean Grey [[ParentalBetrayal preventing her from using his time travel device to go back and save him]], and the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for wanting to do this.
* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica''
** Averted with Bucky Cap. When Cap's old sidekick [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]] took the mantle after Steve Rogers' death, his portrayal was done successfully and he was widely accepted by the fans. To the point where [[ComicBookDeath Steve Rogers' inevitable return]] disappointed many fans that had grew accustomed to [[FanNickname BuckyCap]]. Possibly because of this, even after Rogers came back, he declined to take up his shield again and let Bucky continue to be Captain America for a while.
** Similarly, ComicBook/TheFalcon becoming the new Captain America in 2014 is not particularly hated by anyone. While some fans were disappointed that Bucky wasn't returning to the role, the majority of readers looked forward to Falcap. The problem that many have with it is not with Falcon himself, but rather with the writing of his tenure itself, as Rick Remender's run was not well-received at all, and is loaded with UnfortunateImplications, while Nick Spencer was known to take swipes at any detractors of is run, ''very'' unsubtly include political commentary and turned Steve Rogers into a Nazi. Many are sad that Falcap never got a fairer shake.
* Kade Kilgore's Hellfire Club, main antagonists of Jason Aaron's ''ComicBook/WolverineAndTheXMen''. In fairness to Aaron, the classic Hellfire Club members (and most of their direct replacements, too) are long dead or [[HeelFaceTurn face-turned]], but apparently he felt that the best characters to fill their shoes would be a cabal of [[EnfantTerrible sociopathic teenagers]] with a major ShowDontTell problem; they spend most of their panel-time talking about evil things that they did which we never ''see'' them do. They're typically referred to by derisive nicknames like "Heckfire Clubhouse" or "[[SpinoffBabies Hellfire Babies]]."
** When Creator/ChrisClaremont returned to the X-Men in the early 2000s, he created a number of new antagonists for them to fight, such as the Neo, the Shockwave Riders, Vargas, the disembodied telepath Elias Bogan, and a mutant slavery ring led by an alien named Tullamore Voge. None of these characters were particularly well-received, and most of them got a good deal of unnecessary CharacterShilling comparing them favorably to the established villains - Apocalypse considered the Shockwave Riders {{Worthy Opponent}}s, Bogan was said to be the ultimate head of the Hellfire Club despite never being mentioned before, and so on. It's probably telling that any time a writer other than Claremont has used one of these characters, they're shown being defeated in an amusingly undignified way, and ultimately most of them ended up as cannon fodder for crossovers.
* ''ComicBook/IronMan'':
** From the aftermath of ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', teen Tony Stark. Many Iron Man fans were already unsatisfied with adult Tony's FaceHeelTurn as it was, and were even less happy about him supposedly being EvilAllAlong (to the point that ''ComicBook/AvengersForever'' would RetCon that last bit for the most part), so bringing in an "uncorrputed" younger self from an AlternateTimeline really did not help matters at all. If there are any positives to the cash-grab that was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', it was that it ultimately allowed [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Franklin Richards]] to reset Tony back to his adult, non-evil self. Compounding the Scrappydom for Teen Tony was his "hologram armor", which was basically an in-universe way to justify [[DependingOnTheArtist its inconsistent appearance between issues]].
** From ComicBook/MarvelNow2016, Riri Williams, the new Iron Man. The majority of fans hate her because she's barely had any appearances, yet is the new Iron Man over other well-established characters. Others hate her because the name is Iron ''Man'', so it's clear she's a publicity stunt. And ''others'' hate her because she's [[CharacterShilling said to be better than Tony]], which a lot of people think is contrived. And yet more others think there's something inherently fishy about entrusting the story of a Gen Z black girl to a middle-aged white male author in 2016.
** This was mostly averted with his ''other'' 2016 successor as Iron Man, Victor von Doom. Yes, [[ComicBook/DoctorDoom that one]]. Probably in part because Doom ''wasn't'' accepted in-universe like Riri, maintained his own history, it feeling like a natural progression of his character at that point (he'd been an uneasy ally of Tony's and was TheAtoner after having his face healed by Reed Richards) and did more unique things with the Iron Man role -- such as using his connections to Marvel's villains to better hunt them -- he was more accepted into the role despite Tony Stark ''himself'' not wanting Doom to fill it. Many were actually sad to see little done with the role and Doom's status quo reset after all was said and done.
* Marcus Johnson aka Nick Fury Jr. is not only hated by the fans because he is a pandering towards movie-fans, who are used to the black Nick Fury (who originated from the ''ComicBook/TheUltimates''), but also because he is replacing his dad, who [[PutOnABus disappeared into the background because his youth formula wasn't working anymore]] before suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.
* When Creator/MarvelComics bought out Malibu, they cancelled several titles and rebooted many others. ''[[ComicBook/TheUltraverse Mantra]]'' was originally a title about a male warrior reincarnated in the body of female mystic and his struggle to cope with his new role. When Marvel took over, the central character was PutOnABus by being banished to another dimension and the Mantra mantle was passed to minor background character; a teenaged girl who had appeared as a babysitter in a couple of issues. Needless to say, fans were not impressed. In fact, this seems to be the consensus reaction to ''everything'' Marvel did to the imprint.
* ''ComicBook/{{Nova}}'' has Sam Alexander. Basically, Richard Rider had been the signature Nova Corpsman for nearly forty years, and he'd recently had an excellent run that concluded with a HeroicSacrifice in ''ComicBook/TheThanosImperative.'' The people who didn't want him back right away considered it a great conclusion to the franchise... so, of course, three years later, Jeph Loeb (one of Marvel's most widely-loathed writers) debuted a new Nova character. Sam Alexander won a lot of haters right away for his "arrogant hotheaded youth" personality, a far cry from the mature, experienced, and responsible Rider, and for his powers being completely inexplicable (the Nova Force died with Rider). He also got an immediate starring role in ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'', which is a ReplacementScrappy ''series'' and only dug him deeper. Gerry Dugan [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rehabilitated Alexander to some degree]], but than when ''Original Sin'' revealed what really happened to Rider, old wounds were reopened. Now people don't hate Sam, but most still direly want Rider back anyways. Exasperating the issue is that Sam is named after Loeb's late son, meaning he probably won't be going away.
* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}''
** There are a lot of fans who hate any character in ''Runaways'' who took the spotlight after [[spoiler:Gert died]]. No one gets this more than [[GreenThumb Klara Prast]], for being the only character not created by Creator/BrianKVaughan, for not having a supervillain parent like every other member of the team, for being introduced in a story generally regarded as a BizarroEpisode, for freaking out over the team lesbians, for not having an origin for her powers, for having a punny name. Lampshaded, when Molly remarks that the team eventually gets used to the new recruits [[spoiler: by the time someone else dies]].
** And then there was [[ComicBook/{{Runaways2015}} the new team]] introduced in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was almost entirely unconnected to the old team and made up of alternate-reality versions of established characters like Amadeus Cho and Jubilee. Originally advertised as an ongoing series but turned out to be just a four issue mini. It's unclear if this was by design[[note]]Most SW tie-ins were advertised as ongoings even in cases where it was fairly clear from the beginning that they won't be, like ''Years of Future Past''.[[/note]] or because it became one of the lowest-selling SW tie-ins.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'':
** Poor [[CloningBlues Ben Reilly]] who was disliked because of the revelation that he was the "real Peter Parker" and that the Peter fans had been reading for twenty years was really a clone. After the huge fan outrage Marvel quickly backtracked and reversed that decision. But what plenty of readers actually ''did'' like, however, was how Ben acted as sort of a brother figure to Peter, and felt that his slightly more rough-edged personality made for great character interaction between the two, and Ben has since remained somewhat of a fan favorite for those reasons.
*** Strangely enough, Ben became this for the Scarlet Spider identity itself. While he is the original, he pulled a HeroicSacrifice. Years later, Kaine would take the Scarlet Spider name and function as an AntiHeroSubstitute for Spider-Man which resulted in him becoming an EnsembleDarkHorse. Ben would return as the Jackal years later as an AntiVillain before running off to parts unknown and reclaiming the Scarlet Spider identity. However, his downright unlikability and villainous behaviour in his ''Scarlet Spider'' series, the development he'd undergone that changed him from a rougher but more back-to-basics version of Peter Parker to a cynical asshole who aped Deadpool's style of writing made him one for ''Kaine'', who still interacted with Ben while using the Scarlet Spider name and costume but existed to be beaten up repeatedly. So people now wanted Kaine back as the Scarlet Spider proper and for ''Ben'' to go away.
** Kaine, another Spider-Man clone, was a less explicit form of this trope. He wasn't really a replacement villain for an old one, but his [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] of Doc Ock solidified him in fans minds as an unwanted loser who was [[{{Metaphorgotten}} biting off more than he deserved to chew]] in casually offing a beloved, classic Spidey villain with decades of continuity to back him up, and prompted cries for Doc Ock's resurrection and Kaine's axing. Basically, Kaine managed to become a ReplacementScrappy for a character whose role he wasn't even taking over. Thankfully, Dr. Octopus was later resurrected, and Kaine performed a HeelFaceTurn, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap saving him from the scrappy heap]] by becoming the second Scarlet Spider, which turned him into an EnsembleDarkHorse.
** After the ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' storyline broke up the Parkers' marriage via a CosmicRetcon that took the form of a DealWithTheDevil, ''anyone'' Peter dated would have gotten heat for not being Mary Jane. But the replacement we got was Carlie Cooper, a RelationshipSue named after editor Creator/JoeQuesada's daughter. The very same Joe Quesada who had basically just enforced the break up by editorial fiat, by claiming that Peter had to be made a single again arguing that being married made Spider-Man appear "old" and that it expand opportunities for future stories. Mary Jane became a ShipperOnDeck for the pairing, [[CreatorsPet and so did everyone else]]. Reactions were negative, to say the least, as many readers already saw the whole CosmicRetcon as Quesada getting of a overall very well-liked OfficialCouple, simply because he personally disliked it, and to immediately follow up with Peter hitching up with, again, a brand new character ''named after his daughter'', was just adding a generous sprinkling of salt to the wounds and raised several questions about his motives for being so set on breaking up the couple to begin with. Also, as pointed out in the Spider-Man WildMassGuessing page, all of her [[InformedAttribute Informed Attributes]] ''come from other love interests'' like Mary Jane, Black Cat, and Deb Whitman. Now people are hoping she'll "be like Gwen Stacy" and die. Following the events of ComicBook/SpiderIsland, Peter and Carlie broke up. However, Carlie is not completely out of the picture and remains friends with Mary Jane, as well as serving as Spidey's occasional ally on the police force.
** Carlie's successor as love interest is new character Cindy Moon, alias the heroine Silk and ''also'' a ReplacementScrappy. She is commonly criticized as having many Mary Sue traits, such as having Peter's exact power set, but superior in every aspect but physical strength, and being the star pupil of Ezekiel Sims [[RememberTheNewGuy who was never mentioned in any of his previous appearances]]. Adding to this, there are many fans who dislike the idea of Peter dating a fellow superhuman at all.
** Any Hobgoblin that isn't [[FirstInstallmentWins the original]], Roderick Kingsley. Kingsley is a fan favorite for his [[MagnificentBastard brilliance]], [[FauxAffablyEvil likability]], and high success rate. The others? Not so much:
*** Jason Macendale was an unlikable, one-note BloodKnight and former C-Lister who was almost offensively [[HarmlessVillain incompetent]]. The original Hobgoblin was a powerful mastermind feared by all; Macendale was so pathetic that even ''the writers'' came to hate him. He was killed off and occasionally gets mentioned again, but ''never'' with kindness.
*** Phil Urich was seen as only slightly less of a loser. He had a better success rate, but his motive (trying to impress a girl who was blatantly uninterested) was a complete joke and he only got the identity by cheapshotting the original and stealing the gear. It was revealed that the original Hobgoblin was alive and well, and a major storyline had him confront and utterly trounce the pretender.
** Doctor Octopus has become a ''major'' one among fans after a recent arc concluded with him [[FreakyFridayFlip taking over Peter's body]] and becoming the new Spider-man, while Peter [[KilledOffForReal dies in his]], leading up to the new series ''Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan''. This cooled off considerably once it was revealed that [[spoiler:''both'' their minds were in Peter's body... only to flare up again when Otto erased Peter from his mind and took full control.]]
*** Toward the end of the series WordOfGod from Dan Slott revealed that [[spoiler: this was wholly intentional; the point of the storyline was to demonstrate how fans take Peter for granted by replacing him with the worst possible substitute. It is ''Peter'', not Otto, who is the "Superior Spider-Man" of the title, as admitted by Otto before he [[RedemptionEqualsDeath voluntarily erases himself]] and gives Peter full control once more]]. The storyline still has some detractors, though, mostly due to ArcFatigue, with some fans feeling everything the series accomplished could've been done in a single arc.
** During Creator/KevinSmith's run on ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'', Quentin Beck, the original Mysterio, committed suicide. Some years later, when Smith got the opportunity to write a Spider-Man story, he gave the Mysterio costume to an original creation, Francis Klum, who Smith tried to play up as a misunderstood victim who was pushed into villainy after Spider-Man beats him so badly that he's left permanently disfigured. He was so poorly received that Marvel ended up bringing Quentin Beck back from the dead and having Klum implicitly killed off.
** ''Everyone'' who became ComicBook/{{Venom}} who isn't Eddie Brock or Flash Thompson.
*** When Eddie sold the symbiote in an auction after he found out it was changing him for the worse, Angelo Fortunato won the symbiote and did pretty much ''nothing'' apart from wreaking senseless havoc for four issues and then die. Even the fans who ''do'' know about Angelo see him as no one who matters, and a total waste overall. He had taken the symbiote solely out of a cocky desire [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys to win him some girls]] [[WellDoneSonGuy and his dad's approval]], and to be seen as one of the hot baddies of Marvel alongside ComicBook/{{Magneto}} and ComicBook/{{Doctor Doom}}. Even ''the Venom symbiote itself'' drops out and leaves Angelo to fall to his death, simply because he was that pathetic and nowhere near as sufficient as Eddie Brock was.
*** This would continue once Mac Gargan (formerly the Scorpion) took over the identity of Venom. Not only was he the antithesis of everything Brock stood for -- he didn't bother protecting innocents, gave in to the symbiote's violent urges rather than controlling them and was completely selfish -- but him getting the symbiote was just a blatant poor attempt to end the massive VillainDecay Gargan had gone through as Scorpion. However in the words of one reviewer; "a loser in a Venom suit is still a fucking loser". He was just a one-note bad guy who ate people a lot and wasn't even threatening because he seemed to exist to get hit with TheWorfEffect and didn't even know Peter Parker was Spider-Man, meaning he wasn't even an effective ''villain'' to Spider-Man like Eddie was. Nobody liked it and he ended up losing the symbiote after ''Dark Reign'' and ''Siege''.
*** Thankfully averted with his successor Flash Thompson as Agent Venom. Flash was straight-up heroic and returned to the idea of Venom's host fighting its bloodthirsty urges, while also being a darker take on Spider-Man with some complex and nuanced characterisation. Many consider him to be a great character in his own right and he's become a big fan-favorite and the only Venom after Eddie to be liked. However...
*** After losing the symbiote ''off-panel'', Flash lost the Venom identity to Lee Price, who is by far one of the two most hated Venom hosts ''by far'' (the other being Angelo). This is because Lee was unsympathetic despite the efforts of Mike Costa -- he casually abused the symbiote and, much like Gargan, is entirely selfish and is more focused on murdering innocents rather than protecting them. However, unlike Gargan, Lee was only a recently-introduced character much like Angelo Fortunato, and is just some shallow misanthrope with no other personality traits as opposed to Gargan's more lovably-scummy, dark DeadpanSnarker personality. This is very fortunately ended once Eddie Brock finally got back the Venom symbiote, and remains with it now, much to the excitement for Eddie-Venom fans, but to the chagrin of Flash-Venom fans (until he got a copy of the Anti-Venom symbiote).
*** But just when it seems like Lee would be written out entirely, he managed to pull off one last stunt before being steamrolled into ComicBookDeath land: end up being a replacement scrappy for ''two characters''. For the story arc ''Venom Inc.'', Lee took the Mania symbiote as his own [[note]]Cullen Bunn, Mania's creator, was not even informed of this decision - revolting him greatly and derailing his plans for his character (which, given how fond he was of Mania, he always had ''a lot'' of)[[/note]], thus phasing out a beloved EnsembleDarkhorse to [[CharacterShilling shill out a despised character yet again]], further alienating Agent Venom fans from the character. Thankfully, on 2019's Free Comic Book Day, Lee was unceremoniously stripped of the Mania symbiote and then ''finally'' killed by ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. To say the least, ''all'' Venom fans not only revelled in Lee's death, but some had grown to appreciate Carnage, BaseBreakingCharacter as he is, significantly more than previously.
* The new ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan, [[AffirmativeActionLegacy Miles Morales]], was initially treated like this in-universe. A number of characters such as Nick Fury and Spider Woman felt it was disrespectful of Miles to don the Spider-Man mantle after the death of Peter Parker, but he managed to win both of them over after displaying his heroism during a battle with Electro. However he still routinely deals with cops and civilians who view his actions as disrespectful to Peter's memory.
** Not like it didn't happen out of universe as well, however he's more of BaseBreakingCharacter then purely hated. Some feel he's a very good character and the only good thing the Ultimate Universe has left and other think he's Peter Parker light with nothing really interesting about him. While the character has garnered fans since his introduction, the move is still debated - [[spoiler:even after Ultimate Peter Parker's resurrection]]. And then the race thing comes up.
* Tanarus, the guy who's replaced [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] after ''Comicbook/FearItself'' has got hate immediately, because he looks like a NinetiesAntiHero, his appearance and Thor's death mean that there won't be interaction between Thor and Kid!Loki for awhile, he's not using {{Mjolnir}} at all, but a weird staff with a heavy head (indicating to fans that he's not worthy to be Thor anyways, since a worthy person can lift the hammer), and for not being one of the ''many'' established people who could take over for Thor, namely Beta-Ray Bill and Thunderstrike. Oh, and the fact that when the announcement was made Thor wasn't even dead yet. Thankfully, this turned out to be wholly intentional on the writer's part, as Tanarus was revealed to be someone's impersonation of Thor who had usurped everyone but Loki's memories of him, and ended up integral to Thor's return. Notably, he really didn't star in most of the comics, Loki taking over that title too until Thor was back.
** The first and last seem to be annoying people the most, since the first is clearly so Kid!Loki will have a harder time of it without Thor to protect him and the latter is seen as being too much like the DC reboot's treatment of well-liked characters.
** In-universe, Loki loathes Taranus for this very reason. It's even worse for Loki because [[spoiler:he's the one responsible for this situation.]]
* The [[ComicBook/Thor2014 female Thor]] got this treatment from the very moment she was announced and it's only been getting worse with time:
** Initially it wasn't anything against her character (her identity is a mystery at first and nothing about her was revealed), but due to the fact that she's using the Thor name. Unlike Captain America and Batman, that is Thor's legitimately real name. It's like if Dick Grayson just started calling himself Bruce Wayne out of nowhere. Marvel even said that she's not She-Thor or Thorgirl, but ''Thor''. This also lead to confusion regarding solicitations and the like, which still refer to the real Thor as Thor, but also refer to female Thor as Thor.
** Then there was the way the original Thor lost his hammer. Jason Aaron apparently thought that having Nick Fury whisper something mean into Thor's ear would be enough to have Thor lose his hammer. Having a beloved character be shoved out of his role through such an AssPull method angered some readers.
** When her book actually started, things got even worse, as some saw it as having ''very'' [[{{Anvilicious}} unsubtle and heavy-handed]] feminist messages and [[TakeThatCritics insulting subtext]] directed at anyone who disliked the change.
** Not helping all of this is the fact that Marvel has lately been [[WolverinePublicity plastering She-Thor front and center on just about any cover they can]], which is starting to give her a CreatorsPet vibe.
** A stranger case involves the identity of the new Thor, [[spoiler: Jane Foster]]. The series blatantly teased that she was actually [[spoiler: Roz Solomon]], and many people would have preferred they went that route, as many felt the revelation that she was [[spoiler: Jane Foster]] was a twist for the sake of a twist and for diversity reasons. This subsided with the first issue of ''The Mighty Thor'', which actually went in-depth in its portrayal of [[spoiler: Jane Foster as a cancer patient]].
** [[spoiler: Jane Foster]] once again came back with vengeance this time now replacing [[spoiler: Brunnhilde as the new ComicBook/{{Valkyrie|MarvelComics}} moving foward and also becoming the new All-Mother of Asgard replacing Freyja after she abdicate the throne. When Marvel announced a new solo series but with Brunnhilde not starring in it after Jason Aaron decided to unceremoniously killed her off not just Brunnhilde but the entire Valkirye race in ''ComicBook/WarOfTheRealms'' for the sake giving Jane another book.]]
* Daniel Way's {{ComicBook/Thunderbolts}} team, which completely lost the team's CentralTheme (villains either seeking or being forced into redemption) by having a team made up almost entirely of anti-heroes like Punisher and Elektra. It also lacked any of the team's small few mainstays like Mach V and Mockingbird, as well as the prominent locations and supporting casts of previous volumes. It seems like even [[CreatorBacklash Way himself disliked the book]]; his final issue ends with Deadpool giving a blistering ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Red Hulk that reads like [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall he's chewing out Marvel editorial for completely missing the point of the Thunderbolts]].
* The entire Inhumans race and franchise was this to mutants and the X-Men for much of the 2010s, due to Marvel trying to replace the X-Men due to not owning their film rights. Originally a small, xenophobic race of genetically modified humans who gained superpowers through exposure to terrigen crystals, it was revealed that millions of people around the world have latent Inhuman DNA and are now gaining superpowers as a result of mass exposure to said terrigen. Terrigen also, incidentally, sterilizes mutants and created an "M-Pox" plague. The combination of the Inhumans occupying the X-Men's place as Marvel's superpowered minority allegory, their push into the mainstream while the X-Men were downplayed, and the M-Pox subplot resulted in ''vocal'' dislike of the Inhumans, who gained a small number of fans but much, much more detractors. After Disney/Marvel reacquired the film rights to the X-Men, the X-Men were given a ''massive'' push while the Inhumans were PutOnABus and relegated to occasional supporting roles ''at best''.
* With the real Wolverine dead, Marvel seems to ''really'' want to make ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} into the new Wolverine. While X-23 is the one actually using the codename, Sabretooth is the one who is actually filling the role Wolverine usually does; the token killer on a team who threatens violence on his enemies, but at the same time tries his hardest to ensure that no one else follows his path -- including the bad guys -- and is also TheAtoner. However, fan reaction has been polarised, at best. Many detractors point out that the guy is a bloodthirsty murderer and his high body count. Others point out that, unlike Logan and X-23, Victor ''didn't want to be redeemed'' -- his morality was flipped literally by magic. And the fact that this change in direction to his character could ''only'' be achieved through such a contrived reason (even for comic book standards) means it's hard to take him seriously as a character.
** Another part of this also stems from the fact that there ''already are'' heroic Sabretooths; they just tend to be alternate universe versions who don't have nearly as much blood on their hands. These versions are liked, and the mainstream Sabretooth is seen as a poor imitation of them.
* Avril Kincaid, the latest person to take up the name ComicBook/{{Quasar}}, quickly became this. A lot of the hate came from the fact that not only did she displace the more popular original male Quasar, Wendell Vaughn, but also the alien female Phyla-Vell, the daughter of ComicBook/CaptainMarVell. Coming off at a time where many of Marvel's mightiest were being replaced with many a LegacyCharacter, she just felt like a random cash-in. Things got worse with the lead-up to and release of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', where Avril was being [[CharacterShilling boasted as the only person who could smash a powerful barrier designed to keep alien threats out of Earth]] and being put in a ConvenientComa to raise tension because of it.
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* Creator/{{Wildstorm}}:
** The replacement for The Doctor from ''ComicBook/TheAuthority''.
** This can happen for whole teams as well. After the original ''{{ComicBook/Gen 13}}'' ended with the team being [[KilledOffForReal killed with a nuclear bomb]], the book was relaunched with an all-new team created by Creator/ChrisClaremont. The combination of the heavy-handed, [[ExecutiveMeddling editor-mandated]] deaths of the old team and the FiveTokenBand nature of the replacements meant that the results were pretty unpopular. The "new" ComicBook/Gen13 was cancelled after 16 issues, ending with the original team being bought back to life. The "new" Gen 13 have never even been mentioned again.



* Marcus Johnson aka Nick Fury Jr. is not only hated by the fans because he is a pandering towards movie-fans, who are used to the black Nick Fury (who originated from the ComicBook/{{The Ultimates}}), but also because he is replacing his dad, who [[PutOnABus disappeared into the background because his youth formula wasn't working anymore]] before suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* When Creator/MarvelComics bought out Malibu, they cancelled several titles and rebooted many others. ''[[ComicBook/TheUltraverse Mantra]]'' was originally a title about a male warrior reincarnated in the body of female mystic and his struggle to cope with his new role. When Marvel took over, the central character was PutOnABus by being banished to another dimension and the Mantra mantle was passed to minor background character; a teenaged girl who had appeared as a babysitter in a couple of issues. Needless to say, fans were not impressed. In fact, this seems to be the consensus reaction to ''everything'' Marvel did to the imprint.



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* The [[ComicBook/{{Thor 2014}} [[ComicBook/Thor2014 female Thor]] got this treatment from the very moment she was announced and it's only been getting worse with time:



* ''ComicBook/{{Wildstorm}}'' - with the replacement for The Doctor from ''ComicBook/TheAuthority''.
* When Creator/MarvelComics bought out Malibu, they cancelled several titles and rebooted many others. ''[[ComicBook/TheUltraverse Mantra]]'' was originally a title about a male warrior reincarnated in the body of female mystic and his struggle to cope with his new role. When Marvel took over, the central character was PutOnABus by being banished to another dimension and the Mantra mantle was passed to minor background character; a teenaged girl who had appeared as a babysitter in a couple of issues. Needless to say, fans were not impressed. In fact, this seems to be the consensus reaction to ''everything'' Marvel did to the imprint.



* This can happen for whole teams as well. After the original ''{{ComicBook/Gen 13}}'' ended with the team being [[KilledOffForReal killed with a nuclear bomb]], the book was relaunched with an all-new team created by Creator/ChrisClaremont. The combination of the heavy-handed, [[ExecutiveMeddling editor-mandated]] deaths of the old team and the FiveTokenBand nature of the replacements meant that the results were pretty unpopular. The "new" ComicBook/Gen13 was cancelled after 16 issues, ending with the original team being bought back to life. The "new" Gen 13 have never even been mentioned again.

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* During Creator/GrantMorrison's JLA run Huntress is this to Batman (she was brought in as a last second replacement for [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke]]). He eventually kicks her out after her continued disregard for rules leads to her almost executing a defeated villain.
* Happened to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} in JLA-Task Force. He wasn't loathed by the fans, he was loathed by his team members in canon.

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During Creator/GrantMorrison's JLA run ''ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsJLA'' run, Huntress is this InUniverse to Batman (she was brought in as a last second replacement for [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke]]). He eventually kicks her out after her continued disregard for rules leads to her almost executing a defeated villain.
* ** Happened to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} in JLA-Task Force. He wasn't loathed by the fans, he was loathed by his team members in canon.canon.
** ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} himself isn't hated, his removal from the Franchise/TeenTitans' history and replacement of the ComicBook/MartianManhunter as a founding member of the League ''was'' loathed by many fans.
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** Damian Wayne (Robin V) for Tim Drake (ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} III). When Damian was introduced, he did some very bad stuff, like beheading a B-list villain and trying to murder Tim. While Bruce didn't approve, many people feel he got off too lightly just because he's Bruce's biological son. He didn't officially take up the identity of Robin until after Bruce's "death", when Dick Grayson unceremoniously fired Tim from the role to make way for Damian. Tim would go on to be called Red Robin, a name not liked by many of his fans, and don two ugly-ass costumes. Tim was restricted to his solo series, which was considered pretty mediocre and furthered his "Batman Jr." {{Flanderization}}, while Damian got to appear in multiple well-received series. While this Rescued Damian from the Scrappy Heap, it also caused some resentment from Tim fans. Later on, after the New 52, Tim would only regularly appear in the much loathed ''Teen Titans'' ongoing, while Damian was featured in ''Batman and Robin'', where he got away with things no other Robin could get away with. However that series is still incredibly well-liked, as is Damian as a whole, especially for his relationships with Bruce and Dick. Basically, many Tim Drake fans still hate Damian for getting such a large push from DC at Tim's expense, up to and including Tim's place in the Batfamily while ''Jason Todd'' fans hate him for a perceived double standard in terms of how he's treated in-universe by Bruce and Dick.

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** Damian Wayne (Robin V) for Tim Drake (ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} III). When Damian was introduced, introduced he did was arrogant, cruel, obnoxious and outright homicidal: some of his very bad stuff, like beheading first actions were to murder a B-list villain and return to the cave proudly waving about the severed head, before trying to murder Tim. While Bruce didn't approve, Tim (and very nearly succeeding). Bruce's response to Damian's behaviour amounts to little more than mild scolding, and many people feel he got Damian gets off too lightly just because he's Bruce's biological son. He son (which has its own UnfortunateImplications about adopted sons not being "real" family). Damian didn't officially take up the identity of Robin until after Bruce's "death", when Dick Grayson unceremoniously fired Tim from the role to make way for Damian. Tim would go on to then be called Red Robin, a name not liked by many of his fans, and don two ugly-ass costumes. Tim was restricted to his own solo series, which was considered pretty mediocre and series as ComicBook/RedRobin (which furthered his "Batman Jr." {{Flanderization}}, {{Flanderization}}) and had his formerly brotherly relationship with Dick reduced to something more like co-workers, while Damian got to appear was prominently featured in multiple well-received series. While this Rescued Damian from the Scrappy Heap, it also caused some resentment from Tim fans. series with a big push on promoting him and Dick as brothers. Later on, after with the New 52, ComicBook/New52 reboot, Tim would only regularly appear appeared in the much loathed much-loathed ''Teen Titans'' ongoing, ongoing where he was isolated from the rest of the Batfamily, while Damian was featured the co-lead in the much more well-liked ''Batman and Robin'', Robin'' where he was promoted as Batman's "true" son and got away with things no other Robin could get away with. However that series is still incredibly well-liked, as is with (including [[https://i.redd.it/3vuuv9uxcuj51.jpg beating one person until he was braindead]] and outright killing another – and Bruce's response to the latter was to [[https://i.redd.it/0lsq716zcxj51.jpg hide the fact from Dick and Tim]] ''because it would make Damian as a whole, especially for his relationships with Bruce and Dick. Basically, look bad''). To sum up, many Tim Drake fans still hate Damian for getting such a large push from DC at Tim's expense, up to and including Tim's place in the Batfamily while ''Jason Todd'' – meanwhile, Jason Todd fans also hate him for a perceived double standard the double-standard in terms of how he's treated in-universe by Bruce and Dick.
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** Jason Todd as the second Robin. Originally a carbon-copy of Robin I, Dick Grayson, he was [[CosmicRetcon ret-conned]] into having a [[StreetUrchin street urchin]] origin and no longer having Dick's approval. He was also written as much angrier and prone to lashing out, including one story where it was left vague whether he ''outright murdered'' someone or not (after his resurrection, it was revealed that, yes, he murdered the person). This led to the second Robin becoming so controversial that DC had a ''call-in vote'' to see if fans wanted Jason to [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily die a gruesome death at the hands of the Joker.]] Ultimately, Jason's hatedom won and Jason Todd was [[DeadSidekick dead]] for two decades before being restored to life as the Red Hood, which rescued im from scrappydom until misuse resulted in him beign back in the pile.

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** Jason Todd as the second Robin. Originally a carbon-copy of Robin I, Dick Grayson, he was [[CosmicRetcon ret-conned]] into having a [[StreetUrchin street urchin]] origin and no longer having Dick's approval. He was also written as much angrier and prone to lashing out, including one story where it was left vague whether he ''outright murdered'' someone or not (after his resurrection, it was revealed that, yes, he murdered the person). This led to the second Robin becoming so controversial that DC had a ''call-in vote'' to see if fans wanted Jason to [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily die a gruesome death at the hands of the Joker.]] Ultimately, Jason's hatedom won and Jason Todd was [[DeadSidekick dead]] for two decades before being restored to life as the Red Hood, which rescued im him from scrappydom until misuse resulted in him beign being thrown back in into the pile.
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** At the beginning of the ''Comicbook/New52'' Wally didn't even ''exist'', and the role of the first Kid Flash was given to the second Kid Flash Bart Allen. Later on, they brought Wally back with some ''very'' controversial changes to his character. This Wally was pretty firmly disliked by classic Wally fans for his increased Jerkass tendencies, stereotypical portrayal, changes to Wally's relationships (he isn't close to his aunt Iris anymore, comes from a broken family, and outright hates the Flash) to... [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment other things]]. DC later brought back the original Wally in ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' while keeping New 52 Wally around as the classic version's cousin, and this had the added benefit of classic Wally fans giving Wally West II another chance now that he wasn't supposed to be their Wally anymore. Plus, the more controversial parts of his character had been heavily reined in by then.

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** At the beginning of the ''Comicbook/New52'' Wally didn't even ''exist'', and the role of the first Kid Flash was given to the second Kid Flash Bart Allen. Later on, they brought Wally back with some ''very'' controversial changes to his character. This Wally was pretty firmly disliked by classic Wally fans for his increased Jerkass tendencies, stereotypical portrayal, changes to Wally's relationships (he isn't close to his aunt Iris anymore, comes from a broken family, and outright hates the Flash) to... [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Flash), among other things]].things. DC later brought back the original Wally in ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' while keeping New 52 Wally around as the classic version's cousin, and this had the added benefit of classic Wally fans giving Wally West II another chance now that he wasn't supposed to be their Wally anymore. Plus, the more controversial parts of his character had been heavily reined in by then.

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** Cassandra Cain, the third Batgirl was this for a small number of fans. Not only was she a replacement for the first Batgirl Barbara Gordon, but she was also [[TheRealRemingtonSteele seemingly created just to wear the costume given up by]] the short-lived (as Batgirl) second Batgirl, Helena Bertinelli (who would then take on a permanent identity as the post-Crisis ComicBook/{{Huntress}}). Helena was intended to be temporary to begin with, but still... She was also a considerable departure from the original character, being a CuteMute CharlesAtlasSuperpower martial artist. However, she ''did'' develop a big fandom after her introduction, and even got her own solo series, and a lot of Barbara fans eventually accepted her, thanks to her relationship with Barbara, which moved Babs into an interesting role as TheMentor. Cass was ''so'' liked that this led to...

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** Cassandra Cain, the third Batgirl was this for a small number of fans. Not only was she a replacement for the first Batgirl Barbara Gordon, but she was also [[TheRealRemingtonSteele seemingly created just to wear the costume given up by]] the short-lived (as Batgirl) second Batgirl, Helena Bertinelli (who would then take on a permanent return to her old identity as the post-Crisis ComicBook/{{Huntress}}). Helena was intended to be temporary to begin with, but still... She was also a considerable departure from the original character, being a CuteMute CharlesAtlasSuperpower martial artist. However, she ''did'' develop a big fandom after her introduction, and even got her own solo series, and a lot of Barbara fans eventually accepted her, thanks to her relationship with Barbara, which moved Babs into an interesting role as TheMentor. Cass was ''so'' liked that this led to...


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** InUniverse, pre-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', Barbara viewed anyone taking up the name Batgirl as this. When Helena took up the identity and Batman new, Barbara threw a fit. She kept a close eye on Cass and was wary of Steph taking up the identity. When Misfit initially tried to pass herself off as Batigirl, Barbara once again flipped. In Barbara's eyes, they're not just taking her name, they're taking her ''legs''.
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* After the one-year TimeSkip following ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} was abruptly replaced by a new character named Arthur ''Joseph'' Curry. Arthur wasn’t exactly hated, but he never really caught on, partially due to being [[VanillaProtagonist kind of bland]] and partially because he was a brand new character who just got thrown at the audience with no explanation or buildup. After his book ''Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis'' petered out, DC quietly sidelined him and eventually had him just [[PutOnABus disappear offscreen]]. He was never spoken of again and quickly forgotten when the original Aquaman returned in ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', and eventually retconned away in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}.

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** After the original was [[HeroicSacrifice killed]] and {{Ret Gone}}d, DC initiated a LegacyImplosion policy which prevented the existence of any Kryptonians besides Superman. Creator/JohnByrne then engaged in a bit of LoopholeAbuse and gave us Matrix, a Supergirl that was basically an ArtificialHuman from a PocketDimension. While thought inferior to the original, she was at least ''a'' Supergirl and existed for several years.

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** After the original was [[HeroicSacrifice killed]] and {{Ret Gone}}d, DC initiated a LegacyImplosion legacy implosion policy which prevented the existence of any Kryptonians besides Superman. Creator/JohnByrne then engaged in a bit of LoopholeAbuse and gave us Matrix, a Supergirl that was basically an ArtificialHuman from a PocketDimension. While thought inferior to the original, she was at least ''a'' Supergirl and existed for several years.



** And finally a new version of the original Supergirl, Kara Zor-El, was created to get rid of the [[ContinuitySnarl confusing origins]] of the previous Supergirls once the LegacyImplosion policy was overturned. Although her initial appearances were promising (except for people who were upset with Linda's disappearance), she garnished significant hatred for being both DarkerAndEdgier and MsFanservice for a short while. Several {{Authors Saving Throw}}s by writers Tony Bedard and Sterling Gates -- who were fans of original Supergirl -- finally softened her character and clarified her history, and she became popular again.

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** And finally a new version of the original Supergirl, Kara Zor-El, was created to get rid of the [[ContinuitySnarl confusing origins]] of the previous Supergirls once the LegacyImplosion policy was overturned. Although her initial appearances were promising (except for people who were upset with Linda's disappearance), she garnished significant hatred for being both DarkerAndEdgier and MsFanservice for a short while. Several {{Authors Saving Throw}}s by writers Tony Bedard and Sterling Gates -- who were fans of original Supergirl -- finally softened her character and clarified her history, and she became popular again.
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* Robinson's run on ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' introduced Diana's twin Jason, the problems being that this cements the controversial change to Diana's backstory where Zeus is now her father and the source of all her powers ''and'' that Diana already had a twin, the underused fan favorite Nubia who seems to have been jettisoned from continuity to make place for Jason. It doesn't help that at her core Diana had always been intended to show what the pinnacle of what women could be if not for being oppressed and influenced by men and now her backstory and abilities are tied to two fan disliked male characters. Jason is also accused of being part of a SpotlightStealingSquad with Grail and Darkseid.

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* Robinson's run on ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' introduced Diana's twin Jason, the problems being that this cements the controversial change to Diana's backstory where Zeus is now her father and the source of all her powers ''and'' that Diana already had a twin, the underused [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1942 fan favorite Nubia Nubia]] who seems to have been jettisoned from continuity to make place for Jason. It doesn't help that at her core Diana had always been intended to show what the pinnacle of what women could be if not for being oppressed and influenced by men and now her backstory and abilities are tied to two fan disliked male characters. Jason is also accused of being part of a SpotlightStealingSquad with Grail and Darkseid.
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* When DC decided to kill off underdog fan-favorite Blue Beetle (Ted Kord, himself the second character to use that name), fans were enraged. His replacement, Jaime Reyes wasn't really disliked by people, but fans hated DC's callous treatment of Kord and the CharacterDerailment of him into a laughing stock for the other heroes, which came off as CharacterShilling for Reyes.

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* When DC decided to kill off underdog fan-favorite Blue Beetle (Ted Kord, himself the second character to use that name), fans were enraged. His replacement, Jaime Reyes wasn't really disliked by people, but fans hated DC's callous treatment of Kord and the CharacterDerailment of turning him into a laughing stock for the other heroes, which came off as CharacterShilling for Reyes.



** When her book actually started, things got even worse, as some saw it as having ''very'' [[{{Anvilicious}} unsubtle and heavy-handed]] feminist messages and [[TakeThatCritics insulting subtext]] directed at anyone who disliked the change. Then came the CharacterDerailment of several characters (including Odin and fan favorite villains Absorbing Man and Titania) to further push those messages, which pissed off much of the fanbase. The series itself has in the view of some, become a Replacement Scrappy for the CultClassic ''Journey Into Mystery'' book which starred fan favorites Lady Sif and Beta Ray Bill.

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** When her book actually started, things got even worse, as some saw it as having ''very'' [[{{Anvilicious}} unsubtle and heavy-handed]] feminist messages and [[TakeThatCritics insulting subtext]] directed at anyone who disliked the change. Then came the CharacterDerailment of several characters (including Odin and fan favorite villains Absorbing Man and Titania) to further push those messages, which pissed off much of the fanbase. The series itself has in the view of some, become a Replacement Scrappy for the CultClassic ''Journey Into Mystery'' book which starred fan favorites Lady Sif and Beta Ray Bill.
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*** But just when it seems like Lee would be written out entirely, he managed to pull off one last stunt before being steamrolled into ComicBookDeath land: end up being a replacement scrappy for ''two characters''. For the story arc ''Venom Inc.'', Lee took the Mania symbiote as his own [[note]]Cullen Bunn, Mania's creator, was not even informed of this decision - revolting him greatly and derailing his plans for his character (which, given how fond he was of Mania, he always had ''a lot'' of plans)[[/note]], thus phasing out a beloved EnsembleDarkhorse to [[CharacterShilling shill out a despised character yet again]], further alienating Agent Venom fans from the character. Thankfully, on 2019's Free Comic Book Day, Lee was unceremoniously stripped of the Mania symbiote and then ''finally'' killed by ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. To say the least, ''all'' Venom fans not only revelled in Lee's death, but some had grown to appreciate Carnage, BaseBreakingCharacter as he is, significantly more than previously.

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*** But just when it seems like Lee would be written out entirely, he managed to pull off one last stunt before being steamrolled into ComicBookDeath land: end up being a replacement scrappy for ''two characters''. For the story arc ''Venom Inc.'', Lee took the Mania symbiote as his own [[note]]Cullen Bunn, Mania's creator, was not even informed of this decision - revolting him greatly and derailing his plans for his character (which, given how fond he was of Mania, he always had ''a lot'' of plans)[[/note]], of)[[/note]], thus phasing out a beloved EnsembleDarkhorse to [[CharacterShilling shill out a despised character yet again]], further alienating Agent Venom fans from the character. Thankfully, on 2019's Free Comic Book Day, Lee was unceremoniously stripped of the Mania symbiote and then ''finally'' killed by ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. To say the least, ''all'' Venom fans not only revelled in Lee's death, but some had grown to appreciate Carnage, BaseBreakingCharacter as he is, significantly more than previously.



** [[spoiler: Jane Foster]] once again came back with vengeance this time now replacing [[spoiler: Brunnhilde as the new ComicBook/{{Valkyrie|MarvelComics}} moving foward and also becoming the new All-Mother of Asgard replacing Freyja after she abdicate the throne. When Marvel announced a new solo series but with Brunnhilde not starring in it after Jason Aaron decided to unceremoniously killed her off not just Brunnhilde but the entire Valkirye race in ''ComicBook/WarOfTheRealms'' for the sake giving Jane another book which fans got angry for this decision and they're waiting if Jane will step down when Brunnhilde returns for the dead.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jane Foster]] once again came back with vengeance this time now replacing [[spoiler: Brunnhilde as the new ComicBook/{{Valkyrie|MarvelComics}} moving foward and also becoming the new All-Mother of Asgard replacing Freyja after she abdicate the throne. When Marvel announced a new solo series but with Brunnhilde not starring in it after Jason Aaron decided to unceremoniously killed her off not just Brunnhilde but the entire Valkirye race in ''ComicBook/WarOfTheRealms'' for the sake giving Jane another book which fans got angry for this decision and they're waiting if Jane will step down when Brunnhilde returns for the dead.book.]]



* With the real Wolverine dead, Marvel seems to ''really'' want to make ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} into the new Wolverine. While X-23 is the one actually using the codename, Sabretooth is the one who is actually filling the role Wolverine usually does; the token killer on a team who threatens violence on his enemies, but at the same time tries his hardest to ensure that no one else follows his path -- including the bad guys -- and is also TheAtoner. However, fan reaction has been... polarised, at best. Many detractors point out that the guy is a bloodthirsty murderer and his high body count. Others point out that, unlike Logan and X-23, Victor ''didn't want to be redeemed'' -- his morality was flipped literally by magic. And the fact that this change in direction to his character could ''only'' be achieved through such a contrived reason (even for comic book standards) means it's hard to take him seriously as a character.

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* With the real Wolverine dead, Marvel seems to ''really'' want to make ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} into the new Wolverine. While X-23 is the one actually using the codename, Sabretooth is the one who is actually filling the role Wolverine usually does; the token killer on a team who threatens violence on his enemies, but at the same time tries his hardest to ensure that no one else follows his path -- including the bad guys -- and is also TheAtoner. However, fan reaction has been... been polarised, at best. Many detractors point out that the guy is a bloodthirsty murderer and his high body count. Others point out that, unlike Logan and X-23, Victor ''didn't want to be redeemed'' -- his morality was flipped literally by magic. And the fact that this change in direction to his character could ''only'' be achieved through such a contrived reason (even for comic book standards) means it's hard to take him seriously as a character.
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** Not like it didn't happen out of universe as well, however he's more of BaseBreakingCharacter then purely hated. Some feel he's a very good character and the only good thing the Ultimate Universe has left and other think he's Peter Parker light with nothing really interesting about him. While the character has garnered fans since his introduction, the move is still debated - [[spoiler:even after Ultimate Peter Parker's resurrection]]. And then the race thing comes up [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]]

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** Not like it didn't happen out of universe as well, however he's more of BaseBreakingCharacter then purely hated. Some feel he's a very good character and the only good thing the Ultimate Universe has left and other think he's Peter Parker light with nothing really interesting about him. While the character has garnered fans since his introduction, the move is still debated - [[spoiler:even after Ultimate Peter Parker's resurrection]]. And then the race thing comes up [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]]up.
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* This happened to ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke. Even though fans had warmed up to him, many writers would treat him poorly as he wasn't Ollie. For example, he was given a disease that prevented him from holding a bow again, something that seemed to even irritate people who weren't fans of the character. With the New 52, he and a bunch of Legacy Characters that apparently weren't "iconic" enough were relegated to Earth 2. In that universe, there doesn't seem to have ever been an Arrow family of characters, and Connor is the only one, and goes by Red Arrow, Roy Harper's old name from his Justice League days.

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* This happened to ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke. Even though fans had warmed up to him, many writers would treat him poorly as he wasn't Ollie. For example, he was given a disease that prevented him from holding a bow again, something that seemed to even irritate people who weren't fans of the character. With the New 52, he and a bunch of Legacy Characters that apparently weren't "iconic" enough were relegated to Earth 2. In that universe, there doesn't seem to have ever been an Arrow family of characters, and Connor is the only one, and goes by Red Arrow, Roy Harper's old name from his Justice League days. However, this version was barely used and bordered on InNameOnly status due to ''only'' having Connor's name and archery skills, and nothing else.



** Then, for those who were actually fans of the Earth-2 cast, they got shoved aside for brand new versions of Superman and Batman, even though the book's original selling point was that it would ''not'' be focusing on Batman and Superman.

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** Speaking of Bart, the New 52 massively overhauled his character. Scott Lobdell made sweeping changes to his character in his reviled ''Teen Titans'' run, changing the FunPersonified, light-hearted Bart Allen character into a murderous, edgy rebel from the future whose characterisation flipped on a dime (this was all under one writer no less, so it's not a case of DependingOnTheWriter). Even worse, he has ''zero'' connection to the Flashes, as his name isn't even Bart Allen (it's Bar Torr) and he doesn't even use the Speed Force. This character is ''reviled'' and ''Flash'' and ''Young Justice'' fans were just counting down the days till the ''real'' Bart Allen returned which he did in 2018 in the "Flash War" Storyline and Bar Torr has been all but forgotten about.

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** Speaking of Bart, the New 52 massively overhauled his character. Scott Lobdell made sweeping changes to his character in his reviled ''Teen Titans'' run, changing the FunPersonified, light-hearted Bart Allen character into a murderous, edgy rebel from the future whose characterisation flipped on a dime (this was all under one writer no less, so it's not a case of DependingOnTheWriter). Even worse, he has ''zero'' connection to the Flashes, as his name isn't even Bart Allen (it's Bar Torr) and he doesn't even use the Speed Force. This character is ''reviled'' and ''Flash'' and ''Young Justice'' fans were just counting down the days till the ''real'' Bart Allen returned returned, which he did in 2018 in the "Flash War" Storyline storyline, and Bar Torr has been all but forgotten about.forgotten.



* In-universe, Jakeem Thunder was seen as this by a number of the original ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica members. Ironically, he never really received much negative treatment from the fans since his predecessor wasn't a character most readers were likely to be familiar with in the first place.

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* In-universe, Jakeem Thunder was seen as this by a number of the original ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica members.members for replacing Johnny Thunder, who was now suffering from Alzheimer's. Ironically, he never really received much negative treatment from the fans since his predecessor wasn't a character most readers were likely to be familiar with in the first place.
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** From ComicBook/MarvelNow2016, Riri Williams, the new Iron Man. The majority of fans hate her because she's barely had any appearances, yet is the new Iron Man over other well-established characters. Others hate her because the name is Iron ''Man'', so it's clear she's a publicity stunt. And ''others'' hate her because she's [[CharacterShilling said to be better than Tony]], which a lot of people think is contrived. And yet more others think there's something inherently fishy about entrusting the story of a millennial black girl to a middle-aged white male author in 2016.

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** From ComicBook/MarvelNow2016, Riri Williams, the new Iron Man. The majority of fans hate her because she's barely had any appearances, yet is the new Iron Man over other well-established characters. Others hate her because the name is Iron ''Man'', so it's clear she's a publicity stunt. And ''others'' hate her because she's [[CharacterShilling said to be better than Tony]], which a lot of people think is contrived. And yet more others think there's something inherently fishy about entrusting the story of a millennial Gen Z black girl to a middle-aged white male author in 2016.
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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him since he's supposedly the same person. As such, the only mourning the original Cable really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and his own mother Jean Grey [[KickTheDog preventing her from using his time travel device to go back and save him]], and the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for wanting to do this.

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him since he's supposedly the same person. As such, the only mourning the original Cable really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and his own mother Jean Grey [[KickTheDog [[ParentalBetrayal preventing her from using his time travel device to go back and save him]], and the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for wanting to do this.
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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him since he's supposedly the same person, so the only mourning the original Cable really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for wanting to do this.

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him since he's supposedly the same person, so person. As such, the only mourning the original Cable really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and his own mother Jean Grey [[KickTheDog preventing her from using his time travel device to go back and save him]], and the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for wanting to do this.

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* Many people dislike Ryan Choi (ComicBook/TheAtom) due to how Ray Palmer sort of just vanished into limbo. However, when Ryan Choi was ignominiously killed off, people had gotten over that he wasn't Ray Palmer, and now viewed Ray as this. After a pretty massive racial controversy that got coverage on some non-comic sites, DC retconned Ryan's death during the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' series and now he is the sole Atom in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} continuity, with Ray being relegated to a scientific adviser for the S.H.A.D.E. organization.

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Many people dislike Ryan Choi (ComicBook/TheAtom) due to how Ray Palmer sort of just vanished into limbo. However, when Ryan Choi was ignominiously killed off, people had gotten over that he wasn't Ray Palmer, and now viewed Ray as this. After a pretty massive racial controversy that got coverage on some non-comic sites, DC retconned Ryan's death during the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' series and now he is the sole Atom in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} continuity, with Ray being relegated to a scientific adviser for the S.H.A.D.E. organization.



* At the same time as the Death of Superman arc, Franchise/{{Batman}} also got a ReplacementScrappy in [[AntiHeroSubstitute Azrael]], who took up the mantle after Batman's back was broken. He went over terribly with the fans, but like Superman, the writers never intended, and the readers never believed, that ComicBook/{{Azrael}} would ever be a ''permanent'' replacement.

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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
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At the same time as the Death of Superman arc, Franchise/{{Batman}} Batman also got a ReplacementScrappy in [[AntiHeroSubstitute Azrael]], who took up the mantle after Batman's back was broken. He went over terribly with the fans, but like Superman, the writers never intended, and the readers never believed, that ComicBook/{{Azrael}} would ever be a ''permanent'' replacement.



** First, there are the new versions of Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Al Pratt, and the rest of the ComicBook/JusticeSociety OfAmerica characters getting revamped by being made YoungerAndHipper and getting their backstories totally rewritten in an attempt by DC to make them more cooler. Fans of the Golden Age characters and the original Society members were put off by this since they liked the characters ''because'' they were older heroes, as well as the fact that they were more or less unrecognizable to the characters they once more. Many felt these were just the [=JSA=] characters InNameOnly.

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** First, there are the new versions of Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Al Pratt, and the rest of the ComicBook/JusticeSociety OfAmerica ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica characters getting revamped by being made YoungerAndHipper and getting their backstories totally rewritten in an attempt by DC to make them more cooler. Fans of the Golden Age characters and the original Society members were put off by this since they liked the characters ''because'' they were older heroes, as well as the fact that they were more or less unrecognizable to the characters they once more. Many felt these were just the [=JSA=] characters InNameOnly.
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* Many people dislike Ryan Choi (ComicBook/TheAtom) due to how Ray Palmer sort of just vanished into limbo. However, when Ryan Choi was ignominiously killed off, people had gotten over that he wasn't Ray Palmer, and now viewed Ray as this. After a pretty massive racial controversy that got coverage on some non-comic sites, DC retconned Ryan's death during the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' series and now he is the sole Atom in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} continuity, with Ray being regulated to a scientific adviser for the S.H.A.D.E. organization.

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* Many people dislike Ryan Choi (ComicBook/TheAtom) due to how Ray Palmer sort of just vanished into limbo. However, when Ryan Choi was ignominiously killed off, people had gotten over that he wasn't Ray Palmer, and now viewed Ray as this. After a pretty massive racial controversy that got coverage on some non-comic sites, DC retconned Ryan's death during the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' series and now he is the sole Atom in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} continuity, with Ray being regulated relegated to a scientific adviser for the S.H.A.D.E. organization.



** Pre-Flashpoint Superman (Super Dad) becoming a ReplacementScrappy for [=NuSupes=]! While it's ''much'' less common to find people who prefer [=NuSupes=], there are quite a few people who do feel bad for [=NuSupes=]' fans. However, in this case the Super Dad detractors are in the minority, and the overall consensus is that the Rebirth Superman line is the strongest the franchise has been in ''years''. An AuthorsSavingThrow was later attempted with the ''ComicBook/SupermanReborn'' crossover, which explained that ''both'' Supermen were merely parts of the real, whole Superman, validating both as equal parts of Superman... Except that Super Dad was the "blue" half of Superman while [=NuSupes=] was the "red", and in the original stories where Superman was split in two, the blue half is the real one... and when the two fused together, the resulting "complete" Superman is basically Super Dad, but with [=NuSupes=]' dead parents, so it seems like even ''DC's staff themselves'' prefer the pre-Flashpoint Superman.

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** Pre-Flashpoint Superman (Super Dad) becoming a ReplacementScrappy for [=NuSupes=]! While it's ''much'' less common to find people who prefer [=NuSupes=], there are quite a few people who do feel bad for [=NuSupes=]' fans. However, in this case the Super Dad detractors are in the minority, and the overall consensus is that the Rebirth Superman line is the strongest the franchise has been in ''years''. An AuthorsSavingThrow was later attempted with the ''ComicBook/SupermanReborn'' crossover, which explained that ''both'' Supermen were merely parts of the real, whole Superman, validating both as equal parts of Superman... Except that Super Dad was the "blue" half of Superman while [=NuSupes=] was the "red", and in the original stories where Superman was split in two, the blue half is the real one... and when the two fused together, the resulting "complete" Superman is basically Super Dad, but with [=NuSupes=]' dead parents, so it seems like even ''DC's staff themselves'' prefer the pre-Flashpoint Superman. Even the dead parents would eventually be done away with and all that remained of [=NuSupes=] would be his costume being something Superman wore at one point.



* The entire Inhumans race and franchise was this to mutants and the X-Men for much of the 2010s, due to Marvel trying to replace the X-Men due to not owning their film rights. Originally a small, xenophobic race of genetically modified humans who gained superpowers through exposure to terrigen crystals, it was revealed that millions of people around the world have latent Inhuman DNA and are now gaining superpowers as a result of mass exposure to said terrigen. Terrigen also, incidentally, sterilizes mutants and created an "M-Pox" plague. The combination of the Inhumans occupying the X-Men's place as Marvel's superpowered minority allegory, their push into the mainstream while the X-Men were downplayed, and the M-Pox subplot resulted in ''vocal'' dislike of the Inhumans, who gained a small number of fans but much, much more detractors. After Disney/Marvel reacquired the film rights to the X-Men, they were given a ''massive'' push while the Inhumans were PutOnABus and regulated to supporting roles.

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* The entire Inhumans race and franchise was this to mutants and the X-Men for much of the 2010s, due to Marvel trying to replace the X-Men due to not owning their film rights. Originally a small, xenophobic race of genetically modified humans who gained superpowers through exposure to terrigen crystals, it was revealed that millions of people around the world have latent Inhuman DNA and are now gaining superpowers as a result of mass exposure to said terrigen. Terrigen also, incidentally, sterilizes mutants and created an "M-Pox" plague. The combination of the Inhumans occupying the X-Men's place as Marvel's superpowered minority allegory, their push into the mainstream while the X-Men were downplayed, and the M-Pox subplot resulted in ''vocal'' dislike of the Inhumans, who gained a small number of fans but much, much more detractors. After Disney/Marvel reacquired the film rights to the X-Men, they the X-Men were given a ''massive'' push while the Inhumans were PutOnABus and regulated relegated to occasional supporting roles.roles ''at best''.
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* [[ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} Hawkgirl]] Kendra Saunders is an interesting case. Fans generally seemed to accept her and didn't mind so much that she wasn't truly Shiera. They had the same soul, after all. However quite a good number of fans were pissed when Kendra was killed off in ''Blackest Night'' and Sheira was brought back in ''Brightest Day'', and Kendra was set up as the Hawkgirl of Comicbook/{{Earth 2}} in the New 52.

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* [[ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} Hawkgirl]] Kendra Saunders is an interesting case. Fans generally seemed to accept her and didn't mind so much that she wasn't truly Shiera. They Shiera -- they had the same soul, after all. However quite a good number of fans were pissed when Kendra was killed off in ''Blackest Night'' and Sheira was brought back in ''Brightest Day'', with Kendra's last moments essentially featuring her throwing aside what made her a unique Hawkgirl -- her independence and not particularly strong affection for Hawkman. Later, Kendra was set up as relegated to being ''Earth-2'''s Hawkgirl, but didn't really have much of a point, and then was brought back to the Hawkgirl main DCU in ''Dark Nights: Metal'', where she ''was'' Shiera in all-but-name and retained ''zero'' of Comicbook/{{Earth 2}} in the New 52.personality traits of the original Kendra.



** Jason Todd as the second Robin. Originally a carbon-copy of Robin I, Dick Grayson, he was [[CosmicRetcon ret-conned]] into having a [[StreetUrchin street urchin]] origin and no longer having Dick's approval. He was also written as much angrier and prone to lashing out, including one story where it was left vague whether he ''outright murdered'' someone or not (after his resurrection, it was revealed that, yes, he murdered the person). This led to the second Robin becoming so controversial that DC had a ''call-in vote'' to see if fans wanted Jason to [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily die a gruesome death at the hands of the Joker.]] Ultimately, Jason's hatedom won by a narrow margin, and Jason Todd was [[DeadSidekick dead]] for two decades.
** Damian Wayne (Robin V) for Tim Drake (ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} III). When Damian was introduced, he did some very bad stuff, like beheading a B-list villain and trying to murder Tim. While Bruce didn't approve, many people feel he got off too lightly just because he's Bruce's biological son. He didn't officially take up the identity of Robin until after Bruce's "death", when Dick Grayson unceremoniously fired Tim from the role to make way for Damian. Tim would go on to be called Red Robin, a name not liked by many of his fans, and don two ugly-ass costumes. Tim was restricted to his solo series, which was considered pretty mediocre and furthered his "Batman Jr." {{Flanderization}}, while Damian got to appear in multiple well-received series. While this Rescued Damian from the Scrappy Heap, it also caused some resentment from Tim fans. Later on, after the New 52, Tim would only regularly appear in the much loathed ''Teen Titans'' ongoing, while Damian was featured in ''Batman and Robin'', where he got away with things no other Robin could get away with. However that series is still incredibly well-liked, as is Damian as a whole, especially for his relationships with Bruce and Dick. Basically, many Tim Drake fans still hate Damian for getting such a large push from DC at Tim's expense, up to and including Tim's place in the Batfamily. ''Jason'' fans hate him for a perceived double standard in terms of how he's treated in-universe by Bruce and Dick.

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** Jason Todd as the second Robin. Originally a carbon-copy of Robin I, Dick Grayson, he was [[CosmicRetcon ret-conned]] into having a [[StreetUrchin street urchin]] origin and no longer having Dick's approval. He was also written as much angrier and prone to lashing out, including one story where it was left vague whether he ''outright murdered'' someone or not (after his resurrection, it was revealed that, yes, he murdered the person). This led to the second Robin becoming so controversial that DC had a ''call-in vote'' to see if fans wanted Jason to [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily die a gruesome death at the hands of the Joker.]] Ultimately, Jason's hatedom won by a narrow margin, and Jason Todd was [[DeadSidekick dead]] for two decades.
decades before being restored to life as the Red Hood, which rescued im from scrappydom until misuse resulted in him beign back in the pile.
** Damian Wayne (Robin V) for Tim Drake (ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} III). When Damian was introduced, he did some very bad stuff, like beheading a B-list villain and trying to murder Tim. While Bruce didn't approve, many people feel he got off too lightly just because he's Bruce's biological son. He didn't officially take up the identity of Robin until after Bruce's "death", when Dick Grayson unceremoniously fired Tim from the role to make way for Damian. Tim would go on to be called Red Robin, a name not liked by many of his fans, and don two ugly-ass costumes. Tim was restricted to his solo series, which was considered pretty mediocre and furthered his "Batman Jr." {{Flanderization}}, while Damian got to appear in multiple well-received series. While this Rescued Damian from the Scrappy Heap, it also caused some resentment from Tim fans. Later on, after the New 52, Tim would only regularly appear in the much loathed ''Teen Titans'' ongoing, while Damian was featured in ''Batman and Robin'', where he got away with things no other Robin could get away with. However that series is still incredibly well-liked, as is Damian as a whole, especially for his relationships with Bruce and Dick. Basically, many Tim Drake fans still hate Damian for getting such a large push from DC at Tim's expense, up to and including Tim's place in the Batfamily. ''Jason'' Batfamily while ''Jason Todd'' fans hate him for a perceived double standard in terms of how he's treated in-universe by Bruce and Dick.

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, insulting, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him. Treat him as though he is the same Cable. [[ShootTheShaggyDog Despite everything old Cable was to them]] and [[DudeWheresMyRespect sacrificed for them over the years.]]
* Averted with ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. When Cap's old sidekick [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]] took the mantle after Steve Rogers' death, his portrayal was done successfully and he was widely accepted by the fans. To the point where [[ComicBookDeath Steve Rogers' inevitable return]] disappointed many fans that had grew accustomed to [[FanNickname BuckyCap]]. Possibly because of this, even after Rogers came back, he declined to take up his shield again and let Bucky continue to be Captain America for a while.
** Similarly, just from pre-publication press releases and the like, ComicBook/TheFalcon becoming the new Captain America in 2014 is not particularly hated by anyone. While some fans were disappointed that Bucky wasn't returning to the role, the majority of readers are looking forward to Falcap. The problem that many have with it is not with Falcon himself, but rather that Rick Remender will be writing the main Cap ongoing, since his run has not been well-received at all, and is loaded with UnfortunateImplications.

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, insulting, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him. Treat him as though he is since he's supposedly the same Cable. [[ShootTheShaggyDog Despite everything old person, so the only mourning the original Cable was to them]] really gets is in a one-shot where it's mostly Hope Summers being angry, and [[DudeWheresMyRespect sacrificed the original X-Force crew reuniting to avenge him -- and X-Force is presented as wrong for them over the years.]]
wanting to do this.
* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica''
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Averted with ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.Bucky Cap. When Cap's old sidekick [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]] took the mantle after Steve Rogers' death, his portrayal was done successfully and he was widely accepted by the fans. To the point where [[ComicBookDeath Steve Rogers' inevitable return]] disappointed many fans that had grew accustomed to [[FanNickname BuckyCap]]. Possibly because of this, even after Rogers came back, he declined to take up his shield again and let Bucky continue to be Captain America for a while.
** Similarly, just from pre-publication press releases and the like, ComicBook/TheFalcon becoming the new Captain America in 2014 is not particularly hated by anyone. While some fans were disappointed that Bucky wasn't returning to the role, the majority of readers are looking looked forward to Falcap. The problem that many have with it is not with Falcon himself, but rather that Rick Remender will be with the writing the main Cap ongoing, since of his tenure itself, as Rick Remender's run has was not been well-received at all, and is loaded with UnfortunateImplications.UnfortunateImplications, while Nick Spencer was known to take swipes at any detractors of is run, ''very'' unsubtly include political commentary and turned Steve Rogers into a Nazi. Many are sad that Falcap never got a fairer shake.



** From the aftermath of ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', teen Tony Stark. Many Iron Man fans were already unsatisfied with adult Tony's FaceHeelTurn as it was, and were even less happy about him supposedly being EvilAllAlong (to the point that ''ComicBook/AvengersForever'' would RetCon that last bit for the most part), so bringing in an "uncorrputed" younger self from an AlternateTimeline really did not help matters at all. If there are any positives to the cash-grab that was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', it was that it ultimately allowed [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Franklin Richards]] to reset Tony back to his adult, non-evil self. Compounding the Scrappydom for Teen Tony was his "hologram armor", which was basically an in-universe way to justify [[DependingOnTheArtist its inconsistent appearance between issues]].



** From the aftermath of ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', teen Tony Stark. Many Iron Man fans were already unsatisfied with adult Tony's FaceHeelTurn as it was, and were even less happy about him supposedly being EvilAllAlong (to the point that ''ComicBook/AvengersForever'' would RetCon that last bit for the most part), so bringing in an "uncorrputed" younger self from an AlternateTimeline really did not help matters at all. If there are any positives to the cash-grab that was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', it was that it ultimately allowed [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Franklin Richards]] to reset Tony back to his adult, non-evil self.
** Compounding the Scrappydom for Teen Tony was his "hologram armor", which was basically an in-universe way to justify [[DependingOnTheArtist its inconsistent appearance between issues]].
* Marcus Johnson aka Nick Fury Jr. is not only hated by the fans because he is a pandering towards movie-fans, who are used to the black Nick Fury (who originated from the ComicBook/{{The Ultimates}}), but also because he is replacing his dad, who apparently [[PutOnABus disappeared into the background because his youth formula wasn't working anymore]] before suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.

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** From the aftermath of ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', teen Tony Stark. Many This was mostly averted with his ''other'' 2016 successor as Iron Man fans were already unsatisfied with adult Man, Victor von Doom. Yes, [[ComicBook/DoctorDoom that one]]. Probably in part because Doom ''wasn't'' accepted in-universe like Riri, maintained his own history, it feeling like a natural progression of his character at that point (he'd been an uneasy ally of Tony's FaceHeelTurn as it was, and was TheAtoner after having his face healed by Reed Richards) and did more unique things with the Iron Man role -- such as using his connections to Marvel's villains to better hunt them -- he was more accepted into the role despite Tony Stark ''himself'' not wanting Doom to fill it. Many were even less happy about him supposedly being EvilAllAlong (to actually sad to see little done with the point that ''ComicBook/AvengersForever'' would RetCon that last bit for the most part), so bringing in an "uncorrputed" younger self from an AlternateTimeline really did not help matters at all. If there are any positives to the cash-grab that was ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', it was that it ultimately allowed [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Franklin Richards]] to role and Doom's status quo reset Tony back to his adult, non-evil self.
** Compounding the Scrappydom for Teen Tony
after all was his "hologram armor", which was basically an in-universe way to justify [[DependingOnTheArtist its inconsistent appearance between issues]].
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* Marcus Johnson aka Nick Fury Jr. is not only hated by the fans because he is a pandering towards movie-fans, who are used to the black Nick Fury (who originated from the ComicBook/{{The Ultimates}}), but also because he is replacing his dad, who apparently [[PutOnABus disappeared into the background because his youth formula wasn't working anymore]] before suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.



* There are a lot of fans who hate any character in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' who took the spotlight after [[spoiler:Gert died]]. No one gets this more than [[GreenThumb Klara Prast]], for being the only character not created by Creator/BrianKVaughan, for not having a supervillain parent like every other member of the team, for being introduced in a story generally regarded as a BizarroEpisode, for freaking out over the team lesbians, for not having an origin for her powers, for having a punny name...
** Lampshaded, when Molly remarks that the team eventually gets used to the new recruits [[spoiler: by the time someone else dies]].

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are a lot of fans who hate any character in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' ''Runaways'' who took the spotlight after [[spoiler:Gert died]]. No one gets this more than [[GreenThumb Klara Prast]], for being the only character not created by Creator/BrianKVaughan, for not having a supervillain parent like every other member of the team, for being introduced in a story generally regarded as a BizarroEpisode, for freaking out over the team lesbians, for not having an origin for her powers, for having a punny name...
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* Marvel fans are now accusing Marvel of turning ComicBook/TheInhumans into substitute ComicBook/XMen. Originally a small, xenophobic cult of genetically modified humans who gained superpowers through exposure to mystic crystals, recent events have revealed that millions of people around the world have latent Inhuman DNA and are now gaining superpowers as a result of mass exposure to said crystals. Crystals which, incidentally sterilize mutants. Needless to say fans have been less than pleased with these developments, saying Marvel is clumsily attempting to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans as "Superpowered symbol of minorities" because [[ExecutiveMeddling Marvel owns the film rights to the Inhumans but not the X-Men]]. Tellingly, when Disney bought out Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox in 2019, and thus Marvel gained their film rights, the X-Men were A-list again and the Inhumans were placed on the backburner.
* With the real Wolverine dead, Marvel seems to ''really'' want to make ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} into the new Wolverine. While X-23 is the one actually using the codename, Sabretooth is the one who is actually filling in the role Wolverine usually does; the token killer on a team who threatens violence on his enemies, but at the same time tries his hardest to ensure that no one else follows his path -- including the bad guys -- and is also TheAtoner. However, fan reaction has been... polarised, at best. Many detractors point out that the guy is a bloodthirsty murderer and his high body count. Others point out that, unlike Logan and X-23, Victor ''didn't want to be redeemed''. His morality was flipped literally by magic. And the fact that this change in direction to his character could ''only'' be achieved through such a contrived reason (even for comic book standards) means it's hard to take him seriously as a character.

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* The entire Inhumans race and franchise was this to mutants and the X-Men for much of the 2010s, due to Marvel fans are now accusing Marvel of turning ComicBook/TheInhumans into substitute ComicBook/XMen. trying to replace the X-Men due to not owning their film rights. Originally a small, xenophobic cult race of genetically modified humans who gained superpowers through exposure to mystic terrigen crystals, recent events have it was revealed that millions of people around the world have latent Inhuman DNA and are now gaining superpowers as a result of mass exposure to said crystals. Crystals which, incidentally sterilize mutants. Needless to say fans have been less than pleased with these developments, saying Marvel is clumsily attempting to replace the X-Men with terrigen. Terrigen also, incidentally, sterilizes mutants and created an "M-Pox" plague. The combination of the Inhumans occupying the X-Men's place as "Superpowered symbol Marvel's superpowered minority allegory, their push into the mainstream while the X-Men were downplayed, and the M-Pox subplot resulted in ''vocal'' dislike of minorities" because [[ExecutiveMeddling Marvel owns the Inhumans, who gained a small number of fans but much, much more detractors. After Disney/Marvel reacquired the film rights to the Inhumans but not the X-Men]]. Tellingly, when Disney bought out Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox in 2019, and thus Marvel gained their film rights, the X-Men X-Men, they were A-list again and given a ''massive'' push while the Inhumans were placed on the backburner.
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* With the real Wolverine dead, Marvel seems to ''really'' want to make ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} into the new Wolverine. While X-23 is the one actually using the codename, Sabretooth is the one who is actually filling in the role Wolverine usually does; the token killer on a team who threatens violence on his enemies, but at the same time tries his hardest to ensure that no one else follows his path -- including the bad guys -- and is also TheAtoner. However, fan reaction has been... polarised, at best. Many detractors point out that the guy is a bloodthirsty murderer and his high body count. Others point out that, unlike Logan and X-23, Victor ''didn't want to be redeemed''. His redeemed'' -- his morality was flipped literally by magic. And the fact that this change in direction to his character could ''only'' be achieved through such a contrived reason (even for comic book standards) means it's hard to take him seriously as a character.



* To many fans, ComicBook/TheInhumans are this to the entire mutant race. While some characters, such as [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Lunella Lafayette]] escape this, many fans are just sick and tired of them as a whole, due to the fact that many believe the Inhumans' rise to stardom is due to the fact that Marvel couldn't use the X-Men in their movies.
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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him murder the older Cable, and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, insulting, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him. Treat him as though he is the same Cable. [[ShootTheShaggyDog Despite everything old Cable was to them]] and [[DudeWheresMyRespect sacrificed for them over the years.]]

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him [[DroppedABridgeOnHim murder the older Cable, Cable]], and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, insulting, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him. Treat him as though he is the same Cable. [[ShootTheShaggyDog Despite everything old Cable was to them]] and [[DudeWheresMyRespect sacrificed for them over the years.]]
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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him kill the older Cable, and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die.

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* Quite a number of ComicBook/{{Cable}} fans hate Kid Cable, the younger version of Cable introduced during ''ComicBook/Extermination2018''. The character was introduced by having him kill murder the older Cable, and is young enough that he's been called a teenager in-universe, when a big part of Cable's appeal is that he's a grizzled old soldier. Not helping is how this younger Cable outright says that Cable "got old" before killing him and repeatedly exclaims that he himself ''is'' Cable. Many are counting down the days until the adult Cable returns and Kid Cable leaves, to either grow up into his adult self or die. To make matters worse, insulting, the Summers/Grey Family and X-Men [[EasilyForgiven forgive Kid Cable]] for murdering the original Cable, and effectively replace old Cable with him. Treat him as though he is the same Cable. [[ShootTheShaggyDog Despite everything old Cable was to them]] and [[DudeWheresMyRespect sacrificed for them over the years.]]
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*** This also happened when Mac Gargan (formerly the Scorpion) took over the identity of Venom. Not only was he the antithesis of everything Brock stood for -- he didn't bother protecting innocents, gave in to the symbiote's violent urges rather than controlling them and was completely selfish -- but him getting the symbiote was just a blatant poor attempt to end the massive VillainDecay Gargan had gone through as Scorpion. However in the words of one reviewer; "a loser in a Venom suit is still a fucking loser". He was just a one-note bad guy who ate people a lot and wasn't even threatening because he seemed to exist to get hit with TheWorfEffect and didn't even know Peter Parker was Spider-Man, meaning he wasn't even an effective ''villain'' to Spider-Man like Eddie was. Nobody liked it and he ended up losing the symbiote after ''Dark Reign'' and ''Siege''.

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*** This also happened when would continue once Mac Gargan (formerly the Scorpion) took over the identity of Venom. Not only was he the antithesis of everything Brock stood for -- he didn't bother protecting innocents, gave in to the symbiote's violent urges rather than controlling them and was completely selfish -- but him getting the symbiote was just a blatant poor attempt to end the massive VillainDecay Gargan had gone through as Scorpion. However in the words of one reviewer; "a loser in a Venom suit is still a fucking loser". He was just a one-note bad guy who ate people a lot and wasn't even threatening because he seemed to exist to get hit with TheWorfEffect and didn't even know Peter Parker was Spider-Man, meaning he wasn't even an effective ''villain'' to Spider-Man like Eddie was. Nobody liked it and he ended up losing the symbiote after ''Dark Reign'' and ''Siege''.



*** But just when it seems like Lee would be written out entirely, he managed to end up being a replacement scrappy for ''two characters''. For the story arc ''Venom Inc.'', Lee took the Mania symbiote as his own, thus phasing out a beloved EnsembleDarkhorse to [[CharacterShilling shill out a despised character yet again]], further alienating Agent Venom fans from the character. Thankfully, on 2019's Free Comic Book Day, Lee was unceremoniously stripped of the Mania symbiote and then ''finally'' killed by ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. To say the least, ''all'' Venom fans not only revelled in Lee's death, but some had grown to appreciate Carnage, BaseBreakingCharacter as he is, significantly more than previously.

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*** But just when it seems like Lee would be written out entirely, he managed to pull off one last stunt before being steamrolled into ComicBookDeath land: end up being a replacement scrappy for ''two characters''. For the story arc ''Venom Inc.'', Lee took the Mania symbiote as his own, own [[note]]Cullen Bunn, Mania's creator, was not even informed of this decision - revolting him greatly and derailing his plans for his character (which, given how fond he was of Mania, he always had ''a lot'' of plans)[[/note]], thus phasing out a beloved EnsembleDarkhorse to [[CharacterShilling shill out a despised character yet again]], further alienating Agent Venom fans from the character. Thankfully, on 2019's Free Comic Book Day, Lee was unceremoniously stripped of the Mania symbiote and then ''finally'' killed by ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. To say the least, ''all'' Venom fans not only revelled in Lee's death, but some had grown to appreciate Carnage, BaseBreakingCharacter as he is, significantly more than previously.

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