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** King [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Ferdinand the Catholic]], who ruled alongside her past until her death and then as sole regent until his own death in 1516, is also nowhere to be seen. Given that he and Isabella ruled jointly as monarchs in their own right (of Aragon and Castile respectively, whose union produced the basis of unified Spain), this would be highly unusual. Judging by the single throne in Isabella's court, this version of her seems to be ruling as a sole regent without a consort or co-regent, but the only queen-regnant of Spain in all of its real-world history was her namesake Queen Isabella II, who ruled over three hundred years later

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* TontoTalk: Averted. The Mohawk speak their own language throughout the entire episode. The one time Kahhori speaks Spanish, she speaks it fluently.



* TontoTalk: Averted. The Mohawk speak their own language throughout the entire episode. The one time Kahhori speaks Spanish, she speaks it fluently.

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* TontoTalk: Averted. The Mohawk speak their own language throughout the entire episode. The one time Kahhori speaks Spanish, she speaks it fluently.



* TontoTalk: Averted. The Mohawk speak their own language throughout the entire episode. The one time Kahhori speaks Spanish, she speaks it fluently.
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Queen Isabella is portrayed as a greedy and cruel monarch who sees the Mohawk as just natives to conquer and enslave. Historically, Isabella was ''against'' the enslavement of Native Americans, decreeing laws to prevent this from happening under most circumstances.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Queen Isabella is portrayed as a greedy and cruel monarch who sees the Mohawk as just natives to conquer and enslave. Historically, Isabella was ''against'' the enslavement of Native Americans, decreeing laws to prevent this from happening under most circumstances. Spain in general is also given this trope, as the country were mainly conquering in Real Life what's pretty much ''South''-America and never reached as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory. North-America was conquered mainly by England.
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** Queen [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Isabella the Catholic]] and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate. In general, Isabella looks like the makers patterned her mistakenly after Elisabeth of Valois, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's queen (whose name is the same in Spanish, Isabel), who was born a century later and did get to use all of this fashion.
** There's no record of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory (head writer A. C. Bradley tweeted that "in this universe, the rumors of the tesseract & forbidden lake made it to Europe so those searching for the Fountain of Youth started looking in NY and not in Florida"). Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.
* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: "Rodrigo Alphonso Gonzolo" is wrong for a Spanish name in a variety of ways. The correct names would be Alfonso and Gonzalo rather than Alphonso and Gonzolo, and they have still the additionaly problem that they are exclusively first names -- "Rodrigo Alfonso Gonzalo" would be [[TwoFirstNames Three First Names]] without any surname or toponymic, which at the time would be impossible to find in Spain (using a first name as a surname is highly unusual in the current Hispanosphere and was almost unheard of at the time).

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** Queen [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Isabella the Catholic]] and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; 1504, but the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn UsefulNotes/AnneBoleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Elizabethan]] period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate. In general, Isabella looks like the makers animators patterned her mistakenly after Elisabeth of Valois, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's queen (whose name is the same in Spanish, Isabel), who was born a century later in 1546 and did get to use all of this fashion.
** There's no record of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory (head writer A. C. Bradley tweeted handwaved It by tweeting that "in this universe, the rumors of the tesseract & and forbidden lake made it to Europe so those searching for the Fountain of Youth started looking in NY and not in Florida"). Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.
* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: "Rodrigo Alphonso Gonzolo" is wrong for a Spanish name in a variety of ways. The correct names would be Alfonso and Gonzalo rather than Alphonso and Gonzolo, and they have still have the additionaly additional problem that they are exclusively first names -- "Rodrigo Alfonso Gonzalo" would be [[TwoFirstNames Three First Names]] without any surname or toponymic, which at the time would be impossible to find in Spain (using a first name as a surname is highly unusual in the current Hispanosphere and was almost unheard of at the time).

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* PointOfDivergence: Surtur causing Ragnarok much, ''much'' sooner than in the Sacred Timeline causes the Tesseract to land near a Native American village instead of a village in Tønsberg, Norway.

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Surtur causing Ragnarok much, ''much'' sooner than in the Sacred Timeline causes the Tesseract to land near a Native American village instead of a village in Tønsberg, Norway.Norway.
** The Tesseract's presence in North America creates rumors that this is the location of the Fountain of Youth, drawing the Spanish Conquistadores farther north than they ventured in our world.
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** There's no record of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory. Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.

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** There's no record of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory.territory (head writer A. C. Bradley tweeted that "in this universe, the rumors of the tesseract & forbidden lake made it to Europe so those searching for the Fountain of Youth started looking in NY and not in Florida"). Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.
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!!! '''Alternate take on:''' A largely original story, but kicked off by an alternate take on ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and with some plot elements of ''Film/CaptainMarvel''

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!!! '''Alternate take on:''' A largely original story, but kicked off by an alternate take on ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and with some plot elements of ''Film/CaptainMarvel''''Film/CaptainMarvel2019''
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: While the episode gets a lot right about the Mohawk people, the same can't be said for the Spaniards.
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* WeHaveBecomeComplacent: The people of Sky World have long since accepted they cannot leave and grown to see their immortal lives there as paradise. Kahhori almost begins to accept it until conquistadors arrive and one is wearing her brother's necklace. She grows outraged and admonishes the Sky People for sitting on their gifts when there are threats to their kin back on Earth, mustering the willpower to pull the portal down to the ground and offering them the chance to join her jn defending their nations.

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* WeHaveBecomeComplacent: The people of Sky World have long since accepted they cannot leave and grown to see their immortal lives there as paradise. Kahhori almost begins to accept it until conquistadors arrive and one is wearing her brother's necklace. She grows outraged and admonishes the Sky People for sitting on their gifts when there are threats to their kin back on Earth, mustering the willpower to pull the portal down to the ground and offering them the chance to join her jn in defending their nations.
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** The Latin American Spanish dub was only applied for the last scene where Kahoori and Strange Supreme speaks English dialog (while this was extended for Kahoori in her Spanish lines to keep her voice in subsequent episodes).

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* DoesNotSpeakCommon: The episode offers none of the usual illusion of [[TranslationConvention the Mohawk and Spaniards speaking English for the audience's benefit]]; nearly the entire episode is performed in their two languages, aside from brief appearances by pre-established characters.



* TranslationConvention: Averted for the Mohawk and Spanish, as they speak in their native languages with the audience only understanding them via subtitles. The only characters who speak English in this episode are the Watcher, Surtur, and Strange Supreme. An alternate cut of the episode with English audio was made available as an Extra on Creator/DisneyPlus

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* TranslationConvention: Averted for the Mohawk and Spanish, as they speak in their native languages with the audience only understanding them via subtitles. The only characters who speak English in this episode are the Watcher, Surtur, and Strange Supreme. Supreme -- somewhat muddying the impression, as presumably Surtur doesn't actually speak English, while [[Recap/WhatIfS2E7WhatIfHelaFoundTheTenRings the very next episode]] plays TranslationConvention perfectly straight for its entire runtime.
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An alternate cut of the episode with English audio was made available as an Extra on Creator/DisneyPlusCreator/DisneyPlus.
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** Queen [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Isabella the Catholic]] and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate.
** There's no records of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory. Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.

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** Queen [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Isabella the Catholic]] and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate.
inaccurate. In general, Isabella looks like the makers patterned her mistakenly after Elisabeth of Valois, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's queen (whose name is the same in Spanish, Isabel), who was born a century later and did get to use all of this fashion.
** There's no records record of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory. Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.

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** Queen Isabella and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate.
** There's no records of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory.

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** Queen [[UsefulNotes/TheCatholicMonarchs Isabella the Catholic]] and her court are wearing clothing that would not be fashionable for at least another 30 to 60 years (given the episode had to have taken place within the 1490s). A couple of courtiers are wearing Tudor-style French hoods, whilst many others wear stiff ruffs around their necks (notably the guards and the queen herself). Isabella died in 1504; the French hoods typically associated with Anne Boleyn come from the late 1510s to early 1520s, whilst the ruff, which is much more associated with the Elizabethan period, would not come into style until the 1560s. Furthermore, the hairstyles are also inaccurate.
** There's no records of Spanish Conquistadors ever reaching as far north as the Mohawk Nation territory. Moreover, unlike what the episode shows, Conquistadors didn't usually act on direct royal orders (they were fundamentally private initiatives subjected to the regional authority) and would not have been employed by the queen in the place of her actual armies.
* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: "Rodrigo Alphonso Gonzolo" is wrong for a Spanish name in a variety of ways. The correct names would be Alfonso and Gonzalo rather than Alphonso and Gonzolo, and they have still the additionaly problem that they are exclusively first names -- "Rodrigo Alfonso Gonzalo" would be [[TwoFirstNames Three First Names]] without any surname or toponymic, which at the time would be impossible to find in Spain (using a first name as a surname is highly unusual in the current Hispanosphere and was almost unheard of at the time).
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* GildedCage: While Sky World is a beautiful paradise, Kahhori feels like it's a prison since the portal back is inaccessible.


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* WeHaveBecomeComplacent: The people of Sky World have long since accepted they cannot leave and grown to see their immortal lives there as paradise. Kahhori almost begins to accept it until conquistadors arrive and one is wearing her brother's necklace. She grows outraged and admonishes the Sky People for sitting on their gifts when there are threats to their kin back on Earth, mustering the willpower to pull the portal down to the ground and offering them the chance to join her jn defending their nations.
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** When the women of the village are shown tending to the crops, the crops are the "Three Sisters" of Native American agriculture: corn, beans, and squash, traditionally grown together in a mutually-beneficial manner: the corn stalks provide a trellis for the bean branches to climb, the beans add nitrogen to the soil and help stabilize the corn stalks, and the broad leaves of the squash provide shade that helps keep the soil moist and prevent weed growth.

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** When the women of the village are shown tending to the crops, the crops are the "Three Sisters" of Native American agriculture: corn, beans, and squash, which were traditionally grown together in a mutually-beneficial manner: the manner. The corn stalks provide a trellis for the bean branches to climb, the beans add nitrogen to the soil and help stabilize the corn stalks, and the broad leaves of the squash provide shade that helps keep the soil moist and prevent weed growth.

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* ShownTheirWork: The staff on the episode worked with citizens of the [[https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/mohawk Kanien'kehá:ka]] - [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohawk_people The Mohawk Nation]] while writing the episode. Many of its citizens also provided "Additional Voices", as listed in the credits.

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The staff on the episode worked with citizens of the [[https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/mohawk Kanien'kehá:ka]] - [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohawk_people The Mohawk Nation]] while writing the episode. Many of its citizens also provided "Additional Voices", as listed in the credits.credits.
** When the women of the village are shown tending to the crops, the crops are the "Three Sisters" of Native American agriculture: corn, beans, and squash, traditionally grown together in a mutually-beneficial manner: the corn stalks provide a trellis for the bean branches to climb, the beans add nitrogen to the soil and help stabilize the corn stalks, and the broad leaves of the squash provide shade that helps keep the soil moist and prevent weed growth.

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