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* AbsenteeActor: Cecile isn’t in this episode.
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* NotGoodWithRejection: The Speed Force takes Bsrry's refusal to help her kill the other Forces pretty poorly.

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* NotGoodWithRejection: The Speed Force takes Bsrry's Barry's refusal to help her kill the other Forces pretty poorly.

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* AntagonisticOffspring: The Forces are treated as Barry's and Iris's children. Joe even makes the direct comparison to how he and Wally first met.



* TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode. Kamilla also returns.

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* TheBusCameBack: BeyondRedemption: What Barry considers the Forces, especially Nora, at first. Iris disagrees.
* BreakingSpeech: Nora, in Psych's illusion, tries to give one to Iris, telling her she'll never measure up to her. She [[HeroicWillpower manages to resist and break through the illusion]].
* TheBusCameBack:
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Timeless Wells returns in this episode. episode.
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Kamilla also returns.returns.
** Deon and Psych return.
* ButNowIMustGo:
** Timeless Wells, at the end of the episode.
** Both Kamilla and Cisco come to the same conclusion that they will soon have to leave Central City.



* CreateYourOwnVillain: Barry and Iris were responsible for creating the Forces.



* RedemptionRejection: Iris attempts to get through to Psych, only for him to willfully ignore it.

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* AGodAmI: Both Psych and Deon have dellusions of godhood.
* HorrifyingTheHorror: Deon, despite initially putting up a tough guy act, is seemingly horrified by the Speed Force when the latter confronts him.
* InternalReveal: Deon and Psych learn about their origins.
* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Alexa wakes up, seemingly confused how she even got there.
* LuredIntoATrap: Psych lures Iris, Kamilla and Allegra to Barry's childhood home, where they think they'll find Nora.
* NeverMyFault: The Speed Force refuses to take up responsibility for killing Alexa, instead blaming Barry for creating her in the first place.
* NotGoodWithRejection: The Speed Force takes Bsrry's refusal to help her kill the other Forces pretty poorly.
* RedemptionRejection: Iris [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight attempts to get through through]] to Psych, only for him to willfully ignore it.


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* ShoutOut: Wells in 2000 is talking about [[Series/TheWestWing President Bartlet]] while watching TV.
* SpottingTheThread: Deon immediately notices that something is off and then quickly recognizes Barry as the one responsible for his creation.
* TwoLinesNoWaiting: Iris, Kamilla and Allegra trying to find Nora and being set up by Psych is treated with the same importance as the rest of Team Flash going back in time to try and stop the Forces from being created.
* UndyingLoyalty: Despite Cisco disagreeing with him, he still helps Barry to go back in time.
* UnwantedAssistance: Deon does not want Barry helping him to become normal.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Everyone besides Barry on Team Flash seems to take the SentientCosmicForce to its logical conclusion and argue from the premise that Barry uncreating the other forces is like killing a person. Iris in particular talks like Nora is the person herself instead of just the form the Speed Force assumed.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Everyone besides Barry on Team Flash seems to take the SentientCosmicForce to its logical conclusion and argue from the premise that Barry uncreating the other forces is like killing a person. Iris in particular talks like Nora is the person herself instead of just the form the Speed Force assumed. Barry, who has always been firmly opposed to killing people, merely assumes that the forces are just mindless energy that got bonded to human hosts. Deon is quick to disabuse him of this notion, declaring that he ''is'' the Still Force in human form, not a human that got imbued with energy.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Iris' fear is revealed to be that she won't ever be as good a mother as Barry's was.

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Iris' Iris's fear is revealed to be that she won't ever be as good a mother as Barry's was.



* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but, for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like uncreating a force is killing a person anyways. Stranger still, since they're all introduced as villains callously terrorizing and murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up. Psych is a sadist that rejects Iris' offer of redemption so he can keep torturing people.

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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but, for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like uncreating a force is killing a person anyways. Stranger still, since they're all introduced as villains callously terrorizing and murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up. Psych is a sadist that rejects Iris' Iris's offer of redemption so he can keep torturing people.
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Barry's plan is to travel back in time to the night the forces were created and undo their existence. He does travel back with Timeless Wells, but ends up not going through with it.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Iris' fear is revealed to be that she won't ever be a better mother than Barry's was.

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Iris' fear is revealed to be that she won't ever be as good a better mother than as Barry's was.
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* AbsenteeActor: Cecile isn’t in this episode.
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* WhamShot: The Speed Force confronts Deon, performing Thawne's infamous hand motion.

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* WhamShot: The Speed Force confronts Deon, performing Thawne's infamous vibrating hand motion.
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After a devastating betrayal, Barry turns to Timeless Wells for help. Meanwhile, Iris leads Team Citizen down a dangerous road in search of answers, and Cisco confides his biggest fear to Kamilla.
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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but, for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like uncreating a force is killing a person anyways. Stranger still, since they're all introduced as villains callously terrorizing and murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up and Psych is a sadist that rejects Iris' offer of redemption so he can keep torturing people.

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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but, for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like uncreating a force is killing a person anyways. Stranger still, since they're all introduced as villains callously terrorizing and murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up and up. Psych is a sadist that rejects Iris' offer of redemption so he can keep torturing people.

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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like killing a force is killing a person anyways. Especially since they're all introduced as villains terrorizing and callously murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up.

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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but but, for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like killing uncreating a force is killing a person anyways. Especially Stranger still, since they're all introduced as villains callously terrorizing and callously murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up.up and Psych is a sadist that rejects Iris' offer of redemption so he can keep torturing people.



* WhamShot: The Speed Force confronts Deon, performing Thawne's infamous hand motion.

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* WhamShot: The Speed Force confronts Deon, performing Thawne's infamous hand motion.motion.
* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Everyone besides Barry on Team Flash seems to take the SentientCosmicForce to its logical conclusion and argue from the premise that Barry uncreating the other forces is like killing a person. Iris in particular talks like Nora is the person herself instead of just the form the Speed Force assumed.
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* ConflictBall: Barry repeats the point that the Speed Force does not care who gets in its way to kill the other forces, but everyone else on Team Flash expresses doubt that it's not the right thing to do. Barry wants to uncreate them to spare the people they bonded with but for whatever reason, everyone is treating it like killing a force is killing a person anyways. Especially since they're all introduced as villains terrorizing and callously murdering people; Cisco's argument that Deon just wants to be himself comes just after Deon [[AGodAmI proclaims to be a god]], something Barry conspicuously doesn't bring up.
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* TheReveal: It turns out that back in 7x03, Timeless Wells was looking at a future version of himself and Barry trying to prevent the birth of the new Forces.

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* TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode. Kamilla also returns.

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Iris' fear is revealed to be that she won't ever be a better mother than Barry's was.
* BackFromTheDead: Alexa is revived by Barry and Iris when they realize they can jumpstart a Force.
* TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode. Kamilla also returns.returns.
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: With the allegory of Barry and Iris being the Forces' "parents", the attempted act of erasing them could be compared to a couple considering abortion.
* RedemptionRejection: Iris attempts to get through to Psych, only for him to willfully ignore it.
* ShootTheDog: Barry attempts to do this by preventing the Forces from ever being created, but relents after heeding the words of his friends and family.
* WhamShot: The Speed Force confronts Deon, performing Thawne's infamous hand motion.
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* TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode.

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* TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode. Kamilla also returns.
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*TheBusCameBack: Timeless Wells returns in this episode.

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