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JustForFun/TheOneWith a monster bellow provided by the lead of Music/{{Slipknot}}.

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* BigBad: The Fisher King.



* InsignificantBluePlanet: Bennett has come to bury the Fisher King on a "barren, savage outpost". Not the abandoned military base, but Earth.

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* InsignificantBluePlanet: Bennett Prentis has come to bury the Fisher King on a "barren, savage outpost". Not the abandoned military base, but Earth.
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The one with a monster bellow provided by the lead of Music/{{Slipknot}}.

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* ThatPoorCat: If one listens ''very'' closely while [[https://youtu.be/G5wcCPw5FEg?t=126 Cass is feeling for the vibrations of the axe]], you can hear a cat yowl (of all things) right before Moran swings the axe at her.
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* FullCircleRevolution: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]], after the Fisher King’s forces conquered and enslaved the Tivolians, the Arcateenians eventually came and liberated Tivoli, then the Tivolians, not being happy about their new freedom, eventually annoyed the Arcateenians into concurring and enslaving them all over again.
* GenericDoomsdayVillain: The Fisher King never gets any more characterisation than "nasty dude that has invaded one planet and now wants to invade Earth".

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* FullCircleRevolution: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]], after the Fisher King’s forces conquered and enslaved the Tivolians, the Arcateenians eventually came and liberated Tivoli, then the Tivolians, not being happy about their new freedom, eventually annoyed the Arcateenians into concurring conquering and enslaving them all over again.
* GenericDoomsdayVillain: The Fisher King never gets any more characterisation characterization than "nasty dude that has invaded one planet and now wants to invade Earth".
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* AsYouKnow: At the end, the Doctor explains what a StableTimeLoop is to a mind-blown Clara, despite her having been at the center of one or two already (in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]").

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* AsYouKnow: At the end, the Doctor explains what a StableTimeLoop is to a mind-blown Clara, despite her having been at the center centre of one or two already (in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]").



* OurHeroIsDead: The {{Cliffhanger}} of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E3UnderTheLake Under the Lake]]" revealed that the Doctor, in the process of fighting the Fisher King's EvilPlan, became another one of the ghosts haunting the mining base in the future. How can he fulfill this trope and ''not'' actually die without causing a massive paradox?

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* OurHeroIsDead: The {{Cliffhanger}} of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E3UnderTheLake Under the Lake]]" revealed that the Doctor, in the process of fighting the Fisher King's EvilPlan, became another one of the ghosts haunting the mining base in the future. How can he fulfill fulfil this trope and ''not'' actually die without causing a massive paradox?
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* AscendedFangirl: O'Donnell, who showed she was a fangirl last episode, has a little {{Squee}} moment after actually riding in the TARDIS. And she also gets a chance to rather smugly name-drop several of the Doctor's recent companions.

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* AscendedFangirl: O'Donnell, who showed she was a fangirl last episode, has a little {{Squee}} moment after actually riding in the TARDIS. And she also gets a chance to rather smugly name-drop several of the Doctor's recent companions.

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** O'Donnell namechecks Rose, Martha and Amy, and mentions [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E12TheSoundOfDrums Harold Saxon]] and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon the Moon exploding and a big bat coming out]]".

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** O'Donnell namechecks Rose, Martha and Amy, saying that it's hard to imagine them being sick after their first time in the TARDIS like Bennett, and mentions [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E12TheSoundOfDrums Harold Saxon]] and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon the Moon exploding and a big bat coming out]]".
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TRS Cleanup; not enough context to save.


* NotSoDifferent: After Cass and Clara have disagreed completely on whether to go and help Lunn.
-->'''Clara:''' I know that look. I ''do'' that look!... Okay, but we stick together.
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** The Doctor recalls having previously met a Tivolian. Indeed, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex Eleven witnessed their reputed and insidous cowardice courtesy of Gibbis.]]


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* FantasticRacism: Upon meeting Prentis, the Doctor straight up tells the Tivolian that "I've had dealings with your lot before. I can't say I'm a fan."
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Prentis asks the Doctor if he wants to "oppress" him, and says that he has "a number of instruments useful in my oppression". The Doctor's facial expression says it all.

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[labelnote:Click here to see the RadioTimes magazine poster for this episode:]] https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/doctor_who_before_the_flood.jpg ''"That's the thing about knowing you're going to die: You've got nothing left to lose!"'']][[/labelnote]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[labelnote:Click here to see the RadioTimes magazine poster for this episode:]] https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/doctor_who_before_the_flood.jpg ''"That's jpg[softreturn]''"That's the thing about knowing you're going to die: You've got nothing left to lose!"'']][[/labelnote]]

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* FakeTown: The sunken village turns out to have been built as a fake "Russian" village for training spies and military personnel.



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* PotemkinVillage: The sunken village turns out to have been built as a fake "Russian" village for training spies and military personnel.

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* PotemkinVillage: %% FakeTown: The sunken village turns out to have been built as a fake "Russian" village for training spies and military personnel.
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* FullCircleRevolution: [[InvertedTropes Inverted]], after the Fisher King’s forces conquered and enslaved the Tivolians, the Arcateenians eventually came and liberated Tivoli, the Tivolians, not being happy about their new freedom eventually annoyed the Arcateenians into concurring and enslaving them all over again.

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* FullCircleRevolution: [[InvertedTropes [[InvertedTrope Inverted]], after the Fisher King’s forces conquered and enslaved the Tivolians, the Arcateenians eventually came and liberated Tivoli, then the Tivolians, not being happy about their new freedom freedom, eventually annoyed the Arcateenians into concurring and enslaving them all over again.
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* FullCircleRevolution: [[InvertedTropes Inverted]], after the Fisher King’s forces conquered and enslaved the Tivolians, the Arcateenians eventually came and liberated Tivoli, the Tivolians, not being happy about their new freedom eventually annoyed the Arcateenians into concurring and enslaving them all over again.

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The Doctor, Bennett and O'Donnell have gone back to the 1980s to investigate what happened when the spaceship landed, before the lake was created by a dam breaching -- but Clara, Cass and Lunn had to stay behind, because they were cut off from the TARDIS by a flooded corridor. Sitting in the base's cafeteria, they saw a new ghost appear in the lake -- the Doctor.

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The Doctor, Bennett and O'Donnell have gone back to the 1980s to investigate what happened when the spaceship landed, before the lake was created by a dam breaching -- but Clara, Cass and Lunn had to stay behind, because they were cut off from the TARDIS by a flooded corridor. Sitting in the base's cafeteria, they saw a new ghost appear in the lake -- the Doctor.






* PotemkinVillage: The sunken village turns out to have been built as a fake "Russian" village for training spies and military personnel.



** Cass and Lunn, by the end of the episode, become a couple -- with some prodding.

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** Cass and Lunn, by the end of the episode, become a couple -- with some prodding.
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* ArcWord: ''Story''. The Doctor tells the viewer a story in the pre-title sequence to explain the bootstrap paradox, and declares to the Fisher King "This is where your story ends!" in the climax.

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* ArcWord: {{Arc Word|s}}: ''Story''. The Doctor tells the viewer a story in the pre-title sequence to explain the bootstrap paradox, and declares to the Fisher King "This is where your story ends!" in the climax.
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* CreditsGag: The scene before the opening credits ends with the Doctor playing the first notes of [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven's]] Fifth Symphony with an electric guitar. The Doctor's guitar playing continues throughout the credits, comping along with the ''Doctor Who'' theme tune. [[http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/peter-capaldi-plays-electric-guitar-over-doctor-who-opening-credits And it was actually performed by Peter Capaldi himself.]]

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* CreditsGag: The scene before the opening credits ends with the Doctor playing the first notes of [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven's]] Fifth Symphony with an electric guitar. The Doctor's guitar playing guitar-playing continues throughout the credits, comping along with the ''Doctor Who'' theme tune. [[http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/peter-capaldi-plays-electric-guitar-over-doctor-who-opening-credits And it was actually performed by Peter Capaldi himself.]]



* [[SheWillComeForMe He Will Come for Me]]: Invoked by Clara re: the Doctor, though she quickly modifies it to "us" when she remembers there are two other people trapped with her.

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* [[SheWillComeForMe He Will Come for Me]]: Invoked by Clara re: re the Doctor, though she quickly modifies it to "us" when she remembers there are two other people trapped with her.



* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the "bootstrap paradox" anecdote that begins this episode "didn't actually happen" -- Beethoven did exist and the Doctor's met him. A nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, albeit "a bit intense".

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* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the "bootstrap paradox" anecdote that begins this episode "didn't actually happen" -- Beethoven did exist and the Doctor's met him. A nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, arm-wrestle, albeit "a bit intense".
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* TheCameo: Corey Taylor from Music/{{Slipknot}} is the "Roar of the Fisher King."
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** The Arcateenians previously appeared on [[Series/Torchwood Torchwood]].

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** The Arcateenians previously appeared on [[Series/Torchwood [[Series/TorchWood Torchwood]].
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** The Arcateenians previously appeared on [[Series/Torchwood Torchwood]].
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* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the bootstrap paradox (StableTimeLoop) anecdote that began this episode "didn't actually happen" -- in the "real" Whoniverse, Beethoven was a nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, albeit he was "a little intense".\

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* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the bootstrap paradox (StableTimeLoop) "bootstrap paradox" anecdote that began begins this episode "didn't actually happen" -- in the "real" Whoniverse, Beethoven was a did exist and the Doctor's met him. A nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, albeit he was "a little bit intense".\
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* OurGhostsAreDifferent: They're electromagnetic projections of people's souls intended to transmit a signal once there are enough of them.

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* OurGhostsAreDifferent: They're electromagnetic projections of people's souls intended to transmit a signal once there are enough of them. The Doctor, notably, acts as though they are really the souls of the dead, and lambasts the Fisher King for enslaving them. While it's theoretically possible for there to be a more mundane explanation (the Doctor fakes a ghost with a simple hologram, for example), there's no reason for the Fisher King to fake ghosts in such a way. The plot only makes sense if he really is enslaving their souls for his message.
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The one with a monster bellow provided by the lead of ''Music/{{Slipknot}}''.

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The one with a monster bellow provided by the lead of ''Music/{{Slipknot}}''.
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* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the bootstrap paradox (StableTimeLoop) anecdote that began this episode "didn't actually happen" -- in the "real" Whoniverse, Beethoven was a nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, albeit he was "a little intense".

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* YouWillBeBeethoven: The TropeNamer is discussed in length at the beginning -- and at the end -- of the episode. According to the Doctor, the bootstrap paradox (StableTimeLoop) anecdote that began this episode "didn't actually happen" -- in the "real" Whoniverse, Beethoven was a nice bloke who liked to arm wrestle, albeit he was "a little intense".
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* CreditsGag: The scene before the opening credits ends with the Doctor playing the first notes of [[Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven's]] Fifth Symphony with an electric guitar. The Doctor's guitar playing continues throughout the credits, comping along with the ''Doctor Who'' theme tune. [[http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/peter-capaldi-plays-electric-guitar-over-doctor-who-opening-credits And it was actually performed by Peter Capaldi himself.]]

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* CreditsGag: The scene before the opening credits ends with the Doctor playing the first notes of [[Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven's]] Fifth Symphony with an electric guitar. The Doctor's guitar playing continues throughout the credits, comping along with the ''Doctor Who'' theme tune. [[http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/peter-capaldi-plays-electric-guitar-over-doctor-who-opening-credits And it was actually performed by Peter Capaldi himself.]]

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