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'''Number of episodes:''' 4\\
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'''First Doctor Era'''\\
'''Season 2:''' [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E1PlanetOfGiants 1]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E2TheDalekInvasionOfEarth 2]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E3TheRescue 3]] | '''4''' | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E5TheWebPlanet 5]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E6TheCrusade 6]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E7TheSpaceMuseum 7]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E8TheChase 8]] | [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E9TheTimeMeddler 9]]\\
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!The Romans



->Written by Creator/DennisSpooner\\
Directed by Christopher Barry\\
'''Production code:''' M\\
'''Air dates:''' 16 January - 6 February 1965\\
'''Episode titles:''' "The Slave Traders", "All Roads Lead to Rome", "Conspiracy", "Inferno"



'''Production code:''' M




Written by Creator/DennisSpooner. This four-episode serial first aired from January 16 to February 6, 1965.

Episodes: "The Slave Traders", "All Roads Lead to Rome", "Conspiracy", "Inferno".

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-->-- '''Ian'''

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-->-- '''Ian'''
'''Ian Chesterton'''










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-->'''Ian''': Friends, Romans, countrymen! Lend me your ears. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
-->'''Barbara''': Oh boy, that was a mistake.

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-->'''Ian''': -->'''Ian:''' Friends, Romans, countrymen! Lend me your ears. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. \n-->'''Barbara''': \\
'''Barbara:'''
Oh boy, that was a mistake.



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->'''The Doctor:''' Somewhere, somehow, we're being slowly dragged down.\\
'''Ian:''' Dragged down? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E5TheWebPlanet To what?]]
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* PerformerGuise: Combined with MistakenForSpecialGuest when he Doctor is mistaken for a dead lyre player named Maximus Pettulian, and decides to assume his identity after being attacked by an assassin.

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* PerformerGuise: Combined with MistakenForSpecialGuest when he the Doctor is mistaken for a dead lyre player named Maximus Pettulian, and decides to assume his identity after being attacked by an assassin.
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* PerformerGuise: Combined with MistakenForSpecialGuest when he Doctor is mistaken for a dead lyre player named Maximus Pettulian, and decides to assume his identity after being attacked by an assassin.
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Per wick cleanup.


%% * GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.

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-> ''I've got a friend who specialises in trouble. He dives in and usually finds a way.''

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-> ''I've ->''"I've got a friend who specialises in trouble. He dives in and usually finds a way.''"''


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'''Production code:''' M
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* BeardOfSorrow: It's more "Stubble of Sorrow" since it doesn't have much time to grow, but after getting sold into slavery Ian begins growing one. If you ignore the fact that it's born from some of the worst days he has experienced in his travels so far it doesn't look that bad on him.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Pictured shortly before escaping WhileRomeBurns. You [[NiceJobBreakingItHero can't possible blame the Doctor... right...?]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Pictured shortly before escaping WhileRomeBurns. You [[NiceJobBreakingItHero can't possible possibly blame the Doctor... right...?]]]]?]]]]



The one where Vicki nearly kills Nero. Accidentally.

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The JustForFun/{{The one where w|ith}}here Vicki nearly kills Nero. Accidentally.
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Episodes: "The Slave Traders", "All Roads Lead to Rome", "Conspiracy", "Inferno".
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* ArtisticLicenceReligion[=/=][[ArtisticLicenseHistory History]]: Tavius is shown clutching a cross pendant, indicating that he is a Christian. However, at the time of Nero, Christians would have used the ichthys (stylised fish) as a symbol. The cross, reminiscent of Jesus' torture and death, would have been viewed negatively by early Christians. On the other hand, very few viewers (especially children) would likely have recognised the symbol in 1965, as it was before the modern popular revival that took place during the 70s and 80s.

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* ArtisticLicenceReligion[=/=][[ArtisticLicenseHistory History]]: ArtisticLicenceHistory: Tavius is shown clutching a cross pendant, indicating that he is a Christian. However, at the time of Nero, Christians would have used the ichthys (stylised fish) as a symbol. The cross, reminiscent of Jesus' torture and death, would have been viewed negatively by early Christians. On the other hand, very few viewers (especially children) would likely have recognised the symbol in 1965, as it was before the modern popular revival that took place during the 70s and 80s.
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Written by Dennis Spooner. This four-episode serial first aired from January 16 to February 6, 1965.

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Written by Dennis Spooner.Creator/DennisSpooner. This four-episode serial first aired from January 16 to February 6, 1965.
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* NoodleIncident: The Doctor recalls a couple: not only has he been to Rome before (an ad-lib by Creator/WilliamHartnell) but he also claims he trained the "Mountain Mauler of Montana" (presumably a famous boxer or wrestler).

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* NoodleIncident: The Doctor recalls a couple: not only has he been to Rome before (an ad-lib by Creator/WilliamHartnell) but he also claims he trained the "Mountain Mauler of Montana" (presumably a famous boxer or wrestler).wrestler, and implied to be beyond Vicki's home time period of the late 25th century).
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* ArtisticLicenceReligion[=/=][[ArtisticLicenseHistory History]]: Tavius is shown clutching a cross pendant, indicating that he is a Christian. However, at the time of Nero, Christians would have used the ichthys (stylised fish) as a symbol. The cross, reminiscent of Jesus' torture and death, would have been viewed negatively by early Christians. On the other hand, very few viewers (especially children) are going to recognise the ichthys.

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* ArtisticLicenceReligion[=/=][[ArtisticLicenseHistory History]]: Tavius is shown clutching a cross pendant, indicating that he is a Christian. However, at the time of Nero, Christians would have used the ichthys (stylised fish) as a symbol. The cross, reminiscent of Jesus' torture and death, would have been viewed negatively by early Christians. On the other hand, very few viewers (especially children) are going to recognise would likely have recognised the ichthys.symbol in 1965, as it was before the modern popular revival that took place during the 70s and 80s.
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Written by Dennis Spooner. This serial first aired January 16-February 6, 1965.

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Written by Dennis Spooner. This four-episode serial first aired from January 16-February 16 to February 6, 1965.
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Written by Dennis Spooner. This serial first aired January 16, 1965.

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Written by Dennis Spooner. This serial first aired January 16, 16-February 6, 1965.
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Written by Dennis Spooner. This serial first aired January 16, 1965.

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* YouHaveFailedMe: The Emperor’s wife has MasterPoisoner Locusta poison a goblet to get rid of Barbara, who she sees as a home-wrecker. But after a PoisonedChaliceSwitcheroo results in a random servant dying, Locusta is thrown to the lions by the Empress.

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* BreatherEpisode: Compared to the two preceding serials, ''The Romans'' is [[ToneShift presented more like a farce]] than a drama, with slapstick fight scenes, sharp dialogue and much mistaking of identity. This odd-seeming choice was made to increase the dramatic range of the series.

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* BreatherEpisode: ''The Romans'' was deliberately written to be the show's first comedic story, specifically parodying the 1951 film adaptation of ''Literature/QuoVadis''. Compared to the two preceding serials, ''The Romans'' is it's [[ToneShift presented more like a farce]] than a drama, with slapstick fight scenes, sharp dialogue and much mistaking of identity. This odd-seeming choice was made to increase the dramatic range of the series.



* InsertDouble: Extra Albert Ward served as a double for Creator/WilliamHartnell's hands.


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* ParodyEpisode: The serial was written with the intent of lampooning the 1951 film adaptation of ''Literature/QuoVadis''.

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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}, Poppaea, Locusta, ...

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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}, Poppaea, Locusta, ...Locusta...
* InsertDouble: Extra Albert Ward served as a double for Creator/WilliamHartnell's hands.
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* BlackComedyRape: Emperor Nero's repeated attempts to rape Barbara, and then his attempts to blame Barbara for it whenever his wife calls him out on it. A lot of this is an attempt to deal with DeliberateValuesDissonance - the historical Emperor Nero certainly was a rapist - in a way that isn't absolutely traumatic to the family audience, but special mention must be given to a [[SocietyMarchesOn particularly dated]] scene where the Doctor sees Nero running after the screaming and traumatised Barbara, smiles, and affectionately remarks "What an extraordinary fellow."

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* BlackComedyRape: Emperor Nero's repeated attempts to rape Barbara, and then his attempts to blame Barbara for it whenever his wife calls him out on it. A lot of this is an attempt to deal with DeliberateValuesDissonance - the historical Emperor Nero certainly was a rapist - in a way that isn't absolutely traumatic to the family audience, but special mention must be given to a [[SocietyMarchesOn particularly dated]] dated scene where the Doctor sees Nero running after the screaming and traumatised Barbara, smiles, and affectionately remarks "What an extraordinary fellow."

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* MadeASlave: Ian and Barbara

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* MadeASlave: MadeASlave: Barbara is overheard loudly talking about how she and the rest of her companions are from Britannia. Not too soon afterwards, she and Ian are kidnapped and Barbara[[MadeASlave sold into slavery.]] While being British was advantageous in the 1960s, in the time of Pax Romana, not so much!



* RealityEnsues: Barbara is overheard loudly talking about how she and the rest of her companions are from Britannia. Not too soon afterwards, she and Ian are kidnapped and [[MadeASlave sold into slavery.]] While being British was advantageous in the 1960s, in the time of Pax Romana, not so much!
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* AnachronismStew: The map of Rome that the Doctor examines in Nero's palace clearly shows the city ringed by the Aurelian Walls which weren't built until the late 3rd Century.
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* BigBad: Emperor Nero.

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