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* DontYouDarePityMe: Pierce, even after he stumbles into a set of drums after hurting his leg. "Don't help me!"

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* DontYouDarePityMe: Pierce, after finding out Britta was pretending to be hypnotized because she felt sorry for him, even after he stumbles into a set of drums after hurting his leg. "Don't "Do not help me!"me up!"



* GlassesPull: The opposition debate team captain at the end of his first speech. "Man is inherently... good".

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* GlassesPull: The Simmons, the opposition debate team captain at the end of his first speech.speech on the second day of the debates. "Man is inherently... good".



* {{Hypocrite}}: Jeremy Simmons, the opposing debate team captain arguing that "Man is inherently... good" is a colossal douche who starts mocking Annie over her pill addiction & resorts to the above mentioned BatmanGambit when he realises he can't win the debate by actually, y'know, ''debating''.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Jeremy Simmons, the opposing debate team captain arguing that "Man is inherently... good" is a colossal douche who starts mocking Annie over her pill addiction & resorts to the above mentioned BatmanGambit when he realises realizes he can't win the debate by actually, y'know, with the actual act of ''debating''.



-->'''Jeff:''' It's like a great duet or great se- ... Professor Whitman!

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-->'''Jeff:''' It's like a great duet or great se- ... Hey, Professor Whitman!



* RagingStiffie: Implied to be the reason Jeff does not return for his phone after he pats Annie on her head.

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* RagingStiffie: Implied to be the reason Jeff does not return for his phone after he pats Annie on her head.head in the study room.



* SeriousBusiness: Debate

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* SeriousBusiness: DebateThe Greendale/City College Debate is treated as such, with the team and school leadership looking for any win, while the stands are packed with City College students.
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* TechnicianPerformerTeamUp: Jeff joins the school debate team and quickly proves to be the "performer", falling back on his charismatic lawyer persona to captivate the audience... but his lack of knowledge on the debate topics falls flat with the judges. Annie, meanwhile, is the "technician" who knows the facts and the rules of competitive debate, but fails to make much impact due to her stilted, robotic delivery. To ultimately win, they have to put their strengths together to sell their factually based argument ''and'' captivate the listeners.

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* ShoutOut: Jeff attempts to sway the crowd during the first round of debates by leading them in a performance of Music/ElectricLightOrchestra's "Evil Woman". It doesn't work.



* {{Squick}}: Invoked by Pierce - After realising Britta was merely pretending to be under a trance during their hypnotherapy sessions, he begins "abusing" his power in a deliberate attempt to get Britta to come clean by telling her that she would suddenly find herself attracted to him & willing to have a threesome in his hottub.

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* {{Squick}}: Invoked by Pierce - After -- after realising Britta was merely pretending to be under a trance during their hypnotherapy sessions, he begins "abusing" his power in a deliberate attempt to get Britta to come clean by telling her that she would suddenly find herself attracted to him & willing to have a threesome in his hottub.hot tub.
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* MythologyGag: Possibly with the actor playing Jeff in Abed's Community College Chronicles. According to Wiki/TheOtherWiki, ''Community'' is based on Creator/DanHarmon's own experiences at community college, and Jeff Winger is [[AuthorAvatar based on a younger version of himself]]. Jeff Short (Abed's Film!Jeff) actually physically resembles Harmon.

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* MythologyGag: Possibly with the actor playing Jeff in Abed's Community College Chronicles. According to Wiki/TheOtherWiki, Website/TheOtherWiki, ''Community'' is based on Creator/DanHarmon's own experiences at community college, and Jeff Winger is [[AuthorAvatar based on a younger version of himself]]. Jeff Short (Abed's Film!Jeff) actually physically resembles Harmon.
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* GeniusBonus: Did you know Franz Wickmeyer ''does not exist''? Simmons made him up! He made up a whole person to give a vague "great German philosopher" weight to his own, to be fair, beautiful poetical sentiment about the snow being stained by touching the earth. And nobody, not even the ''viewers'', called him on it until like ten years after the show aired.
** There was ''a'' Franz Wickmeyer, but he was an Austrian man known for being extremely tall (about eight and a half feet). Not a philosopher.
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* CourtroomAntic: Jeff's go-to strategy fails him when he uses it in Debate and his team loses the first round, 50-8 (and the 8 were to Annie).

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* BatmanGambit: The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and launching himself in the air at Jeff. It's a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:

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* BatmanGambit: BatmanGambit:
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The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and launching himself in the air at Jeff. It's a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:


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** Annie follows it up by planting a smooch on Jeff, distracting him into dropping their opponent onto the ground, allowing Annie to prove that Man is evil.


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* ForcefulKiss: Annie plants one on Jeff as he is holding up Simmons, causing Jeff to drop him and reciprocate.
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** There was ''a'' Franz Wickmeyer, but he was an Austrian man known for being extremely tall (about eight and a half feet). Not a philosopher.
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* GeniusBonus: Did you know Franz Wickmeyer ''does not exist''? Simmons made him up! He made up a whole person to give a vague "great German philosopher" weight to his own, to be fair, beautiful poetical sentiment about the snow being stained by touching the earth. And nobody, not even the ''viewers'', called him on it until like ten years after the show aired.
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* WrongGenreSavvy: Jeff's confidence about his debating skills proves misplaced, succinctly described in the image caption above.
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* AbsenteeActor: Ken Jeong as Chang
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* HaveAGayOldTime: The dean tells Jeff that "Gay" is the closest thing Greendale's basketball team has to a compliment.
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* BatmanGambit: The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and launching himself in the air at Jeff. Its a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:

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* BatmanGambit: The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and launching himself in the air at Jeff. Its It's a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:
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* BatmanGambit: The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and [[spoiler:launching himself in the air at Jeff. Its a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him]]. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:

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* BatmanGambit: The wheelchair-bound captain of the opponent debate team tearing up his cards and [[spoiler:launching launching himself in the air at Jeff. Its a huge risk, as he could hurt himself badly, but he knows that he will get the crucial proof to his argument as Jeff will instinctively catch him]].him. Needless to say, when asked what this is, Abed tells Shirley:



* CourtroomAntic: Jeff's go-to strategy fails him when he uses it in Debate and [[spoiler:his team loses the first round, 50-8 (and the 8 were to Annie)]].

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* CourtroomAntic: Jeff's go-to strategy fails him when he uses it in Debate and [[spoiler:his his team loses the first round, 50-8 (and the 8 were to Annie)]].Annie).



* {{Jerkass}}: While a charismatic debater, Jeremy "Soulpatch" Simmons is an arrogant bully. [[spoiler:Which is why, despite him being handicapped, it's funny when Jeff ends up dropping him on his face at the climax of the debate.]]

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* {{Jerkass}}: While a charismatic debater, Jeremy "Soulpatch" Simmons is an arrogant bully. [[spoiler:Which Which is why, despite him being handicapped, it's funny when Jeff ends up dropping him on his face at the climax of the debate.]]



* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Shirley comes in to tell Jeff and Annie about the crazy idea Abed had that they would kiss. This leaves them awkwardly confronting their sexual tension with each other [[spoiler:and presumably gives Annie the inspiration to lay one on Jeff during the debate to defeat Simmons' gambit.]]

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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Shirley comes in to tell Jeff and Annie about the crazy idea Abed had that they would kiss. This leaves them awkwardly confronting their sexual tension with each other [[spoiler:and and presumably gives Annie the inspiration to lay one on Jeff during the debate to defeat Simmons' gambit.]]



* XanatosSpeedChess: The above BatmanGambit is thwarted [[spoiler:when Annie passionately kisses Jeff, causing him to drop Simmons.]]

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* XanatosSpeedChess: The above BatmanGambit is thwarted [[spoiler:when when Annie passionately kisses Jeff, causing him to drop Simmons.]]
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* AbsenteeActor: Ken Jeong as Chang
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* GangOfBullies: The members of the City College debate team consist of one wheelchair-bound lead bully and several mooks who he can order around to do things like kick a trashcan for emphasis during his taunting. That might be ''all'' they do, since unlike the Greendale squad nobody ever seems to take a turn at the debate lectern on the City College side apart from their leader...
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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Referenced to by Jeff in his debate speech.

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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Referenced Referred to by Jeff in his debate speech.
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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff in his debate speech.

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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed Referenced to by Jeff in his debate speech.



* YouRemindMeOfX: Jeff reminds Professor Whitman of himself, but with slightly worst hair.

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* YouRemindMeOfX: Jeff reminds Professor Whitman of himself, but with slightly worst worse hair.
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* IMinoredInTropology: A RunningGag for Pierce. In this episode he claims to have minored in psychotherapy and offers his help to Britta who wants to quit smoking.
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* BrickJoke: The Dean makes a quick reference to the school's reputation being weakened by the men's basketball team, which everyone assumes is filled with gay men. Later in the episode, the basketball team shows up to use the gym - all of them mustachioed, in ripped shirts and short shorts, and speaking with a slightly flamboyant lisp.

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* BrickJoke: The Dean makes a quick reference to says that the school's reputation being weakened by the men's best compliment Greendale's athletic program receives is that its basketball team, which everyone assumes team is filled with gay men.really gay. Later in the episode, the basketball team shows up to use the gym - all of them mustachioed, in ripped shirts and short shorts, and speaking with a slightly flamboyant lisp.
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* LettingHerHairDown: Annie wears her hair tied back most of the time which makes her seem sweet and adorable. When she lets her hair fall down her face in front of Jeff, she goes from being cute to '''smokin' hot''' in both his and the viewers eyes. This might also be because just after she lets her hair down, she shows off some surprising cleavage for the first time.

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* LettingHerHairDown: Annie wears her hair tied back most of the time which makes her seem sweet and adorable. When she lets her hair fall down her face in front of Jeff, she goes from being cute to '''smokin' hot''' in both his and the viewers viewers' eyes. This might also be because just after she lets her hair down, she shows off some surprising cleavage for the first time.



* RagingStiffie: Implied to be the reason Jeff does not return for his phone after he pats Annie on Thebes head.

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* RagingStiffie: Implied to be the reason Jeff does not return for his phone after he pats Annie on Thebes her head.
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* RagingStiffie: Implied to be the reason Jeff does not return for his phone after he pats Annie on Thebes head.
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* LettingHerHairDown: She wears her hair tied back most of the time which makes her seem sweet and adorable. When she lets her hair fall down her face in front of Jeff, she goes from being cute to '''smokin' hot''' in both his and the viewers eyes. This might also be because just after she lets her hair down, she shows off some surprising cleavage for the first time.

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* LettingHerHairDown: She Annie wears her hair tied back most of the time which makes her seem sweet and adorable. When she lets her hair fall down her face in front of Jeff, she goes from being cute to '''smokin' hot''' in both his and the viewers eyes. This might also be because just after she lets her hair down, she shows off some surprising cleavage for the first time.
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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff in his debate speech. That said, the experiment has long been been debunked.

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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff in his debate speech. That said, the experiment has long been been debunked.

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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff in his debate speech. That said, the experiment has long been been debunked.


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* StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff in his debate speech. That said, the experiment has long been been debunked.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: In the debate, Jeff refers to the StanfordPrisonExperiment... which has since been debunked.

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* ScienceMarchesOn: In the debate, StanfordPrisonExperiment: Refereed to by Jeff refers to in his debate speech. That said, the StanfordPrisonExperiment... which experiment has since long been been debunked.

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