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* AssholeVictim: Captain Turner, given how he tried to break Kreese psychologically by telling him that Betsy had died. Even as he begs for his life at the end, Kreese stomping on his hand feels as much like KickTheSonOfABitch as it does StartOfDarkness.

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* AssholeVictim: Captain Turner, given how he tried to break Kreese psychologically by telling him that Betsy had died. Even as he begs for his life at the end, Kreese stomping on his hand feels as much like KickTheSonOfABitch as it does StartOfDarkness.deserved.
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** Kreese insisted all season that Johnny ought to return to the old Cobra Kai ethos of "Strike First, Strike Hard, and No Mercy", and then...Johnny does exactly that when he's pummeling the crap out of him. He barges into Cobra Kai and starts the fight with Kreese, therefore "striking first", Johnny hits hard with every single strike he directs against Kreese, therefore "striking hard", and it's clear when you look at Johnny's face while he's endlessly wailing on Kreese's face that mercy was the last thing on his mind. Had it not been for Robby intervening, Johnny may very well have beaten Kreese to death right there and then. And then Daniel does the same thing. He "strikes first" by kicking Kreese to break his chokehold on Johnny, "strikes hard" by not holding back either and "no mercy" when he has Kreese immobilized, the look on Daniel's face shows that unlike when Mr. Miyagi had Kreese in this position 34 years ago, mercy is far from Daniel's mind after Kreese's students invaded his house and assaulted his daughter and it's clear that Daniel would've murdered Kreese if his daughter and Miguel didn't show up with the former calling out to him.

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* OnceMoreWithClarity: With a surprise shot of Daniel and Ali embracing at Encino Oaks Country Club ending the previous episode, this episode we see exactly how they ran into each other and what they were talking about seconds before Johnny arrives.

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** Ali recounts the story of the breakup with more context. She ran into a friend at UCLA, and Daniel, being the hothead he is, got the wrong idea. Ali admits to egging him on due to being angry at him, and the fight ended the relationship. It's also revealed why Ali refused to pay for damages for crashing Daniel's car: the accident wasn't her fault. The brakes on the 40-year-old car gave out while she was driving it, and she even warned Daniel that might happen, but he ignored her warnings.
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* AllegianceAffirmation: [[spoiler:Robby Keene]] shows their loyalty to Cobra Kai by [[spoiler: [[MoralEventHorizon attacking Johnny, his own father, after the latter nearly kills John Kreese]]]]; and then telling them[[spoiler:, as well as Samantha (his ex-girlfriend), Miguel and Daniel (who he used to see as a father)]] to GetOut of the Cobra Kai Dojo [[spoiler:[[FaceHeelTurn while he returns to Kreese's side to train for the next All-Valley]]]].
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** Daniel helped Sam recover her confidence with staff training. She recovers from her fear of Tory by grabbing a staff to go against [[FightingWithChucks her nunchucks]].

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** Daniel helped Sam recover her confidence with staff training. She recovers from her fear of Tory by grabbing a staff to go against [[FightingWithChucks her nunchucks]].nunchucks.
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* {{Revision}}: The circumstances of Daniel and Ali's breakup are retconned in such a way that it doesn't contradict ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'': the story about Ali dumping him for another guy was Daniel reading way too much into her conversation with an old friend, and the story he told Mr. Miyagi about the damage to the car was a total fabrication on Daniel's part to avoid admitting that he didn't listen to Ali's warnings about the brakes on the car being bad. The fact that the previous version of events was only [[UnreliableNarrator told to the audience second hand via Daniel]] makes the retcon easier.

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* {{Revision}}: The circumstances of Daniel and Ali's breakup are retconned in such a way that it doesn't contradict ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'': the story about Ali dumping him for another guy was Daniel reading way too much into her conversation with an old friend, and the story he told Mr. Miyagi about the damage to the car was a total fabrication on Daniel's part to avoid admitting that he didn't listen to Ali's warnings about the brakes on the car being bad. The fact that the previous version of events was only [[UnreliableNarrator [[UnreliableExpositor told to the audience second hand via Daniel]] makes the retcon easier.

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* BaitAndSwitch: After their fight, Kreese suggests they "settle things the old fashioned way". Daniel looks at him like, "I thought we just did", before Kreese clarifies that he means by tournament.



** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented herself to him way back in [[Film/TheKarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].

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** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented introduced herself to him way back in [[Film/TheKarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].


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* PlotParallel:
** While Ali is meeting up with her high school exes and the wife of one of them, Tory is attacking Sam over jealousy that both the boys she finds interesting have shown more interest in Sam.
** The Vietnam flashback has Kreese kill a man who was just trying to kill him, while in the present-day Kreese tries to kill Johnny, who attacked him and at least considered stabbing him with a sai.
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* ShoutOut: Daniel sees Johnny wearing a white suit and calls him Film/{{Scarface}}.
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* BattleCouple: Sam and Miguel.

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* BattleCouple: Downplayed with Sam and Miguel.Miguel. They make an ass-kicking pose together at the start of the home invasion, but ultimately fight separately against Tory and Kyler respectively.

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* DramaPreservingHandicap: Miguel takes some of the worse injuries of just about anyone in the home fight [[DentedIron due to his previous injuries]], but he still manages to rebound and beat Kyler. It's pretty clear that the fight would have been a lot more one-sided if Miguel was at full strength.



* MenOfSherwood: A villainous example. Despite there being far more named characters on the Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang side of the house brawl, the unnamed (or [[AllThereInTheScript only named by the credits]]) members of Cobra Kai are more than capable of holding their own against them, with one {{Mook}} even being seen fighting off Bert and Nathaniel simultaneously with no assistance. In fact, before Hawk switches sides, Cobra Kai seems to be on their way to a [[CurbStompBattle decisive victory]], although this is somewhat justified by the fact that [[TheAce Miguel]] wasn't able to be of much help to the good guys as he was [[WorfHadTheFlu still recovering from his paralysis]], while Sam's PTSD kicked in and Tory chased her out the house for a one-on-one fight to keep her away from the others.

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* MenOfSherwood: A villainous example. Despite there being far more named characters on the Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang side of the house brawl, the unnamed (or [[AllThereInTheScript only named by the credits]]) members of Cobra Kai are more than capable of holding their own against them, with one {{Mook}} even being seen fighting off Bert and Nathaniel simultaneously with no assistance. In fact, before Hawk switches sides, Cobra Kai seems to be on their way to a [[CurbStompBattle decisive victory]], although this is somewhat justified by the fact that [[TheAce Miguel]] wasn't able to be of much help to the good guys as he was [[WorfHadTheFlu [[DramaPreservingHandicap still recovering from his paralysis]], while Sam's PTSD kicked in and Tory chased her out the house for a one-on-one fight to keep her away from the others.



* WorfHadTheFlu: Miguel takes some of the worse injuries of just about anyone in the home fight [[DentedIron due to his previous injuries]], but he still manages to rebound and beat Kyler.
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* WrittenInAbsence: Daniel mentions that Anthony is at a sleepover, making him conveniently absent for the home invasion.
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* NotImportantToThisEpisodeCamp: Daniel mentions that Anthony is at a sleepover, making him conveniently absent for the home invasion.

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* KarmaHoudini: Zig-zagged. Johnny and Daniel both get to pound on Kreese as comeuppance for all his bullshit this season... but Kreese and the Cobra Kai dojo remain, agreeing to stop his hostilities only if Cobra Kai loses in the upcoming All-Valley Tournament. Also, as with the school brawl in season 2, we'll have to wait until next season to learn what, if any, legal consequences everyone is going to face for all the violence ''this'' time.

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* KarmaHoudini: Zig-zagged. Johnny and Daniel both get to pound on Kreese as comeuppance for all his bullshit this season... but Kreese and the Cobra Kai dojo remain, agreeing to stop his hostilities only if Cobra Kai loses in the upcoming All-Valley Tournament. Also, as with the school brawl in season 2, we'll have to wait until next season to learn what, if any, Season 4 also reveals that there are no legal consequences everyone is going to face for all ''anyone'' as a result of the violence ''this'' time.house fight or the brawl with Kreese.


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** Season 4's opener reveals that Daniel didn't bother calling the cops, as Sam didn't want to drag her ordeal out and [=LaRusso=] Auto can't afford any more bad publicity. So the house fight ends up being KarmaHoudini (for Tory and crew) rather than this trope.
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Elsewhere in the house, Cobra Kai is gaining the upper hand. After taking Miguel down once more, Kyler celebrates with Hawk, but this causes the latter to have second thoughts, as Kyler is his former tormentor while all the people they're beating on -- Bert, Mitch, Demetri, and Miguel -- were once his friends. As Hawk surveys the battleground, both Johnny and Kreese's words echo inside his head. At the same time, the Cobras restrain Demetri for Hawk to attack. His decision made, Hawk sprints toward his helpless target but veers at the last second, instead attacking his fellow Cobra Kai to free Demetri. He then apologizes to Demetri, and their back-to-back teamwork turns the tide of battle. Now severely beaten by Kyler, Miguel seems to be overmatched by his former bully, but gains a second wind due to Kyler's taunting and quickly defeats him with a takedown counterattack.

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Elsewhere in the house, Cobra Kai is gaining the upper hand. After taking Miguel down once more, Kyler celebrates with Hawk, but this causes the latter to have second thoughts, as Kyler is his former tormentor while all the people they're beating on -- Bert, Mitch, Demetri, and Miguel -- were once his friends. As Hawk surveys the battleground, both Johnny and Kreese's words echo inside his head. At the same time, the Cobras restrain Demetri for Hawk to attack. His decision made, Hawk sprints toward his helpless target but veers at the last second, instead attacking his fellow Cobra Kai to free Demetri. He then apologizes to Demetri, and their back-to-back teamwork turns the tide of battle. Now severely beaten by Kyler, Miguel seems to be overmatched by his former bully, but bully. As Johnny's encouraging words echo in his mind, he gains a second wind due to Kyler's taunting and quickly defeats him Kyler with a takedown counterattack.
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In North Vietnam in 1969, John Kreese and his fellow Green Berets are prisoners of war. Their captors force the men to fight each other to the death two at a time on a narrow bridge suspended over a snake pit. Although his panicked squad mate Twig blames himself for their predicament, Kreese insists that the fault is his own. He defers to Captain Turner for leadership, but the captain states that rank is irrelevant - it is now every man for himself.

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In North Vietnam in 1969, John Kreese and his fellow Green Berets are prisoners of war. Their captors force the men to fight each other to the death two at a time on a narrow bridge suspended over a snake pit. Although his panicked squad mate Twig blames himself for their predicament, Kreese insists that the fault is his own. He defers to Captain Turner for leadership, but the captain states that rank is irrelevant - -- it is now every man for himself.
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In North Vietnam in 1969, John Kreese and his fellow Green Berets are prisoners of war. Their captors force the men to fight each other to the death two at a time on a narrow bridge suspended over a snake pit. Although his panicked squad mate Twig blames himself for their predicament, Kreese insists that the fault is his own. He defers to Captain Turner for leadership, but the captain states that rank is irrelevant; it is now every man for himself.

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In North Vietnam in 1969, John Kreese and his fellow Green Berets are prisoners of war. Their captors force the men to fight each other to the death two at a time on a narrow bridge suspended over a snake pit. Although his panicked squad mate Twig blames himself for their predicament, Kreese insists that the fault is his own. He defers to Captain Turner for leadership, but the captain states that rank is irrelevant; irrelevant - it is now every man for himself.



The next day, Kreese recalls freeing his imprisoned squad mates, with Twig -- now revealed to be Terry Silver -- swearing a life debt to him. He picks up the phone and calls up Silver for the first time in decades.

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The next day, Kreese recalls freeing his imprisoned squad mates, with Twig -- now revealed to be Terry Silver -- swearing a life debt to him. He picks up the phone and calls up Silver for the first time in decades.
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* IdiotBall: Sam not immediately telling Bert she doesn't have a cat. Even if she thought it was a stray cat, strays can carry rabies, fleas, or other medical issues that can make it a bad idea to approach them.

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* IdiotBall: Sam not immediately telling Bert she doesn't have a cat. Even if she thought it was a stray cat, strays can carry rabies, fleas, or other medical issues that can make it a bad idea to approach them.them (in fairness, given how quickly Bert got up, it's possible she didn't have a chance).
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** It's not made clear whether the Cobra Kai students invaded the [=LaRusso=] house on Kreese's orders or it was something Tory decided to do herself based on what Kreese told her about Sam and Miguel's alliance.

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** It's not made clear whether the Cobra Kai students invaded the [=LaRusso=] house on Kreese's orders or it was something Tory decided to do herself based on what Kreese told her about Sam and Miguel's alliance.alliance (that being said, Kreese being the ManipulativeBastard that he is, it's entirely probable that he didn't have to give an order).

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Captain Turner belittles Kreese for failing to grasp his SocialDarwinist, kill or be killed teachings when in the POW camp. During the death battle staged by their captors, which ends right as the camp is being liberated, Kreese internalizes this lesson and kills Turner.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: HoistByHisOwnPetard:
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Captain Turner belittles Kreese for failing to grasp his SocialDarwinist, kill or be killed teachings when in the POW camp. During the death battle staged by their captors, which ends right as the camp is being liberated, Kreese internalizes this lesson and kills Turner.Turner.
** Doug offers a "free shot" to Hawk by putting Demetri in a deadlock. Hawk does, but towards Doug instead.
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* WhamEpisode: The climax of Season 3 culminates into an all-out fight between Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang, followed by an assault on Kreese himself by Johnny and Daniel.

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* WhamEpisode: The climax of Season 3 culminates into an all-out fight between Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang, followed by an assault on Kreese himself by Johnny and Daniel.Daniel. This ends with Daniel and Johnny finally working together (by merging dojos), Robby fully aligned with Cobra Kai as Kreese's top student, and Kreese giving a phone call to Silver.

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* AmbiguousSituation: It's not made clear whether the Cobra Kai students invaded the [=LaRusso=] house on Kreese's orders or it was something Tory decided to do herself based on what Kreese told her about Sam and Miguel's alliance.

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** It's also not made clear as to how the Cobra Kais were able to find out that the Miyagi-Dos and Eagle Fangs were meeting at the [=LaRusso=] house. Unless someone like Hawk, Tory, and/or Kyler assumed they were going to meet there, a Cobra Kai spied on either Miguel and the Eagle Fangs (or Sam and the Miyagi-Dos) planning out their meeting, or there's a mole hidden in one of the two dojos.
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** With much of the series highlighting the many similarities between Daniel and Johnny, Ali is the first one to vocalize it and helps them understand their own bias when it comes to their rivalry.

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** With much of the series highlighting the many similarities between Daniel and Johnny, Ali is the first one to vocalize it and [[JerkassRealization helps them understand their own bias bias]] when it comes to their rivalry.
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The next day, Kreese recalls freeing his imprisoned squad mates, with Terry Silver swearing a life debt to him. He picks up the phone and calls up Silver for the first time in decades.

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The next day, Kreese recalls freeing his imprisoned squad mates, with Twig -- now revealed to be Terry Silver -- swearing a life debt to him. He picks up the phone and calls up Silver for the first time in decades.
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* KarmaHoudini: Zig-zagged. Johnny and Daniel both get to pound on Kreese as comeuppance for his students attacking the Miyagi-Dos and Eagle Fangs... but he and the Cobra Kai dojo remain, agreeing to stop his hostilities only if Cobra Kai loses in the upcoming All-Valley Tournament. Also, as with the school brawl in season 2, we'll have to wait until next season to learn what, if any, legal consequences everyone is going to face for all the violence ''this'' time.

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* KarmaHoudini: Zig-zagged. Johnny and Daniel both get to pound on Kreese as comeuppance for all his students attacking the Miyagi-Dos and Eagle Fangs... bullshit this season... but he Kreese and the Cobra Kai dojo remain, agreeing to stop his hostilities only if Cobra Kai loses in the upcoming All-Valley Tournament. Also, as with the school brawl in season 2, we'll have to wait until next season to learn what, if any, legal consequences everyone is going to face for all the violence ''this'' time.
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** After the Christmas party Johnny is prepared to talk with Carmen about their relationship, but when he knocks on the door Carmen opens to show him a badly battered Miguel.

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** After the Christmas party Johnny is prepared eager to talk with Carmen about their relationship, confess his love to Carmen, but when he knocks on the door Carmen opens to show him a badly battered Miguel.

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* WhamLine: Shortly after Kreese's confrontation with Daniel and Johnny, he phones Silver to enlist his help for the first time in decades.

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* WhamLine: Shortly after Kreese's confrontation with Daniel and Johnny, he phones Silver to enlist his help for the first time in decades. See also WhamShot.


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** Kreese looking at an old war photo of himself, Ponytail, and Silver, followed by a phone call with the latter.
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** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented herself to him way back in the [[Film/TheKarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].

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** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented herself to him way back in the [[Film/TheKarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].
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** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented herself to him way back in the [[Film/KarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].

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** Ali jokingly calls Daniel "Daniel with an L", the same way she presented herself to him way back in the [[Film/KarateKid1984 [[Film/TheKarateKid1984 the original movie]], and Tory presented herself to the Cobra Kai dojo [[Recap/CobraKaiS2E4TheMomentOfTruth back in the 2nd season]].

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