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* RealityEnsues:
** Even if Oliver and the other inmates are being abused and subjected to torture at Slabside, it's still not enough for his conviction to be overturned; but the judge agrees to launch an investigation into the prison anyway.
** All the crimes Black Siren committed aren't simply forgotten by Oliver and his friends, and she is still being mistrusted by most of the group as a result.
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** And while Oliver presumably plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make a plea deal requiring the FBI to catch another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.

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** And while Oliver presumably plead pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make a plea deal requiring the FBI to catch another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.
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** The prisoner abuse would probably entitle Oliver to monetary damages, since Felicity is correct that his Constitutional rights were violated (specifically his right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment), but not release.

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** The prisoner abuse would probably entitle Oliver to monetary damages, damages and/or transfer to another facility, since Felicity is correct that his Constitutional rights were violated (specifically his right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment), but not release.
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** And while Oliver presumably plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make a plea deal in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.

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** And while Oliver presumably plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make a plea deal in exchange for requiring the FBI catching to catch another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.
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** And while Oliver presumably made a plea deal with the FBI to plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make such a deal in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.

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** And while Oliver presumably made a plea deal with the FBI to plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make such a plea deal in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction and incarceration.
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** And there's no way to make a "deal" with the FBI to go to prison for a crime in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Oliver presumably pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law, and guilty pleas just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction.

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** And while Oliver presumably made a plea deal with the FBI to plead guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law in exchange for the charges against the rest of Team Arrow being dropped, there's no way to make such a "deal" with the FBI to go to prison for a crime deal in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Oliver presumably pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law, and guilty pleas Plea deals just don't work that way, so the FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction.conviction and incarceration.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel losing her first attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside is RightForTheWrongReasons, because the case should probably have been dismissed without a hearing, instead of actually getting a ruling. She argues that Oliver should be released because of the abuse he suffered at Slabside and the FBI's failure to catch Diaz, but neither of these actually provide grounds for his release:

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel losing her first attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside is RightForTheWrongReasons, because the case should probably have been dismissed without a hearing, instead of actually getting a ruling. She argues that Oliver should be released because of the abuse he suffered at Slabside and the FBI's failure to catch Diaz, but neither of these actually provide grounds for his release:are legal reasons to release him:



** And the FBI failing to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction, since he (presumably) pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law, and there's no way for a guilty plea to be conditioned on the FBI catching another criminal.

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** And there's no way to make a "deal" with the FBI failing to catch Diaz is irrelevant go to Oliver's conviction, since he (presumably) prison for a crime in exchange for the FBI catching another criminal. Oliver presumably pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law, and there's no way for a guilty plea to be conditioned on pleas just don't work that way, so the FBI catching another criminal.FBI's failure to catch Diaz is irrelevant to Oliver's conviction.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel losing her first attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside is RightForTheWrongReasons, because the case should probably have been dismissed without a hearing, instead of actually getting a ruling. She argues that Oliver should be released because of the abuse he suffered and the FBI's failure to catch Diaz, but neither of these actually provide grounds for his release:

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel losing her first attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside is RightForTheWrongReasons, because the case should probably have been dismissed without a hearing, instead of actually getting a ruling. She argues that Oliver should be released because of the abuse he suffered at Slabside and the FBI's failure to catch Diaz, but neither of these actually provide grounds for his release:

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel's attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside because of the abuse he suffered could never have worked. Felicity is probably correct that Oliver's Constitutional rights were violated (specifically his right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment), but this could only result in his release if the violation was due to his conviction itself or the length of his sentence, not prisoner abuse. The judge ruling against her is actually RightForTheWrongReasons; the case should have been dismissed without a hearing because there are no grounds for the relief she is seeking, i.e. Oliver's release.

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Earth-2 Laurel's Laurel losing her first attempt to get Oliver released from Slabside is RightForTheWrongReasons, because the case should probably have been dismissed without a hearing, instead of actually getting a ruling. She argues that Oliver should be released because of the abuse he suffered could never have worked. and the FBI's failure to catch Diaz, but neither of these actually provide grounds for his release:
** The prisoner abuse would probably entitle Oliver to monetary damages, since
Felicity is probably correct that Oliver's his Constitutional rights were violated (specifically his right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment), but this could only result in his release if not release.
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the violation was due FBI failing to his conviction itself or the length of his sentence, not prisoner abuse. The judge ruling against her catch Diaz is actually RightForTheWrongReasons; the case should have been dismissed without a hearing because there are no grounds for the relief she is seeking, i.e. irrelevant to Oliver's release.conviction, since he (presumably) pled guilty to breaking the anti-vigilante law, and there's no way for a guilty plea to be conditioned on the FBI catching another criminal.
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** Also, Laurel probably would not have been allowed to represent Oliver due to conflict of interest rules, seeing as she is the D.A. and her office had originally prosecuted him.
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** Also, Laurel probably would not have been allowed to represent Oliver due to conflict of interest rules, seeing as she is ostensibly the D.A. and her office had originally prosecuted him.

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** Also, Laurel probably would not have been allowed to represent Oliver due to conflict of interest rules, seeing as she is ostensibly the D.A. and her office had originally prosecuted him.

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