History Quotes / WhatcouldHaveBeen

'''David''': Was the plan to have [[JackNicholson Nicholson]] reprise his role?\\
'''Chris''': I’m not sure if they were planning on getting Nicholson back or not. I imagine they probably were, though. I mean, it’s not like there could ever be another actor who could do such a [[MarkHamill great, definitive take]] [[HeathLedger with that role, right?]]\\

-->-- '''Music/FrankSinatra''', ''All or Nothing At All''

-->--'''''Deadspin''''', [[http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-buffalo-bills-1628452314 Why Your Team Sucks 2014: Buffalo Bills"]]

->'''Chris''': ''[[http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Triumphant Batman Triumphant]]'' was rumored to involve HarleyQuinn as the Joker’s daughter played by {{Music/Madonna}} and the Joker coming back in an extended hallucination sequence, it’s probably for the best that it never happened.\\

->''"There was a brief blip where and it probably was never true, but there was a rumor I remember where they were going to cast RobertRedford, and I want to say PaulNewman, as Kirk and Spock. It was a big rumor in the mid-‘70s that they would [[TheOtherDarrin recast the roles]] with them and do it as a movie. It probably had no basis in reality. But people were just foaming at the mouth in fan circles. It was just madness, madness! ‘YOU CAN’T DO THAT!’ If they had done that, everything would have been different. It might have worked, but we’ll never know."''

->''"I heard a rumor one time that Edward James Olmos was considered as a Captain for ''Voyager''. I'm almost certain that's not true, but it does raise an interesting question of what Commander Adama of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would have done in Janeway's place. Well first, I think it's pretty damn obvious we'd see a lot more of Neelix being [[TakeThatScrappy bludgeoned with a flashlight.]]"''

->''"That god damn ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2223990/ Draft Day]]'' movie was supposed to be about the Bills but then movie producers decided to go with the Browns. I guess even the execs in Hollywood thought that a movie about the Bills having a good draft [[IncompetenceInc was too unbelievable]]."''
-->--"'''[[http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-buffalo-bills-1628452314 Why Your Team Sucks 2014]]: Buffalo Bills'''"

->''"You know, I'd give good money if this version of the movie could be erased, and I could see the original concept; From what I've heard, it was supposed to be much darker, and Data was [[ICannotSelfTerminate supposed to be killed off]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends by Picard himself]]. Granted, that would have made it an even bigger ''[[{{Film/Terminator}} T2]]'' ripoff, but at least we'd be spared [[SuckinessIsPainful the pain that is soon to come]]."''

-->--'''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf57BoG_xNQ Let's Drown Out]]''' ''JustCause2''

-->--'''''[[WebVideo/HalfInTheBag Half in the Bag]]''''', ''Alien Vs. Predator'' rifftrack

-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/batman-and-robin-movie-review/ on]] ''Film/BatmanAndRobin''

->''"Years before the version of ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' that we know and love, there was another version, [[DevelopmentHell scrapped by Disney]] in 1983 until Robert Zemeckis revived the concept, building on some of what had come before...Had this version been made, Jessica Rabbit would probably have been the villain and not the toon-fetish we all know today, and ''[Paul]'' Reubens might have focused on voice-over work to the detriment of [[PeeWeesPlayhouse that other bow-tied character]] he was working on as part of a stage show at the time. So we're probably better off --- but it's fascinating to see what could have been."''
-->--'''''[[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/09/the_1983_version_of_roger_rabbit_with_paul_reubens.php Topless Robot]]'''', "The 1983 Version of ''Roger Rabbit'', With Paul Reubens"

->''"What makes this role particularly sad is the fact that Raul Julia only agreed to be in ''Film/StreetFighter'' because [[SoMyKidsCanWatch his kids were fans of the game]]. He had a couple of automatic-awesome movies lined up afterward, including the role of the main villain in Robert Rodriguez's ''{{Film/Desperado}}''. But he died very suddenly and never got to do any of them, so his last contribution to the world of cinema ended up being Street Fighter the goddamned movie."''

->''"For all that it is hailed as the greatest Creator/PeterDavison story and one of the greatest ever, almost nobody suggests including it as the representative story for the Davison era. The consensus seems to be that its greatness is only properly appreciated when you’ve [[ItGetsBetter seen the rest of the Davison era]]...Yes, the story looks great in contrast with everything around it, but that’s not because it pays off any buildup from them. It’s because they were often a complete mess and this story isn’t. Yes, this story [[DamnedByFaintPraise looks like an absolute giant]] compared to the rest of the Davison era, but that’s as much because of their flaws as its merits.\\\
The fact of the matter is that they couldn’t get the Davison era to work until his last story. They drove the best actor they’d had since [[Creator/PatrickTroughton Troughton]] away with the crap scripts of Season 20, and by the time they gave him a truly brilliant script he’d [[ArtistDisillusionment already decided to leave.]]"''
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/04/grinding-engines-of-universe-caves-of.html on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'' ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS21E6TheCavesOfAndrozani}} "The Caves of Androzani"]])

->''"The thought of Wrestling/{{W|orldWrestlingFederation}}WF vs. Wrestling/{{WCW}} was something that fans had wanted since the two companies became the standard bearers for the wrestling industry in North America. Fans would debate [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny who would win a world title showdown]] between {{Wrestling/Goldberg}} and [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]]... Perhaps it was because [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince (MacMahon)]] never really wanted to acknowledge that WCW was [[Wrestling/MondayNightWars on equal ground]] with his own creation. He had, after all, refused to even acknowledge their existence on WWF television until the late [=1990s=], when ''[[Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro Nitro]]'' was beating ''[[Wrestling/WWERaw Raw]]''[='s=] ass in the ratings. They were the only wrestling company to successfully compete with him, and not only that, beat him at his own game. It was a humiliation that a man of Vince’s fragile ego seemed unable to endure. Therefore, it probably shouldn’t have come as much of a shock that when he finally got the chance to pit the two companies “against” each other, that he had the WWF side [[SquashMatch completely annihilate]] WCW."''

->''"The thought of {{WWF}} vs. {{WCW}} was something that fans had wanted since the two companies became the standard bearers for the wrestling industry in North America. Fans would debate [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny who would win a world title showdown]] between {{Wrestling/Goldberg}} and [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]]... Perhaps it was because [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince (MacMahon)]] never really wanted to acknowledge that WCW was [[Wrestling/MondayNightWars on equal ground]] with his own creation. He had, after all, refused to even acknowledge their existence on WWF television until the late [=1990s=], when ''[[Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro Nitro]]'' was beating ''[[Wrestling/WWERaw Raw]]''[='s=] ass in the ratings. They were the only wrestling company to successfully compete with him, and not only that, beat him at his own game. It was a humiliation that a man of Vince’s fragile ego seemed unable to endure. Therefore, it probably shouldn’t have come as much of a shock that when he finally got the chance to pit the two companies “against” each other, that he had the WWF side [[SquashMatch completely annihilate]] WCW."''

->''"That god damn ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2223990/ DraftDay]]'' movie was supposed to be about the Bills but then movie producers decided to go with the Browns. I guess even the execs in Hollywood thought that a movie about the Bills having a good draft [[IncompetenceInc was too unbelievable]]."''

->''"That god damn ''DraftDay' movie was supposed to be about the Bills but then movie producers decided to go with the Browns. I guess even the exec's in Hollywood thought that a movie about the Bills having a good draft [[IncompetenceInc was too unbelievable]]."''

->''Why pretend and cry, for something that might have been?\\
No I'd rather have nothing at all.''

'''Chris''': I’m not sure if they were planning on getting Nicholson back or not. I imagine they probably were, though. I mean, it’s not like there could ever be another actor who could do such a [[MarkHamill great, defnitive take]] [[HeathLedger with that role, right?]]\\

->''"The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show). "''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/voyager-season-six.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Equinox Pt. 2"

->''"For all that it is hailed as the greatest Creator/PeterDavison story and one of the greatest ever, almost nobody suggests including it as the representative story for the Davison era. The consensus seems to be that its greatness is only properly appreciated when you’ve [[ItGetsBetter seen the rest of the Davison era]]...Yes, the story looks great in contrast with everything around it, but that’s not because it pays off any buildup from them. It’s because they were often a complete mess and this story isn’t. Yes, this story [[DamnedByFaintPraise looks like an absolute giant]] compared to the rest of the Davison era, but that’s as much because of their flaws as its merits.\\\
The fact of the matter is that they couldn’t get the Davison era to work until his last story. They drove the best actor they’d had since [[Creator/PatrickTroughton Troughton]] away with the crap scripts of Season 20, and by the time they gave him a truly brilliant script he’d [[ArtistDisillusionment already decided to leave.]]"''
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/04/grinding-engines-of-universe-caves-of.html on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'' ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS21E6TheCavesOfAndrozani}} "The Caves of Androzani"]])

->''"You know, I'd give good money if this version of the movie could be erased, and I could see the original concept; From what I've heard, it was supposed to be much darker, and Data was [[ICannotSelfTerminate supposed to be killed off]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends by Picard himself]]. Granted, that would have made it an even bigger ''[[{{Film/Terminator}} T2]]'' ripoff, but at least we'd be spared [[SuckinessIsPainful the pain that is soon to come]]."''
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''

->''"I heard a rumor one time that Edward James Olmos was considered as a Captain for ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]''. I'm almost certain that's not true, but it does raise an interesting question of what Commander Adama of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would have done in Janeway's place. Well first, I think it's pretty damn obvious we'd see a lot more of Neelix being [[TakeThatScrappy bludgeoned with a flashlight.]]"''

->''"There was a brief blip where and it probably was never true, but there was a rumor I remember where they were going to cast RobertRedford, and I want to say PaulNewman, as Kirk and Spock. It was a big rumor in the mid-‘70s that they would [[TheOtherDarrin recast the roles] with them and do it as a movie. It probably had no basis in reality. But people were just foaming at the mouth in fan circles. It was just madness, madness! ‘YOU CAN’T DO THAT!’ If they had done that, everything would have been different. It might have worked, but we’ll never know."''

->''"There was a brief blip where and it probably was never true, but there was a rumor I remember where they were going to cast RobertRedford, and I want to say PaulNewman, as Kirk and Spock. It was a big rumor in the mid-‘70s that they would recast the roles with them and do it as a movie. It probably had no basis in reality. But people were just foaming at the mouth in fan circles. It was just madness, madness! ‘YOU CAN’T DO THAT!’ If they had done that, everything would have been different. It might have worked, but we’ll never know."''

->''"I heard a rumor one time that Edward James Olmos was considered as a Captain for ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]''. I'm almost certain that's not true, but it does raise an interesting question of what Commander Adama of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would have done in Janeway's place. Well first, I think it's pretty damn obvious we'd see a lot more of Neelix being [[TakeThatScrappy bludgeoned with a flashlight.]]"''
-->-- '''{{Website/SFDebris}}'''

-->--'''''HalfInTheBag''''', ''Alien Vs. Predator'' rifftrack

->''"You know, I'd give good money if this version of the movie could be erased, and I could see the original concept; From what I've heard, it was supposed to be much darker, and Data was [[FaceHeelTurn supposed to be killed off]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends by Picard himself]]. Granted, that would have made it an even bigger ''[[{{Film/Terminator}} T2]]'' ripoff, but at least we'd be spared [[SuckinessIsPainful the pain that is soon to come]]."''

->'''Chris''': Anyway, execs were so impressed with the dailies that they immediately greenlit a fifth Batman movie by Schumacher and Akiva Goldsman, ''Batman Triumphant'', but reconsidered when the bad press from ''B&R'' tanked it at the box office. Assuming, again, that one considers $125,000,000 in profit to be tanking. Either way, since ''Batman Triumphant'' was rumored to involve HarleyQuinn as the Joker’s daughter played by {{Music/Madonna}} and the Joker coming back in an extended hallucination sequence, it’s probably for the best that it never happened.\\

'''David''': Knowing this franchise at this point, they’d have gotten, like, AdamSandler.

->''"I heard a rumor one time that Edward James Olmos was considered as a Captain for ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]''. I'm almost certain that's not true, but it does raise an interesting question of what Commander Adama of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would have done in Janeway's place. Well first, I think it's pretty damn obvious we'd see a lot more of [[TheScrappy Neelix]] being bludgeoned with a flashlight."''

->''"I heard a rumor one time that Edward James Olmos was considered as a Captain for ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]''. I'm almost certain that's not true, but it does raise an interesting question of what Commander Adama of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would have done in Janeway's place. Well first, I think it's pretty damn obvious we'd see a lot more of [[TheScrappy Neelix]] being bludgeoned with a flashlight."''
-->-- '''{{Website/SFDebris}}'''

->''"The thought of {{WWF}} vs. {{WCW}} was something that fans had wanted since the two companies became the standard bearers for the wrestling industry in North America. Fans would debate [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny who would win a world title showdown]] between {{Wrestling/Goldberg}} and [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]]... Perhaps it was because [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince (MacMahon)]] never really wanted to acknowledge that WCW was [[Wrestling/MondayNightWars on equal ground]] with his own creation. He had, after all, refused to even acknowledge their existence on WWF television until the late [=1990s=], when ''[[Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro Nitro]]'' was beating ''[[Wrestling/WWERaw Raw]]''[='s=] ass in the ratings. They were the only wrestling company to successfully compete with him, and not only that, beat him at his own game. It was a humiliation that a man of Vince’s fragile ego seemed unable to endure. Therefore, it probably shouldn’t have come as much of a shock that when he finally got the chance to pit the two companies “against” each other, that he had [[BestServedCold the WWF side completely annihilate WCW.]]"''

->'''Chris:''' Cage is having some trouble with “The Press” because they don’t think he’s really a good martial artist, which seems like a weird thing to haunt someone’s career.\\
'''Matt''': It’s such a strain on him that he gets into an argument with his [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg]]-lookalike director, who was originally supposed to be Spielberg himself. That’s right. '''Steven Spielberg would have been in''' '''''Mortal Kombat''''' if it weren’t for some scheduling snafu. He loves the games, at least according to {{IMDb}}.\\
'''Chris''': I am having an incredibly hard time believing that.\\
'''Matt''': Everything on [=IMDb=] is true, Chris! You know it is!
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/mortal-kombat-movie-review/ on]] ''Film/MortalKombat''

->''"Originally, Joel Soisson, the writer of ''[Highlander] Endgame'', wrote the script. Not surprisingly, it sucked. He got dropped from the project, and Peter Briggs, the screenwriter for ''{{Film/Hellboy}}'', came in. In preparation for the project, Briggs actually did research and listened to fans, rewatching all of the movies and the TV series and [[OneOfUs signing up on the official Highlander message boards under an alias]] so he could figure out what fans wanted. With someone so dedicated to making a quality film, it’s not surprising that [[TheDilbertPrinciple he got kicked off the project]]. Can’t have quality and a respect for the source material in this franchise, no sirree. His replacement was Stephen Kelvin Watkins, a guy who had never written a professional screenplay before and who I assume was hired because he came on the cheap."''
-->--[[http://www.screamsheet.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/highlander-the-source-part-one/ The Screamsheet]] on ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}: The Source''

'''Rich:''' Oh ''nooo!''\\

'''Rich:''' Oh '''[[BigNo NOOO!]]'''\\

'''Rich:''' That is the most depressing thing I've ever heard! I was ambivalent about this movie; now I hate it!

->''Of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: "It might have been."''
-->-- '''John Greenleaf Whittier'''

->''"Numerous cruises get canceled each year because there's not enough interest, including a horror cruise that would have included Music/AliceCooper, [[Creator/TonyTodd Candyman]], [[Creator/KaneHodder Kane "Jason" Hodder]], and director of ''Film/JohnDiesAtTheEnd'' Don Coscarelli. That cruise didn't sell enough tickets, but [[RacistGrandma Paula Deen]] is booked through 2014. What a sick world we live in."''
-->-- '''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', "[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-profoundly-depressing-celebrity-cruises/ The 7 Most Profoundly Depressing Celebrity Cruises]]"

->''"The thought of {{WWF}} vs. {{WCW}} was something that fans had wanted since the two companies became the standard bearers for the wrestling industry in North America. Fans would debate [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny who would win a world title showdown]] between {{Wrestling/Goldberg}} and [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]]... Perhaps it was because [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince (MacMahon)]] never really wanted to acknowledge that WCW was [[DuelingShows on equal ground]] with his own creation. He had, after all, refused to even acknowledge their existence on WWF television until the late [=1990s=], when ''[[Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro Nitro]]'' was beating ''[[Wrestling/WWERaw Raw]]''[='s=] ass in the ratings. They were the only wrestling company to successfully compete with him, and not only that, beat him at his own game. It was a humiliation that a man of Vince’s fragile ego seemed unable to endure. Therefore, it probably shouldn’t have come as much of a shock that when he finally got the chance to pit the two companies “against” each other, that he had [[BestServedCold the WWF side completely annihilate WCW.]]"''

->''"''The thought of {{WWF}} vs. {{WCW}} was something that fans had wanted since the two companies became the standard bearers for the wrestling industry in North America. Fans would debate [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny who would win a world title showdown]] between {{Wrestling/Goldberg}} and [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]]... Perhaps it was because [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince (MacMahon)]] never really wanted to acknowledge that WCW was [[DuelingShows on equal ground]] with his own creation. He had, after all, refused to even acknowledge their existence on WWF television until the late [=1990s=], when ''[[Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro Nitro]]'' was beating ''[[Wrestling/WWERaw Raw]]''[='s=] ass in the ratings. They were the only wrestling company to successfully compete with him, and not only that, beat him at his own game. It was a humiliation that a man of Vince’s fragile ego seemed unable to endure. Therefore, it probably shouldn’t have come as much of a shock that when he finally got the chance to pit the two companies “against” each other, that he had [[BestServedCold the WWF side completely annihilate WCW.]]"''