History Quotes / TwoPlusTortureMakesFive

->Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.

->'''Picard:''' All I had to do was to say that I could see five lights, when in fact, there were only four.\\

-->-- '''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'''

-->-- '''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'''

->No! It’s not enough! I don’t want him to obey! I want him to believe! To accept! To want to accept! We’ve got to have him work for us voluntarily!

->It wasn't the torture that broke ''me''. It wasn't the indoctrination. It was time. Time rots everything, Booker. Even hope.
-->--[[spoiler: '''Future Elizabeth''',]] ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''

->'''Picard:''' All I had to do was to say that I could see five lights, when in fact, there were only four.
->'''Troi:''' You didn't say it?
->'''Picard:''' No... but I was going to. I would have told him anything. Anything at all. But more than that... I believed that I ''could'' see five lights.
-->--''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "Chain of Command Pt. II"

-->--'''Sam''', ''Series/BurnNotice'', "Comrades"

->"The Gestapo were bone-breakers. The Stasi were ''soul''-breakers."
-->--'''German saying'''

->'''Picard:''' No, but I was going to. I would have told him anything, anything at all. But more than that... I believed that I ''could'' see five lights.

-> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. [[spoiler:O'Brien]] held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if [[PoliceState The Party]] says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "How can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

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->Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-->-- '''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'''

-> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. [[spoiler:O'Brien]] held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if [[PoliceState The Party]] says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "How can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"
-->-- '''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'''

->No! It’s not enough! I don’t want him to obey! I want him to believe! To accept! To want to accept! We’ve got to have him work for us voluntarily!
-->-- '''Ferris''', ''Literature/AtlasShrugged''

->It wasn't the torture that broke ''me''. It wasn't the indoctrination. It was time. Time rots everything, Booker. Even hope.
-->--[[spoiler: '''Future Elizabeth''',]] ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''

->'''Picard:''' All I had to do was to say that I could see five lights, when in fact, there were only four.
->'''Troi:''' You didn't say it?
->'''Picard:''' No, but I was going to. I would have told him anything, anything at all. But more than that... I believed that I ''could'' see five lights.
-->--''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "Chain of Command Pt. II"

->''"Mike, this guy is Gulag tough. I've seen the type. After a month, when he's been in isolation so long that he's howling at the moon, you know, maybe..."''
-->--'''Sam''', ''Series/BurnNotice'', "Comrades"

->"The Gestapo were bone-breakers. The Stasi were ''soul''-breakers."
-->--'''German saying'''
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-->--'''Future Elizabeth''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''

-> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if [[PoliceState The Party]] says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "How can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

-->-- '''German saying'''

--> ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.''

--> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if [[PoliceState The Party]] says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "How can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

--> “No! It’s not enough! I don’t want him to obey! I want him to believe! To accept! To want to accept! We’ve got to have him work for us voluntarily!”

->"It wasn't the torture that broke ''me''. It wasn't the indoctrination. It was time. Time rots everything, Booker. Even hope."

-> '''Picard''': "There are ''four'' lights."
-> '''Madred''': (activates torture device) ''"There are '''FIVE''' lights!"
--> '''StarTrekTheNextGeneration''', Episode TheChainsOfCommand

-> '''Madred''': (activating torture device) ''"There are '''FIVE''' lights!"
--> '''StarTrekTheGeneration''', Episode TheChainsOfCommand

-->-- '''Ferris''', ''Literature/AtlasShrugged''

--> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if [[PoliceState The Party]] says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "Now can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

-->-- '''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'''

--> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?" "Yes", relied Winston. O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?" "Four." "And if TheParty says it is not four, but five? Then how many?" "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain. "How many fingers, Winston?" "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!" "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four." "Now can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!" "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

--> "Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary ''Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four''?"
--> "Yes", relied Winston
--> O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. "How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?"
--> "Four"
--> "And if TheParty says it is not four, but five? Then how many?"
--> "Four - " The word ended in a gasp of pain.
--> "How many fingers, Winston?"
--> "FIVE! FIVE! FIVE!"
--> "No Winston, that is no use, you are lying. You still think there are four".
--> "Now can I help it," he blubbered, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four!"
--> "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes, there are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder, it is not easy to become sane"

-->-- '''NineteenEightyFour'''