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--> '''WebVideo/JobbyTheHong''' on ''WesternAnimation/TransformersWarForCybertronTrilogy''

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-->-- ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', [[https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0195.html Episode 186]]

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-->-- ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', [[https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0195.net/episodes/0186.html Episode 186]]
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->''"So you're [[Characters/DragonBallZAbridgedSonGoku his]] brother, huh? [[MinorMajorCharacter Wow, that must mean you'll be involved in a lot of future events, right?]]"''
-->-- '''Krillin''' to '''Raditz''', ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged''
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->''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'' horror game? Sounds interesting! ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansionSeries Luigi's Mansion]]'' proved it could work! So where the hell is King Boo, then? I mean, the setting is a ghost-infested mansion and the plot is dead serious! [[KnightOfCerebus King Boo]] would've fitted in perfectly as the main antagonist, and he's completely absent in favor of an [[OriginalCharacter OC]].

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->''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros ->''"''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'' horror game? Sounds interesting! ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansionSeries Luigi's Mansion]]'' proved it could work! So where the hell is King Boo, then? I mean, the setting is a ghost-infested mansion and the plot is dead serious! [[KnightOfCerebus King Boo]] would've fitted in perfectly as the main antagonist, and he's completely absent in favor of an [[OriginalCharacter OC]]."''



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->''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'' horror game? Sounds interesting! ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansionSeries Luigi's Mansion]]'' proved it could work! So where the hell is King Boo, then? I mean, the setting is a ghost-infested mansion and the plot is dead serious! [[KnightOfCerebus King Boo]] would've fitted in perfectly as the main antagonist, and he's completely absent in favor of an [[OriginalCharacter OC]].
-->-- '''itch.io user 4MyHonestOpinions''' on ''VideoGame/MarioTheMusicBox''
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->''"The [[GameMaster GM]] here is setting up all this back story so that Darth Maul can be an ongoing thorn in the sides of the [[PlayerCharacter PCs]]. He's a carefully crafted character who will no doubt return many times over the course of years of campaigning to come. With such a great character, who would want to '''not''' see him return?"''
-->-- ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', [[https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0195.html Episode 186]]

->''"The most well-developed [[NonPlayerCharacter NPC]] the GM has, with an extensive back-story, detailed motivations, a deep and flavourful character portrayal, and also just inherently cool, and the [=PCs=] go and do this to him in their first real encounter. Typical."''
-->-- ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', [[https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0194.html Episode 194: "The Devil Went Down the Gorge, Eh?]]

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->''"''Series/StarTrekPicard'' has one of the weirdest flaws I've ever seen in a show.\\
It's amazing at character, but it doesn't seem to know that it is.\\
It insists on drowning out its characters with buckets and buckets of plot.\\
There's such a maddening amount of wasted potential.\\\
Laris, Raffi, Elnor and Rios etc were characters who completely captivated me within moments of their introduction. There's such a natural aptitude for character design in this show.\\
But then the show just does everything it can to avoid taking advantage of this. It's bizarre.\\\
The show seems almost ashamed of these other characters. Like it thinks you're only here for [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard]] and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Seven]] and it's worried it's wasting your time whenever the others are on screen.\\
But the others are the best bit ffs."''

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->''"''Series/StarTrekPicard'' has one of the weirdest flaws I've ever seen in a show.\\
It's amazing at character, but it doesn't seem to know that it is.\\
is. It insists on drowning out its characters with buckets and buckets of plot.\\
plot. There's such a maddening amount of wasted potential.\\\
potential. Laris, Raffi, Elnor Elnor, and Rios etc Rios, etc., were characters who completely captivated me within moments of their introduction. There's such a natural aptitude for character design in this show.\\
But then the show just does everything it can to avoid taking advantage of this. It's bizarre.\\\
The show seems almost ashamed of these other characters. Like it thinks you're only here for [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard]] and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Seven]] and it's worried it's wasting your time whenever the others are on screen.\\
But the others are the best bit ffs.bit, FFS."''

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-> You know that [[EnsembleDarkhorse quirky side character]] that’s really interesting and entertaining but ultimately overshadowed by the boring lead that’s [[VanillaProtagonist got no real personality or motives?]] Digger’s like a comic that’s all about that quirky side character.

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-> You ->''"You know that [[EnsembleDarkhorse quirky side character]] that’s really interesting and entertaining but ultimately overshadowed by the boring lead that’s [[VanillaProtagonist got no real personality or motives?]] Digger’s like a comic that’s all about that quirky side character."''



-> "Movie earns an extra 10 sins for the colossal waste of talent in hiring the two guys from ''[[Film/TheRaid2Berandal The Raid 2]]'' only to hire then say only a few lines and get eaten by the Spaghetti Monster and promptly wastes them."

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-> "Movie ->''"Movie earns an extra 10 sins for the colossal waste of talent in hiring the two guys from ''[[Film/TheRaid2Berandal The Raid 2]]'' only to hire then say only a few lines and get eaten by the Spaghetti Monster and promptly wastes them.""''



-> Well thank you movie! Thank you for ruining the only possibly cool character in this entire film!

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-> Well ->"''Well, thank you you, movie! Thank you for ruining the only possibly cool character in this entire film!film!"''



-> In a [[ReimaginingTheArtifact timely update]] of the character, [[Creator/BenKingsley Osama Bin Kingsley]] plays the [[MagnificentBastard brilliant terrorist]] who [[TheChessmaster manipulates the entire country into doing his bidding.]] ''(plays a clip of him saying "[[spoiler: My name is Trevor. Trevor Slattery.]]")'' Wait, what? ''("I'm [[spoiler:an actor. The Mandarin. See? He's not real.]]")'' [[NoJustNoReaction No. You can't do that]]. [[EvilIsCool They were doing]] such [[CreepyAwesome a good job]] and they [[spoiler:turned him into a punchline?]] This is ComicBook/IronMan's [[ArchEnemy arch-fucking nemesis!]] This isn't just ignoring the comics, this is dropping their pants and [[CanonDefilement wiping their butt with them!]]

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-> In ->''"In a [[ReimaginingTheArtifact timely update]] of the character, [[Creator/BenKingsley Osama Bin Kingsley]] plays the [[MagnificentBastard brilliant terrorist]] who [[TheChessmaster manipulates the entire country into doing his bidding.]] ''(plays a clip of him saying "[[spoiler: My name is Trevor. Trevor Slattery.]]")'' Wait, what? ''("I'm [[spoiler:an actor. The Mandarin. See? He's not real.]]")'' real]].")'' [[NoJustNoReaction No. You can't do that]]. that.]] [[EvilIsCool They were doing]] such [[CreepyAwesome a good job]] job]], and they [[spoiler:turned him into a punchline?]] punchline]]? This is ComicBook/IronMan's [[ArchEnemy arch-fucking nemesis!]] arch-fucking-nemesis]]! This isn't just ignoring the comics, this is dropping their pants and [[CanonDefilement wiping their butt with them!]]them]]!"''



->'''Craig''': Just use my analogy. They're like, in a {{boy band}} and [[Wrestling/BeckyLynch this]] is the crazy one.\\
'''Bryan''': Yeah, they all have to have a [[InsistentTerminology character]], a wacky character.\\
'''Vinny''': [[BigNo No!]] They don't have characters, they have a {{tag line}}.\\
'''Craig''': Right.\\
'''Vinny''': Where Wrestling/{{Charlotte|Flair}} is Wrestling/RicFlair's daughter, full stop. Wrestling/{{Paige}} is English, full stop. Becky has red hair, full stop. And I thought about this and I said 'You know what this is off the top of my head. We know Becky had to go through growing up in Ireland just to train anywhere, talked about this in NXT. Had to travel the world to train, she had an injury, almost quit, had to be talked to coming back, that's a great fucking story. Charlotte grew up the daughter of the of the best of all time. There's a tremendous burden on her and she's delivering, that's great fucking story.' Well okay, she was delivering on NXT.\\
'''Bryan''': I was gonna say, let's not go crazy here.\\
'''Vinny''': Paige grew up in a {{wrestling family}}. Father's a wrestler mother's a wrestler brother's a wrestler and they've all been in England and her brother wanted to come to come to the US so badly but he couldn't make it! She's living out the dream for her whole fucking family, that's a great fucking story! And then I thought about the girls who are already on the roster. Hey, you know what? The Wrestling/{{Bella|Twins}}s have been around forever and there's a lot of people who think they only get opportunities because of who they're dating and now they have to prove that they deserve their spots. That's a great fucking story, these are all great fucking stories! None of them are being used, because the people making this TV show are so fucking stupid! I don't want to give them anymore of my money! It's why I want to quit the network!
-->--''[[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter The Bryan And Vinny Show]]''


->"Hook's introduction makes you think he's going to progress and get more and more specific and rich, but he never does. There is no chemistry between him and Pan. Their ancient rivalry is told to us in exposition, but it never comes to life on the screen. They don't seem to connect, even when they fight. They just perform what the story tells them to perform and get it over with."
-->--'''Creator/JohnKricfalusi''' on [[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Captain Hook]], [[Blog/JohnKStuff "Disney Gets Almost Specific"]]

->"Guys who can essentially be in three places at the same time? Nope, no stories about them. [[SpotlightStealingSquad More Bumblebee!]]"
-->--'''Website/TFWikiDotNet''' caption for ''[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ultra_Pretender Ultra Pretender]]''

->"Now the thing about Bumblebee... I love the concept of what they were going for with this character. He's an unaffiliated drifter. When we open up the show, he doesn't even have the Autobot logo on his chest. Excellent. And I was thinking that throughout the course of the show, Bumblebee would find it within himself to join the Autobot cause because he sees that the Decepticons are much worse. Respecting his individuality, respecting his choices as a soldier, I wanted to see that personal growth. (''beat'') But no! [[ItMakesSenseInContext Magical space ghost.]] So essentially, Bumblebee was forced into the Autobot cause. Lame."

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->'''Craig''': ->'''Craig:''' Just use my analogy. They're like, in a {{boy band}} and [[Wrestling/BeckyLynch this]] is the crazy one.\\
'''Bryan''': '''Bryan:''' Yeah, they all have to have a [[InsistentTerminology character]], a wacky character.\\
'''Vinny''': '''Vinny:''' [[BigNo No!]] They don't have characters, they have a {{tag line}}.\\
'''Craig''': '''Craig:''' Right.\\
'''Vinny''': '''Vinny:''' Where Wrestling/{{Charlotte|Flair}} is Wrestling/RicFlair's daughter, full stop. Wrestling/{{Paige}} is English, full stop. Becky has red hair, full stop. And I thought about this and I said 'You know what this is off the top of my head. We know Becky had to go through growing up in Ireland just to train anywhere, talked about this in NXT. Had to travel the world to train, she had an injury, almost quit, had to be talked to coming back, that's a great fucking story. Charlotte grew up the daughter of the of the best of all time. There's a tremendous burden on her and she's delivering, that's great fucking story.' Well okay, she was delivering on NXT.\\
'''Bryan''': '''Bryan:''' I was gonna say, let's not go crazy here.\\
'''Vinny''': '''Vinny:''' Paige grew up in a {{wrestling family}}. Father's a wrestler mother's a wrestler brother's a wrestler and they've all been in England and her brother wanted to come to come to the US so badly but he couldn't make it! She's living out the dream for her whole fucking family, that's a great fucking story! And then I thought about the girls who are already on the roster. Hey, you know what? The Wrestling/{{Bella|Twins}}s have been around forever and there's a lot of people who think they only get opportunities because of who they're dating and now they have to prove that they deserve their spots. That's a great fucking story, these are all great fucking stories! None of them are being used, because the people making this TV show are so fucking stupid! I don't want to give them anymore of my money! It's why I want to quit the network!
-->--''[[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter -->-- ''[[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter The Bryan And and Vinny Show]]''


->"Hook's
Show]]''

->''"Hook's
introduction makes you think he's going to progress and get more and more specific and rich, but he never does. There is no chemistry between him and Pan. Their ancient rivalry is told to us in exposition, but it never comes to life on the screen. They don't seem to connect, even when they fight. They just perform what the story tells them to perform and get it over with."
-->--'''Creator/JohnKricfalusi'''
"''
-->-- '''Creator/JohnKricfalusi'''
on [[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Captain Hook]], [[Blog/JohnKStuff "Disney Gets Almost Specific"]]

->"Guys ->''"Guys who can essentially be in three places at the same time? Nope, no stories about them. [[SpotlightStealingSquad More Bumblebee!]]"
-->--'''Website/TFWikiDotNet'''
Bumblebee!]]"''
-->-- '''Website/TFWikiDotNet'''
caption for ''[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ultra_Pretender Ultra Pretender]]''

->"Now ->''"Now, the thing about Bumblebee... I love the concept of what they were going for with this character. He's an unaffiliated drifter. When we open up the show, he doesn't even have the Autobot logo on his chest. Excellent. And I was thinking that throughout the course of the show, Bumblebee would find it within himself to join the Autobot cause because he sees that the Decepticons are much worse. Respecting his individuality, respecting his choices as a soldier, I wanted to see that personal growth. (''beat'') But no! [[ItMakesSenseInContext Magical space ghost.]] So essentially, Bumblebee was forced into the Autobot cause. Lame.""''



->'''Joanna''': You've [[CelebCrush fancied her]] ever since we saw [[Creator/MonicaBellucci her]] in ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. You were incandescent with rage. "How could they sign her up for a Bond film and then only use her for about thirty seconds?"
->'''Roger''': I still feel the same.
-->--''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''

->''Series/StarTrekPicard'' has one of the weirdest flaws i've ever seen in a show.\\

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->'''Joanna''': ->'''Joanna:''' You've [[CelebCrush fancied her]] ever since we saw [[Creator/MonicaBellucci her]] in ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. You were incandescent with rage. "How could they sign her up for a Bond film and then only use her for about thirty seconds?"
->'''Roger''':
seconds?"\\
'''Roger:'''
I still feel the same.
-->--''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''

->''Series/StarTrekPicard''
-->-- ''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''

->''"''Series/StarTrekPicard''
has one of the weirdest flaws i've I've ever seen in a show.\\



But the others are the best bit ffs.

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But the others are the best bit ffs."''
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->'''Joanna''': You've [[CelebrityCrush fancied her]] ever since we saw [[Creator/MonicaBellucci her]] in ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. You were incandescent with rage. "How could they sign her up for a Bond film and then only use her for about thirty seconds?"

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->'''Joanna''': You've [[CelebrityCrush [[CelebCrush fancied her]] ever since we saw [[Creator/MonicaBellucci her]] in ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. You were incandescent with rage. "How could they sign her up for a Bond film and then only use her for about thirty seconds?"
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-> In a [[ReimaginingTheArtifact timely update]] of the character, [[Creator/BenKingsley Osama Bin Kingsley]] plays the [[MagnificentBastard brilliant terrorist]] who [[TheChessmaster manipulates the entire country into doing his bidding.]] ''(plays a clip of him saying "[[spoiler: My name is Trevor. Trevor Slattery.]]")'' Wait, what? ''("I'm [[spoiler:an actor. The Mandarin. See? He's not real.]]")'' [[NoJustNoReaction No. You can't do that.]] [[EvilIsCool They were doing]] [[CreepyAwesome such a good job]] and they [[spoiler:turned him into a punchline?]] This is ComicBook/IronMan's [[ArchEnemy arch-fucking nemesis!]] This isn't just ignoring the comics, this is dropping their pants and [[CanonDefilement wiping their butt with them!]]

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-> In a [[ReimaginingTheArtifact timely update]] of the character, [[Creator/BenKingsley Osama Bin Kingsley]] plays the [[MagnificentBastard brilliant terrorist]] who [[TheChessmaster manipulates the entire country into doing his bidding.]] ''(plays a clip of him saying "[[spoiler: My name is Trevor. Trevor Slattery.]]")'' Wait, what? ''("I'm [[spoiler:an actor. The Mandarin. See? He's not real.]]")'' [[NoJustNoReaction No. You can't do that.]] that]]. [[EvilIsCool They were doing]] such [[CreepyAwesome such a good job]] and they [[spoiler:turned him into a punchline?]] This is ComicBook/IronMan's [[ArchEnemy arch-fucking nemesis!]] This isn't just ignoring the comics, this is dropping their pants and [[CanonDefilement wiping their butt with them!]]
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-->''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''

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-->''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''
-->--''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''
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-->--'''Wiki/TFWikiDotNet''' caption for ''[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ultra_Pretender Ultra Pretender]]''

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-->--'''Wiki/TFWikiDotNet''' -->--'''Website/TFWikiDotNet''' caption for ''[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ultra_Pretender Ultra Pretender]]''
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->''Series/StarTrekPicard'' has one of the weirdest flaws i've ever seen in a show.\\
It's amazing at character, but it doesn't seem to know that it is.\\
It insists on drowning out its characters with buckets and buckets of plot.\\
There's such a maddening amount of wasted potential.\\\
Laris, Raffi, Elnor and Rios etc were characters who completely captivated me within moments of their introduction. There's such a natural aptitude for character design in this show.\\
But then the show just does everything it can to avoid taking advantage of this. It's bizarre.\\\
The show seems almost ashamed of these other characters. Like it thinks you're only here for [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard]] and [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Seven]] and it's worried it's wasting your time whenever the others are on screen.\\
But the others are the best bit ffs.
-->-- '''Daniel Orett''' on ''Series/StarTrekPicard'''s second season, [[https://twitter.com/SpacedockHQ/status/1522207516498677767 here]]
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->'''Joanna''': You've [[CelebrityCrush fancied her]] ever since we saw [[Creator/MonicaBellucci her]] in ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. You were incandescent with rage. "How could they sign her up for a Bond film and then only use her for about thirty seconds?"
->'''Roger''': I still feel the same.
-->''Radio/ConversationsFromALongMarriage''
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->For proof of concept, just imagine an alternate version of the story in which the Ganger Doctor and the regular Doctor, despite both being good guys, [[AHouseDivided fall on opposite sides]] because the Ganger Doctor is slightly more disturbed and moved by the agony of the Gangers and thus ends up in actual conflict. You’d have had a story that actually interrogates the underlying bias that says that oppressed populations should attempt assimilation and politely ask their oppressors to maybe stop killing them so much -- one where the moral center of the show is actually split. But instead we get both versions of the Doctor acting in perfect and tedious unity.
-->--'''Dr. El Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/ on]] ''Doctor Who'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS32E6TheAlmostPeople}} The Almost People]]

->A decentralised organisation engaged in seemingly random acts of violence and brutality, driven by a clearly religious faith in something beyond the perception of “outsiders”? A Star Trek villain that has moved beyond the “nation state” concept of “Star Empires” or “Unions” or “Central Commands”? And they happen to have a name that ties into [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the defining geopolitical conflict of our time?]] How do you mess that up?
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/05/01/star-trek-enterprise-regeneration-review/#comments Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''
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->"Now the thing about Bumblebee... I love the concept of what they were going for with this character. He's an unaffiliated drifter. When we open up the show, he doesn't even have the Autobot logo on his chest. Excellent. And I was thinking that throughout the course of the show, Bumblebee would find it within himself to join the Autobot cause because he sees that the Decepticons are much worse. Respecting his individuality, respecting his choices as a soldier, I wanted to see that personal growth. (''beat'') But no! [[ItMakesSenseInContext Magical space ghost.]] So essentially, Bumblebee was forced into the Autobot cause. Lame."
--> '''WebVideo/JobbyTheHong''' on ''WesternAnimation/TransformersWarForCybertronTrilogy''
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->A decentralised organisation engaged in seemingly random acts of violence and brutality, driven by a clearly religious faith in something beyond the perception of “outsiders”? A Star Trek villain that has moved beyond the “nation state” concept of “Star Empires” or “Unions” or “Central Commands”? And they happen to have a name that ties into [[TheWarOnTerror the defining geopolitical conflict of our time?]] How do you mess that up?

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->A decentralised organisation engaged in seemingly random acts of violence and brutality, driven by a clearly religious faith in something beyond the perception of “outsiders”? A Star Trek villain that has moved beyond the “nation state” concept of “Star Empires” or “Unions” or “Central Commands”? And they happen to have a name that ties into [[TheWarOnTerror [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the defining geopolitical conflict of our time?]] How do you mess that up?
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-->--'''Creator/JohnKricfalusi''' on [[Disney/PeterPan Captain Hook]], [[Blog/JohnKStuff "Disney Gets Almost Specific"]]

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-->--'''Creator/JohnKricfalusi''' on [[Disney/PeterPan [[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Captain Hook]], [[Blog/JohnKStuff "Disney Gets Almost Specific"]]

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