History Quotes / TheLeagueOfExtraOrdinaryGentlemen

-> " With the benefit of hindsight and a greater understanding of anthropoid behavior patterns, science fiction author Creator/PhilipJoseFarmer was able to demonstrate quite credibly that the young ''Franchise/{{Tarzan}}'' would almost certainly have indulged in sexual experimentation with chimpanzees and that he would just surely have had none of the aversion to eating human flesh that Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs attributed to him. As our political and social consciousness continues to evolve, ''[[Literature/KingSolomonsMines Allan Quartermain]]'' stands revealed as just another [[MightyWhitey white imperialist]] out to exploit the natives and we begin to see that the overriding factor in ''Franchise/JamesBond's'' psychological makeup is his utter hatred and contempt for women. Whether most of us would prefer to enjoy the above-mentioned gentlemen's adventures without spoiling things by considering the social implications is beside the point. The fact remains that [[SocietyMarchesOn we have changed, along with our society]], and that were such characters created today [[ValuesDissonance they would be subject to the most]] extreme suspicion and [[UnfortunateImplications criticism]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying, "[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that -- I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the early 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph -- the line isn't going up. [[NoExceptYes I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture -- in the mainstream -- has degenerated]] ... In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpajFQECzAk Interview with John Higgs]], Author of ''Stranger Than We Can Imagine: Making Sense of the Twentieth Century''

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying, "[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that -- I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the early 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph -- the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture -- in the mainstream -- has degenerated ... In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that -- I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the early 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph -- the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture -- in the mainstream -- has degenerated ... In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."

-> " With the benefit of hindsight and a greater understanding of anthropoid behavior patterns, science fiction author Creator/PhilipJoseFarmer was able to demonstrate quite credibly that the young ''Franchise/{{Tarzan}}'' would almost certainly have indulged in sexual experimentation with chimpanzees and that he would just surely have had none of the aversion to eating human flesh that Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs attributed to him. As our political and social consciousness continues to evolve, ''[[Literature/KingSolomonsMines Allan Quartermain]]'' stands revealed as just another [[MightyWhitey white imperialist]] out to exploit the natives and we begin to see that the overriding factor in ''Franchise/JamesBond's'' psychological makeup is his utter hatred and contempt for women. Whether most of us would prefer to enjoy the above-mentioned gentlemen's adventures without spoiling things by considering the social implications is beside the point. The fact remains that [[SocietyMarchesOn we have changed, along with our society]], and that were such characters created today [[ValuesDissonance they would be subject to the most]] extreme [[BaseBreaker suspicion]] and [[UnfortunateImplications criticism]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that -- I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph -- the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture -- in the mainstream -- has degenerated ... In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that -- I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]''."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"\\[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose ''[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera]'' as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing ''[[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]]'' as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"\\[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose [Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera] as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing [[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]] as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's Franchise/HarryPotter as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera Threepenny Opera]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"\\[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose [Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera] as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing [[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]] as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's Franchise/HarryPotter as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepenny Opera Threepenny Opera]]."

-> "I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"\\[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose\\ [Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera] as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing [[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's\\ Performance]] as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's Franchise/HarryPotter as representing a big\\ cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepenny Opera Threepenny Opera]]." -->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpajFQECzAk Interview with John Higgs]], Author of ''Stranger Than We Can Imagine: Making Sense of the Twentieth Century''

-> ''" With the benefit of hindsight and a greater understanding of anthropoid behavior patterns, science fiction author PhilipJoseFarmer was able to demonstrate quite credibly that the young {{Tarzan}} would almost certainly have indulged in sexual experimentation with chimpanzees and that he would just surely have had none of the aversion to eating human flesh that Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs attributed to him. As our political and social consciousness continues to evolve, [[Literature/KingSolomonsMines Allan Quartermain]] stands revealed as just another [[MightyWhitey white imperialist]] out to exploit the natives and we begin to see that the overriding factor in Franchise/JamesBond's psychological makeup is his utter hatred and contempt for women. Whether most of us would prefer to enjoy the above-mentioned gentlemen's adventures without spoiling things by considering the social implications is beside the point. The fact remains that [[SocietyMarchesOn we have changed, along with our society]], and that were such characters created today [[ValuesDissonance they would be subject to the most]] extreme [[BaseBreaker suspicion]] and [[UnfortunateImplications criticism]]."''

--> ''"I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying,"[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose
[Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera] as representing a big important cultural event of 1910. I don't think it was unfair choosing [[Film/{{Performance}} Donald Cammell's Performance]] as representing a big important cultural event in 1969 and I don't think it was unfair choosing Creator/JKRowling's Franchise/HarryPotter as representing a big cultural event in the earlt 21st Century. I would say that it you were to plot those things along the graph...the line isn't going up. I think that it's a fair comment that our approach to culture - in the mainstream - has degenerated. That the values that people used to put into a work of art, those have been eroded. Yeah, I was trying to express that in ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen because the whole of the League is about this massive planet of fiction that has been a counterpart to our world for as long as we have had fiction. We've made up this world, it's the world that we want, it's an exciting world where meaningful things happen. If you look at those two worlds there are interesting points of comparison...In ''Century'', it was using the League to look at the 21st Century from the point of view of 21st Century culture, to draw conclusions that seemed accurate. I wasn't saying that all culture in the late 21st Century was rubbish or I wasn't saying that culture was doomed. I was saying that mainstream culture [[FollowTheLeader was becoming repititive]], was not having original ideas, would no longer be capable of coming up with a ''Film/{{Performance}}'', leave alone a ''[[Theatre/TheThreepenny Opera Threepenny Opera]]''."''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpajFQECzAk Interview with John Higgs]], Author of ''Stranger Than We Can Imagine: Making Sense of the Twentieth Century''

--> ''"I got quite [[BrokenBase a bit of criticism for that]]. I know that people were saying after reading the third book, that it was my equivalent of saying, "[[NostalgiaFilter It were old fields around here once]]" which it wasn't, that wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying was that I don't think it was unfair to choose

-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''' ''The Mark of Batman'' Introduction to Creator/FrankMiller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' anticipating many of the themes he would tackle in the League.

-> ''" With the benefit of hindsight and a greater understanding of anthropoid behavior patterns, science fiction author PhilipJoseFarmer was able to demonstrate quite credibly that the young {{Tarzan}} would almost certainly have indulged in sexual experimentation with chimpanzees and that he would just surely have had none of the aversion to eating human flesh that EdgarRiceBurroughs attributed to him. As our political and social consciousness continues to evolve, [[Literature/KingSolomonsMines Alan Quartermain]] stands revealed as just another [[MightyWhitey white imperialist]] out to exploit the natives and we begin to see that the overriding factor in JamesBond's psychological makeup is his utter hatred and contempt for women. Whether most of us would prefer to enjoy the above-mentioned gentlemen's adventures without spoiling things by considering the social implications is beside the point. The fact remains that [[SocietyMarchesOn we have changed, along with our society]], and that were such characters created today [[ValuesDissonance they would be subject to the most]] extreme [[BaseBreaker suspicion]] and [[UnfortunateImplications criticism]]."''