History Quotes / PanderingToTheBase

->''"Well, folks, it's finally happened: After 3 years of development, after a double-headed crowdfunded campaign that [[DevelopmentHell split this game's release in half]], and after some internet drama that turned Double Fine into a punching bag in some circles, the first big crowdfunding project is finally complete...After all that work and drama, Kickstarter has finally made a--! ''[*{{losing horns}}*]'' --'nother game you can just [[SturgeonsLaw throw on the pile]]. ''Broken Age'' is an old-school point n' click adventure game brought to you by the creative lead behind SCUMM engine classics such as ''VideoGame/FullThrottle'', the ''VideoGame/MonkeyIsland'' series and ''VideoGame/GrimFandango''. It banks ''so'' hard on nostalgia for those old games that there's even an instant "Retro Mode" button that applies a [[StylisticSuck pixellation dithering filter]] right there on the spot. (Which isn't how pixel art is supposed to look at all.)"''

->''"My principal quarrel is not that established continuity was [[NegativeContinuity often disregarded]], nor that the latter seasons especially depend more on [[PanderingToTheBase fan service]] than they do on internal consistency of either character or plot, nor even with the carrot-and-stick setting of expectations and all-too-common [[ResetButton failure to deliver on them.]]\\\

In other words, Darkseid won our souls."''

In other words, Darkseid won our souls."''-->--'''[[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville-finale1 Neal Bailey]]'''

->Oh yes, and UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla shows up as a character -- which I feel always comes across as a transparent and desperate attempt to go ''"Oh, look at all the nerd cred we've got splattering wetly down our inner thighs"''.

->[[Creator/JohnNathanTurner Nathan-Turner]] isn’t making the program for the general public, who would have, on the whole, much preferred to see something that had an interesting idea beyond '[[TheUsualAdversaries Wow! Silurians! And Sea Devils!]]' He’s making it for ''Doctor Who'' fans, and then as much the ones in the US and Australia as the ones in the UK. If you’re not the sort of person who’s excited because a [[Creator/JonPertwee Pertwee]]-era monster is coming back, you’re no longer the sort of person the program is for...when the program so cavalierly discards the idea of doing interesting or relevant drama in favor of doing things that [[WeAllLiveInAmerica get cheered at American conventions]], frankly, there’s a real problem with it.
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/04/300-million-years-out-of-your-comfort.html on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'' ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsoftheDeep}} "Warriors of the Deep"]])

->I think a lot of people accept and embrace [[{{Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors}} The Five Doctors]] for what it is. It’s not a perfect piece of television (I’m not even sure it’s a decent piece of television), but it’s suitably nostalgic and we can forgive it those indulgences.\\\
However, turning the entire twentieth season into a glorified victory lap was a mistake. Decreeing that each of the season’s adventures should feature a returning adversary was missing the point a bit. One of the big problems towards the end of the [[Creator/PeterDavison Davison]] era, and into the Creator/ColinBaker era, was the tendency of ''Doctor Who'' to look backwards and inwards rather than forwards and outwards...It’s no coincidence that the two strongest stories of the season – [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS20E5Enlightenment}} Enlightenment]] and [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS20E2Snakedance}} Snakedance]] – were the two with the weakest links to the show’s past.

->The insane premises get worse and worse this season – this episode is based on the principle that the three nomad Ferengi characters have bypassed a Reg Barclay hologram in order to trick ''Voyager'' into a specific location where they can steal Seven of Nine’s nanoprobes and sell them! Where do I start with the bad? For a start, nobody does the Ferengi like ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' and these three characters are all completely forgettable and pretty irritating. Secondly: the Ferengi have the technical skill to put all this in place? Thirdly: isn’t there an easy way of making profit in the Alpha Quadrant without trying to exploit the [[ComplexityAddiction insanely over-complicated situation]] with ''Voyager'' in the Delta Quadrant? Fourthly: who the fuck would want Borg nanoprobes anyway? Basically ''Voyager'' wanted a slice of ''[=DS9=]'', didn’t they? Stories in the Alpha Quadrant are popular and Ferengi episodes were a hit with a certain crowd so they thought they could shove it all into one episode and hope that the average ''Star Trek'' fan would submit despite the nonsensical plot and ideas. Not ''this'' fan.

->'''Chris:''' So these are supposed to be the shareholders of [[EvilInc Stupidname Industries]], right? And I know that a couple of them are characters that have been on the show before, like Roulette and Toyman... But then you’ve got Captain Cold, who looks exactly like Captain Cold in the comics, right down [[FashionVictimVillain to the fur-lined powder blue parka]] in a show that won’t let Superman wear his costume, because that would be stupid. And then… And then… SOLOMON GRUNDY! THE ZOMBIE PLANT MONSTER! There is no reason for these characters to exist on this show. The only reason they’re there is because they were on ''SuperFriends'' 35 years ago, and there is no better example of how this show is just a exercise in trying to appeal to the idiotic dregs of fandom by showing them things they remember from when they were kids, without bothering to write an actual coherent story.\\
'''David''': I was [[HypocrisyNod really disappointed by the lack of swamp lair]], to be honest with you.
-->--Chris Sims and David Uzumeri [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-20-prophecy/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Prophecy")

->Twenty-one episodes of show built up to [[{{Anticlimax}} a one-hit kill]] for the main baddie whose origins, motivations, and personal rationale are never even remotely explored outside of 'Hey! Comic nerds! This thing you know, ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, is gonna be here, so watch, information fetishists!'\\\

In other words, Darkseid won our souls.
-->--'''[[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville-finale1 Neal Bailey]]'''

->Also, would someone tell the writers that dropping in references to obscure Marvel characters does not make for a better show? From a recurring character who becomes Deathlok, to unimpressive guest appearances by Graviton and Blackout and Lorelei, to awkward namedrops of Blizzard, Quasar, and the Griffin, I can assure them that no one other than hardcore Marvel fanatics cares about this stuff in the slightest. They need to spend less time researching old comic books and more time creating interesting ''original'' characters.

->One problem cited by critics familiar with the Batman mythos is ''{{Series/Gotham}}''[=’=]s inclusion of too many characters (with [[EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether forced relationships]]) at the onset. Like an all-you-can-eat buffet, the overstocked spread leaves us inexplicably unsatisfied.

->There is the inevitable reaction, “Mike and Bryan just caved in to the fans.” Well, which fans? There were plenty of Makorra shippers out there, so if we had gone back on our decision and gotten those characters back together, would that have meant we caved in to those fans instead? Either direction we went, there would inevitably be a faction that was elated and another that was devastated. Trust me, I remember Kataang vs. Zutara. But one of those directions is going to be the one that feels right to us, and Mike and I have always made both Avatar and Korra for us, first and foremost. We are lucky that so many other people around the world connect with these series as well. Tahno playing trombone––now that was us caving in to the fans!

->...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a [[CompensatingForSomething small penis]]. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[SexSells mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. '''Maybe he can fix that'''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business]] in Atlanta, they [[VocalMinority don't know the fucking difference.]]

'''Noah:''' But hey, just from the initial reactions I've seen on Twitter, apparently you and I are in the minority, because the reception to this pay-per-view has apparently been [[ViewersAreMorons very, very, good.]]\\

->It's got ''Ultima'' words, and ''Ultima'' pictures and characters in it. But it got it all wrong. The characters are all there, but they don't ''mean'' anything and they don't contribute anything. It's like ''KingdomHearts.''\\\

Whatever. You've got Cloud Strife fighting Donald Duck in Ancient Greece, kiss my pucker.

->''Ducktales Remastered''[='=]s levels are just lousy with cutscenes. I have no issue with an opening or closing sequence, but [[Creator/WayForwardTechnologies WayForward]] felt it necessary to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation stop me every five minutes]] so Scrooge and the gang could jabberjaw... Now, at first, I was excited to be watching what is essentially a bunch of new episodes of ''Ducktales''!\\\
And then I remembered: 'I'm a college graduate with an office job who enjoys ''Series/TheWire'' and ''Series/BreakingBad''. I don't give a shit about '''any''' of this anymore.'

->...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a [[CompensatingForSomething small penis]]. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[SexSells mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. ''Maybe he can fix that''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business in Atlanta,]] they don't know the fucking difference.

->...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a small penis. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[LowestCommonDenominator mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. ''Maybe he can fix that''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business in Atlanta,]] they don't know the fucking difference.

'''April:''' So basically, I'm gonna be getting more [[CriticalDissonance death threats]].

Which is kind of sad, exploitative, and unfair. Cruel, some might say. There are things about fanatics that, by the very nature of the term, make them almost religious in their zealotry...All of this goes to serve a broader indictment of what ''Smallville'' was as an entity. The putrefaction of an American myth to serve the higher gods of money.\\\

->[[Creator/JohnNathanTurner Nathan-Turner]] isn’t making the program for the general public, who would have, on the whole, much preferred to see something that had an interesting idea beyond '[[TheUsualAdversaries Wow! Silurians! And Sea Devils!]]' He’s making it for ''Doctor Who'' fans, and then as much the ones in the US and Australia as the ones in the UK. If you’re not the sort of person who’s excited because a [[Creator/JonPertwee Pertwee]]-era monster is coming back, you’re no longer the sort of person the program is for...when the program so cavalierly discards the idea of doing interesting or relevant drama in favor of doing things that get cheered at American conventions, frankly, there’s a real problem with it.

->'''April:''' The whole show seemed [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia-based]], which seems strange to me because there are so many new fans now. It seems like the fanbase of WWE has shifted; it seems like there are a lot more nerd and hipsters than there used to be, which is why people love [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] instead of the big huge muscle-guys. Of course, Wrestling/VinceMcMahon has never caught up to that, which why they never promote Daniel Bryan the way they should. But the fans have gotten nerdier--the fans have gotten ''smarter''--and while they might go back to watch old matches and have a sense of nostalgia the way I have a sense of nostalgia about ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 TMNT]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}}'', it's still not the same.\\

->'''April:''' The whole show seemed [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia-based]], which seems strange to me because there are so many new fans now. It seems like the fanbase of WWE has shifted; it seems like there are a lot more nerd and hipsters than there used to be, which is why people love [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] instead of the big huge muscle-guys. Of course, Wrestling/VinceMcMahon has never caught up to that, which why they never promote Daniel Bryan the way they should. But the fans have gotten nerdier--the fans have gotten ''smarter''--and while they might go back to watch old matches and have a sense of nostalgia the way I have a sense of nostalgia about ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}}'', it's still not the same.\\

->'''April:''' The whole show seemed [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia-based]], which seems strange to me because there are so many new fans now. It seems like the fanbase of WWE has shifted; it seems like there are a lot more nerd and hipsters than there used to be, which is why people love [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] instead of the big huge muscle-guys. Of course, Wrestling/VinceMcMahon has never caught up to that, which why they never promote Daniel Bryan the way they should. But the fans have gotten nerdier--the fans have gotten ''smarter''--and while they might go back to watch old matches and have a sense of nostalgia the way I have a sense of nostalgia about ''WesternAnimation/TeenagemutantNinjaTurtles'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}}'', it's still not the same.\\

->'''April:''' The whole show seemed [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia-based]], which seems strange to me because there are so many new fans now. It seems like the fanbase of WWE has shifted; it seems like there are a lot more nerd and hipsters than there used to be, which is why people love [[Wrestling/BrianDanielson Daniel Bryan]] instead of the big huge muscle-guys. Of course, Wrestling/VinceMcMahon has never caught up to that, which why they never promote Daniel Bryan the way they should. But the fans have gotten nerdier--the fans have gotten ''smarter''--and while they might go back to watch old matches and have a sense of nostalgia the way I have a sense of nostalgia about ''WesternAnimation/TeenagemutantNinjaTurtles'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}}'', it's still not the same.\\

->It's like, it's got ''Ultima'' words, and ''Ultima'' pictures and characters in it. But it got it all wrong. The characters are all there, but they don't ''mean'' anything and they don't contribute anything. It's like ''KingdomHearts.''\\\

->...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a small penis. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[LowestCommonDenominator mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. ''Maybe he can fix that''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business in Atlanta,]] they don't know the fucking difference.
-->--'''Wrestling/JimCornette''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMm0Alg0bvs on]] Wrestling/VinceRusso

->It's like, it's got ''Ultima'' words, and ''Ultima'' pictures and characters in it. But it got it all wrong. The characters are all there, but they don't ''mean'' anything and they don't contribute anything. It's like ''KingdomHearts.''\\\
''(chorus of boos)''\\\
Whatever. You've got Cloud Strife fighting Donald Duck in Ancient Greece, kiss my pucker.
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' on ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}: Runes of Virtue''

->''Ducktales Remastered''[='=]s levels are just lousy with cutscenes. I have no issue with an opening or closing sequence, but [[Creator/WayForwardTechnologies WayForward]] felt it necessary to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation stop me every five minutes]] so Scrooge and the gang could jabberjaw... Now, at first, I was excited to be watching what is essentially a bunch of new episodes of ''Ducktales''!\\\
And then I remembered: 'I'm a college graduate with an office job who enjoys ''Series/TheWire'' and ''Series/BreakingBad''. I don't give a shit about '''any''' of this anymore.'
-->--'''WebVideo/TheHappyVideoGameNerd''' on ''[[{{Videogame/Ducktales}} Ducktales Remastered]]''

->It's like, it's got ''Ultima'' words, and ''Ultima'' pictures and characters in it. But it got it all wrong. The characters are all their but they don't ''mean'' anything, and they don't contribute anything. It's like ''KingdomHearts.''\\\

-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/10/voyager-season-seven.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Inside Man"

->'''Chris:''' So these are supposed to be the shareholders of [[EvilInc Stupidname Industries]], right? And I know that a couple of them are characters that have been on the show before, like Roulette and Toyman... But then you’ve got Captain Cold, who looks exactly like Captain Cold in the comics, right down [[FashionVictimVillain to the fur-lined powder blue parka]] in a show that won’t let Superman wear his costume, because that would be stupid. And then… And then… SOLOMON GRUNDY! THE ZOMBIE PLANT MONSTER! There is no reason for these characters to exist on this show. The only reason they’re there is because they were on ''SuperFriends'' 35 years ago, and there is no better example of how this show is just a exercise in trying to appeal to the idiotic dregs of fandom by showing them things they remember from when they were kids, without bothering to write an actual coherent story.\\\

->''“Give the People what they want\\
And they'll get what they deserve”''
-->-- '''TheKinks'''

->''"...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a small penis. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[LowestCommonDenominator mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. ''Maybe he can fix that''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business in Atlanta,]] they don't know the fucking difference."''

->''"''Ducktales Remastered''[='=]s levels are just lousy with cutscenes. I have no issue with an opening or closing sequence, but [[Creator/WayForwardTechnologies WayForward]] felt it necessary to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation stop me every five minutes]] so Scrooge and the gang could jabberjaw... Now, at first, I was excited to be watching what is essentially a bunch of new episodes of ''Ducktales''! And then I remembered: 'I'm a college graduate with an office job who enjoys ''Series/TheWire'' and ''Series/BreakingBad''. I don't give a shit about ''any'' of this anymore.'"''

->''"[[Creator/JohnNathanTurner Nathan-Turner]] isn’t making the program for the general public, who would have, on the whole, much preferred to see something that had an interesting idea beyond '[[TheUsualAdversaries Wow! Silurians! And Sea Devils!]]' He’s making it for ''Doctor Who'' fans, and then as much the ones in the US and Australia as the ones in the UK. If you’re not the sort of person who’s excited because a [[Creator/JonPertwee Pertwee]]-era monster is coming back, you’re no longer the sort of person the program is for...when the program so cavalierly discards the idea of doing interesting or relevant drama in favor of doing things that get cheered at American conventions, frankly, there’s a real problem with it."''

->''"I think a lot of people accept and embrace [[{{Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors}} The Five Doctors]] for what it is. It’s not a perfect piece of television (I’m not even sure it’s a decent piece of television), but it’s suitably nostalgic and we can forgive it those indulgences.\\\
However, turning the entire twentieth season into a glorified victory lap was a mistake. Decreeing that each of the season’s adventures should feature a returning adversary was missing the point a bit. One of the big problems towards the end of the [[Creator/PeterDavison Davison]] era, and into the Creator/ColinBaker era, was the tendency of ''Doctor Who'' to look backwards and inwards rather than forwards and outwards...It’s no coincidence that the two strongest stories of the season – [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS20E5Enlightenment}} Enlightenment]] and [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS20E2Snakedance}} Snakedance]] – were the two with the weakest links to the show’s past."''

->''"The insane premises get worse and worse this season – this episode is based on the principle that the three nomad Ferengi characters have bypassed a Reg Barclay hologram in order to trick ''Voyager'' into a specific location where they can steal Seven of Nine’s nanoprobes and sell them! Where do I start with the bad? For a start, nobody does the Ferengi like ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' and these three characters are all completely forgettable and pretty irritating. Secondly: the Ferengi have the technical skill to put all this in place? Thirdly: isn’t there an easy way of making profit in the Alpha Quadrant without trying to exploit the [[ComplexityAddiction insanely over-complicated situation]] with ''Voyager'' in the Delta Quadrant? Fourthly: who the fuck would want Borg nanoprobes anyway? Basically ''Voyager'' wanted a slice of ''[=DS9=]'', didn’t they? Stories in the Alpha Quadrant are popular and Ferengi episodes were a hit with a certain crowd so they thought they could shove it all into one episode and hope that the average ''Star Trek'' fan would submit despite the nonsensical plot and ideas. Not ''this'' fan. "''

->'''Chris:''' So these are supposed to be the shareholders of [[EvilInc Stupidname Industries]], right? And I know that a couple of them are characters that have been on the show before, like Roulette and Toyman... But then you’ve got Captain Cold, who looks exactly like Captain Cold in the comics, right down [[FashionVictimVillain to the fur-lined powder blue parka]] in a show that won’t let Superman wear his costume, because that would be stupid. And then… And then… SOLOMON GRUNDY! THE ZOMBIE PLANT MONSTER! There is no reason for these characters to exist on this show. The only reason they’re there is because they were on ''SuperFriends'' 35 years ago, and there is no better example of how this show is just a exercise in trying to appeal to the idiotic dregs of fandom by showing them things they remember from when they were kids, without bothering to write an actual coherent story.
->'''David''': I was [[HypocrisyNod really disappointed by the lack of swamp lair]], to be honest with you.
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-20-prophecy/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Prophecy")

->''"Twenty-one episodes of show built up to [[{{Anticlimax}} a one-hit kill]] for the main baddie whose origins, motivations, and personal rationale are never even remotely explored outside of 'Hey! Comic nerds! This thing you know, ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, is gonna be here, so watch, information fetishists!'\\\

In other words, Darkseid won our souls."''

->''"Also, would someone tell the writers that dropping in references to obscure Marvel characters does not make for a better show? From a recurring character who becomes Deathlok, to unimpressive guest appearances by Graviton and Blackout and Lorelei, to awkward namedrops of Blizzard, Quasar, and the Griffin, I can assure them that no one other than hardcore Marvel fanatics cares about this stuff in the slightest. They need to spend less time researching old comic books and more time creating interesting ''original'' characters."''

->''"One problem cited by critics familiar with the Batman mythos is ''{{Series/Gotham}}''[=’=]s inclusion of too many characters (with [[EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether forced relationships]]) at the onset. Like an all-you-can-eat buffet, the overstocked spread leaves us inexplicably unsatisfied."''

->''"...Then, he slowly plays to the internet fans. Because Russo--see, he probably has a small penis. And since he knows that he [[PointyHairedBoss doesn't know what the fuck he's doing]], he has to have positive feedback and reinforcement to make his ego grow. So, he doesn't wanna sell the buildings out; he doesn't wanna have a great TV show; he doesn't wanna produce a product that he can be proud of --'Wow, that was a classic match between two excellent athletes' -- he wants to do fuckin' [[LowestCommonDenominator mud wrestling with two silicone-titted bimbos]] 'cause he's sexually frustrated, and he wants the internet fans to think he's great, because ''they're'' the ones he can listen to. Because the ''other'' fans, the ones that pay the money for all the tickets, they're cheering the stars. And guess what?: He ain't a star. He ain't on TV. He's just a writer. ''Maybe he can fix that''... The internet people are stroking him enough that the ''other'' marks, the ones [[{{WCW}} running the multi-million dollar business in Atlanta,]] they don't know the fucking difference."''

->''"The insane premises get worse and worse this season – this episode is based on the principle that the three nomad Ferengi characters have bypassed a Reg Barclay hologram in order to trick ''Voyager'' into a specific location where they can steal Seven of Nine’s nanoprobes and sell them! Where do I start with the bad? For a start, nobody does the Ferengi like ''[[Series/StarTrek DeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' and these three characters are all completely forgettable and pretty irritating. Secondly: the Ferengi have the technical skill to put all this in place? Thirdly: isn’t their an easy way of making profit in the Alpha Quadrant without trying to exploit the [[ComplexityAddiction insanely over-complicated situation]] with ''Voyager'' in the Delta Quadrant? Fourthly: who the fuck would want Borg nanoprobes anyway? Basically ''Voyager'' wanted a slice of ''[=DS9=]'', didn’t they? Stories in the Alpha Quadrant are popular and Ferengi episodes were a hit with a certain crowd so they thought they could shove it all into one episode and hope that the average ''Star Trek'' fan would submit despite the nonsensical plot and ideas. Not ''this'' fan. "''

->''"Sticking Boothby in the grounds of Starfleet HQ is another direct rip off from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]. Voyager'' seriously needs to look at its own individuality and try and recognise that it has none. The very idea of bringing back Species 8472 this long after their last appearance once again leaves me questioning the logic of the [[TheHomewardJourney journey home]]. Didn’t they get a massive push forward again at the end of 'Hope and Fear' last season? How far does fluidic space extend? Now, let's look at the insane logic of them attempting to pull of [[WeAllLiveInAmerica an exact replica of Starfleet HQ]], which doesn’t make any practical sense since they are so far away from the Alpha Quadrant the human race will hardly pose a threat. The idea of a training ground to prepare for an invasion is a very old idea but it does have some merit; however, what is going on here is much more tedious than that. It strikes me of some clever dick on the ''Voyager'' staff thinking this kind of ratings pleasing familiar imagery is the right way to run this show. The next thing you know they will be [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Timeless_%28episode%29 bringing back Geordi La Forge]] just to give the ratings a boost! ...Forgive me for not wanting to thinking about Chakotay and a member of Species 8472 (why didn’t they give them a decent name?) enjoying ''Pon Farr'' night in a Vulcan nightclub! There is so much that is wrong with that sentence it would tire me to point it all out. The two of them getting off with each other as '[[DidYouJustRomanceCthulu part of their training]]?' Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!"''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/07/voyager-season-five.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Flesh and Blood"

->''"Sticking Boothby in the grounds of Starfleet HQ is another direct rip off from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]''. Voyager seriously needs to look at its own individuality and try and recognise that it has none. The very idea of bringing back Species 8472 this long after their last appearance once again leaves me questioning the logic of the [[TheHomewardJourney journey home]]. Didn’t they get a massive push forward again at the end of 'Hope and Fear' last season? How far does fluidic space extend? Now, let's look at the insane logic of them attempting to pull of [[WeAllLiveInAmerica an exact replica of Starfleet HQ]], which doesn’t make any practical sense since they are so far away from the Alpha Quadrant the human race will hardly pose a threat. The idea of a training ground to prepare for an invasion is a very old idea but it does have some merit; however, what is going on here is much more tedious than that. It strikes me of some clever dick on the ''Voyager'' staff thinking this kind of ratings pleasing familiar imagery is the right way to run this show. The next thing you know they will be [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Timeless_%28episode%29 bringing back Geordi La Forge]] just to give the ratings a boost! ...Forgive me for not wanting to thinking about Chakotay and a member of Species 8472 (why didn’t they give them a decent name?) enjoying ''Pon Farr'' night in a Vulcan nightclub! There is so much that is wrong with that sentence it would tire me to point it all out. The two of them getting off with each other as '[[DidYouJustRomanceCthulu part of their training]]?' Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!"''

->'''Chris:''' So these are supposed to be the shareholders of [[EvilInc Stupidname Industries]], right? And I know that a couple of them are characters that have been on the show before, like Roulette and Toyman... But then you’ve got Captain Cold, who looks exactly like Captain Cold in the comics, right down [[FashionVictimVillain to the fur-lined powder blue parka]] in a show that won’t let Superman wear his costume, because that would be stupid. And then… And then… SOLOMON GRUNDY! THE ZOMBIE PLANT MONSTER! There is no reason for these characters to exist on this show. The only reason they’re there is because they were on ''SuperFriends'' 35 years ago, and there is no better example of how this show is just a exercise in trying to appeal to the idiotic dregs of fandom by showing them things they remember from when they were kids, without bothering to write an actual coherent story.\\
'''David''': I was [[IResembleThatRemark really disappointed by the lack of swamp lair]], to be honest with you.

->''"And spare me the thought of [[BrainBleach Tom and Harry getting it on]] -- in parts The Chute feels as though it exists purely to [[ShipTease keep the slash writers happy]]."''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/voyager-season-three.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "The Chute"

->''"One problem cited by critics familiar with the Batman mythos is ''{{Series/Gotham}}''[=’=]s inclusion of too many characters (with [[EverybodyWentToSchoolTogether forced relationships]]) at the onset. Like an all-you-can-eat buffet, the overstocked spread leaves us inexplicably unsatisfied."''