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->'''Tarquin:''' Frankly, I'm surprised you agreed to show up. Our past differences aside, you of all people should be able to see the shape of this.\\
'''Julio:''' Oh, sure--[[GenreSavvy the wise old mentor who trained the hero always gets killed in these stories.]] That's why I told him to get bent. It was his '''second''' Sending that eventually convinced me.\\
'''Elan, in flashback:''' The hero of any story can defy danger--but only a special hero can defy '''stories themselves.''' And wouldn't that make a cool story anyway?\\
'''Julio:''' And you know me, Tarkie--I just love to '''fly in the face''' of tradition!
-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''', defying story conventions in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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-> '''"Mentors die like it's going out of style! The only deadlier professions in fiction are "night watchman in a government facility", "street tough in a biker bar" and "[[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest mom]]""'.
-->-- ''Red, WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi8_1Pka1Y Trope Talk: Mentors]])

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-> '''"Mentors ->''"Mentors die like it's going out of style! The only deadlier professions in fiction are "night watchman in a government facility", "street tough in a biker bar" and "[[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest mom]]""'.
mom]]."''
-->-- ''Red, WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi8_1Pka1Y Trope Talk: Mentors]])Mentors]], 8:07)
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-> '''Red:''' Mentors die like it's going out of style! The only deadlier professions in fiction are "night watchman in a government facility", "street tough in a biker bar" and "[[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest mom]]".
-->-- ''WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi8_1Pka1Y Trope Talk: Mentors]])

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-> '''Red:''' Mentors '''"Mentors die like it's going out of style! The only deadlier professions in fiction are "night watchman in a government facility", "street tough in a biker bar" and "[[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest mom]]".
mom]]""'.
-->-- ''WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ''Red, WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi8_1Pka1Y Trope Talk: Mentors]])
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-> '''Red:''' Mentors die like it's going out of style! The only deadlier professions in fiction are "night watchman in a government facility", "street tough in a biker bar" and "[[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest mom]]".
-->-- ''WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi8_1Pka1Y Trope Talk: Mentors]])
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''(Gavin rips off a piece of paper that conceals a frame showing his funeral)''\\

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''(Gavin rips off a piece of paper that conceals concealing a frame showing depicting his funeral)''\\
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''(Gavin rips off a piece of paper that conceals a frame that shows his funeral)''\\

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->'''Writer #1:''' Sir Gavin buddy, how's it going?\\
'''[[MentorArchetype Sir Gavin:]]''' [[RageAgainstTheAuthor Not good. I've been doing some research and I'm very concerned about this movie!]]\\
'''Writer #3:''' Can we help you with something?\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' Yes, you can promise not to kill me.\\
''(all the writers laugh nervously before quickly hiding their scripts)''\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' So... you promise not to kill me?\\
'''Writer #2:''' Gavin. You are a main character, buddy.\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' Yes, but ''mentor'' characters like ''me'' always die. There's [[Franchise/StarWars Qui-Gon Jinn,]] [[Franchise/StarTrek Captain Pike,]] [[Film/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Aslan-]]\\
'''Writer #3:''' But we made ''you'' an awesome fighter like [[Franchise/StarWars Obi-Wan]] or [[Franchise/HarryPotter Sirius Black-]]\\
'''Writer #1:''' Or [[Franchise/StarWars Yoda.]]\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' [[NotHelpingYourCase Okay, you know all those people are dead, right?]]\\
'''Writer #2:''' Gavin, calm down, okay? Mentors are tough.\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' Really? Because they all seem to die very ''wussy'' deaths! [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Like falling off a cliff]] ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings after]]'' [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings the Balrog let go,]] [[Film/HarryPotter or contracting magical arm cancer and then committing]] ''[[Film/HarryPotter "Snape-Assisted Suicide"!]]''\\
'''Writer #1:''' Is there any way you'll trust us?\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' Yes, you can let me help with the story. ''(walks over to the whiteboard)''\\
''(all the writers panic)''\\
'''Writer #2:''' Oh no no no no! No!\\
'''Sir Gavin:''' ''(gasps)'' You guys are storyboarding my death?!\\
'''Writer #1:''' NO! No, we're not! ''(laughs nervously)''\\
''(Gavin rips off a piece of paper that conceals a frame that shows his funeral)''\\
'''Writer #1:''' ''(defeated)'' Yes we are.
-->-- ''Series/StudioC'' (Disney Plans Hero's Death)
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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', '''Gordon Edgeley''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''



->''"I don't think [[spoiler:Tony]] would have [[HeroicSacrifice done what he did]] if he didn't know you were going to be here after he was gone."''

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->''"I don't think [[spoiler:Tony]] Tony would have [[HeroicSacrifice done what he did]] if he didn't know you were going to be here after he was gone."''
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->''He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost [[ParentalAbandonment at the age of one]], that the shelter of a parent’s arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; the last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone than he had ever been before.''

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->''He ->He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost [[ParentalAbandonment at the age of one]], that the shelter of a parent’s arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; the last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone than he had ever been before.''

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->''"I don't think [[spoiler:Tony]] would have done what he did if he didn't know you were going to be here after he was gone."''
-->-- '''Happy Hogan''', ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome''

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->''"I don't think [[spoiler:Tony]] would have [[HeroicSacrifice done what he did did]] if he didn't know you were going to be here after he was gone."''
-->-- '''Happy Hogan''', ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome''Hogan''' to Peter Parker, ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome''
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-->--'''[[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Ajani Goldmane]]''', ''[[http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/release-2016-10-05 "Release"]]''

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-->--'''[[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Ajani Goldmane]]''', ''[[http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/release-2016-10-05 "Release"]]''"Release"]]''

->''"I don't think [[spoiler:Tony]] would have done what he did if he didn't know you were going to be here after he was gone."''
-->-- '''Happy Hogan''', ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome''
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->''"[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear."''

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->''"[[GenreSavvy ->''"[[LampshadeHanging The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging dying is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear."''
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->''"Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge--so don't take it personally if I say that I sincerely hope we never cross paths again."''
-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''' (to Elan), ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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-->-- '''Dumbledore''', ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', chapter 20

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-->-- '''Dumbledore''', ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', chapter 2020

->''"In the stories my people tell—[[TheHerosJourney the old ones, the ones that matter]]—the hero loses her mentor. She lives, grieves, and moves on to save the world."''
-->--'''[[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Ajani Goldmane]]''', ''[[http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/release-2016-10-05 "Release"]]''
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-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''' (to Elan), ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

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-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''' (to Elan), ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

->''He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost [[ParentalAbandonment at the age of one]], that the shelter of a parent’s arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; the last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone than he had ever been before.''
-->-- ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince''

->''"Harry... you must realize that if you choose this man as your teacher and your friend, your first mentor, then one way or another you will lose him, and the manner in which you lose him may or may not allow you to ever get him back."''
-->-- '''Dumbledore''', ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', chapter 20
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--> ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

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--> -->-- ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland''
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-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

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-->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''', Scoundrel''' (to Elan), ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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->-- '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

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->-- -->-- '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''



-->'''Julio Scoundrel''', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

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-->'''Julio -->-- '''Julio Scoundrel''', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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--> '''''Mentor.''' A Tour official who will be at your service until halfway through the Tour, at which point you will unaccountably lose him. ... He will reappear, [[SpiritAdvisor smugger and bossier than ever, near the end of the Tour]], just when you thought you were doing rather well on your own.''
---> ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

-->''[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear.''
---> '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

--> '''Julio''': Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge—so don't take it personally if I say that I sincerely hope we never cross paths again.
---> Julio Scoundrel, ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

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--> -> '''''Mentor.''' A Tour official who will be at your service until halfway through the Tour, at which point you will unaccountably lose him. ... He will reappear, [[SpiritAdvisor smugger and bossier than ever, near the end of the Tour]], just when you thought you were doing rather well on your own.''
---> --> ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

-->''[[GenreSavvy ->''"[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear.''
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'''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

--> '''Julio''': Well, ->''"Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge—so revenge--so don't take it personally if I say that I sincerely hope we never cross paths again.
---> Julio Scoundrel,
again."''
-->'''Julio Scoundrel''',
''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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---> ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

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---> ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland''
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---> Julio Scoundrel, ''TheOrderOfTheStick''

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---> Julio Scoundrel, ''TheOrderOfTheStick''''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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---> '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

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---> '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

--> '''Julio''': Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge—so don't take it personally if I say that I sincerely hope we never cross paths again.
---> Julio Scoundrel, ''TheOrderOfTheStick''
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-->'''[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear.'''

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-->'''[[GenreSavvy -->''[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear.'''''
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---> ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

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---> ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland''''TheToughGuideToFantasyland''

-->'''[[GenreSavvy The mentor figure dying]] [[LampshadeHanging is all part of the hero's journey]], my dear.'''
---> '''[[spoiler: Gordon Edgeley]]''', ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant''

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