History Quotes / MagnumOpusDissonance

5th Apr '16 7:44:59 AM Prfnoff
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-->--'''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/eternaldaughter/eternaldaughter.htm Maciej Miszczyk]]'''

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-->--'''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/eternaldaughter/eternaldaughter.htm Maciej Miszczyk]]'''Miszczyk]]''', ''Website/HardcoreGaming101''
10th Jan '16 4:18:57 PM hamonrye
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->As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'...What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, [[GrowingTheBeard the most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally officially canceled in 1989.
-->--''[[http://soda-pop-art.blogspot.com/2013/11/an-introduction-to-classic-doctor-who.html Soda Pop Art]]'', "An Introduction to Classic ''Series/DoctorWho''"

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->As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and ->Are you telling me this is how good it could have been since [[Creator/StevenMoffat he]] took over? ...It's a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led bold move to show the Doctor this afraid and this menaced by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked his personal demons since he is our constant companion in this show and he is the one that the kiddies latch onto for comfort. Goodness knows what he thought the purpose they made of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'...What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising existential nightmare--I can imagine they were either sitting there in a cold sweat or yawning throughout. Funnily enough this is one of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, [[GrowingTheBeard the most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally officially canceled in 1989.
-->--''[[http://soda-pop-art.
those stories that I [[HypocrisyNod probably won't revisit too often.]]
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.
blogspot.com/2013/11/an-introduction-to-classic-doctor-who.co.uk/2015/12/heaven-sent-written-by-steven-moffat.html Soda Pop Art]]'', "An Introduction to Classic ''Series/DoctorWho''"
Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent}} "Heaven Sent"]]
3rd Aug '15 1:31:35 PM johnnyfog
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->Stallone does pretty well for himself, playing a partially deaf small town sheriff, holding his own against Harvey Keitel and Robert [=DeNiro=] of all people. The fact that he matches two of the best actors working today punch for punch without getting blown off the screen is pretty remarkable. Damn shame the film failed.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Arnold_vs_Sly_King_of_the_Action_Heroes.aspx?Page=2 on]] ''Film/{{Copland}}''
31st Jul '15 7:37:38 PM johnnyfog
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->Chris Carter had created ''{{Series/Millennium}}'', and it was clearly a show that meant a lot to him. While ''Series/TheXFiles'' was populist and accessible, Millennium always felt like more of an auteur project. It was solemn, abstract, contemplative. There is a sense that he was quite disappointed when his attention was diverted away from the show in its second year. Carter has talked time and time again about how he created ''Millennium'' as an examination of evil in the world.

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->Chris Carter had created ''{{Series/Millennium}}'', and it was clearly a show that meant a lot to him. While ''Series/TheXFiles'' was populist and accessible, Millennium ''Millennium'' always felt like more of an auteur project. It was solemn, abstract, contemplative. There is a sense that he was quite disappointed when his attention was diverted away from the show in its second year. Carter has talked time and time again about how he created ''Millennium'' as an examination of evil in the world.
31st Jul '15 7:36:48 PM johnnyfog
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->In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, [[TallPoppySyndrome there is a tendency to slap him down.]] It is just too much of an affront to all the compromises and little ethical deaths that happen every day all over town.

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->In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood
->Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, [[TallPoppySyndrome there is a tendency to slap him down.]] It is just too much of an affront to all the compromises and little ethical deaths that happen every day all over town.



->As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, [[GrowingTheBeard the most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally officially canceled in 1989.

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->As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, [[GrowingTheBeard the most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally officially canceled in 1989.



->It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day.

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->It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' ->Chris Carter had created ''{{Series/Millennium}}'', and it was clearly a naive attempt show that meant a lot to break him. While ''Series/TheXFiles'' was populist and accessible, Millennium always felt like more of an auteur project. It was solemn, abstract, contemplative. There is a sense that he was quite disappointed when his attention was diverted away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans the show in its second year. Carter has talked time and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) time again about how he created ''Millennium'' as an examination of evil in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When world.
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/07/30/millennium-seven-and-one-review/ Darren Mooney]]'''

->When
I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty MGS2]]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day.



->There are many indie platformers more well known than ''VideoGame/EternalDaughter'' -- and that's a real shame because there aren't many indie platformers as good as ''Eternal Daughter''. Despite its relative popularity in the early 2000s (a few years before independently made games caught the attention of mainstream audiences), the game is mostly forgotten nowadays. What could have been the American equivalent of ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' (in fact, Eternal Daughter shares a few similarities with Studio Pixel's masterpiece) has instead faded into obscurity. While one of its creators, Derek Yu, later went on to make ''{{VideoGame/Aquaria}}'' and ''{{VideoGame/Spelunky}}'', his best game remains severely underappreciated.

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->There are many indie platformers more well known than ''VideoGame/EternalDaughter'' -- and that's a real shame because there aren't many indie platformers as good as ''Eternal Daughter''. Despite its relative popularity in the early 2000s (a few years before independently made games caught the attention of mainstream audiences), the game is mostly forgotten nowadays. What could have been the American equivalent of ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' (in fact, Eternal Daughter shares a few similarities with Studio Pixel's masterpiece) has instead faded into obscurity. While one of its creators, Derek Yu, later went on to make ''{{VideoGame/Aquaria}}'' and ''{{VideoGame/Spelunky}}'', his best game remains severely underappreciated.
29th Apr '15 1:50:49 PM Tuckerscreator
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->Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.
-->-- '''Louisa May Alcott''''s vicarious description of her experience writing ''LittleWomen'', from ''Jo's Boys''



->In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, [[TallPoppySyndrome there is a tendency to slap him down.]] It is just too much of an affront to all the compromises and little ethical deaths that happen every day all over town.
-->--'''Creator/RogerEbert''' on ''Film/TheColorPurple''


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->'''[[CorruptCorporateExecutive Milo]]:''' If they're so great, how come they're not tearing up the charts, babe?\\
'''Rex:''' Because you never play them, ''babe''. You suck.
-->-- '''''Film/{{Airheads}}'''''


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->In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, [[TallPoppySyndrome there is a tendency to slap him down.]] It is just too much of an affront to all the compromises and little ethical deaths that happen every day all over town.
-->--'''Creator/RogerEbert''' on ''Film/TheColorPurple''
17th Mar '15 4:34:21 PM DavidDelony
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->The worse it is, the better it sells.
-->--'''Music/LouReed''', attributed.
30th Jan '15 10:09:30 AM johnnyfog
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->''"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything [[TallPoppySyndrome except genius.]]"''

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->''"The ->The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything [[TallPoppySyndrome except genius.]]"'']]



->''"Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"

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->''"Her ->Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"



->"''I've made hundreds of legendary records that people talk about that didn't sell.''"

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->"''I've ->I've made hundreds of legendary records that people talk about that didn't sell.''"



->''"Readers choose which books and stories they'll care about most and remember best, and if I am remembered only for [[Literature/EndersGame a novel I wrote in 1984]], and not for the better books I wrote after that, I'm not going to complain: Writers are lucky if readers care about and remember any of their works, and a writer is a fool if he criticizes his readers for liking the wrong book."''

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->''"Readers ->Readers choose which books and stories they'll care about most and remember best, and if I am remembered only for [[Literature/EndersGame a novel I wrote in 1984]], and not for the better books I wrote after that, I'm not going to complain: Writers are lucky if readers care about and remember any of their works, and a writer is a fool if he criticizes his readers for liking the wrong book."''



->''"In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.''
->''Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, there is a tendency to slap him down. It is just too much of an affront to all [[ArtistDisillusionment the compromises and little ethical deaths]] that happen every day all over town."''

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->''"In ->'''QT:''' It usually has to do with ''one'' film. I mean, like, you see them growing, or building, or whatever, and they do one film, and usually it's a film that they're very personal about, that they care a lot about, and not only does it not do well, it's not recognized. Okay, now maybe they did a bad job with it, or maybe they did a terrific job with it, all right? But they get nothing for it. They get slapped in the face for it. And you could tell that the film had a real personal feeling to them.\\
'''Rose:''' Yeah. They really had put it out on the table.\\
'''QT:''' They really put it out on the table. And then, from that point on, you can just see all of a sudden [[ArtistDisillusionment they started doing star vehicles.]]
-->-- '''''Charlie Rose''''', 1996 interview with Creator/QuentinTarantino

->In
Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.''
->''Hollywood
\\\
Hollywood
gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, [[TallPoppySyndrome there is a tendency to slap him down. down.]] It is just too much of an affront to all [[ArtistDisillusionment the compromises and little ethical deaths]] deaths that happen every day all over town."''



->''"There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''... I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''

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->''"There ->There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''... I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''



->''"As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] in 1989."''

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->''"As ->As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard the most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] canceled in 1989."''



->''"It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''

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->''"It ->It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''



->''"There are many indie platformers more well known than ''VideoGame/EternalDaughter'' -- and that's a real shame because there aren't many indie platformers as good as ''Eternal Daughter''. Despite its relative popularity in the early 2000s (a few years before independently made games caught the attention of mainstream audiences), the game is mostly forgotten nowadays. What could have been the American equivalent of ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' (in fact, Eternal Daughter shares a few similarities with Studio Pixel's masterpiece) has instead faded into obscurity. While one of its creators, Derek Yu, later went on to make ''{{VideoGame/Aquaria}}'' and ''{{VideoGame/Spelunky}}'', his best game remains severely underappreciated."''

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->''"There ->There are many indie platformers more well known than ''VideoGame/EternalDaughter'' -- and that's a real shame because there aren't many indie platformers as good as ''Eternal Daughter''. Despite its relative popularity in the early 2000s (a few years before independently made games caught the attention of mainstream audiences), the game is mostly forgotten nowadays. What could have been the American equivalent of ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' (in fact, Eternal Daughter shares a few similarities with Studio Pixel's masterpiece) has instead faded into obscurity. While one of its creators, Derek Yu, later went on to make ''{{VideoGame/Aquaria}}'' and ''{{VideoGame/Spelunky}}'', his best game remains severely underappreciated."''
29th Dec '14 9:18:17 PM johnnyfog
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->''"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything [[BaitAndSwitchComment except genius.]]"''

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!!!Creators
->''"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything [[BaitAndSwitchComment [[TallPoppySyndrome except genius.]]"''



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->''"Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"\\
-- '''Louisa May Alcott''''s vicarious description of her experience writing ''LittleWomen'', from ''Jo's Boys''

->"''I've made hundreds of legendary records that people talk about that didn't sell.''"\\
--'''Jerry Wexler'''

->''"Readers choose which books and stories they'll care about most and remember best, and if I am remembered only for [[Literature/EndersGame a novel I wrote in 1984]], and not for the better books I wrote after that, I'm not going to complain: Writers are lucky if readers care about and remember any of their works, and a writer is a fool if he criticizes his readers for liking the wrong book."''\\
-- '''Creator/OrsonScottCard'''

->''"In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, there is a tendency [[TallPoppySyndrome to slap him down]]. It is just too much of an affront to all [[ArtistDisillusionment the compromises and little ethical deaths]] that happen every day all over town."''\\
--'''Creator/RogerEbert''' on ''Film/TheColorPurple''

->''"There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''... I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''\\
--'''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/jb/jb.htm#army Jeremy Blaustein]]''', on whether there are games besides ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' he'd rather be known for

->''"As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] in 1989."''\\
--''[[http://soda-pop-art.blogspot.com/2013/11/an-introduction-to-classic-doctor-who.html Soda Pop Art]]'', "An Introduction to Classic ''Series/DoctorWho''"

->''"It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''\\
--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://metagearsolid.org/2013/12/only-for-revenge/ "Only For Revenge"]]

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->''"Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"\\
--
''"
-->--
'''Louisa May Alcott''''s vicarious description of her experience writing ''LittleWomen'', from ''Jo's Boys''

->"''I've made hundreds of legendary records that people talk about that didn't sell.''"\\
--'''Jerry
''"
-->--'''Jerry
Wexler'''

->''"Readers choose which books and stories they'll care about most and remember best, and if I am remembered only for [[Literature/EndersGame a novel I wrote in 1984]], and not for the better books I wrote after that, I'm not going to complain: Writers are lucky if readers care about and remember any of their works, and a writer is a fool if he criticizes his readers for liking the wrong book."''\\
--
"''
-->--
'''Creator/OrsonScottCard'''

->''"In Hollywood, ''The Color Purple'' was widely seen, rightly or wrongly as [[Creator/StevenSpielberg Spielberg's]] bid for a different kind of acclaim. He deliberately set out ([[OscarBait you can hear people say]]) to buy an important novel such as ''The Color Purple'' and make it into an important film, and show that he had political and social convictions to go along with his storytelling skills.\\\
Hollywood
''
->''Hollywood
gets perverse about situations like that. It understands very well why a man might spend a year making a movie that a 13-year-old would disdain as trash. But if a man blessed with great success tries to do something really wonderful, there is a tendency [[TallPoppySyndrome to slap him down]].down. It is just too much of an affront to all [[ArtistDisillusionment the compromises and little ethical deaths]] that happen every day all over town."''\\
--'''Creator/RogerEbert'''
"''
-->--'''Creator/RogerEbert'''
on ''Film/TheColorPurple''

->''"There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''... I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''\\
--'''[[http://www.
"''
-->--'''[[http://www.
hardcoregaming101.net/jb/jb.htm#army Jeremy Blaustein]]''', on whether there are games besides ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' he'd rather be known for

!!!Reviews
->''"As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] in 1989."''\\
--''[[http://soda-pop-art.
"''
-->--''[[http://soda-pop-art.
blogspot.com/2013/11/an-introduction-to-classic-doctor-who.html Soda Pop Art]]'', "An Introduction to Classic ''Series/DoctorWho''"

->''"It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''\\
--'''Terry
"''
-->--'''Terry
Wolf''', [[http://metagearsolid.org/2013/12/only-for-revenge/ "Only For Revenge"]]Revenge"]]

->''"There are many indie platformers more well known than ''VideoGame/EternalDaughter'' -- and that's a real shame because there aren't many indie platformers as good as ''Eternal Daughter''. Despite its relative popularity in the early 2000s (a few years before independently made games caught the attention of mainstream audiences), the game is mostly forgotten nowadays. What could have been the American equivalent of ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' (in fact, Eternal Daughter shares a few similarities with Studio Pixel's masterpiece) has instead faded into obscurity. While one of its creators, Derek Yu, later went on to make ''{{VideoGame/Aquaria}}'' and ''{{VideoGame/Spelunky}}'', his best game remains severely underappreciated."''
-->--'''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/eternaldaughter/eternaldaughter.htm Maciej Miszczyk]]'''
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->''"There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''...I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''\\

to:

->''"There are indeed. And the game that comes most to mind when I say that is ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts Covenant''... I think it was released alongside a ''Franchise/{{Final Fantasy}}'', and you literally couldn't have timed the thing worse if you wanted to. So yeah, I wish fans could have seen that one. And it got good reviews -- everyone said it was great, one magazine said it was the best RPG of the year or something. It was critically acclaimed. It was by a real dark horse Japanese company too, some company called Sacanoth did it. And I know those guys worked their brains off too. This represented so much, it had so much effort. That's the remarkable thing about games -- the good ones, the creators put so much effort, so much of their hearts into it, and they're not recognised. The industry is so rife with irony, the whole situation."''\\



->''"As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'...the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] in 1989."''\\

to:

->''"As a result of demands placed on him by the BBC as well as his own desperate attempt at both salvaging the series and being able to retire comfortably, [[Creator/JohnNathanTurner (John) Nathan-Turner]] purged the entire ''Doctor Who'' production staff in 1987 and took a chance on a bunch of brash young upstarts led by new script editor Andrew Cartmel: A person who, when asked what he thought the purpose of ''Doctor Who'' was, gave the absolutely delightful answer 'to bring down the government'... the Cartmel era saw an attempt to restore a sense of mystery to the character of The Doctor, and, under Creator/SylvesterMcCoy he became increasingly dark, unpredictable and manipulative. This era also saw magic and the power of myths and symbols examined with the most complexity and power they'd ever been. What this all meant though was the show finally had something to prove again, and with an [[DreamTeam absolutely killer main cast]] comprising of Sylvester [=McCoy=], Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred, ''Doctor Who'' became, in my opinion at least, the [[GrowingTheBeard most intelligent, tight and exciting it had ever been]]. A shame nobody watched it: The Cartmel/[=McCoy=] era ended after only three years when the Classic Series was finally [[{{Cancellation}} officially canceled]] in 1989."''\\



->''"It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]....When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''\\

to:

->''"It all comes back to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', of course. ''[=MGS2=]'' was a naive attempt to break away from his fate (of being stuck between serving fans and [[CashCowFranchise churning out predictable, 'safe' sequels]] for his employer) in one big, controversial riddle. Ironically, the backlash [[MortonsFork only bound him even more closely to that fate]]....fate]]... When I imagine being in his position, I think of years of my life being consumed by one massive, demanding project after another, each with enormous pressure both financially and critically, with his name/reputation under the gun constantly. These projects are his life, and their reputation is his legacy. ''[=MGS2=]'' had raised a very troubling question about whether [[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] was a fraud intellectual who 'doesn’t know what people want', and he still feels [[OldShame that deep sting of mockery]] to this day."''\\
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