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->''“Machines have altered our way of life, but not our instincts. Consequently, there is maladjustment.”''
-->--'''BertrandRussell''', Sceptical Essays
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->'''Calvin's Dad:''' Our lives are filled with machines designed to reduce work and increase leisure. We have more leisure than any man has ever had. And what do we do with this leisure? Educate ourselves? Take up new interests? Explore? Invent? Create?\\
'''Calvin:''' Dad, I can't hear this commercial.\\
''[[[GettingTheBoot Calvin is thrown outside]]]''\\
'''Calvin:''' If it were up to my dad, leisure would be as bad as work.

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->'''Calvin's Dad:''' Our lives are filled with machines designed to reduce work and increase leisure. We have more leisure than any man has ever had. And what do we do with this leisure? Educate ourselves? Take up new interests? Explore? Invent? Create?\\
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Create?
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->''"You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it could split atoms with its desire, you build egos the size of cathedrals, fiber-opticly connect the world to every eager impulse, grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-played fantasies until ''every'' human becomes an aspiring emperor! Becomes ''his own'' God!"''
-->--'''John Milton''', ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate''
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->''"Out of a misguided reaction to the symbiotic relationship between religious fundamentalism and corporate hegemons, it's all the rage for young geeks to run around bigging up 'Science' as a substitute religion...Yet, those same hegemons control the application of science in its near-totality, and are using it to help establish broad-spectrum dominance that will be beyond all challenge. The same figures who are waved around like Medieval saints by gullible geeks are in fact all bought-and-sold-and-paid-for whores for the corporate elite."''
-->--'''[[http://secretsunjr.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-culture-of-surrender-or-cheeto.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]'''
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->''"''[[SelfFulfillingProphecy Justify its destruction, then destroy it.]]'' Whenever I see a surge in stupidity surrounding something new and potentially good for human progress, I know it’s being repurposed to fit into the global agenda. Tools for communicating, researching, organizing, and empowering people will be turned into [[LowestCommonDenominator idle pleasures and amusement]], or worse yet, a hub of [[{{Facebook}} pointless social competition]]. I feel sorry for those who think innovation will ever lead humanity to some new era of intelligence and social awareness. Hacktivists and crowdsourcing and cryptocurrencies and [=WikiLeaks=] are all proof...we’re not giving the elite much incentive to let us keep these freedoms, although mobile devices and the Internet are proving to be a wonderful at pacifying people too."''

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->''"''[[SelfFulfillingProphecy Justify its destruction, then destroy it.]]'' Whenever I see a surge in stupidity surrounding something new and potentially good for human progress, I know it’s being repurposed to fit into the global agenda. Tools for communicating, researching, organizing, and empowering people will be turned into [[LowestCommonDenominator idle pleasures and amusement]], or worse yet, a hub of [[{{Facebook}} pointless social competition]]. I feel sorry for those who think innovation will ever lead humanity to some new era of intelligence and social awareness. Hacktivists and crowdsourcing and cryptocurrencies and [=WikiLeaks=] are all proof...we’re not giving the elite much incentive to let us keep these freedoms, although mobile devices and the Internet are proving to be a wonderful at pacifying people too."''
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->''"We have been through economic revolutions before, but the robot revolution is different. Horses aren't unemployed now because they got lazy as a species, they’re unemployable. There's little work a horse can do that do that pays for its housing and hay. And many bright, perfectly capable humans will find themselves the new horse... The unemployment rate during the great depression was 25%.\\\
This list above is 45% of the workforce."''
-->--'''[[http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/humans-need-not-applyc C.G.P. Grey]]''', "Humans Need Not Apply"

->''"Whether you are a factory worker or an accountant, a waitress or a doctor, this is the wave that will lift you or dump you...The rise of intelligent machines will spawn new ideologies along with the new economy it is creating. Think of it as a kind of digital social Darwinism, with clear winners and losers: Those with the talent and skills to work seamlessly with technology and compete in the global marketplace are increasingly rewarded, while those whose jobs can just as easily be done by foreigners, robots or a few thousand lines of code suffer accordingly."''
-->--'''[[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-robots-are-here-98995.html#.U-1k4KOwQg8 Tyler Cowen]]''', "The Robots Are Here"

->''"Nerds tend to talk a big game about standing up for the underdog but, I’m sorry to say, don’t seem to really want a leveling of society, a removal of hierarchies. They bristle against hierarchies of [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem physical strength]], of [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney inherited capital]], and of '[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections popularity]]'—but only because those get in the way of a hierarchy of book smarts and technical skill, which is [[MoralMyopia the right and proper hierarchy]]. The creepy nerd fantasy that remains alive and well in today’s Age of the Nerd Triumphant is not of making peace with the popular kids but taking their throne... I distrust the message we keep getting about the democratizing power of the Internet and New Media, about how progressive the Millennial Generation is.\\\
I distrust my fellow young nerds. I distrust techies when they bear gifts."''
-->--'''Arthur Chu''', [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/occupying-the-throne-justine-tunney-neoreactionaries-and-the-new-1-percent.html "Occupying the Throne"]]
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->''“Machines have altered our way of life, but not our instincts. Consequently, there is maladjustment.''”''

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->''"All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization -- is like the axe in the hand of [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters the pathological criminal."''

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->''"All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization -- is like the axe in the hand of the pathological criminal."

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->''"All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization -- is like the axe in the hand of [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters the pathological criminal.""''
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->''"Democracy can hardly be expected to flourish in societies where political and economic power is being progressively concentrated and centralized. But the progress of technology has led and is still leading to just such a concentration and centralization of power."''

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->''"Democracy can hardly be expected to flourish in societies where political and economic power is being progressively concentrated and centralized. But the progress of technology has led and is still leading to just such a concentration and centralization of power.power...ever have so many been manipulated so much by so few."''



-->--Albert Einstein

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->''"Democracy can hardly be expected to flourish in societies where political and economic power is being progressively concentrated and centralized. But the progress of technology has led and is still leading to just such a concentration and centralization of power."''
-->--'''Aldous Huxley''', ''Brave New World Revisited''

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->''"All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization -- is like the axe in the hand of the pathological criminal."
-->--Albert Einstein



->''"Unbelievers in religion who think science can save the world are possessed by a fantasy that’s far more childish than any myth. The idea that humans will rise from the dead may be incredible, but no more so than the notion that 'humanity' can use science to remake the world...Myths can’t be verified or falsified in the way theories can be. But they can be more or less truthful to human experience, and I’ve no doubt that some of the ancient myths we inherit from religion are far more truthful than the stories the modern world tells about itself."''
-->--'''John Gray''', philosopher
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->''"''[[SelfFulfillingProphecy Justify its destruction, then destroy it.]]'' Whenever I see a surge in stupidity surrounding something new and potentially good for human progress, I know it’s being repurposed to fit into the global agenda. Tools for communicating, researching, organizing, and empowering people will be turned into [[LowestCommonDenominator idle pleasures and amusement]], or worse yet, a hub of [[{{Facebook}} pointless social competition]]. I feel sorry for those who think innovation will ever lead humanity to some new era of intelligence and social awareness. Hacktivists and crowdsourcing and cryptocurrencies and [=WikiLeaks=] are all proof...we’re not giving the elite much incentive to let us keep these freedoms, although mobile devices and the Internet are proving to be a wonderful at pacifying people too."''
-->--'''[[http://metagearsolid.org/2011/07/video-games-in-the-master-plan/ Terry Wolfe]]'''
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->''"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."''
-->--'''''{{Literature/Dune}}'''''
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->''"We have been through economic revolutions before, but the robot revolution is different. Horses aren't unemployed now because they got lazy as a species, they’re unemployable. There's little work a horse can do that do that pays for its housing and hay. And many bright, perfectly capable humans will find themselves the new horse... The unemployment rate during the great depression was 25%.\\\
This list above is 45% of the workforce."''
-->--'''[[http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/humans-need-not-applyc C.G.P. Grey]]''', "Humans Need Not Apply"
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->''"The internet, our greatest tool of emancipation, has been transformed into the most dangerous facilitator of totalitarianism we have ever seen. The internet is a threat to human civilization."''
-->--'''Julian Assange''' (yes, that one)

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->''"Whether you are a factory worker or an accountant, a waitress or a doctor, this is the wave that will [[TheSocialDarwinist lift you or dump you]]...Those with the talent and skills to work seamlessly with technology and compete in the global marketplace are increasingly rewarded, while those whose jobs can just as easily be done by foreigners, robots or a few thousand lines of code suffer accordingly."''
-->--'''Tyler Cowen''', [[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-robots-are-here-98995_Page2.html#.U8kAdkCmU1I "The Robots Are Here"]]

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->''"Whether you are a factory worker or an accountant, a waitress or a doctor, this is the wave that will [[TheSocialDarwinist lift you or dump you]]...you...The rise of intelligent machines will spawn new ideologies along with the new economy it is creating. Think of it as a kind of digital social Darwinism, with clear winners and losers: Those with the talent and skills to work seamlessly with technology and compete in the global marketplace are increasingly rewarded, while those whose jobs can just as easily be done by foreigners, robots or a few thousand lines of code suffer accordingly."''
-->--'''Tyler Cowen''', [[http://www.-->--'''[[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-robots-are-here-98995_Page2.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-robots-are-here-98995.html#.U8kAdkCmU1I U-1k4KOwQg8 Tyler Cowen]]''', "The Robots Are Here"]]
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->''"Nerds tend to talk a big game about standing up for the underdog but, I’m sorry to say, don’t seem to really want a leveling of society, a removal of hierarchies. They bristle against hierarchies of [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem physical strength]], of [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney inherited capital]], and of '[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections popularity]]'—but only because those get in the way of a hierarchy of book smarts and technical skill, which is [[MoralMyopia the right and proper hierarchy]]. The creepy nerd fantasy that remains alive and well in today’s Age of the Nerd Triumphant is not of making peace with the popular kids but taking their throne... I distrust the message we keep getting about the democratizing power of the Internet and New Media, about how progressive the Millennial Generation is.\\\
I distrust my fellow young nerds. I distrust techies when they bear gifts."''
-->--'''Arthur Chu''', [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/occupying-the-throne-justine-tunney-neoreactionaries-and-the-new-1-percent.html "Occupying the Throne"]]
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->''“Machines have altered our way of life, but not our instincts. Consequently, there is maladjustment.''”''
-->--'''Bertrand Russell''', Sceptical Essays
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->''"The first ''Deus Ex'' tackled the philosophical quandary of whether it's possible to wear a trench coat and sunglasses without looking like a ponce, but ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' centralizes the debate surrounding transhuman augmentation. 'Would you,' it asks, 'supplement your body with machinery?' What do you mean, ''would I?'' I already wear spectacle. And a wristwatch. And I always carry a phone (which I'm currently in the process of duct-taping to the side of my head). Anyone who talks about technological development being 'unnatural' deserves to be abandoned in the wilderness wearing nothing but a fig leaf."''
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'''''
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->''"Whether you are a factory worker or an accountant, a waitress or a doctor, this is the wave that will [[TheSocialDarwinist lift you or dump you]]...Those with the talent and skills to work seamlessly with technology and compete in the global marketplace are increasingly rewarded, while those whose jobs can just as easily be done by foreigners, robots or a few thousand lines of code suffer accordingly."''
-->--'''Tyler Cowen''', [[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-robots-are-here-98995_Page2.html#.U8kAdkCmU1I "The Robots Are Here"]]
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->''"Unbelievers in religion who think science can save the world are possessed by a fantasy that’s far more childish than any myth. The idea that humans will rise from the dead may be incredible, but no more so than the notion that 'humanity' can use science to remake the world...Myths can’t be verified or falsified in the way theories can be. But they can be more or less truthful to human experience, and I’ve no doubt that some of the ancient myths we inherit from religion are far more truthful than the stories the modern world tells about itself."''
-->--'''John Gray''', philosopher
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->''"If we're thinking on a remotely big picture level, the fact that depression appears to exist as a recognized problem only among technologically and economically 'advanced' western people should be a big honking warning sign."''
-->--'''[[http://projectnes.blogspot.com/2011/05/climbing-starting-blocks-gremlins-ii.html Phil Sandifer]]'''
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-->--'''[[http://projectnes.blogspot.com/2011/05/climbing-starting-blocks-gremlins-ii.html Phil Sandifer]]'''
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->''"For vast numbers of Middle Easterners, Western-style economic methods [[TheSocialDarwinist brought poverty]], Western-style political institutions [[HobbesWasRight brought tyranny]], even Western-style warfare [[HumiliationConga brought defeat]]. It is hardly surprising that so many were willing to listen to voices telling them that the old Islamic ways were best and that their only salvation was to throw aside the pagan innovations of the reformers and return to the True Path that God had prescribed for his people. Ultimately, the struggle of the fundamentalists is against two enemies, secularism and modernism."''
-->--'''Bernard Lewis''', [[http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1990/09/the-roots-of-muslim-rage/304643/ "The Roots of Muslim Rage"]]

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->''"If you want level-headed advice about preparing for [[MillenniumBug a global crisis]], who better to turn to than a nude photographer who [[ButIPlayOneOnTV played a space creature on TV?]] ...It starts with Creator/LeonardNimoy scolding the ancient [[{{Atlantis}} Atlanteans]] for their hubris. This is to create a context for what comes next: this is all ''your'' fault, mankind. Your lazy dependence on transistors is what caused all this in the first place."''
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-real-survival-guides-one-very-fake-apocalypse/ "10 Real Survival Guides For One Very Fake Apocalypse"]]


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->''“I am resolutely opposed to all innovation, all change, but I am determined to understand what’s happening. Because I don’t choose just to sit and let the juggernaut roll over me. Many people seem to think that if you talk about something recent, you’re in favor of it. The exact opposite is true in my case. Anything I talk about is almost certainly something I’m resolutely against. And it seems to me the best way to oppose it is to understand it. And then you know where to turn off the buttons.” ''
-->--'''Marshall [=McLuhan=]'''

->''"If you want level-headed advice about preparing for [[MillenniumBug a global crisis]], who better to turn to than a nude photographer who [[ButIPlayOneOnTV played a space creature on TV?]] ...It starts with Creator/LeonardNimoy scolding the ancient [[{{Atlantis}} Atlanteans]] for their hubris. This is to create a context for what comes next: this is all ''your'' fault, mankind. Your lazy dependence on transistors is what caused all this in the first place."''
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-real-survival-guides-one-very-fake-apocalypse/ "10 Real Survival Guides For One Very Fake Apocalypse"]]
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->''"Speaking broadly, the [[RonaldReagan Reagan]]-[[MargaretThatcher Thatcher]] era was the end of an era of conservatism because they and their half-rate successors were the last of the conservative technocrats. Modern conservatism is profoundly non-technocratic, a viewpoint best exemplified in American conservatism inasmuch as its orthodoxy includes the rejection of large swaths of science. Technocracy depends on the fetishization of automation. One of the first things to be discovered in the digital era was that the embrace of technology posed massive challenges to the orthodox views of humanity. Just as the Enlightenment provided a rationalist revolution, the Singularity, debased a concept as that is, provides a post-humanist revolution against rationalism. Accordingly, the technocratic conservative withered and died save for a handful of Redneckbeards."''
-->--'''[[http://projectnes.blogspot.com/2011/01/singularity-will-not-be-divided-into.html Phil Sandifer]]'''
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->''"No phone, no phone, I just want to be alone today"''
-->-- Cake - No Phone'''
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-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-real-survival-guides-one-very-fake-apocalypse/ "10 Real Survival Guides For One Very Fake Apocalypse"]]

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-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'', -->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-real-survival-guides-one-very-fake-apocalypse/ "10 Real Survival Guides For One Very Fake Apocalypse"]]
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->''"If you want level-headed advice about preparing for [[MillenniumBug a global crisis]], who better to turn to than a nude photographer who [[ButIPlayOneOnTV played a space creature on TV?]] ...It starts with Creator/LeonardNimoy scolding the ancient [[{{Atlantis}} Atlanteans]] for their hubris. This is to create a context for what comes next: this is all ''your'' fault, mankind. Your lazy dependence on transistors is what caused all this in the first place."''
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-real-survival-guides-one-very-fake-apocalypse/ "10 Real Survival Guides For One Very Fake Apocalypse"]]
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-->-- ''CalvinAndHobbes''

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-->-- '''Tyler Durden''', ''{{Fight Club}}''

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-> In the world I see... you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

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-> In ->'''Calvin's Dad:''' Our lives are filled with machines designed to reduce work and increase leisure. We have more leisure than any man has ever had. And what do we do with this leisure? Educate ourselves? Take up new interests? Explore? Invent? Create?\\
'''Calvin:''' Dad, I can't hear this commercial.\\
-Calvin is thrown outside.-\\
'''Calvin:''' If it were up to my dad, leisure would be as bad as work.
-->-- ''CalvinAndHobbes''

->''"In
the world I see... you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway."''



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