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-->-- '''Bad Webcomics Wiki''' [[http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star criticising]] ''Gyno-Star''

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-->-- '''Bad Webcomics Wiki''' [[http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star criticising]] ''Gyno-Star''
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->''This is a real song. And I'm playing it for you as cover for me not liking this artist no matter how positive her messages are.''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''' on Jax's "U Love U", which sampled the theme song from ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' for some reason.
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->Creator/RudyardKipling ''is'' a jingo imperialist, he is morally insensitive and aesthetically disgusting. It is better to start by admitting that, and then to try to find out why it is that he survives while the refined people who have sniggered at him seem to wear so badly.
-->--'''Orwell''' in ''Horizon'', February 1942
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-->-- '''Fluellen''', ''Theatre/HenryV'

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-->-- '''Fluellen''', ''Theatre/HenryV'
''Theatre/HenryV''
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->''"Really hate the fact that I can't click on a video criticizing a Creator/{{Disney}} ''Franchise/StarWars'' product without there being a 50/50 chance that the [=YouTuber=] who made it is a shitty person."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions''' [[https://twitter.com/Schaffrillas/status/1525161407825727490 on Twitter]]

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-->--'''Brent Hartinger''', from [[http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot this article]] in afterelton.com on the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Quagmire's Dad".

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-->--'''Brent Hartinger''', from [[http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot this article]] in afterelton.com on the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Quagmire's Dad".
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->Reading [[http://www.gynostar.com/ this comic]] reminds me of the debate over the "feminist" label. Dictionary.com defines feminism as "the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men", and a feminist is one who follows that doctrine. However, many people who would otherwise call themselves feminists avoid the label because of shit like this.\\
The word "feminist" has become synonymous with "[[SoapboxSadie double standards and whining]]". In the public eye, [[StrawFeminist "feminism" has come to mean "advocating the rights of women over the rights of men"]], and has resulted in considerable backlash in the form of Men's Right's Advocates. That's why [[InsistentTerminology many people who would call themselves feminists instead call themselves "equal rights advocates"]] or something of that nature. It sounds less one-sided.\\
I bring this up because [[NotHelpingYourCase this comic isn't doing the feminist movement any favors]]. It conforms to the stereotypes associated with feminism not only with [[AuthorTract the way that it portrays men, stay-at-home moms, and just about anyone who doesn't meet the author's personal definition of "enlightened"]], but also with [[OpinionMyopia its virulently one-sided perspective]]. Cohen may claim that she's only making this comic to be funny and has no intention of spreading a message, but by making every villain a strawman of some opposing political position, and portraying anyone who holds to those ideologies as stupid and brainwashed, the comic comes across as nothing more than propaganda, the kind of propaganda that gives anti-feminists ammo in a debate.
-->-- '''Bad Webcomics Wiki''' [[http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star criticising]] ''Gyno-Star''
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->''Augh! You can make a case for this perfectly good message without being patronizing about it. You can make a case for the message without cramming it down the reader's throat.''
-->-- '''Cassandra Gelvin''' [[https://www.drttmk.com/books/great-kapok-tree-tale-amazon-rain-forest on]] ''The Great Kapok Tree'', ''Website/DontReadThisToMyKids''
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->Said villains, by the way, introduce themselves as being a gang of wealthy preppies who derive both pleasure and a sense of patriotic pride from slaughtering the poor. And ''this'' is where ''The Purge'' goes OffTheRails. Folks, explicit, heavy-handed political message-mongering is not ''necessarily'' bad storytelling. Hell, my favourite movie is ''[[Film/Robocop1987 Robocop]]'', and ''Robocop'' is [[{{Anvilicious}} about as subtle as a baseball bat to the face]]. As the saying goes, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, class is a reliable source of solid drama and the idea that sweeping, showpiece anti-crime measures like the Purge ''do'' tend to disproportionately harm the lower classes while shielding or even benefiting the wealthy shouldn't be news to ''anyone'' at this point. But having your main villain basically walk up to the camera and say, "JustForFun/{{Hello}} [[{{Anvilicious}} I'm a walking metaphor for the predatory nature of class-disparity that inevitably results from unfettered capitalism and the consolidation of personal wealth!]]" is just lazy, bad, stupid writing and film-making. The only way it could be ''less'' subtle is if the bad guy took off his mask and turned out to actually just '''be''' Mitt Romney!

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->Said villains, by the way, introduce themselves as being a gang of wealthy preppies who derive both pleasure and a sense of patriotic pride from slaughtering the poor. And ''this'' is where ''The Purge'' goes OffTheRails. Folks, explicit, heavy-handed political message-mongering is not ''necessarily'' bad storytelling. Hell, my favourite movie is ''[[Film/Robocop1987 Robocop]]'', and ''Robocop'' is [[{{Anvilicious}} about as subtle as a baseball bat to the face]]. As the saying goes, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, some anvils need to be dropped, class is a reliable source of solid drama and the idea that sweeping, showpiece anti-crime measures like the Purge ''do'' tend to disproportionately harm the lower classes while shielding or even benefiting the wealthy shouldn't be news to ''anyone'' at this point. But having your main villain basically walk up to the camera and say, "JustForFun/{{Hello}} [[{{Anvilicious}} I'm a walking metaphor for the predatory nature of class-disparity that inevitably results from unfettered capitalism and the consolidation of personal wealth!]]" is just lazy, bad, stupid writing and film-making. The only way it could be ''less'' subtle is if the bad guy took off his mask and turned out to actually just '''be''' Mitt Romney!
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->''There’s a great quote, “There’s nothing I like less than an opinion that I hold dear being argued badly.” With Fletcher, I twisted that a little to like, “There’s maybe nothing worse than a philosophy that you normally would agree with, but put in the mouth of a fucking despicable human being.” Suddenly the human being and the philosophy become inseparable.''

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->''There’s a great quote, “There’s nothing I like less than an opinion that I hold dear being argued badly.” With Fletcher, I twisted that a little to like, “There’s maybe nothing worse than a philosophy that you normally would agree with, but put in the mouth of a fucking despicable human being.” Suddenly the human being and the philosophy [[HitlerAteSugar become inseparable.inseparable]].''
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->A male character on [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy the show]] has sex with a transgender character without her revealing her former-gender (extremely unlikely, IMHO, despite the fact that it's one of Hollywood's most popular transgender storylines), and when he finds out, he spews vomit for thirty seconds, then freaks out while another character compares the transgender person to a sex offender? And [[Creator/SethMacFarlane MacFarlane]] thinks the transsexual community will be "very, very happy" and that this is the most sympathetic television portrayal of such a character ever?
-->--'''Brent Hartinger''', from [[http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot this article]] in afterelton.com on the WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy episode "Quagmire's Dad".

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->A male character on [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy the show]] has sex with a transgender character without her revealing her former-gender (extremely unlikely, IMHO, despite the fact that it's one of Hollywood's most popular transgender storylines), and when he finds out, [[UnsettlingGenderReveal he spews vomit for thirty seconds, seconds]], then freaks out while another character compares the transgender person to a sex offender? And [[Creator/SethMacFarlane MacFarlane]] thinks the transsexual community will be "very, very happy" and that this is the most sympathetic television portrayal of such a character ever?
-->--'''Brent Hartinger''', from [[http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot this article]] in afterelton.com on the WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Quagmire's Dad".
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-->--'''Bertie''', ''WesternAnimation/TucaAndBertie'' "SweetBeak"

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-->--'''Bertie''', ''WesternAnimation/TucaAndBertie'' "SweetBeak"''WesternAnimation/TucaAndBertie'', "[=SweetBeak=]"
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->Everything you're saying is totally reasonable, but you sound batshit crazy.
-->--'''Bertie''', ''WesternAnimation/TucaAndBertie'' "SweetBeak"
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->''"Yeah. You're right. ''And you're not helping''! If you can't figure out a way to communicate your suggestions in a way that actually helps people receive it, that's not on them; that's on you. If they don't receive the message because ''you'' refuse to change the way that ''you'' speak to people, then who's really being the stubborn fool here?"''
-->--'''Creator/JoshScorcher''', "Taking 'Honest Apple' Too Seriously"
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-->-- '''Creator/JRRTolkien''',

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-->-- '''Creator/JRRTolkien''',
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->''"[[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Gandalf]] as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. [[KnightTemplar He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous]]. [[WellIntentionedExtremist He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great)]]. Thus while Sauron multiplied [illegible word] evil, he left 'good' clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil."''
-->-- '''Creator/JRRTolkien''',

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->When you're an asshole, it doesn't matter how right you are. Nobody wants to give you the satisfaction.
-->--'''Morty Smith''', ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''


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->''"If the enemy is an ass and a fool and a prating coxcomb, \\
is it meet, think you, that we should also, look you, \\
be an ass and a fool and a prating coxcomb?"''
-->-- '''Fluellen''', ''Theatre/HenryV'
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->''Fahrenheit 11/9'' would be better if it didn't romanticize the new wave of progressive action (which, incidentally, I believe in) as if it were the second coming.
-->-- '''Owen Gleiberman''' [[https://variety.com/2018/film/reviews/toronto-film-review-michael-moores-fahrenheit-11-9-1202931641/ on]] ''[[Film/Fahrenheit119 Fahrenheit 11/9]]''
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->I think it's pretty clear no-one has said "no" to this guy in 25 years. Look, here's the thing. A conversation about race is clearly important, but there's a time and a place, and it is ''not'' the length of time it takes to whip up a Tiramisu Frappuccino. But still, let's give Howard Schultz credit; he ''did'' start a conversation across the racial divide, with a white billionaire pitching an idea and any number of African-American customers telling him how stupid it was.

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->I think it's pretty clear no-one has said "no" to [[PointyHairedBoss this guy guy]] in 25 years. Look, here's the thing. A conversation about race is clearly important, but there's a time and a place, and it is ''not'' the length of time it takes to whip up a Tiramisu Frappuccino. But still, let's give Howard Schultz credit; he ''did'' start a conversation across the racial divide, with a white billionaire pitching an idea and any number of African-American customers telling him how stupid it was.

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->I think it's pretty clear no-one has said "no" to this guy in 25 years. Look, here's the thing. A conversation about race is clearly important, but there's a time and a place, and it is ''not'' the length of time it takes to whip up a Tiramisu Frappuccino. But still, let's give Howard Schultz credit; he ''did'' start a conversation across the racial divide, with a white billionaire pitching an idea and any number of African-American customers telling him how stupid it was.
-->-- '''Creator/JohnOliver''', on Starbucks' "Race Together" promotion, ''Series/LastWeekTonightWithJohnOliver''
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-->--'''Damien Chazelle'', in a [[https://screencrush.com/whiplash-damien-chazelle/ 2014 interview]] about ''Film/{{Whiplash}}''


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-->--'''Damien Chazelle'', Chazelle''', in a [[https://screencrush.com/whiplash-damien-chazelle/ 2014 interview]] about ''Film/{{Whiplash}}''

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->''There’s a great quote, “There’s nothing I like less than an opinion that I hold dear being argued badly.” With Fletcher, I twisted that a little to like, “There’s maybe nothing worse than a philosophy that you normally would agree with, but put in the mouth of a fucking despicable human being.” Suddenly the human being and the philosophy become inseparable.''
-->--'''Damien Chazelle'', in a [[https://screencrush.com/whiplash-damien-chazelle/ 2014 interview]] about ''Film/{{Whiplash}}''

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->When you're an asshole, it doesn't matter how right you are. Nobody wants to give you the satisfaction.
-->--'''Morty Smith''', ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''
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-->--''Creator/RogerEbert'' [[https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/atlas-shrugged-2011 in his review of]] '''Film/AtlasShrugged'''.

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-->--''Creator/RogerEbert'' -->--'''Creator/RogerEbert''' [[https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/atlas-shrugged-2011 in his review of]] '''Film/AtlasShrugged'''.
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->''So OK. Let’s say you know the novel, you agree with Creator/AynRand, you’re an objectivist or a libertarian, and you’ve been waiting eagerly for this movie. Man, are you going to get a letdown. It’s not enough that a movie agree with you, in however an incoherent and murky fashion. It would help if it were like, you know, entertaining?
-->--''Creator/RogerEbert'' [[https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/atlas-shrugged-2011 in his review of]] '''Film/AtlasShrugged'''.

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->"''I will take an insincere display of charity over a genuine display of apathy any day of the week."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''', on "We Are The World"

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->"''I will take an insincere display of charity over a genuine display of apathy any day of the week."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''', on "We Are The World"
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->"''I will take an insincere display of charity over a genuine display of apathy any day of the week."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''', on "We Are The World"
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->A heartbreaking story is currently unfolding that’s sure to have devastating ramifications for years to come. Just moments ago, without any warning, the worst person you know just made a great point.
-->--'''Website/{{Clickhole}}''', [[https://lifestyle.clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606 "Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point"]]
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->''When you try to make a point about how no one should be excluded based on who they are, but you become a meme instead.''
-->--A comment on the music video for "Big Enough" (a.k.a. [[MemeticMutation the screaming Jimmy Barnes song]])
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->Said villains, by the way, introduce themselves as being a gang of wealthy preppies who derive both pleasure and a sense of patriotic pride from slaughtering the poor. And ''this'' is where ''The Purge'' goes OffTheRails. Folks, explicit, heavy-handed political message-mongering is not ''necessarily'' bad storytelling. Hell, my favourite movie is ''[[Film/Robocop1987 Robocop]]'', and ''Robocop'' is about as subtle as a baseball bat to the face. As the saying goes, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, class is a reliable source of solid drama and the idea that sweeping, showpiece anti-crime measures like the Purge ''do'' tend to disproportionately harm the lower classes while shielding or even benefiting the wealthy shouldn't be news to ''anyone'' at this point. But having your main villain basically walk up to the camera and say, "JustForFun/{{Hello}} [[{{Anvilicious}} I'm a walking metaphor for the predatory nature of class-disparity that inevitably results from unfettered capitalism and the consolidation of personal wealth!]]" is just lazy, bad, stupid writing and film-making. The only way it could be ''less'' subtle is if the bad guy took off his mask and turned out to actually just '''be''' Mitt Romney!

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->Said villains, by the way, introduce themselves as being a gang of wealthy preppies who derive both pleasure and a sense of patriotic pride from slaughtering the poor. And ''this'' is where ''The Purge'' goes OffTheRails. Folks, explicit, heavy-handed political message-mongering is not ''necessarily'' bad storytelling. Hell, my favourite movie is ''[[Film/Robocop1987 Robocop]]'', and ''Robocop'' is [[{{Anvilicious}} about as subtle as a baseball bat to the face.face]]. As the saying goes, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, class is a reliable source of solid drama and the idea that sweeping, showpiece anti-crime measures like the Purge ''do'' tend to disproportionately harm the lower classes while shielding or even benefiting the wealthy shouldn't be news to ''anyone'' at this point. But having your main villain basically walk up to the camera and say, "JustForFun/{{Hello}} [[{{Anvilicious}} I'm a walking metaphor for the predatory nature of class-disparity that inevitably results from unfettered capitalism and the consolidation of personal wealth!]]" is just lazy, bad, stupid writing and film-making. The only way it could be ''less'' subtle is if the bad guy took off his mask and turned out to actually just '''be''' Mitt Romney!
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->Bill Maher will tell a joke that I laugh at, while making a point I completely agree with, and I'll think "I want to fucking throttle you."
-->--'''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''' [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/541492775460814848 on Twitter]]

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