History Quotes / CluelessAesop

4th Dec '15 8:37:27 PM FF32
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-->-- ''[[http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/10/70-jack-chick.html Encyclopedia of Amercian Loons]]'' on Creator/JackChick
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-->-- ''[[http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/10/70-jack-chick.html Encyclopedia of Amercian Loons]]'' on Creator/JackChick [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack Chick]]
9th Jun '15 8:25:54 AM johnnyfog
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->Though Strauss makes great effort to critique the the vain emptiness of some aspects of the game culture and the transformation of nice goofy guys into slick greaseballs, he behaves in almost the exact same way but paints his exploits in a [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing radioactive awesome colour]] (because when the alpha-game-messiah does it [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality it's all cool braaah]]). -->--'''''Wiki/RationalWiki''''' on Neil Strauss, the Moses of Pick-Up culture
25th May '15 12:58:47 PM johnnyfog
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->As [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt Roosevelt]] was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I'd have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? [...] Let's put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal's films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he's hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’
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->As [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt Roosevelt]] was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I'd have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? [...] Let's ->Let's put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal's films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he's hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’

->Indeed, it seems especially hypocritical to suggest that the Third Doctor's cardinal sin is "greed for knowledge" and that this merits the character's death. Every iteration of the character has a thirst for knowledge. That's why the Doctor stole the TARDIS, and that's why he would never give it back. If anything, the Third Doctor is ''less'' greedy than his other iterations. Even after his exile is lifted and he's free to return to the cosmos to continue pursuing knowledge, he anchors himself to Earth with the U.N.I.T. family. It feels like Planet of the Spiders almost doesn't understand the Third Doctor and this era of the show at all. It tries to wrap up the era with a few of [[WereStillRelevantDammit the superficial trappings]] of [[NewAgeRetroHippie the last half-decade]]. -->-- '''Darren Mooney''' [[http://them0vieblog.com/2013/03/29/doctor-who-planet-of-the-spiders-review/ on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS11E5PlanetofTheSpiders}} "Planet of the Spiders"]]

->This story is obviously one of the "message shows," hence the reason why it's structured as it is. Reminds me of a story I once heard from a man at the bus depot about this donkey.\\ It turns out this donkey was ''very'' smart - for a donkey, I mean - and loved magic tricks. And with the man's help, the donkey began mastering various tricks, which is impressive when you don't have sleeves. He worked with the donkey to pull off the [[PullARabbitOutOfMyHat rabbit-out-of-a-hat trick]], but with a fake rabbit, because [[FantasticRacism rabbits and donkeys are natural enemies]] - not a lot of people know that, [[NoodleIncident there's a lot of baggage between the two.]] But the donkey got so good, he wanted to put on a show. Money wasn't even that big of a deal to the donkey - again, he's got no pockets - he just wants to perform, so kids would get free admittance and everything, just so the donkey could amaze them with his magic. But the night after the theater was rented, [[SignsOfDisrepair part of the sign announcing the first-ever Donkey Magic Show was stolen]], so the population woke up to a sign declaring "[[BestialityIsDepraved Donkey Show]] - [[CrossesTheLineTwice Kids Watch for Free!]]" And they burned the theater down. The donkey never got to perform magic, [[ShootTheShaggyDog and he hanged himself tragically.]] And the lesson is learned - [[SpoofAesop magic acts are WRONG.]] -->-- '''WebSite/SFDebris''', [[http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v950.php reviewing]] ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Critical Care" ->What I'm saying - what ''the movie'' appears to be saying - is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]. -->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/mazes-and-monsters/ on]] ''Film/MazesAndMonsters'' ->It's ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. ''Twi-fucking-light''! They don't know what they're talking about! You ''have to know'' you ''don't know'' what you're talking about! -->-- '''Creator/DougWalker''' on vampires and abortion, ''[[Literature/{{Twilight}} Breaking Dawn Part 1]]''
24th May '15 12:08:53 PM Beedle
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->'''Red Guy''': You know, kiddies, there is a moral here.\\ '''Cow''': Oh, there is?\\ '''Red Guy''': Yes; ''crime doesn't pay!''\\ '''Cow''': ...I do not understand.\\ '''Red Guy''': I didn't say it was a ''good'' moral. -->--''WesternAnimation/CowAndChicken''
10th May '15 5:23:14 PM johnnyfog
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->It is interesting to see them try to draw positive messages from what was not inherently a positive strip; at times, it's bending it a bit. Peppermint Patty gets quoted for "The world is full of beautiful plants and flowers, but I'm just an ugly weed. I'm a poor ugly weed trying to push her way up through the sidewalk of life!" That is linked to the uplifting message “"Be Real." Ah, the negative self image is a virtue! -->-- ''[[http://aaugh.com/wordpress/2014/03/maybe-everyone-is-unique-but-me/ The AAUGH Blog]]'' on the ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' book ''Be Unique''

->Just to make sure we get that Chisolm's a bad guy, we note that [[FatBastard he's really fat]] and greasy looking. He quotes [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], noting that while he mistakenly got us to fighting with the Nazis, he was still a "very brilliant man." (They have Chisolm mispronounce "Delano," just to make sure that we know he's a fraud and a doofus.) As Roosevelt was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I'd have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? [...] Let's put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal's films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he's hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’
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->Just to make sure we get that Chisolm's a bad guy, we note that [[FatBastard he's really fat]] and greasy looking. He quotes ->As [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], noting that while he mistakenly got us to fighting with the Nazis, he was still a "very brilliant man." (They have Chisolm mispronounce "Delano," just to make sure that we know he's a fraud and a doofus.) As Roosevelt Roosevelt]] was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I'd have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? [...] Let's put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal's films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he's hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’

->Some religions consider knowledge a sin. Again, it's a very Christian image – the apple in the Garden of Eden. However, it seems weird for a show embracing Buddhist philosophy to condemn the pursuit of scientific knowledge. Indeed, it seems especially hypocritical to suggest that the Third Doctor's cardinal sin is "greed for knowledge" and that this merits the character's death. Every iteration of the character has a thirst for knowledge. That's why the Doctor stole the TARDIS, and that's why he would never give it back. If anything, the Third Doctor is ''less'' greedy than his other iterations. Even after his exile is lifted and he's free to return to the cosmos to continue pursuing knowledge, he anchors himself to Earth with the U.N.I.T. family. It feels like Planet of the Spiders almost doesn't understand the Third Doctor and this era of the show at all. It tries to wrap up the era with a few of [[NewAgeRetroHippie the superficial trappings]] of the last half-decade... If anything, the Third Doctor's biggest sin is that he didn't venture out into the universe enough, and it feels like Planet of the Spiders misrepresents that.
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->Some religions consider knowledge a sin. Again, it's a very Christian image – the apple in the Garden of Eden. However, it seems weird for a show embracing Buddhist philosophy to condemn the pursuit of scientific knowledge. Indeed, ->Indeed, it seems especially hypocritical to suggest that the Third Doctor's cardinal sin is "greed for knowledge" and that this merits the character's death. Every iteration of the character has a thirst for knowledge. That's why the Doctor stole the TARDIS, and that's why he would never give it back. If anything, the Third Doctor is ''less'' greedy than his other iterations. Even after his exile is lifted and he's free to return to the cosmos to continue pursuing knowledge, he anchors himself to Earth with the U.N.I.T. family. It feels like Planet of the Spiders almost doesn't understand the Third Doctor and this era of the show at all. It tries to wrap up the era with a few of [[NewAgeRetroHippie [[WereStillRelevantDammit the superficial trappings]] of [[NewAgeRetroHippie the last half-decade... If anything, the Third Doctor's biggest sin is that he didn't venture out into the universe enough, and it feels like Planet of the Spiders misrepresents that.half-decade]].

->Somehow shooting a diamond and [[AndIMustScream consigning Rassilon to death in the hell of the Time War]] is acceptable, but shooting Rassilon himself is not. Letting the Master [[DraggedOffToHell walk into the Time War]] is acceptable, putting a bullet in him is not. Apparently "how the Master started" has [[DoesntLikeGuns everything to do with projectiles]] and nothing to do with an actual system of ethics. Wilf's military service renders him noble, but the use of a gun is wrong. There is no substance to this, just a mess of would-be principles masquerading as a moral. -->-- '''Dr. Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/03/a-split-in-skin-of-world-end-of-time.html on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]] ->It's a story about genocidal racism... set in a holiday camp and starring light entertainers. It's like the Eichmann trial being held in Toys R Us. It's like a bright green water pistol filled with orphans' tears. It's like being murdered by being force-fed party balloons. -->-- '''[[http://shabogangraffiti.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/real-mccoy-and-forgotten-sacrificial.html Shabogan Graffiti]]''' on the ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "Delta and the Bannermen"

It turns out this donkey was ''very'' smart - for a donkey, I mean - and loved magic tricks. And with the man's help, the donkey began mastering various tricks, which is impressive when you don't have sleeves. He worked with the donkey to pull off the [[PullARabbitOutOfMyHat rabbit-out-of-a-hat trick]], but with a fake rabbit, because [[FantasticRacism rabbits and donkeys are natural enemies]] - not a lot of people know that, [[NoodleIncident there's a lot of baggage between the two.]] But the donkey got so good, he wanted to put on a show. Money wasn't even that big of a deal to the donkey - again, he's got no pockets - he just wants to perform, so kids would get free admittance and everything, just so the donkey could amaze them with his magic. But the night after the theater was rented, [[SignsOfDisrepair part of the sign announcing the first-ever Donkey Magic Show was stolen]], so the population woke up to a sign declaring "[[BestialityIsDepraved Donkey Show]] - [[CrossesTheLineTwice Kids Watch for Free!]]" And they burned the theater down. The donkey never got to perform magic, [[ShootTheShaggyDog and he hanged himself tragically.]] And the lesson is learned - [[SpoofAesop magic acts are WRONG.]]\\ That's the way modern ''[[Franchise/StarTrek 'Trek]]'' seems to handle "message shows." They would construct the ''weirdest'', highly-specific situations to lead... to a highly-questionable conclusion.
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It turns out this donkey was ''very'' smart - for a donkey, I mean - and loved magic tricks. And with the man's help, the donkey began mastering various tricks, which is impressive when you don't have sleeves. He worked with the donkey to pull off the [[PullARabbitOutOfMyHat rabbit-out-of-a-hat trick]], but with a fake rabbit, because [[FantasticRacism rabbits and donkeys are natural enemies]] - not a lot of people know that, [[NoodleIncident there's a lot of baggage between the two.]] But the donkey got so good, he wanted to put on a show. Money wasn't even that big of a deal to the donkey - again, he's got no pockets - he just wants to perform, so kids would get free admittance and everything, just so the donkey could amaze them with his magic. But the night after the theater was rented, [[SignsOfDisrepair part of the sign announcing the first-ever Donkey Magic Show was stolen]], so the population woke up to a sign declaring "[[BestialityIsDepraved Donkey Show]] - [[CrossesTheLineTwice Kids Watch for Free!]]" And they burned the theater down. The donkey never got to perform magic, [[ShootTheShaggyDog and he hanged himself tragically.]] And the lesson is learned - [[SpoofAesop magic acts are WRONG.]]\\ That's the way modern ''[[Franchise/StarTrek 'Trek]]'' seems to handle "message shows." They would construct the ''weirdest'', highly-specific situations to lead... to a highly-questionable conclusion.]]

->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What I'm saying - what ''the movie'' appears to be saying - is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane.
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->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What ->What I'm saying - what ''the movie'' appears to be saying - is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane.friends]].

->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick - a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly in caution tape, and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much like the Rainbow Express in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was portrayed as a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted with everything he did. After the gimmick was poorly received, he was taken off television before having a short lived comedy tag team with Eric Young... in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have come to loathe. -->-- '''Taimapedia'''
30th Apr '15 2:46:28 PM Tacitus
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->It is interesting to see them try to draw positive messages from what was not inherently a positive strip; at times, it's bending it a bit. Peppermint Patty gets quoted for "The world is full of beautiful plants and flowers, but I'm just an ugly weed. I'm a poor ugly weed trying to push her way up through the sidewalk of life!" That is linked to the uplifting message “"Be Real." Ah, the negative self image is a virtue! -->-- ''[[http://aaugh.com/wordpress/2014/03/maybe-everyone-is-unique-but-me/ The AAUGH Blog]]'' on the ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' book ''Be Unique'' ->"Stigma" suggests AIDS is fundamentally a minority (i.e., gay) problem. In fact, it is at its worst as a plague afflicting the heterosexual majority in Africa. There's now an HIV-positive Muppet on TV over there, by the way, [[PretenderDiss if you're interested in real bravery]]. -->-- '''John Ruch''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Boston Herald'' ->The episode's message ends up completely garbled. Intended as a condemnation of homophobia, the episode instead comes off as the story of one woman's [[AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits brave quest for cock]] [[StrawFeminist in the face of lesbian tyranny.]] -->-- '''Website/{{Cracked}}''', on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'''s "The Outcast" ->If your movie has a problem with [[TakeOurWordForIt showing people doing stuff]], then maybe you shouldn't make a movie about people doing that stuff. You're just confusing the audience. -->-- '''WebVideo/DiamandaHagan''' on ''Sting: Moment of Truth''

-->--''[[http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/10/70-jack-chick.html Encyclopedia of Amercian Loons]]'' on Creator/JackChick ->''Power Rangers'', please don't preach a message of non-violent self-defense when literally the entire show revolves around fighting evil [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer by punching and shooting it.]] -->-- '''Linkara''', ''WebVideo/HistoryOfPowerRangers'' ->The episode's message ends up completely garbled. Intended as a condemnation of homophobia, the episode instead comes off as the story of one woman's [[AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits brave quest for cock]] [[StrawFeminist in the face of lesbian tyranny.]] -->-- '''''Website/{{Cracked}}''''', on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'''s "The Outcast" ->"Stigma" suggests AIDS is fundamentally a minority (i.e., gay) problem. In fact, it is at its worst as a plague afflicting the heterosexual majority in Africa. There’s now an HIV-positive Muppet on TV over there, by the way, if you’re interested in [[PretenderDiss real bravery]]. -->--'''John Ruch''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Boston Herald'' ->Some religions consider knowledge a sin. Again, it’s a very Christian image – the apple in the Garden of Eden. However, it seems weird for a show embracing Buddhist philosophy to condemn the pursuit of scientific knowledge. Indeed, it seems especially hypocritical to suggest that the Third Doctor’s cardinal sin is [='=]''greed for knowledge''[='=] and that this merits the character’s death. Every iteration of the character has a thirst for knowledge. That’s why the Doctor stole the TARDIS, and that’s why he would never give it back. If anything, the Third Doctor is ''less'' greedy than his other iterations. Even after his exile is lifted and he’s free to return to the cosmos to continue pursuing knowledge, he anchors himself to Earth with the U.N.I.T. family. It feels like Planet of the Spiders almost doesn’t understand the Third Doctor and this era of the show at all. It tries to wrap up the era with a few of [[NewAgeRetroHippie the superficial trappings]] of the last half-decade... If anything, the Third Doctor’s biggest sin is that he didn’t venture out into the universe enough, and it feels like Planet of the Spiders misrepresents that. -->--'''Darren Mooney''' [[http://them0vieblog.com/2013/03/29/doctor-who-planet-of-the-spiders-review/ on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS11E5PlanetofTheSpiders}} "Planet of the Spiders"]] ->Somehow shooting a diamond and [[AndIMustScream consigning Rassilon to death in the hell of the Time War]] is acceptable, but shooting Rassilon himself is not. Letting the Master [[DraggedOffToHell walk into the Time War]] is acceptable, putting a bullet in him is not. Apparently 'how the Master started' has [[DoesntLikeGuns everything to do with projectiles]] and nothing to do with an actual system of ethics. Wilf's military service renders him noble, but the use of a gun is wrong. There is no substance to this, just a mess of would-be principles masquerading as a moral.
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-->--''[[http://americanloons.-->-- ''[[http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/10/70-jack-chick.html Encyclopedia of Amercian Loons]]'' on Creator/JackChick ->''Power Rangers'', ->''Franchise/PowerRangers'', please don't preach a message of non-violent self-defense when literally the entire show revolves around fighting evil [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer by punching and shooting it.]] -->-- '''Linkara''', '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', ''WebVideo/HistoryOfPowerRangers'' ->The episode's message ends up ->Just to make sure we get that Chisolm's a bad guy, we note that [[FatBastard he's really fat]] and greasy looking. He quotes [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], noting that while he mistakenly got us to fighting with the Nazis, he was still a "very brilliant man." (They have Chisolm mispronounce "Delano," just to make sure that we know he's a fraud and a doofus.) As Roosevelt was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I'd have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? [...] Let's put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal's films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he's hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’ -->-- '''Jabootu''' [[http://www.jabootu.com/patriot.htm on]] Creator/StevenSeagal's ''The Patriot'' ->Obviously people were going out to [drum 'n' bass] nights then, just as they are now, but by 2009 it had long since stopped being at the bleeding edge. [The Drum 'N' Bassment is] not completely garbled. Intended incongruous as a condemnation of homophobia, name for a club, but it does help bolster the episode instead comes off as argument that Moore's out of his depth here [...] this is where the story of one woman's [[AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits brave quest for cock]] [[StrawFeminist in youth is, where the face of lesbian tyranny.]] new stuff's happening. Don't be wagging your finger and telling everyone creativity's dead if the last time you had any idea what was going on in popular music was 1995. -->-- '''''Website/{{Cracked}}''''', on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'''s '''Amy of [[http://mindlessones.com/2012/06/26/league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen-century-2009-thoughts/ "The Outcast" ->"Stigma" suggests AIDS is fundamentally a minority (i.e., gay) problem. In fact, it is at its worst as a plague afflicting the heterosexual majority in Africa. There’s now an HIV-positive Muppet on TV over there, by the way, if you’re interested in [[PretenderDiss real bravery]]. -->--'''John Ruch''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Boston Herald'' Mindless Ones"]]''' critiquing Creator/AlanMoore's ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen: Century 2009'' ->Some religions consider knowledge a sin. Again, it’s it's a very Christian image – the apple in the Garden of Eden. However, it seems weird for a show embracing Buddhist philosophy to condemn the pursuit of scientific knowledge. Indeed, it seems especially hypocritical to suggest that the Third Doctor’s Doctor's cardinal sin is [='=]''greed "greed for knowledge''[='=] knowledge" and that this merits the character’s character's death. Every iteration of the character has a thirst for knowledge. That’s That's why the Doctor stole the TARDIS, and that’s that's why he would never give it back. If anything, the Third Doctor is ''less'' greedy than his other iterations. Even after his exile is lifted and he’s he's free to return to the cosmos to continue pursuing knowledge, he anchors himself to Earth with the U.N.I.T. family. It feels like Planet of the Spiders almost doesn’t doesn't understand the Third Doctor and this era of the show at all. It tries to wrap up the era with a few of [[NewAgeRetroHippie the superficial trappings]] of the last half-decade... If anything, the Third Doctor’s Doctor's biggest sin is that he didn’t didn't venture out into the universe enough, and it feels like Planet of the Spiders misrepresents that. -->--'''Darren -->-- '''Darren Mooney''' [[http://them0vieblog.com/2013/03/29/doctor-who-planet-of-the-spiders-review/ on]] ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS11E5PlanetofTheSpiders}} "Planet of the Spiders"]] ->This movie haaaaaaaaaaaaates [[StrawmanNewsMedia the media]]. Kinda ironic considering what created the Music/SpiceGirls in the first place. -->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick''', on ''Film/SpiceWorld'' ->When Molly told Nephrite how she felt, [[BeYourself she was being true to herself!]] [[LifeDrain See where that got her?]] Stupid bitch should have kept her mouth shut. -->-- '''Manga/SailorMoon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 16 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->So... this episode was about cheating. I don't know how, exactly. I mean, it seemed pretty kosher to me. The pencil was hers, after all. Just, uh, don't cut corners, kids! -->-- '''Sailor Moon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 17 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->Somehow shooting a diamond and [[AndIMustScream consigning Rassilon to death in the hell of the Time War]] is acceptable, but shooting Rassilon himself is not. Letting the Master [[DraggedOffToHell walk into the Time War]] is acceptable, putting a bullet in him is not. Apparently 'how "how the Master started' started" has [[DoesntLikeGuns everything to do with projectiles]] and nothing to do with an actual system of ethics. Wilf's military service renders him noble, but the use of a gun is wrong. There is no substance to this, just a mess of would-be principles masquerading as a moral.

->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick -- a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly in caution tape, and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much like the Rainbow Express in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was portrayed as a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted with everything he did. After the gimmick was poorly received, he was taken off television before having a short lived comedy tag team with Eric Young... in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have come to loathe. -->--'''''Taimapedia''''' ->Just to make sure we get that Chisolm’s a bad guy, we note that [[FatBastard he’s really fat]] and greasy looking. He quotes [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], noting that while he mistakenly got us to fighting with the Nazis, he was still a 'very brilliant man.' (They have Chisolm mispronounce ‘Delano,’ just to make sure that we know he’s a fraud and a doofus.) As Roosevelt was the architect of Big Government as we know it today, I’d have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? ... Let’s put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More to the point, most if not all of Seagal’s films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements of the U.S. Government.]] So he’s hardly in a position to point at others and yell ‘paranoia.’ -->--'''''Jabootu''''' [[http://www.jabootu.com/patriot.htm on]] Creator/StevenSeagal's ''The Patriot'' ->This movie haaaaaaaaaaaaates [[StrawmanNewsMedia the media]]. Kinda ironic considering what created the Spice Girls in the first place. -->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick''', on ''Film/SpiceWorld'' ->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What I'm saying-- what ''the movie'' appears to be saying-- is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane. -->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/mazes-and-monsters/ on]] ''Film/MazesAndMonsters'' ->''"When Molly told Nephrite how she felt, [[BeYourself she was being true to herself!]] [[LifeDrain See where that got her?]] Stupid bitch should have kept her mouth shut."'' -->-- '''Sailor Moon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 16 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->''"So, this episode was about cheating. I don't know how, exactly. I mean, it seemed pretty kosher to me. The pencil was hers, after all. Just, uh, don't cut corners, kids!"'' -->--'''Sailor Moon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 17 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->''"It's ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. ''Twi-fucking-light''! They don't know what they're talking about! You ''have to know'' you '''don't know'' what you're talking about!"''
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->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick -- ->It's a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly story about genocidal racism... set in caution tape, a holiday camp and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much starring light entertainers. It's like the Rainbow Express Eichmann trial being held in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was portrayed as Toys R Us. It's like a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted bright green water pistol filled with everything he did. After orphans' tears. It's like being murdered by being force-fed party balloons. -->-- '''[[http://shabogangraffiti.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/real-mccoy-and-forgotten-sacrificial.html Shabogan Graffiti]]''' on the gimmick ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "Delta and the Bannermen" ->This story is obviously one of the "message shows," hence the reason why it's structured as it is. Reminds me of a story I once heard from a man at the bus depot about this donkey.\\ It turns out this donkey was poorly received, he was taken off television before having ''very'' smart - for a short lived comedy tag team with Eric Young... in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have come to loathe. -->--'''''Taimapedia''''' ->Just to make sure we get that Chisolm’s a bad guy, we note that [[FatBastard he’s really fat]] donkey, I mean - and greasy looking. He quotes [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], noting that while he mistakenly got us to fighting loved magic tricks. And with the Nazis, he was still a 'very brilliant man.' (They man's help, the donkey began mastering various tricks, which is impressive when you don't have Chisolm mispronounce ‘Delano,’ just sleeves. He worked with the donkey to make sure pull off the [[PullARabbitOutOfMyHat rabbit-out-of-a-hat trick]], but with a fake rabbit, because [[FantasticRacism rabbits and donkeys are natural enemies]] - not a lot of people know that, [[NoodleIncident there's a lot of baggage between the two.]] But the donkey got so good, he wanted to put on a show. Money wasn't even that we know he’s a fraud and a doofus.) As Roosevelt was the architect big of Big Government as we know it today, I’d have thought that he would be the last guy [[CrazySurvivalist militia]] [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic types]] would be quoting. But what do I know? ... Let’s put aside that the filmmakers might have feared alienating the presumably large pro-gun segment of Seagal's fanbase (such as it now is). More a deal to the point, most if not all of Seagal’s films revolve around [[AuthorTract evil plots perpetrated by elements donkey - again, he's got no pockets - he just wants to perform, so kids would get free admittance and everything, just so the donkey could amaze them with his magic. But the night after the theater was rented, [[SignsOfDisrepair part of the U.S. Government.]] So he’s hardly in a position sign announcing the first-ever Donkey Magic Show was stolen]], so the population woke up to point at others a sign declaring "[[BestialityIsDepraved Donkey Show]] - [[CrossesTheLineTwice Kids Watch for Free!]]" And they burned the theater down. The donkey never got to perform magic, [[ShootTheShaggyDog and yell ‘paranoia.’ -->--'''''Jabootu''''' [[http://www.jabootu.com/patriot.htm on]] Creator/StevenSeagal's ''The Patriot'' ->This movie haaaaaaaaaaaaates [[StrawmanNewsMedia he hanged himself tragically.]] And the media]]. Kinda ironic considering what created lesson is learned - [[SpoofAesop magic acts are WRONG.]]\\ That's the Spice Girls in way modern ''[[Franchise/StarTrek 'Trek]]'' seems to handle "message shows." They would construct the first place. ''weirdest'', highly-specific situations to lead... to a highly-questionable conclusion. -->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick''', on ''Film/SpiceWorld'' '''WebSite/SFDebris''', [[http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v950.php reviewing]] ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Critical Care" ->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What I'm saying-- saying - what ''the movie'' appears to be saying-- saying - is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane. -->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment -->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/mazes-and-monsters/ on]] ''Film/MazesAndMonsters'' ->''"When Molly told Nephrite how she felt, [[BeYourself she ->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick - a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly in caution tape, and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much like the Rainbow Express in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was being true to herself!]] [[LifeDrain See where that got her?]] Stupid bitch should portrayed as a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted with everything he did. After the gimmick was poorly received, he was taken off television before having a short lived comedy tag team with Eric Young... in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have kept her mouth shut."'' come to loathe. -->-- '''Sailor Moon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 16 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->''"So, this episode was about cheating. I don't know how, exactly. I mean, it seemed pretty kosher to me. The pencil was hers, after all. Just, uh, don't cut corners, kids!"'' -->--'''Sailor Moon''', giving a "Sailor Says" for episode 17 of ''WebVideo/SailorMoonAbridged'' ->''"It's '''Taimapedia''' ->It's ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. ''Twi-fucking-light''! They don't know what they're talking about! You ''have to know'' you '''don't ''don't know'' what you're talking about!"''about!

->''"If your movie has a problem with [[TakeOurWordForIt showing people doing stuff]], then maybe you shouldn't make a movie about people doing that stuff. You're just confusing the audience."'' -->-- '''DiamandaHagan''' on ''Sting: Moment of Truth'' ->''It is interesting to see them try to draw positive messages from what was not inherently a positive strip; at times, it’s bending it a bit. Peppermint Patty gets quoted for “The world is full of beautiful plants and flowers, but I’m just an ugly weed. I’m a poor ugly weed trying to push her way up through the sidewalk of life!” That is linked to the uplifting message “Be Real”. Ah, the negative self image is a virtue!'' -->-- '''[[http://aaugh.com/wordpress/2014/03/maybe-everyone-is-unique-but-me/ The AAUGH Blog]]''' on the ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' book ''Be Unique'' ->''Obviously people were going out to [drum 'n' bass] nights then, just as they are now, but by 2009 it had long since stopped being at the bleeding edge. [The Drum 'N' Bassment is] not completely incongruous as a name for a club, but it does help bolster the argument that Moore’s out of his depth here ... this is where the youth is, where the new stuff’s happening. Don’t be wagging your finger and telling everyone creativity’s dead if the last time you had any idea what was going on in popular music was 1995.'' -->-- '''Amy of [[http://mindlessones.com/2012/06/26/league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen-century-2009-thoughts/ "The Mindless Ones"]]''' critiquing Creator/AlanMoore's ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen: Century 2009'' ->''It's a story about genocidal racism... set in a holiday camp and starring light entertainers. It's like the Eichmann trial being held in Toys R Us. It's like a bright green water pistol filled with orphans' tears. It's like being murdered by being force-fed party balloons.'' -->-- '''[[http://shabogangraffiti.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/real-mccoy-and-forgotten-sacrificial.html Shabogan Graffiti]]''' on the ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "Delta and the Bannermen".
22nd Apr '15 1:17:13 PM johnnyfog
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->It is laudable that ''[=TNG=]'' is taking on subjects as drug abuse but it doesn’t have the sophistication or the subtlety to handle it with any great sensitivity. You have one race of [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer affluent, arrogant drug dealers]] and one race of desperate addicts and Picard in the middle reminding them all that both sides are behaving unsuitably... I think the ending is supposed to be hard hitting because Picard left the planet to their fate but its another example of the idiocy and hypocrisy of the Prime Directive. I wonder if Picard would so happily spout his philosophy if he were suffering from agonising withdrawal – it makes me think once again that Creator/GeneRoddenberry’s vision (in this case [[WhiteMansBurden the lesser species suffer so the enlightened ones can feel morally superior]]) was fundamentally flawed. -->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/tng-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "Symbiosis"
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->It ->"Stigma" suggests AIDS is laudable that ''[=TNG=]'' is taking on subjects as drug abuse but it doesn’t have the sophistication or the subtlety to handle it with any great sensitivity. You have one race of [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer affluent, arrogant drug dealers]] and one race of desperate addicts and Picard in the middle reminding them all that both sides are behaving unsuitably... I think the ending is supposed to be hard hitting because Picard left the planet to their fate but its another example of the idiocy and hypocrisy of the Prime Directive. I wonder if Picard would so happily spout his philosophy if he were suffering from agonising withdrawal – it makes me think once again that Creator/GeneRoddenberry’s vision (in this case [[WhiteMansBurden the lesser species suffer so the enlightened ones can feel morally superior]]) was fundamentally flawed. -->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/tng-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' a minority (i.e., gay) problem. In fact, it is at its worst as a plague afflicting the heterosexual majority in Africa. There’s now an HIV-positive Muppet on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "Symbiosis" TV over there, by the way, if you’re interested in [[PretenderDiss real bravery]]. -->--'''John Ruch''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Boston Herald''
3rd Apr '15 6:57:35 AM pinkdalek
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->''It's a story about genocidal racism... set in a holiday camp and starring light entertainers. It's like the Eichmann trial being held in Toys R Us. It's like a bright green water pistol filled with orphans' tears. It's like being murdered by being force-fed party balloons.'' -->-- '''[[http://shabogangraffiti.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/real-mccoy-and-forgotten-sacrificial.html Shabogan Graffiti]]''' on the ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "Delta and the Bannermen".
10th Mar '15 7:45:32 AM LahmacunKebab
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->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick -- a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly in caution tape, and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much like the Rainbow Express in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was portrayed as a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted with everything he did. After the gimmick was poorly received, he was taken off television before having a short lived comedy tag team with EricYoung...in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have come to loathe.
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->Orlando Jordan started using an extremely over-the-top bisexual gimmick -- a version of which he'd been pitching to {{Wrestling/WWE}} before it let him go. This gimmick included such segments as him pouring semen-like liquid on himself, descending from the top of the arena wrapped chiefly in caution tape, and talking dirty to a cardboard cutout of Rob Terry. Jordan (who is actually bisexual) defended the gimmick by saying he hoped it would "help troubled teens." Of course, it had the opposite effect: much like the Rainbow Express in early {{Wrestling/TNA}}, Jordan was portrayed as a freak while (announcers) Tenay and Taz both acted completely disgusted with everything he did. After the gimmick was poorly received, he was taken off television before having a short lived comedy tag team with EricYoung...Eric Young... in which he did [[QueerPeopleAreFunny the usual "gay guy" comedy schtick]] wrestling fans have come to loathe.
6th Mar '15 1:41:29 PM Beedle
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->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What I'm saying-- what ''the movie'' appears to be saying-- is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoTheCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane.
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->If ''Mazes & Monsters'' is supposed to be a warning to parents about the dangers of role-playing games, it's not a very good one. I mean, [[NotHelpingYourCase it's making a better counter-argument than anything.]] Consider all of the troubled youths in this picture: most raised by unbalanced or broken families ranging between neglectful to oppressive, patronizing to alcoholic and abusive. It's a strong indicator that the true failure here lies (if I may wax Jungian here) with the poisoned home environments and ([[AllPsychologyIsFreudian or am I waxing Freudian?]]) repressed issues with their parents, be it Jay Jay's inferiority complex, Robbie's guilt over his brother, or Kate's exclusive attachment to male friends as an outlet for her Electra complex brought on by the denial of a strong male influence in her life... What I'm saying-- what ''the movie'' appears to be saying-- is that these kids were messed-up long before they heard of ''Mazes & Monsters''. Hell, if anything, I'd suggest the game brought relatively unlikeable characters like Jay Jay and Robbie into a group where their youth and childhood traumas might have otherwise alienated them. Dare I say the fellowship of their gaming group kept them doing violent acts to themselves or others as evidenced by [[DoNotDoTheCoolThing [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Jay Jay being saved from suicide by the notion of bringing a new dimension to the game and enjoyment to his friends]]... he's not insane because he played ''Mazes & Monsters''. He plays ''Mazes & Monsters'' and happens to be insane.
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