History Quotes / AnimationAgeGhetto

->'''[[RunningGag Calvin's Dad:]]''' How can you stand these cartoons? They're just [[MerchandiseDriven half-hour commercials for toys]]. And when they're not boring, [[AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle they're preachy.]] [[InactionSequence And these characters don't even MOVE.]] [[LimitedAnimation They just stand around blinking!]] What kind of cartoon is THAT?\\

-> Families were in for a surprise when they tuned into ''WesternAnimation/FatherOfThePride''. Promos throughout the 2004 Olympics portrayed it as a wacky new computer-generated comedy by the makers of ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'', revolving around the animals of Siegfried and Roy's Vegas show. PSYCHE! It was actually a sex-obsessed crass-com instead! Riddle me this: Why would you create a show for one demographic, but advertise it for another one? And then scratch your head quizzically when the show mysteriously fails?

->When are you too old to be watching cartoons? Answer: whenever I feel like! I deserve to watch whatever I feel like. You know why? Because [[WesternAnimation this]], [[MST3KMantra it's just a TV show.]] Maybe you'll [[EdutainmentShow learn something from it]], but just for enjoying a TV show, game, movie, song, in the privacy of your home doesn't define you. It won't make you an inferior or superior person. You say [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoons are for kids]] because of [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications that age rating]] in the same way [[Film/TheDarkKnight a PG-13 movie]] is made for 13-year-olds and no-one else is allowed to watch them, no-one. The age rating doesn't mean it's ''made'' for kids, it's that it's ''appropriate'' for kids. [[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness Choosing to only enjoy stuff rated for an older audience doesn't at all make you more mature, it just means you're insecure about what others think of you over such trivial things.]]\\

Then there's people who think a cartoon can't have a good story. If a story was good, it shouldn't matter if it's animated. Stupid. If anything, that should value it more. Can you do [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann this]]? I don't think so! [[UsefulNotes/AdobeFlash Hang on let me push the "Make a Cartoon" button on my]] UsefulNotes/{{Macintosh}}. Animation is a massive group project. Every single object has to be designed. Basic stuff you take for granted requires far more effort than you's expect. People spend their whole life learning to art. No-one's born being a good draw-er.\\

-->-- A UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} review of ''VideoGame/{{Omori}}'', a psychological horror game with an M rating for violence, blood, and strong language.

-> Families were in for a surprise when they tuned into Father of the Pride. Promos throughout the 2004 Olympics portrayed it as a wacky new computer-generated comedy by the makers of Shrek, revolving around the animals of Siegfried and Roy's Vegas show. PSYCHE! It was actually a sex-obsessed crass-com instead! Riddle me this: Why would you create a show for one demographic, but advertise it for another one? And then scratch your head quizzically when the show mysteriously fails?

-->-- '''WebVideo/KyotoVideo'''

-->-- '''Daniel B. Kline''', [[http://www.wickedlocal.com/swampscott/news/lifestyle/columnists/x124609719/DAN-KLINE-COLUMN-Movie-critics-have-lost-all-credibility on]] {{Creator/Pixar}}'s ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}''. Thankfully, [[BerserkButton this has not passed without comment]] here in Troperville (including this very article).

-->-- '''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/gimmick/gimmick.htm Hardcore Gaming 101]]''' on ''VideoGame/MrGimmick'', a [[NintendoHard tough-as-nails]] [[PlatformHell platformer]]... or at least on the reviews by Electronic Gaming Monthly, who mostly dismissed it as a poor, easy Franchise/{{Kirby}} clone.

->''"These guys loved what we were doing. [[DoingItForTheArt They were free to create, to say anything and man, could they animate.]] Not the slick, boring, perfect stuff, but the "I really feel this scene" kinda stuff. I believe in what I am drawing. I believe in what I am drawing. What adult animation means to me is not tits and ass, but the right to animate any subject or idea you have and let the ratings fall where they may. All I wanted to do was animate the things I thought about and not the dolls they thought about."''

->When are you too old to be watching cartoons? Answer: whenever I feel like! I deserve to watch whatever I feel like. You know why? Because [[WesternAnimation this]], [[MST3KMantra it's just a TV show.]] Maybe you'll [[EdutainmentShow learn something from it]], but just for enjoying a [[{{UsefulNotes/Television}} TV show]], [[VideoGame game]], [[{{Film}} movie]], [[{{Music}} song]], in the privacy of your home doesn't define you. It won't make you an inferior or superior person. You say [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoons are for kids]] because of [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications that age rating]] in the same way [[Film/TheDarkKnight a PG-13 movie]] is made for 13-year-olds and no-one else is allowed to watch them, no-one. The age rating doesn't mean it's ''made'' for kids, it's that it's ''appropriate'' for kids. [[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness Choosing to only enjoy stuff rated for an older audience doesn't at all make you more mature, it just means you're insecure about what others think of you over such trivial things.]]\\

->'''Earl:''' [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Yeah, you'd think that because they're puppets, so the show seems to have a children's aesthetic, yet the dialogue is unquestionably sharp-edged, witty, and thematically skewed to adults.]]

-> "There are shackles with the budgets and the profit margins. You want to compete with what they’re doing at {{Creator/Pixar}} and Creator/DreamWorks. There’s a price tag with that just in terms of achieving that quality level. What happened to the Creator/{{Ralph Bakshi}}s of the world? We’re all sitting here talking about family entertainment. Does animation have to be family entertainment? I think at that cost, yes. (...) What I’m saying is we could make animation that’s not for the kids to see, too. I don’t think you want to say, “Hey, bring your family to this movie that’s inappropriate.” But animation can be so much more if we let those boundaries loose."

-->-- ''[[WebVideo/{{TheHarryGoldShow}} Harry Gold]]'' on Film/TheGoonies

-> "I think, animation is one of the most important art forms that we as a species have created. When done well you can do things in animation that are impossible in a live action production. When the imagination of the animators is on full display you can tell any kind of story limited only by budget sometimes limited only by willpower. And yet, a majority of western adults do not like animation "Cause that's just cartoons and cartoons are for kids" and anyone who thinks this way is obviously a fucking moron. Even animation that is for kids is worth appreciating as an art form and yet a significant percent of western audiences look down on the entire medium. A lot of people that will watch [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar a movie about a purple alien stealing magic jewelry from Spider-Man]] will at the same time completely write off [[Film/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse the best superhero movie from the last decade]] just because it's a cartoon."

-> I share the general reaction, it is not the only target audience, but I do believe that children are the primary audience think that's an infamous statement, just unfortunate. And if we see it from a certain point of view, those of us who enjoy animation in a certain way connect with the inner child

-->-- A UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} review of ''VideoGame/{{Omori}}'', a '''psychological horror game'''

-->-- Alice Mitchell, ''Series/DennisTheMenace''.

-->-- '''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/gimmick/gimmick.htm Hardcore Gaming 101]]''' on ''Gimmick!'', a [[NintendoHard tough-as-nails]] [[PlatformHell platformer]]... or at least on the reviews by Electronic Gaming Monthly, who mostly dismissed it as a poor, easy Franchise/{{Kirby}} clone.

->''"[[BerserkButton You got a problem]] [[PreAssKickingOneLiner with cartoons?]]"''

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-->-- '''Budsies'''' [[https://twitter.com/BudsiesToys/status/1283828635179331587 response]] to someone's unsurprisingly surprised reaction to the service making a VideoGame/SonicEXE plush, with blood and all

-->-- '''Michael''', an interviewer over the movie ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTintin'' [[http://www.hollywood.com/news/Adventures_of_Tintin_UK_Trailer_Violence_in_Animated_Movies_Debate/7846799 in this article]].