History Quotes / AnimationAgeGhetto

23rd Jun '16 9:44:40 AM oboeshoes16
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-->"Some of you may be wondering why I would even bother soapboxing for so long about this dumb little cheap animated movie, and really, thatís the most common complaint that people like me get. ďWhy are you wasting your time critiquing something thatís meant for children? Itís for kids, not for you! Why are you getting so worked up over it? Donít you have something better to do with your life?Ē
-->Understand this and understand this well Ė just because something is for children does not give it the right, the privilege, nor the excuse to have NO EFFORT PUT INTO IT!!!
-->A child audience should not be used to justify laziness and apathy in the production line!
-->Thatís what causes idiotic spin-offs and copy-cats with the same tired humor-by-committee every episode.
-->Thatís what causes half-hour toy commercials, especially those made for syndication with 5 new episodes every week, causing nothing but animation glitches, inconsistent writing, and hasty audio editing.
-->Is it not a great feeling to revisit something from your childhood and discover that it has more qualities that you never noticed when you were younger?
-->To find out that it not only could entertain the more basic tastes of a child, but also the more complex tastes of an adult?
-->To realized that the people behind the scenes actually gave a damn about what they were making?
-->Yes, a lot of what I cover on this show is meant for young audiences, and thatís an unfortunate result of the general opinion that animation is something meant for kids, but thatís a topic for a different episode. But I care because I love animation as an art form.
-->I care because I love good storytelling.
-->I care because I remember the movies and shows and people that didnít look down on me simply because I was a child.
-->I care about childrenís animation because I remember the childrenís animation that cared about me.
-->[[WesternAnimation/KatyLaOruga This movie]] didnít care about its audience Ö and thatís why nobody cares about this movie anymore."

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-->"Some ->"Some of you may be wondering why I would even bother soapboxing for so long about this dumb little cheap animated movie, and really, thatís the most common complaint that people like me get. ďWhy are you wasting your time critiquing something thatís meant for children? Itís for kids, not for you! Why are you getting so worked up over it? Donít you have something better to do with your life?Ē
-->Understand ->Understand this and understand this well Ė just because something is for children does not give it the right, the privilege, nor the excuse to have NO EFFORT PUT INTO IT!!!
-->A ->A child audience should not be used to justify laziness and apathy in the production line!
-->Thatís ->Thatís what causes idiotic spin-offs and copy-cats with the same tired humor-by-committee every episode.
-->Thatís ->Thatís what causes half-hour toy commercials, especially those made for syndication with 5 new episodes every week, causing nothing but animation glitches, inconsistent writing, and hasty audio editing.
-->Is ->Is it not a great feeling to revisit something from your childhood and discover that it has more qualities that you never noticed when you were younger?
-->To ->To find out that it not only could entertain the more basic tastes of a child, but also the more complex tastes of an adult?
-->To ->To realized that the people behind the scenes actually gave a damn about what they were making?
-->Yes, ->Yes, a lot of what I cover on this show is meant for young audiences, and thatís an unfortunate result of the general opinion that animation is something meant for kids, but thatís a topic for a different episode. But I care because I love animation as an art form.
-->I ->I care because I love good storytelling.
-->I ->I care because I remember the movies and shows and people that didnít look down on me simply because I was a child.
-->I ->I care about childrenís animation because I remember the childrenís animation that cared about me.
-->[[WesternAnimation/KatyLaOruga ->[[WesternAnimation/KatyLaOruga This movie]] didnít care about its audience Ö and thatís why nobody cares about this movie anymore."
21st Jun '16 11:24:00 PM Adept
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-->--[[FleischerStudios Max Fleischer]], in a letter to animator ShamusCulhane

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-->--[[FleischerStudios -->--[[Creator/FleischerStudios Max Fleischer]], in a letter to animator ShamusCulhane
Creator/ShamusCulhane



-->-- '''Creator/HayaoMiyazaki''', ''Thoughts on [[FleischerStudios Fleischer]]''

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-->-- '''Creator/HayaoMiyazaki''', ''Thoughts on [[FleischerStudios [[Creator/FleischerStudios Fleischer]]''
12th May '16 7:20:22 PM oboeshoes16
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12th May '16 2:28:58 PM oboeshoes16
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-->"Some of you may be wondering why I would even bother soapboxing for so long about this dumb little cheap animated movie, and really, thatís the most common complaint that people like me get. ďWhy are you wasting your time critiquing something thatís meant for children? Itís for kids, not for you! Why are you getting so worked up over it? Donít you have something better to do with your life?Ē
-->Understand this and understand this well Ė just because something is for children does not give it the right, the privilege, nor the excuse to have NO EFFORT PUT INTO IT!!!
-->A child audience should not be used to justify laziness and apathy in the production line!
-->Thatís what causes idiotic spin-offs and copy-cats with the same tired humor-by-committee every episode.
-->Thatís what causes half-hour toy commercials, especially those made for syndication with 5 new episodes every week, causing nothing but animation glitches, inconsistent writing, and hasty audio editing.
-->Is it not a great feeling to revisit something from your childhood and discover that it has more qualities that you never noticed when you were younger?
-->To find out that it not only could entertain the more basic tastes of a child, but also the more complex tastes of an adult?
-->To realized that the people behind the scenes actually gave a damn about what they were making?
-->Yes, a lot of what I cover on this show is meant for young audiences, and thatís an unfortunate result of the general opinion that animation is something meant for kids, but thatís a topic for a different episode. But I care because I love animation as an art form.
-->I care because I love good storytelling.
-->I care because I remember the movies and shows and people that didnít look down on me simply because I was a child.
-->I care about childrenís animation because I remember the childrenís animation that cared about me.
-->[[WesternAnimation/KatyLaOruga This movie]] didnít care about its audience Ö and thatís why nobody cares about this movie anymore."
-->--[[WebVideo/InfamousAnimation ShogunGino]] during the last 3 minutes of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-uqEhFqBE0=40m40s his Katy La Oruga review]]
18th Mar '16 2:09:06 PM Willbyr
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->''Mr. Nick! What are you doing watching'' [[WorldMasterpieceTheater Kids' Masterpiece Theatre]]''? You should be watching shows for your own age!''

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->''Mr. Nick! What are you doing watching'' [[WorldMasterpieceTheater [[Anime/WorldMasterpieceTheater Kids' Masterpiece Theatre]]''? You should be watching shows for your own age!''
6th Feb '16 11:41:58 PM nombretomado
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From the beginning, cartoons were always made for everyone. [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation Since]] TheTwenties [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation through]] [[TheSixties Sixties]], animated shorts like the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes were played in movie theaters and drive-ins before films. Generally, it was for all ages. [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Occasionally, inappropriate stuff was snuck in.]] [[TheDarkAgeOfAnimation TV later became more prominent.]] Creator/{{Hanna Barbera}}'s studios made animation more and marketable towards children, since they felt adults wouldn't get past their more LimitedAnimation, and that's were the stigma came to be. [[Anime/GhostInTheShell Multiple attempts]] [[WesternAnimation/HeavyMetal have been]] [[Literature/AScannerDarkly made to make]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Nine}} more mature]], [[Manga/{{AKIRA}} theatrical animation]], but never did that break into mainstream success. [[AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark At most, people accept animation as comedy,]] [[ComedyGhetto and they think there's only comedy in animation.]] [[Heartwarming/WesternAnimation It's, it's not.]] [[TearJerker/WesternAnimation No. Stupid.]]\\

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From the beginning, cartoons were always made for everyone. [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation Since]] TheTwenties [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation through]] [[TheSixties Sixties]], animated shorts like the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes were played in movie theaters and drive-ins before films. Generally, it was for all ages. [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Occasionally, inappropriate stuff was snuck in.]] [[TheDarkAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfAnimation TV later became more prominent.]] Creator/{{Hanna Barbera}}'s studios made animation more and marketable towards children, since they felt adults wouldn't get past their more LimitedAnimation, and that's were the stigma came to be. [[Anime/GhostInTheShell Multiple attempts]] [[WesternAnimation/HeavyMetal have been]] [[Literature/AScannerDarkly made to make]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Nine}} more mature]], [[Manga/{{AKIRA}} theatrical animation]], but never did that break into mainstream success. [[AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark At most, people accept animation as comedy,]] [[ComedyGhetto and they think there's only comedy in animation.]] [[Heartwarming/WesternAnimation It's, it's not.]] [[TearJerker/WesternAnimation No. Stupid.]]\\
7th Dec '15 8:41:58 AM Hossmeister
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-->--'''[[Franchise/AceAttorney Pearl Fey]]''' (Age 9), ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Justice For All''

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-->--'''[[Franchise/AceAttorney Pearl Fey]]''' (Age 9), ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Justice For All''
''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll''
18th Oct '15 7:14:42 PM nombretomado
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->''"[[TVTropes The site]] prides itself on covering as broad a range of fiction as possible, emerging as a sometimes fascinating form of populist, open-access media scholarship. In theory, this would make it the perfect place to cover lost gems of animation, but in practice it has many blind spots. There is little discussion about [[Creator/JanSvankmajer (Jan) Svankmajer]] or [[Film/PropertyOfTheRepublic Yuri]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taltn1aLtsM Norstein]], while juvenile mediocrities such as {{Disney}}'s {{WesternAnimation/Gargoyles}} are treated as masterpieces on a par with the television dramas of [[Series/PenniesFromHeaven Dennis]] [[Series/TheSingingDetective Potter]] and [[Creator/DavidSimon David]] [[Series/TheWire Simon]]. TV Tropes has a page devoted to what it calls the Animation Age Ghetto, which gives a reasonable if scattershot overview of the subject. The page's "examples" section, however, consists in large part of people filibustering about how their favorite superhero cartoons never caught on. The main reason that most of these cartoons never attracted adult audiences, of course, is that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids they are simply not for adults.]]"''

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->''"[[TVTropes The site]] prides itself on covering as broad a range of fiction as possible, emerging as a sometimes fascinating form of populist, open-access media scholarship. In theory, this would make it the perfect place to cover lost gems of animation, but in practice it has many blind spots. There is little discussion about [[Creator/JanSvankmajer (Jan) Svankmajer]] or [[Film/PropertyOfTheRepublic Yuri]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taltn1aLtsM Norstein]], while juvenile mediocrities such as {{Disney}}'s {{Creator/Disney}}'s {{WesternAnimation/Gargoyles}} are treated as masterpieces on a par with the television dramas of [[Series/PenniesFromHeaven Dennis]] [[Series/TheSingingDetective Potter]] and [[Creator/DavidSimon David]] [[Series/TheWire Simon]]. TV Tropes has a page devoted to what it calls the Animation Age Ghetto, which gives a reasonable if scattershot overview of the subject. The page's "examples" section, however, consists in large part of people filibustering about how their favorite superhero cartoons never caught on. The main reason that most of these cartoons never attracted adult audiences, of course, is that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids they are simply not for adults.]]"''
4th Oct '15 12:03:02 AM rjd1922
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->''"Itís not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kidsí fairy tale. But it doesnít do one thing. [[BeserkButton And, next time I hear, ĎWhatís it like working in the animation genre?í Iím going to punch that person!]]Ē''

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->''"Itís not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kidsí fairy tale. But it doesnít do one thing. [[BeserkButton [[BerserkButton And, next time I hear, ĎWhatís it like working in the animation genre?í Iím going to punch that person!]]Ē''
4th Oct '15 12:02:24 AM rjd1922
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->''"Itís not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kidsí fairy tale. But it doesnít do one thing. [[BeserkButton And, next time I hear, ĎWhatís it like working in the animation genre?í Iím going to punch that person!]]Ē''
-->-- '''Creator/BradBird''' on the DVD commentary of ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''
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