History Quotes / AnimationAgeGhetto

4th Apr '17 5:09:25 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''Daniel B. Kline''', [[http://www.wickedlocal.com/swampscott/news/lifestyle/columnists/x124609719/DAN-KLINE-COLUMN-Movie-critics-have-lost-all-credibility on]] {{Pixar}}'s ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}''. Thankfully, [[BerserkButton this has not passed without comment]] here in Troperville (including this very article).

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-->-- '''Daniel B. Kline''', [[http://www.wickedlocal.com/swampscott/news/lifestyle/columnists/x124609719/DAN-KLINE-COLUMN-Movie-critics-have-lost-all-credibility on]] {{Pixar}}'s {{Creator/Pixar}}'s ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}''. Thankfully, [[BerserkButton this has not passed without comment]] here in Troperville (including this very article).



-> "There are shackles with the budgets and the profit margins. You want to compete with what they’re doing at {{Pixar}} and Creator/DreamWorks. There’s a price tag with that just in terms of achieving that quality level. What happened to the Creator/{{Ralph Bakshi}}s of the world? We’re all sitting here talking about family entertainment. Does animation have to be family entertainment? I think at that cost, yes. (...) What I’m saying is we could make animation that’s not for the kids to see, too. I don’t think you want to say, “Hey, bring your family to this movie that’s inappropriate.” But animation can be so much more if we let those boundaries loose."

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-> "There are shackles with the budgets and the profit margins. You want to compete with what they’re doing at {{Pixar}} {{Creator/Pixar}} and Creator/DreamWorks. There’s a price tag with that just in terms of achieving that quality level. What happened to the Creator/{{Ralph Bakshi}}s of the world? We’re all sitting here talking about family entertainment. Does animation have to be family entertainment? I think at that cost, yes. (...) What I’m saying is we could make animation that’s not for the kids to see, too. I don’t think you want to say, “Hey, bring your family to this movie that’s inappropriate.” But animation can be so much more if we let those boundaries loose."
20th Mar '17 12:28:07 AM rjd1922
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->''"It’s not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kids’ fairy tale. But it doesn’t do one thing. [[BerserkButton And, next time I hear, ‘What’s it like working in the animation genre?’ I’m going to punch that person!]]”''

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->''"It’s ->''"People think of animation only doing things where people are dancing around and doing a lot of histrionics, but animation is not a genre. And people keep saying, ‘The animation genre.’ It’s not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre. You know, it can do a detective film, a cowboy film, a horror film, an R-rated film or a kids’ fairy tale. But it doesn’t do one thing. [[BerserkButton And, next time I hear, ‘What’s it like working in the animation genre?’ I’m going to punch that person!]]”''
16th Feb '17 2:20:59 PM Mewseeker
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->''Why is everything so super serious? They all are cartoon characters.''
-->-- '''[[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIFFHe4tvOkpQXexgdYoIHw GSDBoxer]]''', [[https://youtu.be/HvOoTwXIUTE reacting]] to the scenario "Lost" in [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/CreepyCastle Creepy Castle]].
13th Jan '17 12:10:15 AM Xtifr
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'''[[Literature/WhereTheWildThingsAre Maurice]] [[Literature/LittleBear Sendak]]:''' I don't write for children.\\

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'''[[Literature/WhereTheWildThingsAre Maurice]] [[Literature/LittleBear Sendak]]:''' '''Creator/MauriceSendak:''' I don't write for children.\\
9th Jan '17 5:01:51 PM rjd1922
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->''"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest."''

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->''"A children's children’s story that can only be which is enjoyed only by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.bad children’s story."''
6th Nov '16 12:58:26 AM JetpackPercy
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-->-- '''Hardcore Gaming 101''' on ''Gimmick!'', a [[NintendoHard tough-as-nails]] [[PlatformHell platformer]]... or at least on the reviews by Electronic Gaming Monthly, who mostly dismissed it as a poor, easy Franchise/{{Kirby}} clone.

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-->-- '''Hardcore '''[[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/gimmick/gimmick.htm Hardcore Gaming 101''' 101]]''' on ''Gimmick!'', a [[NintendoHard tough-as-nails]] [[PlatformHell platformer]]... or at least on the reviews by Electronic Gaming Monthly, who mostly dismissed it as a poor, easy Franchise/{{Kirby}} clone.
29th Oct '16 11:45:33 PM JetpackPercy
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->"Based on the comments regarding the difficulty, three out of the four reviewers clearly didn't play ''Gimmick!'' for any length of time, if at all, only to dismiss it as "kid" stuff because it looks bright and cutesy. There are also six levels (seven if you count the hidden final stage, [[NintendoHard which requires incredible skill to get to)]] so they seemed to have based their review off an incorrect fact sheet of some kind."
-->-- '''Hardcore Gaming 101''' on ''Gimmick!'', a [[NintendoHard tough-as-nails]] [[PlatformHell platformer]]... or at least on the reviews by Electronic Gaming Monthly, who mostly dismissed it as a poor, easy Franchise/{{Kirby}} clone.
22nd Sep '16 9:13:34 PM nombretomado
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->''Animation and film in this country really started back in the day with two different styles of performing: {{Melodrama}} (if you look to your classical black-and-white silent films, ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'', Creator/DWGriffith stuff) and vaudeville (Creator/BusterKeaton, Creator/CharlieChaplin); and if you look at animation, it's pretty similar. The WarnerBros, WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes stuff tends to be the vaudevillian, Daffy Duck-fall-on-his-face kind of thing, and [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] tends to be the melodrama. But Disney was obsessed with doing childhood fantasy, and that became sort of the dominant theme for animation. So, animation in this country sort of got equated with one genre; the entire medium of animation in America kind of got associated with this one genre- "for children," [[TropeCodifier and that's pretty much because of Disney]]. The only alternative, then, is the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes sort of "irreverent animation", which then turns into ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', where it's going to be very adult, {{Satire}} sort of storytelling, and there's a wasteland in the middle.''

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->''Animation and film in this country really started back in the day with two different styles of performing: {{Melodrama}} (if you look to your classical black-and-white silent films, ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'', ''Film/{{The Birth of a Nation|1915}}'', Creator/DWGriffith stuff) and vaudeville (Creator/BusterKeaton, Creator/CharlieChaplin); and if you look at animation, it's pretty similar. The WarnerBros, WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes stuff tends to be the vaudevillian, Daffy Duck-fall-on-his-face kind of thing, and [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] tends to be the melodrama. But Disney was obsessed with doing childhood fantasy, and that became sort of the dominant theme for animation. So, animation in this country sort of got equated with one genre; the entire medium of animation in America kind of got associated with this one genre- "for children," [[TropeCodifier and that's pretty much because of Disney]]. The only alternative, then, is the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes sort of "irreverent animation", which then turns into ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', where it's going to be very adult, {{Satire}} sort of storytelling, and there's a wasteland in the middle.''
16th Sep '16 10:31:24 AM FF32
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->''"I know in Hollywood there is a perceived hierarchy of movies and doing something live-action is somehow better than an animated movie. It is why ''Anime/{{Akira}}'' can never be left alone and every year we get the "''AKIRA'' is being made live action!!!" news headline. But in an age where movies like ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'' are crushing other live-action movies (or in the case of an already existing franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' animated movie) I don't get what the fetish is. People just haven't learned. There are things you can get away with in cartoons that you just can't in real life. The [[Film/ScoobyDoo real life Scooby gang]] looks friggin' stupid, ''[[Film/TheFlintstones The Flintstones]]'' looked hideous, and a real life Homer Simpson would be a wide-awake nightmare."''

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->''"I know in Hollywood there is a perceived hierarchy of movies and doing something live-action is somehow better than an animated movie. It is why ''Anime/{{Akira}}'' ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' can never be left alone and every year we get the "''AKIRA'' is being made live action!!!" news headline. But in an age where movies like ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'' are crushing other live-action movies (or in the case of an already existing franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' animated movie) I don't get what the fetish is. People just haven't learned. There are things you can get away with in cartoons that you just can't in real life. The [[Film/ScoobyDoo real life Scooby gang]] looks friggin' stupid, ''[[Film/TheFlintstones The Flintstones]]'' looked hideous, and a real life Homer Simpson would be a wide-awake nightmare."''
10th Sep '16 1:49:41 PM NoSpoilerz
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->When are you too old to be watching cartoons? Answer: whenever I feel like! I deserve to watch whatever I feel like. You know why? Because [[WesternAnimation this]], [[MST3KMantra it's just a TV show.]] Maybe you'll [[EdutainmentShow learn something from it]], but just for enjoying a [[{{UsefulNotes/Television}} TV show]], [[VideoGame game]], [[{{Film}} movie]], [[{{Music}} song]], in the privacy of your home doesn't define you. It won't make you an inferior or superior person. You say [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoons are for kids]] because of [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications that age rating]] in the same way [[Film/TheDarkKnight a PG-13 movie]] is made for 13-year-olds and no-one else is allowed to watch them, no-one. The age rating doesn't mean it's ''made'' for kids, it's that it's ''appropriate'' for kids. [[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness Choosing to only enjoy stuff rated for an older audience doesn't at all make you more mature, it just means your insecure about what others think of you over such trivial things.]]\\

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->When are you too old to be watching cartoons? Answer: whenever I feel like! I deserve to watch whatever I feel like. You know why? Because [[WesternAnimation this]], [[MST3KMantra it's just a TV show.]] Maybe you'll [[EdutainmentShow learn something from it]], but just for enjoying a [[{{UsefulNotes/Television}} TV show]], [[VideoGame game]], [[{{Film}} movie]], [[{{Music}} song]], in the privacy of your home doesn't define you. It won't make you an inferior or superior person. You say [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoons are for kids]] because of [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications that age rating]] in the same way [[Film/TheDarkKnight a PG-13 movie]] is made for 13-year-olds and no-one else is allowed to watch them, no-one. The age rating doesn't mean it's ''made'' for kids, it's that it's ''appropriate'' for kids. [[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness Choosing to only enjoy stuff rated for an older audience doesn't at all make you more mature, it just means your you're insecure about what others think of you over such trivial things.]]\\
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