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** The police tape knives to the hands and feet of martial artists to make them less dangerous. It somehow works.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Dave is a SoreLoser and his defeat by unarmed Bob causes him to escalate to being ever more dangerously armed and willing to tolerate collateral damage in his obsession with repaying the slight.



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* '''Parodied''': Dave brings so many knives with him that he can't stand up under the weight.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Dave brings so many knives with him that he can't stand up under the weight.weight.
** Dave and Bob are initially even when fighting unarmed, but the moment Dave pulls a knife, Bob immediately punches his lights out.

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* '''Straight''': Dave pulls out a knife and is defeated by Bob.

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* '''Straight''': Dave pulls out a knife and is defeated by the unarmed Bob.



** Dave brings a bunch of armed buddies to a fight with Bob and his side still gets defeated.



** Dave is defeated by Bob, but not before landing a few minor cuts.



** Bob has SuperReflexes and easily avoids Dave's attacks.

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** Bob has CombatClairvoyance or SuperReflexes and easily avoids Dave's attacks.



* '''Averted''': Knives and fists are about even, so no one's guaranteed to win based on their choice of weapon.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Knives and fists are about even, so no one's guaranteed to win based on their choice of weapon.weapon.
** No unarmed vs armed fight ever occurs in the work, only either fights with all participants armed or with all unarmed.
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** Dave instantly (and fatally) stabs Bob.
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* '''Downplayed''': Armed opponents tend to lose, but that's because they're all significantly less skilled than the protagonist. When a competent weapon user shows up, the hero's in trouble.
** Most knife wielders are noted to have the same pitfalls as {{ExtremityExtremist}}s. Thus they are easier to predict even if experienced against other knife fighters. However a fighter who is trained to use their whole body and the knife is still at an advantage.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Armed opponents tend to lose, but that's because they're all significantly less skilled than the protagonist. When a competent weapon user shows up, the hero's in trouble.
** Most knife wielders are noted to have the same pitfalls as {{ExtremityExtremist}}s.{{Extremity Extremist}}s. Thus they are easier to predict even if experienced against other knife fighters. However a fighter who is trained to use their whole body and the knife is still at an advantage.

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** Bob is skilled at self-defense and martial arts while Dave is just some punk with a knife. While Dave has the weapon, he lacks the training Bob has and is quickly subdued. against Craig, who has similar martial-arts skill AND a knife, Bob is subdued.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor to even the odds when fighting barehanded.

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** Bob is skilled at self-defense and martial arts while Dave is just some punk with a knife. While Dave has the weapon, he lacks the training Bob has and is quickly subdued. against Against Craig, who has similar martial-arts skill AND a knife, Bob is subdued.
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Bob starts wearing body armor to even the odds when fighting barehanded.
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* Most knife wielders are noted to have the same pitfalls as ExtremityExtremists. Thus they are easier to predict even if experienced against other knife fighters. However a fighter who is trained to use their whole body and the knife is still at an advantage.

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* ** Most knife wielders are noted to have the same pitfalls as ExtremityExtremists.as {{ExtremityExtremist}}s. Thus they are easier to predict even if experienced against other knife fighters. However a fighter who is trained to use their whole body and the knife is still at an advantage.



** Bob specialises in anti-knife takedowns, allowing him an edge even against armed martial artists.

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** Bob specialises specializes in anti-knife takedowns, allowing him an edge even against armed martial artists.
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* Most knife wielders are noted to have the same pitfalls as ExtremityExtremists. Thus they are easier to predict even if experienced against other knife fighters. However a fighter who is trained to use their whole body and the knife is still at an advantage.

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** Bob is skilled at self-defense and martial arts while Dave is just some punk with a knife. While Dave has the weapon, he lacks the training Bob has and is quickly subdued.

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** Bob is skilled at self-defense and martial arts while Dave is just some punk with a knife. While Dave has the weapon, he lacks the training Bob has and is quickly subdued. against Craig, who has similar martial-arts skill AND a knife, Bob is subdued.


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**Bob specialises in anti-knife takedowns, allowing him an edge even against armed martial artists.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Since he can't win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Since he can't win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.back.
** Bob is skilled at self-defense and martial arts while Dave is just some punk with a knife. While Dave has the weapon, he lacks the training Bob has and is quickly subdued.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Dave keeps pulling out knives, while Bob uses progressively more improbable barehanded disarms to take them away.

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Dave keeps pulling out knives, while Bob uses progressively more improbable barehanded disarms to take them away.
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** Barring occasional flukes or surprise attacks, the fighter with the superior skill wins, ties going to the one with the knife. Bob the [[SemperFi Marine]] [[CurbStompBattle trounced]] petty muggers coming at him with a knife using only his fists, kills unarmed fanatical cultists trying to do a VirginSacrifice with his combat knife, but loses to Vladimir the Spetznaz coming at him with a knife when he's unarmed. Charlie comes at Dave, both everyman, with a knife after his wife cheated on him with Dave, and easily wins. Every once in a while, an inexperienced fighter gets a lucky hit on an opponent who was way out of his league.
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* '''Downplayed''': Armed opponents tend to lose, but that's because they are all significantly less skilled than the protagonist. When a competent weapon user shows up, the hero is in trouble.

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* '''Downplayed''': Armed opponents tend to lose, but that's because they are they're all significantly less skilled than the protagonist. When a competent weapon user shows up, the hero is hero's in trouble.



** Bob gives Dave a thrashing until the latter reveals a second knife and stabs him.
** Dave proves to be better than Bob expected and the latter can barely hold his own, not getting any good hits in.

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** Bob gives Dave a thrashing good beating until the latter reveals brings out a second knife and stabs him.
** Dave proves to be better than Bob expected and the latter can barely hold his own, not getting any good hits in.expected.



* '''Averted''': Knives and fists are about even, no one is guaranteed to win based on their choice of weapon.

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* '''Averted''': Knives and fists are about even, so no one is one's guaranteed to win based on their choice of weapon.



* '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or {{Power Fist}}s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot can't win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or {{Power Fist}}s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.

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* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???Bob is secretly MadeOfIron and goes into battle barehanded against Dave, who is armed with a knife. Bob counts on Dave being taken by surprised, allowing for a quick win.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Armed opponents tend to lose, but that's because they are all significantly less skilled than the protagonist. When a competent weapon user shows up, the hero is in trouble.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls out a gun, [[BatterUp a baseball bat]], a sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Dave pulls out a gun, [[BatterUp a baseball bat]], a sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.



* '''Justified''': Dave doesn't know how to use his weapon properly, while Bob is a highly-trained martial artist.

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* '''Justified''': '''Downplayed''': ???
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Dave doesn't know how to use his weapon properly, while Bob is a highly-trained martial artist.



* '''Subverted''': Bob gives Dave a thrashing until the latter reveals a second knife and stabs him.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Bob gives Dave a thrashing until the latter reveals a second knife and stabs him.



* '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or {{Power Fist}}s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.



* '''Defied''': Dave throws his knife away before the fight.

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* '''Defied''': '''Exploited''': ???
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Dave throws his knife away before the fight.



* '''PlayedForLaughs''': Bob keeps a running tally of how many times Dave's brought a knife to a fistfight. "You're a slow learner."

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* '''PlayedForLaughs''': '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar or stabs him in the back.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or {{Power Fist}}s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.
* '''Played For Laughs''':
Bob keeps a running tally of how many times Dave's brought a knife to a fistfight. "You're a slow learner."



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The other way a weapon user can prevent himself from getting taken out by an unarmed fighter IS to get better!

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** Dave gets training in resisting and countering disarms as well as how to use his weapon properly.

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* '''Straight''': Dave pulls a knife and is defeated by Bob.
* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls a gun, [[BatterUp a baseball bat]], a sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.

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* '''Straight''': Dave pulls out a knife and is defeated by Bob.
* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls out a gun, [[BatterUp a baseball bat]], a sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.



* '''Subverted''': Bob gives Dave a trashing until the latter pulls a second knife and stabs him.

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* '''Subverted''': Bob gives Dave a trashing thrashing until the latter pulls reveals a second knife and stabs him.



* '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar, stabs him InTheBack or brings friends.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Since he cannot win in a fair fight, the next time they meet, Dave just shoots Bob from afar, afar or stabs him InTheBack or brings friends.in the back.



* '''Lampshaded''': When Dave pulls a knife, Bob points out that he's better at fighting with his hands.

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* '''Lampshaded''': When Dave pulls out a knife, Bob points out that he's better at fighting with his hands.



** Bob pulls his own knife.
** Dave gets training in resisting and countering disarms as well as how to use his weapon properly.



* '''Conversed''': "Hey, this guy pulled a knife. Bet you he's about to get his ass kicked."
* '''PlayedForLaughs''': Bob keeps a running tally of how many time's Dave's brought a knife to a fistfight. "You're a slow learner."
* '''PlayedForDrama''': Dave and Bob grapple over the knife, Dave slowly forces the knife towards Bob's throat, then gets knocked over and falls on his own blade.

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* '''Conversed''': "Hey, this guy just pulled out a knife. Bet you he's about to get his ass kicked."
* '''PlayedForLaughs''': Bob keeps a running tally of how many time's times Dave's brought a knife to a fistfight. "You're a slow learner."
* '''PlayedForDrama''': Dave and Bob grapple over the knife, Dave slowly forces the knife towards Bob's throat, then gets knocked over and falls on his own blade.
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** Dave gets training in resisting and countering disarms as well as how to use his weapon properly.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls a gun, {{Bat|ter Up}}, sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls a gun, {{Bat|ter Up}}, [[BatterUp a baseball bat]], a sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.Bob.
** Dave pulls out a ''rocket launcher'' and Bob still defeats him.
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** Bob has SuperReflexes and easily avoids Dave's attacks.
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** Dave proves to be better than Bob expected and the latter can barely hold his own, not getting any good hits in.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls a gun and still gets defeated by Bob.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Dave pulls a gun gun, {{Bat|ter Up}}, sword etc. and still gets defeated by Bob.


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** Bob pulls his own knife.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or [[PowerFist]]s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.

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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob starts wearing body armor or [[PowerFist]]s {{Power Fist}}s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.

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* '''Inverted''': ???

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* '''Inverted''': ???Knives always beat fists.



* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???Dave brings so many knives with him that he can't stand up under the weight.



* '''Reconstructed''': ???
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* '''PlayedForLaughs''': ???
* '''PlayedForDrama''': ???
* '''Plotted A Perfectly Good Waste''': ???

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* '''Reconstructed''': ???
Bob starts wearing body armor or [[PowerFist]]s to even the odds when fighting barehanded.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
Dave keeps pulling out knives, while Bob uses progressively more improbable barehanded disarms to take them away.
* '''Averted''': ???
Knives and fists are about even, no one is guaranteed to win based on their choice of weapon.
* '''Enforced''': ???
"We need to show how skilled Bob is in this scene, so let's have him bring down a better-armed opponent with his bare hands."
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
When Dave pulls a knife, Bob points out that he's better at fighting with his hands.
* '''Invoked''': ???
Bob gives Dave a knife, knowing that he's inexperienced with it and won't be as skilled barehanded.
* '''Defied''': ???
Dave throws his knife away before the fight.
* '''Discussed''': ???
Bob explains how better-armed fighters get complacent and make mistakes.
* '''Conversed''': ???
"Hey, this guy pulled a knife. Bet you he's about to get his ass kicked."
* '''PlayedForLaughs''': ???
Bob keeps a running tally of how many time's Dave's brought a knife to a fistfight. "You're a slow learner."
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* '''Plotted A Perfectly Good Waste''': ???
Dave and Bob grapple over the knife, Dave slowly forces the knife towards Bob's throat, then gets knocked over and falls on his own blade.

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