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** Alice believes that encouraging others isn't effective enough and that being completely negative is the only way for them to take things seriously and improve themselves.
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** Alice believes that encouraging others isn't effective enough and that [[CruelToBeKind being completely negative is the only way for them to take things seriously and improve themselves.themselves]].
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* '''Played For Drama''': Alice is genuinely well-intentioned, but she doesn't seem to know how to give a compliment, leading her to lament that she can't show her affection the normal way.
* '''Implied''': Alice harshly criticizes Bob's book, but once he publishes it, she's first in line to buy it.
* '''Implied''': Alice harshly criticizes Bob's book, but once he publishes it, she's first in line to buy it.
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** While Alice might have good points about her intended targets, her inability to recognize the flaws in her own perspective and criticism means that her critiques are at best deeply biased or built on faulty logic, or at worst using her supposed "compassion" as something to hide behind to avoid any serious scrutiny. Anyone who ''does'' take a closer look end up realizing that she's either a complete KnowNothingKnowItAll, or just a massive jerk trying to appropriate criticism for her own selfish agenda.
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** While Alice might have good points about her intended targets, her inability to recognize the flaws in her own perspective and criticism means that her critiques are at best deeply biased or built on faulty logic, or at worst using her supposed "compassion" as something to hide behind to avoid any serious scrutiny. Anyone who ''does'' take a closer look end up realizing that she's either a complete KnowNothingKnowItAll, or just a massive jerk trying to appropriate criticism for so self-righteous in her own selfish agenda."compassionate criticism" that her advice is utterly useless in anything except to tear people down.
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** While Alice might have good points about her intended targets, her inability to recognize the flaws in her own perspective and criticism means that her critiques are at best deeply biased or built on faulty logic, or at worst using her supposed "compassion" as something to hide behind to avoid any serious scrutiny. Anyone who ''does'' take a closer look end up realizing that she's either a complete KnowNothingKnowItAll, or just a massive jerk trying to appropriate criticism for her own selfish agenda.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The more that Alice points out her friends' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-hearted intentions]].
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** The more that Alice points out her friends' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-heartedintentions]].intentions]].
** Alice points out her friends' flaws in such a rude and tactless way that she loses their friendship.
** The more that Alice points out her friends' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-hearted
** Alice points out her friends' flaws in such a rude and tactless way that she loses their friendship.
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* '''Parodied''': ???Alice brutally dissects a three-year-old's finger painting, then admonishes him for crying. "This is for your own good!"
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** Alice believes that complimenting them on their pros will make her ignore their cons, and not telling them about their cons will not perfect them.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side shows up that this makes her less so]].
** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side shows up that this makes her less so]].
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** Alice believes that complimenting them on their pros will make her them ignore their cons, and not telling them about their cons will not perfect them.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side shows up enough that this makes her less so]].
** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side shows up enough that this makes her less so]].
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since they've improved their flaws.
* '''Double Subverted''': Only to indignantly point out how there are other flaws they have to improve on.
* '''Double Subverted''': Only to indignantly point out how there are other flaws they have to improve on.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since once they've improved their flaws.
* '''Double Subverted''': Only toindignantly immediately point out how there are other flaws they have to improve on.now.
* '''Double Subverted''': Only to
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* '''Invoked''': To make sure that his friends doesn't get angry at her, Alice gives them a reason for her critical attitude.
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* '''Invoked''': To make sure that his her friends doesn't don't get angry at her, Alice gives them a reason for her critical attitude.
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** Alice doesn't want to fall into those blunt critics, so she goes bettering people by focusing on their strengths.
* '''Discussed''': "Oh, it's always have to be those people who act hard on us in order to better us."
* '''Discussed''': "Oh, it's always have to be those people who act hard on us in order to better us."
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** Alice doesn't want to fall into be one of those blunt critics, so she goes bettering betters people by focusing on their strengths.
* '''Discussed''': "Oh,it's it always have has to be those people who act hard on us me in order to better us.me that I run into. Just once I'd like to hear some actual encouragement."
* '''Discussed''': "Oh,
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* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice's criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they thanked Alice and continue enjoying their success.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice's criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they thanked thank Alice and continue enjoying their success.
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side gets to her that this makes her less so]].
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side gets to her shows up that this makes her less so]].
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* '''Enforced''': "Critics are seen as jerks. Let's create a critic who has a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good heart]]."
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* '''Enforced''': "Critics are seen as jerks. Let's create a critic who has a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good heart]].intentions."
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** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't mean you can be mean about it."
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** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't mean give you can the right to be mean about it."
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* '''Deconstructed''': The more that Alice points out the others' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-hearted nature]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice' well-intentioned criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue enjoying their success.
* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice' well-intentioned criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue enjoying their success.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The more that Alice points out the others' her friends' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-hearted nature]].
intentions]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resentAlice' well-intentioned Alice's criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue enjoying their success.
* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent
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'''Basic Trope''': A character criticizes others, but cares deeply than they think.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character criticizes others, but cares deeply than they think.about them.
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* '''Averted''': Alice praises others for their pros and ignores the cons.
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* '''Averted''': Alice praises helps others for their pros and ignores the cons.improve without being critical about it.
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* '''Invoked''': To make sure that his friends doesn't get angry at her, Alice gives a reason for her critical attitude.
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* '''Invoked''': To make sure that his friends doesn't get angry at her, Alice gives them a reason for her critical attitude.
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** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give you any reason to be mean about it."
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** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give mean you any reason to can be mean about it."
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* '''Conversed''': ???"Why does it seem that in fiction that critics are portrayed as altruistic?"
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* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice' well-intentioned criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue living in success.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice' well-intentioned criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue living in continue enjoying their success.
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]].
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean]].mean]], but her [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold soft side gets to her that this makes her less so]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A character criticizes others, but only for making them better.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character criticizes others, but only for making them better.cares deeply than they think.
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** Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean.
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean.mean]].
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since they've improved a flaw.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since they've improved a flaw.their flaws.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestants long drawn out [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on their poor performances]] all before saying in a sad, tearful tone "because I care!"
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* '''Reconstructed''': But the more they resent Alice' well-intentioned criticism, [[GoneHorriblyRight the better they become]]. After that, they reluctantly thanked Alice for her BrutalHonesty and go continue living in success.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestantslong drawn out [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on long drawn out lectures about their poor performances]] all before saying in a sad, tearful tone "because I care!"
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestants
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of coming across as an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but the fact is she's anything but.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of coming across as an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, exactly like a DrillSergeantNasty, but the fact is she's anything but.it does make everyone better.
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** Alice realizes believes that pointing out flaws can get complimenting them to improve themselves. on their pros will make her ignore their cons, and not telling them about their cons will not perfect them.
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** Alice believes that encouraging others isn't effective enough and that being completely negative is the only way for them to take things seriously and improve themselves.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since they've gotten better.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice then starts praising others since they've gotten better.improved a flaw.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of coming across as an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but the fact is she isn't.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of coming across as an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but the fact is she isn't.she's anything but.
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Alice then starts praising others since they've gotten better.
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* '''Defied''': "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give you any reason to be mean about it."
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** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give you any reason to be mean about it.""
** Alice doesn't want to fall into those blunt critics, so she goes bettering people by focusing on their strengths.
** "So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give you any reason to be mean about it.
** Alice doesn't want to fall into those blunt critics, so she goes bettering people by focusing on their strengths.
* '''Deconstructed''': The more that Alice points out the others' flaws, the more they [[CantTakeCriticism resent her and ignore her good-hearted nature]].
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* '''Enforced''': "Critics are seen as jerks. Let's create a critic who isn't as critical as they seem."
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* '''Enforced''': "Critics are seen as jerks. Let's create a critic who isn't as critical as they seem.has a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good heart]]."
* '''Lampshaded''':???"Alice may be blunt, but I'm telling you. She does want the best for us."
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestants long drawn out {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performances all before saying in a sad, tearful tone "because I care!"
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestants long drawn out {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on their poor performances performances]] all before saying in a sad, tearful tone "because I care!"
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is judge for a singing contest who gives contestants {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performance all before saying in a sad, tearful manner "because I care!"
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is a judge for a singing contest who gives contestants long drawn out {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performance performances all before saying in a sad, tearful manner tone "because I care!"
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* '''Parodied''': Alice is judge for a singing contest who gives contestants {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performance all before saying in a sad, tearful manner "because I care!"???
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is judge for a singing contest who gives contestants {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performance all before saying in a sad, tearful manner "because I care!"
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* '''Straight''': Alice is often critical of other's flaws, but she does mean well.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of being an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but this doesn't make her a bad person.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of being an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but this doesn't make her a bad person.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is often critical of other's flaws, but she does mean well.
well in doing it.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point ofbeing coming across as an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but this doesn't make her a bad person.the fact is she isn't.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of
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* '''Parodied''': ???Alice is judge for a singing contest who gives contestants {{Reason You Suck Speech}}es on their poor performance all before saying in a sad, tearful manner "because I care!"
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* '''Enforced''': ???"Critics are seen as jerks. Let's create a critic who isn't as critical as they seem."
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* '''Invoked''': ???To make sure that his friends doesn't get angry at her, Alice gives a reason for her critical attitude.
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"So what if you want to see us succeed? That doesn't give you any reason to be mean about it."
* '''Discussed''':???"Oh, it's always have to be those people who act hard on us in order to better us."
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is critical, but isn't harsh or blunt about it.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is critical, points out the flaws of others, but isn't harsh or blunt about it.
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** Alice is just looking for an excuse to be mean.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character criticizes others, but only for making them better.
*'''Straight''': Alice is often critical of other's flaws, but she does mean well.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of being an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but this doesn't make her a bad person.
*'''Downplayed''': Alice is critical, but isn't harsh or blunt about it.
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*'''Inverted''': Alice praises others for the sake of bringing them down.
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*'''Averted''': Alice praises others for their pros and ignores the cons.
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*'''Straight''': Alice is often critical of other's flaws, but she does mean well.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice criticizes everyone to the point of being an unlikable {{Jerkass}}, but this doesn't make her a bad person.
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