History PlayingWith / BlueAndOrangeMorality

** There are practical reasons for morality, like social cohesion, group survival, promoting good health, sanctifying that which should not be trifled with, and building trust between individuals. Thus the vast majority of any society's rules and laws are based off of a universal moral code, the only real difference being application and context. There is no practical purpose behind blue and orange morality, thus any society that espouses it tends to not last very long.

** In the context of the work, morality is treated as objective or universal. Those espousing BlueAndOrangeMorality are simply trying to justify their [[WhatIsEvil own poor understanding]] [[EvilCannotComprehendGood of morality.]]

** There are practical reasons for morality, like social cohesion, group survival, promoting good health, sanctifying that which should not be trifled with, and building trust between individuals. Thus the vast majority of any society's rules and laws are based of a universal moral code, the only real difference being application and context. There is no practical purpose behind blue and orange morality, thus any society that espouses it tends to not last very long.

** In the context of the work, morality is treated as objective or universal. Those espousing BlueAndOrangeMorality are either severely confused or [[AlwaysChaoticEvil evil]].

** In the work, morality is treated as objective or universal. Those espousing BlueAndOrange morality are either severely confused or evil.

** Society divides people into "bacon" and "necktie" and judges them accordingly. "Bacon" people are those who enjoy their dinner, and by analogy those who [[TheHedonist prefer to enjoy life]] without having too many cares. "Necktie" people, on the other hand, dress for dinner, and by analogy are more concerned with appearance and status. Neither is considered objectively "good" or "bad" by society at large, but "bacon" people look down on "necktie" people as killjoys whilst "necktie" people equally look down on "bacon" people as licentious and unwilling to take life seriously. In both cases, this is considered SeriousBusiness.

** Society divides people into "bacon" and "necktie" and judges them accordingly. "Bacon" people are those who enjoy their dinner, and by analogy those who [[TheHedonist prefer to enjoy life]] without having too many cares. "Necktie" people, on the other hand, dress for dinner, and by analogy are more concerned with appearance and status. Neither is considered objectively "good" or "bad" by society at large, but "bacon" people look down on "necktie" people as killjoys whilst "necktie" people equally look down on "bacon" people as licentious and unwilling to take life seriously.

** Society divides people into "bacon" and "necktie" and judges them accordingly. "Bacon" people are those who enjoy their dinner, and by analogy those who [[TheHedonist prefer to enjoy life]] without having too many cares. "Necktie" people, on the other hand, dress for dinner, and by analogy are more concerned with appearance and status. Neither is considered objectively "good" or "bad" by society, but "bacon" people look down on "necktie" people as killjoys whilst "necktie" people equally look down on "bacon" people as licentious and unwilling to take life seriously.

* '''Straight''': [[InsaneTrollLogic Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest]], even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest because everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is considered to be very wrong. If you are a priest, everyone will respect you while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things may make you lose your title as priest, but you can easily have it reinstated by singing at night. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but only bullies kick each other. Insulting a stranger is fine and dandy, but only behind their back. If you insult someone to their face, you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. [[TrendAesop It is illegal to live behind the times]]. Divorce is very common, but voluntary termination of friendship is extremely rare; friendships nearly always end with either the death of one party or an accidental loss of touch. Betraying a friend is considered to be ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor worse than murder]]''. Eating in public is generally frowned on, with the obvious exception of restaurants. Tipping in a restaurant is regarded as an insult to the quality of the food. Skipping any meal is illegal, unless for medical reasons. Weight loss does not count as a "medical reason"; it must be a matter of life and death.

** Same as above, except if you lose your title as priest, you will be forced to sing at night. This will [[HereWeGoAgain reinstate you as a priest, even if you don't want to be one]].

** While the moral conclusions are deeply non-intuitive and potentially offputting given a complete understanding of the context make perfect sense within conventional framework of morality. It just appears that way due to being GuideDangIt equivalent.

** "[[BlackAndWhiteMorality Being good is good. Being bad is bad.]] [[SimpleMindedWisdom You don't need a thesis to figure it out]]."

** "[[BlackAndWhiteMorality Being good is good. Being bad is bad.]] You don't need a thesis to figure it out."

* '''Exploited''': The character transforms into something to avoid the moral implications involved with an action they are taking.

* '''Implied''': A character claims that they once visited an alien society with buzzard laws and values, but [[TakeOurWordForIt never describes them in detail.]]

* '''Subverted''': A character claims this, only to be shown that they have a poor understanding of morality instead.
* What seems like a nonsensical superstition is literally true and thus the behavior fits in with normal morality given the circumstances. Eating the dead causes reincarnation into the bloodline of who ever ate the most of them which makes eating someone after they die the right thing to do.

* '''Implied''': A character claims that they once visisted an alien society with buzzard laws and values, but [[TakeOurWordForIt never describes them in detail.]]

* '''Subverted''': A character claims this, only to be shown that he has a poor understanding of morality instead.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...But for a few issues they act less human.

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* '''Straight''': Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest, even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest because everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is considered to be very wrong. If you are a priest, everyone will respect you while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things may make you lose your title as priest, but you can easily have it reinstated by singing at night. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but only bullies kick each other. Insulting a stranger is fine and dandy, but only behind their back. If you insult someone to their face, you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. [[TrendAesop It is illegal to live behind the times]]. Divorce is very common, but voluntary termination of friendship is extremely rare; friendships nearly always end with either the death of one party or an accidental loss of touch. Betraying a friend is considered to be ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor worse than murder]]''. Eating in public is generally frowned on, with the obvious exception of restaurants. Tipping in a restaurant is regarded as an insult to the quality of the food. Skipping any meal is illegal, unless for medical reasons. Weight loss does not count as a "medical reason"; it must be a matter of life and death.

'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, or even downright silly to the intended audience.

'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, maybe even silly, to the intended audience.

'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of what is right and what is wrong seems totally alien, even silly, to the intended audience.

'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of good and evil are wildly different from the intended audience.

'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose standard for good and evil is wildly different from the intended audience of the fiction, often resulting in a plot which is difficult for the audience to understand.