History PlayingWith / BlueAndOrangeMorality

22nd Feb '16 3:31:41 PM TalonsofIceandFire
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, or even downright silly to the intended audience.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, alien or even downright silly to the intended audience.silly.
17th Jan '16 12:54:23 AM TalonsofIceandFire
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, maybe even silly, to the intended audience.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of right and wrong seems totally alien, maybe or even silly, downright silly to the intended audience.
17th Jan '16 12:53:54 AM TalonsofIceandFire
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13th Jan '16 2:39:57 PM TalonsofIceandFire
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of what is right and what is wrong seems totally alien, even silly, to the intended audience.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of what is right and what is wrong seems totally alien, maybe even silly, to the intended audience.
13th Jan '16 2:39:24 PM TalonsofIceandFire
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of good and evil are wildly different from the intended audience.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose ideas of good what is right and evil are wildly different from what is wrong seems totally alien, even silly, to the intended audience.
12th Jan '16 11:00:05 PM TalonsofIceandFire
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose standard for good and evil is wildly different from the intended audience of the fiction, often resulting in a plot which is difficult for the audience to understand.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose standard for ideas of good and evil is are wildly different from the intended audience of the fiction, often resulting in a plot which is difficult for the audience to understand.audience.
19th Nov '15 1:56:20 PM TrickyTroper
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* '''Straight''': Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest, even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest because everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is considered to be very wrong. If you are a priest, everyone will respect you while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things may make you lose your title as priest, but you can easily have it reinstated by singing at night. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but only bullies kick each other. Insulting a stranger is fine and dandy, but only to their face. If you insult someone behind their back, you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. [[TrendAesop It is illegal to live behind the times]]. Divorce is very common, but voluntary termination of friendship is extremely rare; friendships nearly always end with either the death of one party or an accidental loss of touch. Betraying a friend is considered to be ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor worse than murder]]''. Eating in public is generally frowned on, with the obvious exception of restaurants. Tipping in a restaurant is regarded as an insult to the quality of the food. Skipping any meal is illegal, unless for medical reasons. Weight loss does not count as a "medical reason"; it must be a matter of life and death.

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* '''Straight''': Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest, even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest because everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is considered to be very wrong. If you are a priest, everyone will respect you while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things may make you lose your title as priest, but you can easily have it reinstated by singing at night. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but only bullies kick each other. Insulting a stranger is fine and dandy, but only to behind their face. back. If you insult someone behind to their back, face, you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. [[TrendAesop It is illegal to live behind the times]]. Divorce is very common, but voluntary termination of friendship is extremely rare; friendships nearly always end with either the death of one party or an accidental loss of touch. Betraying a friend is considered to be ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor worse than murder]]''. Eating in public is generally frowned on, with the obvious exception of restaurants. Tipping in a restaurant is regarded as an insult to the quality of the food. Skipping any meal is illegal, unless for medical reasons. Weight loss does not count as a "medical reason"; it must be a matter of life and death.



** [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Moral principles are easily-distinguishable. Good and evil are easily recognized]].
** The alien is acting like a human, but passes.

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** [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Moral principles are easily-distinguishable. Good and evil are easily recognized]].
much more clear-cut]] than in RealLife.
** The alien Human morality is acting applied to a work set on another planet that has never had contact with Earth; that is to say, aliens act like a human, but passes.humans for no apparent reason.



** Any story that doesn't deal with non-human behavior.
** Aliens aren't made distinct by having alien morality but by having [[HumanityIsInfectious human morality]], or [[AliensAreBastards absolutely no sense of morality]].
* '''Enforced''':
** By having non-humans not act like humans, you can justify the actions they make more easily, allowing for more plot flexibility.

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** Any story that doesn't deal Only real human behavior (past or present) is dealt with non-human behavior.
in the work.
** Aliens aren't made distinct by having The alien morality but by having [[HumanityIsInfectious human morality]], or characters have [[AliensAreBastards absolutely no sense of morality]].
* '''Enforced''':
**
'''Enforced''': By having non-humans not act like humans, you can justify the actions they make more easily, allowing for more plot flexibility.flexibility.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Many humans would have objections with eating each other's flesh as a sign of friendship." "Maybe, but we're not humans. Duh!"
* '''Invoked''': A group of civilized people are shipwrecked on a desert island. They end up GoingNative in order to survive, and develop their own set of norms in the process.
* '''Exploited''': The character transforms into something to avoid the moral implications involved with an action they are taking.
* '''Defied''':
** Human morality [[HumanityIsInfectious rubs off on the aliens]].
** [[UnitedSpaceOfAmerica An intergalactic government]] passes a universal set of values, which conveniently happens to correspond with human morality.
* '''Discussed''': "What if their social norms are completely different from ours?" "That's ridiculous! They just live in the next town. It's not like they're from another planet or something."
* '''Conversed''': "Finally, a fictional society with its own culture. I can't tell you how tired I am of seeing aliens act like humans, even when they've never had contact with us."
* '''Deconstructed''': [[CultureClash The characters' cultural differences lead to a series of misunderstandings.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheFace There's a person in a group who navigates this sort of thing.]]
* '''Played For Laughs''':
** A human tries to raise an alien as human and teach it human values.
** The aliens are embarrassed about the implications of their value system.
* '''Played For Drama''': In a foreign land the characters are subject to laws they don't think are right.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''':



* '''Lampshaded''': "Many humans would have objections with eating each others flesh as a sign of friendship."
* '''Invoked''': The character transforms into something to avoid the moral implications involved with an action they are taking.
* '''Exploited''': The character who suggests the transformation, then takes advantage of the form's weakness. "Go fetch the bone doggy"
* '''Defied''': A human tries to raise an alien as human and teach it human values.
* '''Discussed''': A mission briefing on how to talk with the aliens on another planet.
* '''Conversed''': Humans come across an alien sitcom (''[[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} All My Circuits]]'').
* '''Deconstructed''': CultureClash.
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheFace There's a person in a group that navigates this sort of thing]]
* '''Played For Laughs''': The aliens are embarrassed about the implications of their value system.
* '''Played For Drama''': In a foreign land the characters are subject to laws they don't think are right.



If you don't return to BlueAndOrangeMorality, you're guilty of misappropriation of state funding! Which is punishable by eating cakes!

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If you don't return to BlueAndOrangeMorality, you're guilty of misappropriation of state funding! [[{{Unishment}} Which is punishable punishable]] [[IWasToldThereWouldBeCake by eating cakes!cakes]]!
13th Nov '15 8:23:57 AM TrickyTroper
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** Same as above, except if you lose your title as priest, and you will be punished by having to sing at night, thus [[HereWeGoAgain reinstating you as a priest, even if you don't want to be one]].

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** Same as above, except if you lose your title as priest, and you will be punished by having forced to sing at night, thus night. This will [[HereWeGoAgain reinstating reinstate you as a priest, even if you don't want to be one]].



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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???

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%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''':
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12th Nov '15 4:12:51 PM TrickyTroper
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* '''Downplayed''': It is normal to publicly hug and kiss one's friends, but holding hands with anyone other than a LoveInterest may result in accusations of cheating. Everyone goes to extreme lengths to return lost property; "finders keepers" is unheard of. Among loved ones, white lies are openly encouraged as a way to avoid conflicts. However, false advertising is considered to be the worst possible crime other than murder. Table manners essentially don't exist, but it is considered rude to watch someone else brushing their teeth. The fictional society's norms and values are otherwise realistic. In short, they are somewhat strange but comprehensible.

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* '''Downplayed''': It is normal to publicly hug and kiss one's friends, but holding hands with anyone other than a LoveInterest may result in accusations of cheating. Everyone goes to extreme lengths to return lost property; "finders keepers" is unheard of. Among loved ones, white lies are openly encouraged as a way to avoid conflicts. However, false advertising is considered to be the worst possible crime other than murder. Table manners essentially don't exist, but it is considered rude to watch someone else brushing their teeth. The In short, the fictional society's norms and values are otherwise realistic. In short, they are somewhat strange but mostly comprehensible.
12th Nov '15 11:26:53 AM TrickyTroper
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose standard for good and evil is wildly different from the intended audience of the fiction.
* '''Straight''': The characters do something that is difficult for the audience to understand.
* '''Exaggerated''': Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest, even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest as everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is just wrong, very wrong, but everyone will respect you, while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things will make you lose your title as priest, and you will be punished by having to sing at night, thus [[HereWeGoAgain reinstating you as a priest, even if you don't want to be one]].
* '''Downplayed''': Hugging your friends is awkward but kissing them is no big deal. Returning lost property is unheard of. Eating in public is frowned on. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but if you insult someone you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. And lying is considered to be the worst possible crime. In short, the norms and values are mostly comprehensible but a bit odd.

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'''Basic Trope''': Characters or societies whose standard for good and evil is wildly different from the intended audience of the fiction.
fiction, often resulting in a plot which is difficult for the audience to understand.
* '''Straight''': The characters do something that is difficult for the audience to understand.
* '''Exaggerated''':
Singing at night is an indication that you are a priest, even if you don't want to be one. Few want to be a priest as because everyone listens to you. Having others listen to you is just wrong, considered to be very wrong, but wrong. If you are a priest, everyone will respect you, you while also ridiculing you for doing wrong things. Doing wrong things will may make you lose your title as priest, but you can easily have it reinstated by singing at night. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but only bullies kick each other. Insulting a stranger is fine and dandy, but only to their face. If you insult someone behind their back, you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want to be friends with. [[TrendAesop It is illegal to live behind the times]]. Divorce is very common, but voluntary termination of friendship is extremely rare; friendships nearly always end with either the death of one party or an accidental loss of touch. Betraying a friend is considered to be ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor worse than murder]]''. Eating in public is generally frowned on, with the obvious exception of restaurants. Tipping in a restaurant is regarded as an insult to the quality of the food. Skipping any meal is illegal, unless for medical reasons. Weight loss does not count as a "medical reason"; it must be a matter of life and death.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Same as above, except if
you lose your title as priest, and you will be punished by having to sing at night, thus [[HereWeGoAgain reinstating you as a priest, even if you don't want to be one]].
** There are many fictional societies in the work, each with a different shade of morality.
** The characters are humans living on Earth in the present day, and yet [[AlternateUniverse their standards are the exact opposite of ours]].
* '''Downplayed''': Hugging your friends It is awkward normal to publicly hug and kiss one's friends, but kissing them is no big deal. Returning holding hands with anyone other than a LoveInterest may result in accusations of cheating. Everyone goes to extreme lengths to return lost property property; "finders keepers" is unheard of. Eating in public is frowned on. Publicly getting into fistfights is normal, but if you insult someone you're considered an utter jerk who nobody would ever want Among loved ones, white lies are openly encouraged as a way to be friends with. And lying avoid conflicts. However, false advertising is considered to be the worst possible crime. In short, the crime other than murder. Table manners essentially don't exist, but it is considered rude to watch someone else brushing their teeth. The fictional society's norms and values are mostly comprehensible otherwise realistic. In short, they are somewhat strange but a bit odd.comprehensible.
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