History PlayingWith / AssholeVictim

14th May '18 2:13:01 PM mister-bittersweet
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** Asshole or not, murder is still murder regardless of motive. Alice receives NoSympathy from anyone for killing Bob, even from people who hated him, and she is still punished with jail time for murdering him. The fact that she tries to justify murdering Bob by saying he had it coming makes her look like a sociopath, rather than win over Bob's detractors.
19th Apr '18 3:47:35 PM AHI-3000
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* '''Defied''': After a close shave, Alice [[JerkRealization realizes her wrongdoing]] and [[TookALevelInKindness takes steps to make herself a better person]].

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* '''Defied''': After a close shave, Alice [[JerkRealization [[HeelRealization realizes her wrongdoing]] and [[TookALevelInKindness takes steps to make herself a better person]].
7th Apr '18 9:35:28 AM AgentKyles
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** The murder victim was clearly just [[LeaveNoWitnesses in the wrong place]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch at the wrong time]] (for example, a security guard who walks in on a robbery, or Alice was just [[AMillionIsAStatistic Victim Number Seven Thousand]] of the [[ThemeSerialKiller Alice Slayer]]'s killing spree), and their character is never brought into it.

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** The murder victim was clearly just in the wrong place at the wrong time (for example, [[LeaveNoWitnesses in the wrong place]] a security guard]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch at the wrong time]] (for example, a security guard who walks in on a robbery, robbery]], or Alice was just [[AMillionIsAStatistic Victim Number Seven Thousand]] of the [[ThemeSerialKiller Alice Slayer]]'s Slayer's]] killing spree), and [[NothingPersonal their character is never brought into it.it]].
7th Apr '18 9:22:59 AM AgentKyles
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'''[[OldFashionedCopper DCI Charleton]]''': "Yeah, but she's an asshole. Frankly, the longer she stays gone the happier everyone around her will be."

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'''[[OldFashionedCopper DCI DCI]] [[JadeColoredGlasses Charleton]]''': "Yeah, but she's an asshole. Frankly, the longer she stays gone the happier everyone around her will be."
6th Apr '18 3:55:01 PM AHI-3000
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** Alice suffers some sort of FateWorseThanDeath. However, Alice was a CompleteMonster of a villain [[HateSink without any likable or redeeming qualities whatsoever]], so everyone is relieved and throws a party when it happens.

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** Alice suffers some sort of FateWorseThanDeath. However, Alice was a CompleteMonster of a villain [[HateSink without any likable or redeeming qualities whatsoever]], so [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing everyone is relieved and throws a party when it happens.happens]].
16th Mar '18 9:59:34 PM AHI-3000
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** But thatís just the story her HenpeckedHusband tells everyone.

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** But thatís just the story her HenpeckedHusband tells everyone. In truth, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk there was hardly anything redeemable about her]].
16th Mar '18 9:58:23 PM AHI-3000
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice got kidnapped? Well, with how she flaunted her money and rubbed everyone's faces in it, I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner."

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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
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"Alice got kidnapped? Well, with how she flaunted her money and rubbed everyone's faces in it, I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner."
16th Mar '18 9:57:55 PM AHI-3000
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** Regardless, she still died and was an asshole, [[KickTheSomOfABitch even if those two werenít related.]]

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** Regardless, she still died and was an asshole, [[KickTheSomOfABitch [[KickTheSonOfABitch even if those two werenít related.]]
17th Feb '18 11:30:41 PM MasterN
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** Alternately: We follow, in {{flashback}}, a private detective who is describing to the District Attorney the events leading up to "the murder of A. Boddy". Alice Boddy is shown to be a blackmailer and gigantic jerkwad... but it's her almost saintly brother, Alex Boddy, who gets murdered.

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** Alternately: We follow, in {{flashback}}, a private detective who is describing to the District Attorney the events leading up to "the murder of A. Boddy". Alice Boddy is shown to be a blackmailer and gigantic jerkwad... but it's her almost saintly brother, Alex Boddy, who gets murdered.



** But thatís just the story her HenpeckedHusband tells everyone.



** Alternately: (Continuing from the previous Alternately) ...And then it later turns out that Alex was the actual mastermind behind Alice's blackmail schemes, and forced Alice to cover for him with emotional manipulation.

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** Alternately: (Continuing from the previous Alternately) ...** ...And then it later turns out that Alex was the actual mastermind behind Alice's blackmail schemes, and forced Alice to cover for him with emotional manipulation.manipulation.
** Regardless, she still died and was an asshole, [[KickTheSomOfABitch even if those two werenít related.]]



** Alternatively, the police investigate the case... in order to congratulate Bob for kidnapping Alice and getting her out of everyone's hair.

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** Alternatively, the The police investigate the case... in order to congratulate Bob for kidnapping Alice and getting her out of everyone's hair.



** Bob is caught by the police for kidnapping Alice, but instead of going to jail he's rewarded with a 2-week tropical vacation. Everyone involved in the law refers to this as a "shortened sentence" due to "partial bail on the house" and an "inconvenient lack of vacancies anywhere else."
* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice looked like a gigantic jerkwad, but she donated a lot of time and money to a charity... which she was using to funnel money back into her own pockets, but only so she could fund the LittlestCancerPatient's surgery... and in the end, none of this is what got her killed; She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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** Bob is caught by the police for kidnapping Alice, but instead of going to jail he's rewarded with a 2-week tropical vacation. [[BlatantLies Everyone involved in the law refers to this as a "shortened sentence" due to "partial bail on the house" and an "inconvenient lack of vacancies anywhere else."
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice looked like a gigantic jerkwad, but she donated a lot of time and money to a charity... which she was using to funnel money back into her own pockets, but only so she could fund the LittlestCancerPatient's surgery... and so she could continue to extort her family for money. And in the end, none of this is what got her killed; She she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.time. But the killer expresses joy upon learning just who they killed.



** Alternatively, "Bob is an important fully developed character, we need to give him a plausible motive."

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** Alternatively, "Bob is an important fully developed character, we need to give him a plausible motive."



** {{Entitled Bastard}}

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** {{Entitled Bastard}}Bastard}}.



* '''Defied''': After a close shave, Alice [[JerkRealization realizes her wrongdoing]] and [[TookALevelInKindness takes steps to make]] [[MiseryBuildsCharacter herself a better person]].

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* '''Defied''': After a close shave, Alice [[JerkRealization realizes her wrongdoing]] and [[TookALevelInKindness takes steps to make]] [[MiseryBuildsCharacter make herself a better person]].



** The victim is revealed to have been a much worse person than people originally thought, having simply hidden their most heinous actions from the public; the disproportionate punishment seems more fitting upon knowing this / It's revealed that other methods to stop the victim's bad deeds were used but failed (as the victim would use [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney bribes]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]] or blackmail to get away and repeat the process); killing them was a last resort to end their actions.

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** The victim is revealed to have been a much worse person than people originally thought, having simply hidden their most heinous actions from the public; the disproportionate punishment seems more fitting upon knowing this / this.
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It's revealed that other methods to stop the victim's bad deeds were used but failed (as the victim would use [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney bribes]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]] or blackmail to get away and repeat the process); killing them was a last resort to end their actions.



Yeah, officer, I wanted AssholeVictim dead, but someone else beat me to it.

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Yeah, officer, I wanted that AssholeVictim dead, but someone else beat me to it.
17th Feb '18 9:09:13 AM AHI-3000
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** [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Alice]] was SecretlyDying anyway, and was only [[JerkassFacade acting as a jerk]] so no one would be sad when she died. She actually had a HiddenHeartOfGold.



** Alice was SecretlyDying anyway, and was only acting as a jerk so no one would be sad when she died. She actually had a HiddenHeartOfGold.
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