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15th Nov '16 1:41:50 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheManBehindTheMan to: Quite possibly ''almost every villain to exist'', with the certain exception of [[Pantheon/MainHouseOtherGods1 Nekron]], [[Pantheon/PlanetaryAndCelestial Amatsu-Mikaboshi]] and the Anti-Monitor (and the debatable exception of [[Pantheon/BeastOther Ungoliant]] and [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction the Lich]]))

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* TheManBehindTheMan to: Quite possibly ''almost every villain to exist'', with the certain exception of [[Pantheon/MainHouseOtherGods1 [[Pantheon/{{Undead}} Nekron]], [[Pantheon/PlanetaryAndCelestial Amatsu-Mikaboshi]] and the Anti-Monitor (and the debatable exception of [[Pantheon/BeastOther [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} Ungoliant]] and [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} the Lich]]))Lich]])



* Enemies: Though he has '''many''' enemies, Melkor considers the subjugation and/or annihilation of [[Pantheon/{{Angels}} Manwe Ulimo]] (his brother), [[Pantheon/OthernessAbominations Ungoliant]] (his former ally), Cosmos, YHVH, Lucifer, [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction Nekron]] and [[Pantheon/PersonalityMisc Philemon]] to take precedence. On a more personal [[EvilIsPetty and petty]] note, he considers [[Pantheon/{{Dragons}} Io]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Iroque]], [[Pantheon/{{Nature}} Amaterasu]], [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Goku]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} Superman]] and every creator god to be on top of his hit list.

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* Enemies: Though he has '''many''' enemies, Melkor considers the subjugation and/or annihilation of [[Pantheon/{{Angels}} Manwe Ulimo]] (his brother), [[Pantheon/OthernessAbominations [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} Ungoliant]] (his former ally), Cosmos, YHVH, Lucifer, [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction [[Pantheon/{{Undead}} Nekron]] and [[Pantheon/PersonalityMisc Philemon]] to take precedence. On a more personal [[EvilIsPetty and petty]] note, he considers [[Pantheon/{{Dragons}} Io]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Iroque]], [[Pantheon/{{Nature}} Amaterasu]], [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Goku]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} Superman]] and every creator god to be on top of his hit list.



** It's worth noting that while Melkor is responsible for evil in creation, he is ''not'' responsible for evil outside or preceding it. [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction Nekron]] [[NoSell is unaffected by him]], having been created from [[PowerOfTheVoid the darkness preceding light]], while [[Pantheon/PlanetaryAndCelestial Amatsu-Mikaboshi]] existed long before the multiverse came into being, as does [[Pantheon/PhysicalAppearance Orgalorg]]. It's debated if [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction the Lich]] was one of the few evil beings preceding Melkor, but he doesn't think much of them.
*** Depending on who you ask, [[Pantheon/OthernessAbominations Ungoliant]] was either corrupted by him or actually an independent entity outside Illuvatar's dynamic. Though if Melkor ever had influence over her, it's gone.

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** It's worth noting that while Melkor is responsible for evil in creation, he is ''not'' responsible for evil outside or preceding it. [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction [[Pantheon/{{Undead}} Nekron]] [[NoSell is unaffected by him]], having been created from [[PowerOfTheVoid the darkness preceding light]], while [[Pantheon/PlanetaryAndCelestial Amatsu-Mikaboshi]] existed long before the multiverse came into being, as does [[Pantheon/PhysicalAppearance Orgalorg]]. It's debated if [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} the Lich]] was one of the few evil beings preceding Melkor, but he doesn't think much of them.
*** Depending on who you ask, [[Pantheon/OthernessAbominations [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} Ungoliant]] was either corrupted by him or actually an independent entity outside Illuvatar's dynamic. Though if Melkor ever had influence over her, it's gone.



** Melkor's ultimate ambition, to spite the cosmos itself, [[OmnicidalManiac is to destroy all reality]] for ''daring'' [[EvilIsPetty to not be something HE made]]. While this does make him inclined towards the Grand United Alliance of Destruction, the Dark Lord has refused any alliance with them; he and he alone should have the right to smash the multiverse into dust, not [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction Nekron]]. As such, he considers [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives the Anti-Monitor]] as a rival. The Anti-Monitor doesn't think much of Melkor however, considering him to be "[[PsychopathicManchild an immature child mad that he didn't get the toys he wanted]]". To keep what little loyalty the villains have to him, Melkor has kept this a secret.

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** Melkor's ultimate ambition, to spite the cosmos itself, [[OmnicidalManiac is to destroy all reality]] for ''daring'' [[EvilIsPetty to not be something HE made]]. While this does make him inclined towards the Grand United Alliance of Destruction, the Dark Lord has refused any alliance with them; he and he alone should have the right to smash the multiverse into dust, not [[Pantheon/RuinAndDestruction [[Pantheon/{{Undead}} Nekron]]. As such, he considers [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives the Anti-Monitor]] as a rival. The Anti-Monitor doesn't think much of Melkor however, considering him to be "[[PsychopathicManchild an immature child mad that he didn't get the toys he wanted]]". To keep what little loyalty the villains have to him, Melkor has kept this a secret.
12th Nov '16 4:13:20 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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** Spends most of his time dwelling in the Council of Shadows, which many believe he funded. [[EpilepticTrees Due to mass speculation involving his group]], he has issued a "cease and desist" order from the House of Wild Mass Guessing, for continuing to pester him.

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** * Spends most of his time dwelling in the Council of Shadows, which many believe he funded. [[EpilepticTrees Due to mass speculation involving his group]], he has issued a "cease and desist" order from the House of Wild Mass Guessing, for continuing to pester him.



** [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} Lysandre]] is intrigued by the idea of Instrumentality, seeing it as a good way to solve the Malthusian Dilemna.
** Lorenz detests "parasitic gods" who perpetuate human misery. Part of why he wants to [[AssimilationPlot rob mankind of his identity]] is so that the likes of [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} the Chaos Gods]] or [[Pantheon/{{MainHouse}} YHVH/Lucifer]] can never inflict suffering towards them.
*** [[BerserkButton NEVER compare Keel Lorenz to]] [[Pantheon/{{Faith}} YHVH.]] SEELE wishes to [[EvilutionaryBiologist reach humanity's next step in evolution]], not [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill turn them into the eternal slaves]] [[GodIsEvil of a deific monster.]]

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** * [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} Lysandre]] is intrigued by the idea of Instrumentality, seeing it as a good way to solve the Malthusian Dilemna.
** * Lorenz detests "parasitic gods" who perpetuate human misery. Part of why he wants to [[AssimilationPlot rob mankind of his identity]] is so that the likes of [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} the Chaos Gods]] or [[Pantheon/{{MainHouse}} YHVH/Lucifer]] can never inflict suffering towards them.
*** * [[BerserkButton NEVER compare Keel Lorenz to]] [[Pantheon/{{Faith}} YHVH.]] SEELE wishes to [[EvilutionaryBiologist reach humanity's next step in evolution]], not [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill turn them into the eternal slaves]] [[GodIsEvil of a deific monster.]]



** [[Pantheon/{{Philosophy}} The Emperor of Mankind]] has it out for SEELE, as their [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum "assimilation tantrum"]] as a complete dead end for human progress. Witnessing the world of Warhammer 40000, Keel was ever more convinced.

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** * [[Pantheon/{{Philosophy}} The Emperor of Mankind]] has it out for SEELE, as their [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum "assimilation tantrum"]] as a complete dead end for human progress. Witnessing the world of Warhammer 40000, Keel was ever more convinced.



*** That being said, SEELE and the Imperium will have an EnemyMine situation when fighting [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} the Chaos Gods]] or [[Pantheon/{{MainHouse}} YHVH/Lucifer]].

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*** ** That being said, SEELE and the Imperium will have an EnemyMine situation when fighting [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} the Chaos Gods]] or [[Pantheon/{{MainHouse}} YHVH/Lucifer]].



** [[DependingOnTheWriter May be]] the WanderingJew himself. Keel at least likes to pretend he's the WanderingJew, in what's thought to partly be an attempt to remove AZ from the pantheon. So far, it hasn't gotten anywhere.

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** * [[DependingOnTheWriter May be]] the WanderingJew himself. Keel at least likes to pretend he's the WanderingJew, in what's thought to partly be an attempt to remove AZ from the pantheon. So far, it hasn't gotten anywhere.
5th Nov '16 7:04:19 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Pantheon/PhilosophyOverdeitiesAndGreaterGods
* Pantheon/PhilosophyIntermediateGods
* Pantheon/PhilosophyLesserGods
* Pantheon/PhilosophyDemigodsAndQuasideities
5th Nov '16 6:58:51 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Pantheon/{{Goals}}
* Pantheon/OutlooksOnLife
* Pantheon/{{Symbolism}}
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* Pantheon/MiscellaneousPhilosophies
5th Nov '16 3:46:18 AM Tron80
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* Wonder Woman has a good relationship with Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} from the [[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances House of Heroes]]. Supergirl respects Wonder Woman for being the first female super-hero, and Diana values Kara because she is one of the strongest women in the planet and uses her powers for good (even if Diana thinks the young Kryptonian needs guidance, counsel and warrior training). Both women have enjoyed many adventures together and fought hand-in-hand. Supergirl has joined the Amazons sometimes, and in the Pre-Crisis universe, [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1972}} Queen Hyppolita once said]] "[She]'ll always think of [Kara] as [her] '''third''' Amazon daughter". [[ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl In a darker universe where Superman died]], Wonder Woman became Kara's surrogate mother. It helps that Kara -and Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}- and Diana's little sister Donna Troy are Comicbook/SuperBestFriendsForever, and Kara and Cassie Sandsmark have been very, ''[[HoYay very]]'' close friends.

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* Wonder Woman has a good relationship with Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} from the [[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances House of Heroes]]. Supergirl respects Wonder Woman for being the first female super-hero, and Diana values Kara because she is one of the strongest women in the planet and uses her powers for good (even if Diana thinks the young Kryptonian needs guidance, counsel and warrior training). Both women have enjoyed many adventures together and fought hand-in-hand. Supergirl has joined the Amazons sometimes, and in the Pre-Crisis universe, [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1972}} Queen Hyppolita once said]] "[She]'ll always think of [Kara] as [her] '''third''' Amazon daughter". [[ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl In a darker universe where Superman died]], Wonder Woman became Kara's surrogate mother. It helps that Kara -and Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}- and Diana's little sister Donna Troy are Comicbook/SuperBestFriendsForever, WesternAnimation/SuperBestFriendsForever, and Kara and Cassie Sandsmark have been very, ''[[HoYay very]]'' close friends.
5th Nov '16 3:41:39 AM Tron80
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** Non-Ascended: Both Comicbook/{{Wonder Girl}}s: her little sister Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark.



** Non-Ascended: Circe (the DC Universe version), both Comicbook/{{Wonder Girl}}s -her little sister Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark-.

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** Non-Ascended: Circe (the DC Universe version), both Comicbook/{{Wonder Girl}}s -her little sister Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark-.version).
5th Nov '16 3:38:18 AM Tron80
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** The Franchise/DCUniverse: '''[[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman]]''', [[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances Kara Zor-El/Supergirl]], [[Pantheon/{{Trickery}} Bruce Wayne/Batman]], [[Pantheon/TravelIntermediateGods Barry Allen/The Flash]], [[Pantheon/HeroicActions Hal Jordan/Green Lantern]], [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} Rachel Roth/Raven]], [[Pantheon/FantasticRaces Arthur Curry/Aquaman]], [[Pantheon/EarthAndMetal John Henry Irons/Steel]], [[Pantheon/ElementalFive Ronnie Raymond and Jason Rusch/Firestorm]], [[Pantheon/RangedWeapons Oliver Queen/Green Arrow]], [[Pantheon/BluntWeapons Shiera Hall/Hawkgirl]], [[Pantheon/{{Shape}} Billy Batson/Shazam]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Kara Zor-L of Earth Two/Power Girl]], [[Pantheon/{{Lust}} Dick Grayson]]/[[Pantheon/HeroicRoles Nightwing, Tim Drake/Red Robin]], [[Pantheon/CyberneticsAndEnhancements Victor Stone/Cyborg]], [[Pantheon/MagicArchetypes Zatanna Zatara]], [[Pantheon/ProphecyIntermediateGods Nimue Inwudu/Madame Xanadu]]

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** The Franchise/DCUniverse: '''[[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman]]''', [[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances '''[[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances Kara Zor-El/Supergirl]], Zor-El/Supergirl]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Trickery}} Bruce Wayne/Batman]], [[Pantheon/TravelIntermediateGods Barry Allen/The Flash]], [[Pantheon/HeroicActions Hal Jordan/Green Lantern]], [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} Rachel Roth/Raven]], [[Pantheon/FantasticRaces Arthur Curry/Aquaman]], [[Pantheon/EarthAndMetal John Henry Irons/Steel]], [[Pantheon/ElementalFive Ronnie Raymond and Jason Rusch/Firestorm]], [[Pantheon/RangedWeapons Oliver Queen/Green Arrow]], [[Pantheon/BluntWeapons Shiera Hall/Hawkgirl]], [[Pantheon/{{Shape}} Billy Batson/Shazam]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Kara Zor-L of Earth Two/Power Girl]], [[Pantheon/{{Lust}} Dick Grayson]]/[[Pantheon/HeroicRoles Nightwing, Tim Drake/Red Robin]], [[Pantheon/CyberneticsAndEnhancements Victor Stone/Cyborg]], [[Pantheon/MagicArchetypes Zatanna Zatara]], [[Pantheon/ProphecyIntermediateGods Nimue Inwudu/Madame Xanadu]]



** Non-Ascended: Circe (the DC Universe version).

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** Non-Ascended: Circe (the DC Universe version).version), both Comicbook/{{Wonder Girl}}s -her little sister Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark-.



* Has a RecklessSidekick [[spoiler:and niece as of The New 52]] in Cassandra Sandsmark, ComicBook/WonderGirl. Cassie is yet to be deitified at her petition.

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* Has a RecklessSidekick [[spoiler:and niece as of The New 52]] in Cassandra Sandsmark, ComicBook/WonderGirl. Cassie is yet to be deitified deified at her petition.petition.
* Wonder Woman has a good relationship with Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} from the [[Pantheon/HeroicAppearances House of Heroes]]. Supergirl respects Wonder Woman for being the first female super-hero, and Diana values Kara because she is one of the strongest women in the planet and uses her powers for good (even if Diana thinks the young Kryptonian needs guidance, counsel and warrior training). Both women have enjoyed many adventures together and fought hand-in-hand. Supergirl has joined the Amazons sometimes, and in the Pre-Crisis universe, [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1972}} Queen Hyppolita once said]] "[She]'ll always think of [Kara] as [her] '''third''' Amazon daughter". [[ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl In a darker universe where Superman died]], Wonder Woman became Kara's surrogate mother. It helps that Kara -and Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}- and Diana's little sister Donna Troy are Comicbook/SuperBestFriendsForever, and Kara and Cassie Sandsmark have been very, ''[[HoYay very]]'' close friends.
3rd Nov '16 11:24:10 AM fasoman1996
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3rd Nov '16 11:04:27 AM MasterHero
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