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** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their early '60s stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevalent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.

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** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their early '60s 1960s stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevalent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.
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** 1950s Rock'n'roll sounds quite weird today, as it's at the same time too fast and upbeat to be soft rock (or blues), but too clean and subdued to be hard rock. Also, it may be difficult to realize what was so controversial about it.

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** 1950s Rock'n'roll Rock 'n' roll sounds quite weird today, today (try headbanging to it), as it's at the same time too fast and upbeat to be soft rock (or blues), but too clean and subdued to be hard rock. Also, it may be difficult to realize what was so controversial about it.
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** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their early '60s stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevelent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.

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** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their early '60s stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevelent, prevalent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.
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** The Beatles do, for the most part, ''avert'' this trope - while people may not always recognize today how groundbreaking they are, they continue to be one of the most popular and beloved bands of all time; their albums continue to sell 50+ years after they were originally released. Every generation of teenagers seems to re-discover The Beatles (the ''1'' GreatestHitsAlbum, ''Film/AcrossTheUniverse2007'', the Beatles edition of ''VideoGame/RockBand'', etc.). And it's rare to find anyone who actually denies The Beatles' influence -- a lot of the HypeBacklash will still admit The Beatles were innovative, just that they weren't the only ones pioneering those things and don't like how they're often discussed as though they were.

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** The Beatles do, for the most part, ''avert'' this trope - while people may not always recognize today how groundbreaking they are, were, they continue to be one of the most popular and beloved bands of all time; their albums continue to sell 50+ years after they were originally released. Every generation of teenagers seems to re-discover The Beatles (the ''1'' GreatestHitsAlbum, ''Film/AcrossTheUniverse2007'', the Beatles edition of ''VideoGame/RockBand'', etc.). And it's rare to find anyone who actually denies The Beatles' influence -- a lot of the HypeBacklash will still admit The Beatles were innovative, just that they weren't the only ones pioneering those things and don't like how they're often discussed as though they were.



** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their old stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevelent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.

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** Their earlier material especially falls into this trope. A modern listener may dismiss their old early '60s stuff as the same old jangle pop that was popular during the era, but for the time, the Beatles had a raw and heavy sound compared to bands like the Beach Boys, and the fact that they ran their guitars dry is a big part of this while the Beach Boys' music was drenched in reverberated guitars and other production flurishes. At a time when surf and Music/PhilSpector-produced pop music was prevelent, this sound was new and exciting. Even as their music got bigger production-wise as the era progressed, their more elaborate albums like ''Sgt. Pepper'' still sounded much heavier than other, equal-in-scope albums like ''Pet Sounds''.
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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing T-shirts of bands they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing T-shirts of bands they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make makes them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.
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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing T-shirts of bands they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing T-shirts of bands they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.
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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band T-shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band T-shirts of bands they don't even know or have never/barely listened to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.
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** Depending on how you see it, Nirvana might be an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]. It's amazing how many younger people you will see wandering around malls and other public environments wearing Nirvana t-shirts despite not being anywhere close to being born at the time HairMetal was considered the norm for hard rock, and thus being able to appreciate how much Nirvana (and other popular alternative bands at the time) managed to kill an entire genre of rock music that had long gone stale almost overnight.
*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to. Which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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** Depending on how you see it, Nirvana might be an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]. It's amazing how many younger people you will see wandering around malls and other public environments wearing Nirvana t-shirts T-shirts despite not being anywhere close to being born at the time HairMetal was considered the norm for hard rock, and thus being able to appreciate how much Nirvana (and other popular alternative bands at the time) managed to kill an entire genre of rock music that had long gone stale almost overnight.
*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids/people only wear Nirvana T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band shirts T-shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to. Which to, which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.



** The ubiquitous Ramones t-shirt on every wannabe "edgy" C-list celeb is a borderline example in its own right. Some Guardian music journalist claimed that "the kids" were turning to wearing previously shunned Nirvana/Grunge-era logos as a kind of backlash against '70s rock T-shirts.

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** The ubiquitous Ramones t-shirt T-shirt on every wannabe "edgy" C-list celeb is a borderline example in its own right. Some Guardian music journalist claimed that "the kids" were turning to wearing previously shunned Nirvana/Grunge-era logos as a kind of backlash against '70s rock T-shirts.
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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids only wear Nirvana shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to. Which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids kids/people only wear Nirvana shirts T-shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to. Which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.

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** If anything, Nirvana is an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]. It's amazing how many younger people you will see wandering around malls and other public environments wearing Nirvana t-shirts despite not being anywhere close to being born at the time HairMetal was considered the norm for hard rock, and thus being able to appreciate how much Nirvana (and other popular alternative bands at the time) managed to kill an entire genre of rock music that had long gone stale almost overnight.

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** If anything, Depending on how you see it, Nirvana is might be an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]. It's amazing how many younger people you will see wandering around malls and other public environments wearing Nirvana t-shirts despite not being anywhere close to being born at the time HairMetal was considered the norm for hard rock, and thus being able to appreciate how much Nirvana (and other popular alternative bands at the time) managed to kill an entire genre of rock music that had long gone stale almost overnight.overnight.
*** Heavily subverted by the fact that most of those kids only wear Nirvana shirts for weird, silly trends of wearing band shirts they don't even know or have never/barely listened to. Which would make them posers, especially in the eyes of actual fans. Even Kurt would be rolling in his grave knowing that his band is now nothing but a commercial merch for the corporate to exploit, which goes against his ethos of not selling out to the mainstream.
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** This trope turns up all over classical music. Even in the above paragraph it's taken for granted that the classical repertoire is a fixed thing, but there was a time when there wasn't a 'classical repertoire'. These days we assume that classical music is all symphonies and string quartets and piano sonatas but they haven't been there forever: for example, Music/JosephHaydn took a largely unpopular musical form called the ''sinfonia'' and turned it into the symphony as we know it. He ended up writing 104 of them, all of which are in the repertoire and some of which are amazingly inventive, entertaining, and moving. As if that weren't enough, he did the same thing to the string quartet. Before Haydn: scattered pieces of music written for ensembles of string players. After Haydn: every composer has to at least attempt a string quartet in order to get taken seriously. The freshness and inventiveness of Haydn's music is only obvious when you listen to what people were writing immediately before him.

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** This trope turns up all over classical music. Even in the above paragraph paragraph, it's taken for granted that the classical repertoire is a fixed thing, but there was a time when there wasn't a 'classical repertoire'. These days we assume that classical music is all symphonies and string quartets and piano sonatas but they haven't been there forever: for example, Music/JosephHaydn took a largely unpopular musical form called the ''sinfonia'' and turned it into the symphony as we know it. He ended up writing 104 of them, all of which are in the repertoire and some of which are amazingly inventive, entertaining, and moving. As if that weren't enough, he did the same thing to the string quartet. Before Haydn: scattered pieces of music written for ensembles of string players. After Haydn: every composer has to at least attempt a string quartet in order to get taken seriously. The freshness and inventiveness of Haydn's music is only obvious when you listen to what people were writing immediately before him.
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* RockNRoll: During the 1950s artists and bands like Music/BillHaleyAndHisComets, Music/ElvisPresley, Music/LittleRichard, and Music/ChuckBerry were considered dangerous music that would corrupt the youth. Today, when you listen to most of this 1950s rock 'n' roll stuff, it all sounds very innocent and sometimes not that much wilder than a regular jazz big band. Take for instance Bill Haley's music: you can hear friggin' trumpets playing!

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* RockNRoll: RockAndRoll: During the 1950s artists and bands like Music/BillHaleyAndHisComets, Music/ElvisPresley, Music/LittleRichard, and Music/ChuckBerry were considered dangerous music that would corrupt the youth. Today, when you listen to most of this 1950s rock 'n' roll stuff, it all sounds very innocent and sometimes not that much wilder than a regular jazz big band. Take for instance Bill Haley's music: you can hear friggin' trumpets playing!
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* Music/DrDre's "Nothin' But a 'G' Thang". At the time, a hip-hip video with low riders, backyard parties and lots of posing in front of the camera was something new and different. Needless to say, it was certainly influential.

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* Music/DrDre's "Nothin' But a 'G' Thang". At the time, a hip-hip hip-hop video with low riders, backyard parties and lots of posing in front of the camera was something new and different. Needless to say, it was certainly influential.
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* Stonebridge and MK are two producers who helped popularize house in the early 1990s, with their seminal remixes of Robin S and The Nightcrawlers respectively. The handbag organ sound was distinctly different from what house had been doing up until that point and helped cement it as one of the new styles of the 90's. By only a few years later, French House artists like Daft Punk did the same, immediately making handbag house sound trite and old hat.

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