History NotSoDifferent / Film

-->'''Stark:''' And Loki, he's a full-tilt diva, he wants flowers, he wants parades, he wants a monument built to the sky with his name plastered--\\

*** In a more positive note, when Maria Hill says that the Maximoffs are crazy for willingly taking part in von Strucker's experiments to gain superpowers and protect their country. Cap retorts that he did the same thing back in the forties.
** Explicitly [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' when Yondu Udonta confronts Rocket about his abrasive, antisocial tendencies and reveals that he too pushes away people he cares about due to his DarkAndTroubledPast. This has a [[HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming]] payoff when [[spoiler: Rocket calls Yondu's old teammates, who'd banished him from their midst, to his funeral and they all honor him for his HeroicSacrifice. Rocket remarks that they forgave him even after he everything he'd done and comes to the realization that his own [[TrueCompanions team]] similarly care about him despite his violent and abrasive attitude.]]
** Unusually, brought up by the hero to the villain in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. This isn't an attempt to bring about a HeelFaceTurn, just an acknowledgement by Thor that like him, [[spoiler:his sister]] Hela had been used by Odin, and then discarded when she became a liability. He sympathized with what she'd been through, but he was still looking to kill her because she was an insane mass murderer.

** Likewise, the {{Big Bad}}s of ''Film/GoldenEye'', ''Film/DrNo'', ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' and ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' try to invoke this on Bond one way or another, but 007 fires back with a ShutUpHannibal response, giving a KirkSummation on [[YoureInsane their insanity]].

--> '''Bruce Wayne''': The Daily Planet criticizing those who think they're above the law is a little hypocritical, wouldn't you say? Considering every time your hero saves a cat out of a tree, you write a puff piece editorial about an alien who, if he wanted to, could burn the whole place down. There wouldn't be a damn thing we can do to stop it.

*** On the other hand, Diana believes that humans in general are good and it's Ares who's corrupting them. When she meets him and he reveals just how little provocation they have needed to commit atrocities, she's faced with how, for all her idealism, she's not so different from [[KnightTemplar him]]: if she goes on thinking humans could not do such things if they are "good", she'll have to agree with him that they are "evil". And they both originally set out to destroy the evil that led to the war.

*** On the other hand, Diana believes that humans in general are good and it's Ares who's corrupting them. When she meets him and he reveals just how little provocation they have needed to commit atrocities, she's faced with how, for all her idealism, she's not so different from [[KnightTemplar him]]: if she goes on thinking humans could not do such things if they are "good", she'll have to agree with him that they are "evil". And they both set out to destroy the evil that led to the war.

*** On the other hand, Diana believes that humans in general are good and it's Ares who's corrupting them. When she meets him and he reveals just how little provocation they have needed to commit atrocities, she's faced with how, for all her idealism, she's not so different from him: if she goes on thinking humans could not do such things if they are "good", she'll have to agree with him that they are "evil". And they both set out to destroy the evil that led to the war.

*** On the other hand, Diana believes that humans in general are good and it's Ares who's corrupting them. When she meets him and he reveals just how little provocation they have needed to commit atrocities, she's faced with how, for all her idealism, she's not so different from him: if she goes on thinking humans could not do such things if they are "good", she'll have to agree with him that they are "evil".

** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Diana goes to the World War 1 believing the Germans are the enemy and that Ares is behind their aggression. The more she learns about the world, the more she realizes that all societies have their demons. Chief[[note]]Native American[[/note]] mentions how his people were killed and when Diana asks who killed them, he points to a sleeping Steve[[note]]White American[[/note]] and says it was his people.

* Film/DCExtendedUniverse

** Unusually, brought up by the hero to the villain in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. This isn't an attempt to bring about a HeelFaceTurn, just an acknowledgement by Thor that like him, [[spoiler:his sister] Hela had been used by Odin, and then discarded when she became a liability. He sympathized with what she'd been through, but he was still looking to kill her because she was an insane mass murderer.

** Likewise, the {{Big Bad}}s of ''Film/GoldenEye'', ''Film/DrNo'', ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' and ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' try to invoke this on Bond one way or another, but 007 fires back with a ShutUpHannibal response, giving a KirkSummation of [[YoureInsane their]].

** Not the last time Creator/AnthonyHopkins has compared himself to his antagonists; see the ''[[Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs Red Dragon]]'' example.

** Not the last time Creator/AnthonyHopkins has compared himself to his antagonists; see the ''[[TheSilenceOfTheLambs Red Dragon]]'' example.

* The protagonist of the first ''Film/MadMax'' has a minor HeroicBSOD over the thought that he might be sliding into this trope, and/or its close relative HeWhoFightsMonsters. Then [[spoiler: said monsters murder his wife and child]], after which he's past caring about either trope.

** ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'': Scaramanga does this with Film/JamesBond. Bond tells him that he is full of a certain bodily discharge.

* Luke Skywalker of ''Franchise/StarWars'' gets his NotSoDifferent moment when he cuts off his father's artificial hand. Luke sees that he has just repaid Vader's violence in kind, but also sees his own prosthetic hand as symbolizing the possibility that he's becoming like his father. This was {{foreshadow|ing}}ed earlier in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when Yoda sends Luke into a cave to be attacked by a masked warrior brandishing a lightsaber, looking much like Darth Vader. Luke quickly defeats the warrior, decapitating it. The warrior's mask falls off, and its face is exactly like Luke's. Yoda pointed out before Luke went in that the cave only contains what you take into it (i.e. it shows you yourself, and your weaknesses) in fact telling Luke he won't need his weapons. Luke completely ignored him, leading to that sequence. It's also symbolized by the fact that while in ''Film/ANewHope'' he wore an all-white farmer's outfit and in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' he wore an Alliance fighter pilot's uniform (either the orange pilot suit or the khaki jumpsuit), in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' he wears a solid black jumpsuit and cloak, much like how Vader always wears black armor and cape. Additionally, Luke's actions when he enters Jabba's palace earlier in the film ([[PsychicStrangle Force Choking]] the guards at the gate, though he stops short of killing them, and using the JediMindTrick to completely dominate Bib Fortuna's mind rather than just implanting a single suggestion) imply that he's skirting dangerously close to TheDarkSide.

** ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'': After [[spoiler: Frigga's death]], Odin becomes determined to destroy the Dark Elves, no matter how many Asgardians have to be sacrificed, making him no better than [[BigBad Malekith]] and his WeHaveReserves mentality, something Thor is quick to call him out on. And as a bonus, the rush to throw one's self headlong into battle, plus absolute confidence (however misplaced) that they ''will'' win no matter what, shows exactly how NotSoDifferent father and son..

* Luke Skywalker of ''Franchise/StarWars'' gets his NotSoDifferent moment when he cuts off his father's artificial hand. Luke sees that he has just repaid Vader's violence in kind, but also sees his own prosthetic hand as symbolizing the possibility that he's becoming like his father. This was {{foreshadow|ing}}ed earlier in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when Yoda sends Luke into a cave to be attacked by a masked warrior brandishing a lightsaber, looking much like Darth Vader. Luke quickly defeats the warrior, decapitating it. The warrior's mask falls off, and its face is exactly like Luke's. Yoda pointed out before Luke went in that the cave only contains what you take into it (i.e. it shows you yourself, and your weaknesses) in fact telling Luke he won't need his weapons. Luke completely ignored him, leading to that sequence. It's also symbolized by the fact that while in ''Film//ANewHope'' he wore an all-white farmer's outfit and in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' he wore an Alliance fighter pilot's uniform (either the orange pilot suit or the khaki jumpsuit), in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' he wears a solid black jumpsuit and cloak, much like how Vader always wears black armor and cape. Additionally, Luke's actions when he enters Jabba's palace earlier in the film ([[PsychicStrangle Force Choking]] the guards at the gate, though he stops short of killing them, and using the JediMindTrick to completely dominate Bib Fortuna's mind rather than just implanting a single suggestion) imply that he's skirting dangerously close to TheDarkSide.
* Occurs twice in the ''Film/AustinPowers'' trilogy, between Doctor Evil and Austin (who, amusingly enough, are both played by Mike Myers); first in the first film near the end, and later in the third film:

* ''Film/XMen'':

* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' shows similarities between Tony Stark and Loki. Both are clever but have little idea how to fight beyond AttackAttackAttack. Both are narcissistic, {{Deadpan Snarker}}s, prone to self-destructive behavior and bitterly jealous of the [[Film/{{Thor}} blond]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger nobler]] teammate who [[WellDoneSonGuy their father liked better]]. The only real difference is that Tony learned the hard way to care for and rely upon others, while Loki did not. Tony himself says it best. [[spoiler:(A dual realization: That he was this trope to Loki and that Loki will use his Stark tower to summon the Chitauri.)]]
-->'''Stark:''' And Loki, he's a full-tilt diva, he wants flowers, he wants parades, he wants a monument built to the sky with his name plastered--\\
(''{{beat}}'')\\
'''Stark:''' [[ExplainExplainOhCrap Son of a bitch.]]

* The first appearance of the three-headed alien dragon King Ghidorah was in a 1964 flick called ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster''. In one scene in the movie, Mothra starts pleading with Godzilla and Rodan (who seem more occupied with fighting each other to be concerned about Ghidorah) to help her fight the larger threat, while Mothra's tiny handmaidens translate the conversation to the humans viewing. And it would almost seem funny if not for the crisis. Both Godzilla and Rodan blame each other for starting the fight and neither is willing to consider an alliance until the other apologizes. Eventually, one onlooker comments that "These monsters are as bad as humans."

* This exchange in ''TheGodfather'':

* For much of ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'' humans are shown caring about their offspring, Joe and Sandra for Ford, Ford and Al for Sam, Akio's parents for him and Ford being his guardian. Then the MUTO show complete alarm and terror when there is an explosion where their nest is. The sounds of anguish made by the mother border on a TearJerker.
* ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'': After [[spoiler: Frigga's death]], Odin becomes determined to destroy the Dark Elves, no matter how many Asgardians have to be sacrificed, making him no better than [[BigBad Malekith]] and his WeHaveReserves mentality, something Thor is quick to call him out on. And as a bonus, the rush to throw one's self headlong into battle, plus absolute confidence (however misplaced) that they ''will'' win no matter what, shows exactly how NotSoDifferent father and son..

* The villain in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' claims that HYDRA is this to S.H.I.E.L.D., even insisting that he was initially convinced to join due to Nick Fury's actions in resolving a hostage crisis. The argument has a little bit more weight than normal, since [[spoiler:HYDRA infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very beginning and a large percentage of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s staff are actually HYDRA moles; the infiltration is heavy enough that many people in-universe believe that there literally is no difference the two. Their evil plan in the movie was even Fury's idea]].

* ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'':
** One of those rare occasions when a villain has it pointed out ''to'' them. Ultron is... [[BerserkButton rather adamant]] on how he's nothing like Tony, and yet he's a snarky, drama queen narcissist with a shaky moral compass and a penchant for classic mad scientist cliches who has notable faculty with machines. Oh, and DaddyIssues. Lots and lots of daddy issues.
--->'''Wanda:''' Ultron can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it. Where do you think he gets that?
** In a more positive note, when Maria Hill says that the Maximoffs are crazy for willingly taking part in von Strucker's experiments to gain superpowers and protect their country. Cap retorts that he did the same thing back in the forties.

* In ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark]] confronts [[Comicbook/{{Batman}} Bruce]], having just learned [[SecretIdentity he's Batman]], and, under the guise of an interview, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech condemns Batman's violent vigilantism and that "he believes he's above the law"]]. Bruce [[DeadpanSnarker snarks]] back the similarity of how he sees Superman.

** The second not so different moment is at the end of their fight, where Clark, about to be killed by Batman, begs Batman to save [[spoiler: Martha Kent, who's being held hostage by Comicbook/LexLuthor. While Clark calling out to save "Martha", makes Bruce [[HeroicBSOD stop]], since it's the same name as ''his'' mother, the not so different moment comes when Comicbook/LoisLane reveals that Clark's talking about his own mother]]. This strikes a chord with Bruce, [[spoiler: still badly affected by the [[DeathByOriginStory death of Martha Wayne]]]], allowing him to empathise with Clark, snapping the Dark Knight out of his UnstoppableRage and [[HeelRealization realise]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone just how far he's]] [[FallenHero fallen]].
* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Diana goes to the World War 1 believing the Germans are the enemy and that Ares is behind their aggression. The more she learns about the world, the more she realizes that all societies have their demons. Chief[[note]]Native American[[/note]] mentions how his people were killed and when Diana asks who killed them, he points to a sleeping Steve[[note]]White American[[/note]] and says it was his people.
* ''{{Film/Amistad}}'':

* Explicitly [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' when Yondu Udonta confronts Rocket about his abrasive, antisocial tendencies and reveals that he too pushes away people he cares about due to his DarkAndTroubledPast. This has a [[HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming]] payoff when [[spoiler: Rocket calls Yondu's old teammates, who'd banished him from their midst, to his funeral and they all honor him for his HeroicSacrifice. Rocket remarks that they forgave him even after he everything he'd done and comes to the realization that his own [[TrueCompanions team]] similarly care about him despite his violent and abrasive attitude.]]

* Luke Skywalker of ''Franchise/StarWars'' gets his NotSoDifferent moment when he cuts off his father's artificial hand. Luke sees that he has just repaid Vader's violence in kind, but also sees his own prosthetic hand as symbolizing the possibility that he's becoming like his father. This was {{foreshadow|ing}}ed earlier in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when Yoda sends Luke into a cave to be attacked by a masked warrior brandishing a lightsaber, looking much like Darth Vader. Luke quickly defeats the warrior, decapitating it. The warrior's mask falls off, and its face is exactly like Luke's. Yoda pointed out before Luke went in that the cave only contains what you take into it (i.e. it shows you yourself, and your weaknesses) in fact telling Luke he won't need his weapons. Luke completely ignored him, leading to that sequence.

** Not the last time AnthonyHopkins has compared himself to his antagonists; see the ''[[TheSilenceOfTheLambs Red Dragon]]'' example.

* The villain in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' claims that HYDRA is this to S.H.I.E.L.D., even insisting that he was initially convinced to join due to Nick Fury's actions in resolving a hostage crisis. The argument has a little bit more weight than normal, since [[spoiler:HYDRA infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very beginning and a large percentage of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s staff are actually HYDRA moles; the infiltration is heavy that many people in-universe believe that there literally is no difference the two. Their evil plan in the movie was even Fury's idea]].

* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' shows similarities between Tony Stark and Loki. Both are clever but have little idea how to fight beyond AttackAttackAttack. Both are narcissistic, {{Deadpan Snarker}}s, prone to self-destructive behavior and bitterly jealous of the [[Film/TheMightyThor blond]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger nobler]] teammate who [[WellDoneSonGuy their father liked better]]. The only real difference is that Tony learned the hard way to care for and rely upon others, while Loki did not. Tony himself says it best. [[spoiler:(A dual realization: That he was this trope to Loki and that Loki will use his Stark tower to summon the Chitauri.)]]