History NightmareFuel / VForVendetta

* In the comic, the fact that V and Evey only really achieve the collapse of the government. The final pages show uncontrolled riots, looting and degradation. At very least Norsefire kept order after the war, now Britain shall not even have that.

* Once again, in the film Britain under Norsefire isn't shown so much as of a [[CrapsackWorld post-nuclear hellhole]] ruled by a WellIntentionedExtremist (as in the visual novel), rather [[CrapsaccharineWorld seemingly a prosperous and vibrant place]] with really nasty things [[SecretPolice swept under the rug]] which for some is even more frightening, as it's '''closer to reality'''.

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* So, where to begin? The possible ([[spoiler:but luckily averted]]) fate of Evey at the beginning of the novel/movie. Particularly in the film, where the Fingermen are going to rape [[DisproportionateRetribution (and allegedly murder)]] her for just literally being in the wrong place [[FascistsBedTime at the wrong time]].
* The fate of all those captured by [[StateSec the Fingermen]]. After they are captured... they just disappear. No one (not even their closest relatives) knows what happens to them after they've been taken -- apart from the Fingermen themselves. Even the ordinary police don't know it.

* The Norsefire party - the idea that even after World War 2, a party which are [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis in all but name and symbolism]] rose to power in a country that ''"went to war to stop the Nazi"''.

* The... "[[MadDoctor experiments]]" Dr Surridge performs on the prisoners involves injecting them with mutagenic chemicals, causing them to either [[BodyHorror sprout extra appendages]] or go irrecoverably insane. Like V.

** Increasingly so on revealing that [[spoiler:it was the government who created and spread that infection and used it against their own people. Damn, [[PlayingWithSyringes even the way]] [[TestedOnHumans they tested it]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is downright disgusting]].]] Especially on learning that their vicious experiments aren't [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 (at least weren't)]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele that far]] from TruthInTelevision...
* The ending sequence, with the army charging at the protestors marching up towards them. Luckily [[OptOut the massacre was averted]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure at the last moment]], but still this minute was quite... intense, right?
* Once again, in the film Britain under Norsefire isn't shown so much as of a [[CrapsackWorld post-nuclear hellhole]] ruled by a WellIntentionedExtremist (as in the visual novel), rather [[CrapsaccharineWorld seemingly a prosperous and vibrant place]] with really nasty things [[SecretPolice swept under the rug]]... which for some is even more frightening, as it's '''closer to reality'''.

** This is of course V's point with his actions, his strive to create the land of "Do-As-You-Please", which is not necessarily an improvement, and might very well be much worse, but allows for the creation of something better, which the stagnant and opressive Norsefire regime wouldn't. Or it might not, [[FullCircleRevolution and the whole cycle starts all over again]]. The choice is yours.

* In the comic, the fact that V and Evey only really achieve the collapse of the government. The final pages show uncontrolled riots, looting and degradation. At least the Norsefire fellows kept order after the war, now Britain shall not have even this. This is of course V's point with his actions, his strive to create the land of "Do-As-You-Please", which is not necessarily an improvement, and might very well be much worse, but allows for the creation of something better, which the stagnant and opressive Norsefire regime wouldn't. Or it might not, [[FullCircleRevolution and the whole cycle starts all over again]]. The choice is yours.

* In the comic, the fact that V and Evey only really achieve the collapse of the government. The final pages show uncontrolled riots, looting and degradation. At least the Norsefire fellows kept order after the war, now Britain shall not have even this. This is of course V's point with his actions, his strive to create the land of "Do-As-You-Please", which is not necessarily an improvement, and might very well be much worse, but allows for the creation of something better, which the stagnant and opressive Norsefire regime wouldn't. Or it might not, and the whole cycle starts all over again. The choice is yours.

* In the comic, the fact that V and Evey only really achieve the collapse of the government. The final pages show uncontrolled riots, looting and degradation. At least the Norsefire fellows kept order after the war, now Britain shall not have even this.

Then comes [[spoiler: the scene where Gordon is taken away but not before being brutally beaten. With the last part aside, it darkly mirrors Evey's flashback of her parents being taken.]]

* How Norsefire used the FATE supercomputer. Not only is it BigBrotherIsWatchingYou, but they try to portray as being ll-knowing, up to the point of able to make up-to-the-minute accurate weather predictions (one of which actually comes to pass). Even Oceania didn't go that far with their Big Brother figurehead.

-->'''Finch:''' ''I just want a chance to talk to her before she disappears in Creedy's black bags.''
** Evey's memories of her parents being taken away... "I never saw them again. It was like those black bags erased them from the face of the earth."
** Then comes [[spoiler: the scene where Gordon is taken away but not before being brutally beaten. With the last part aside, it darkly mirrors Evey's flashback of her parents being taken.]]

** Even its appearance is ''yet another'' hint to a [[ThoseWackyNazis certain political party of the Thirties' Germany]].
** The... "[[MadDoctor experiments]]" Dr Surridge performs on the prisoners involves injecting them with mutagenic chemicals, causing them to either [[BodyHorror sprout extra appendages]] or go irrecoverably insane. Like V.
* Everyone knows that when the government takes away the elderly to live in nice retirement homes, it's a DeadlyEuphemism for gas chambers. Except it's not even that: just some thugs with lead pipes.
** Thankfully averted in the film, with a retirement house being shown several times... Or maybe it's more of another way for the government to [[FauxAffablyEvil showcase themselves as caring about their citizens]]?

* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again" gives a [[HarsherInHindsight new and more chilling context]] to the film.

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* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again" gives a [[HarsherInHindsight new and more chilling context]] to the film.

* '''[[TheVirus That virus]].''' It's been called the most terrible biological attack in history, causing approx. 100,000 (one hundred thousand) deaths ''in the UK alone''. As it's most likely the infection got into the other countries with infected people, one is left to wonder how many lives were claimed by it abroad.
** Increasingly so on revealing that [[spoiler:it was the government who created and spread that infection and used it against their own people. Damn, [[PlayingWithSyringes even the way]] [[TestedOnHumans they tested it]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is downright disgusting]].]] Especially on learning that their vicious experiments aren't [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 (at least weren't)]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele that far]] from TruthInTelevision...

* The ending sequence, with the army charging at the protestors marching up towards them. Luckily [[OptOut the massacre was averted]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure at the last moment]], but still this minute was quite... intense, right?

* Once again, in the film Britain under Norsefire isn't shown so much as of a [[CrapsackWorld post-nuclear hellhole]] ruled by a WellIntentionedExtremist (as in the visual novel), rather [[CrapsaccharineWorld seemingly a prosperous and vibrant place]] with really nasty things [[SecretPolice swept under the rug]]... which for some is even more frightening, as it's '''closer to reality'''.

* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again" gives a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture new and more chilling context]] to the film.

* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again" gives a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture new and more chilling e context]] to the film.

* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again", in the context of the movie... [[TruthInTelevision truth in televsion]]?

* In 2017, just the split-second shot of the Reagan campaign poster with the slogan "Make America Great Again", in the context of the movie... [[TruthInTelevision]]?

* In the comic, the fact that V and Evey only really achieve the collapse of the government. The final pages show uncontrolled riots, looting and degradation. At least the Norsefire fellows kept order after the war, now Britain shall not have even this.

* Once again, in the film Britain under Norsefire isn't shown so much as of a [[CrapsackWorld post-nuclear hellhole]] ruled by a WellIntentionedExtremist (as in the visual novel), rather [[CrapsaccharineWorld seemingly a prosperous and vibrant place]] with really nasty things [[SecretPolice swept under the rug]]... which for some is even more frightening, as it's '''closer to reality'''.

* Hell, [[HellholePrison Larkhill detention centre]] in general. An abusive commander beating prisoners just for the hell of it, a [[SinisterMinister depraved priest]] (ironically, who should be caring about human rights in the centre), and [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate a "medical" doctor]] experimenting with bio-weapon on her "patients" to boot.

** Even its appearance is ''yet another'' hint to a [[ThoseWackyNazis certain political party of the Thirties' Germany]]...

* Everyone knows that when the government takes away the elderly to live in nice retirement homes, it's a euphemism for gas chambers. Except it's not even that: just some thugs with lead pipes.

* The ending sequence, with the army charging at the protestors marching up towards them. Luckily [[OptOut the massacre was averted]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure at the last moment]], but still this minute was quite... intense, right?

** Even its appearance is ''yet another'' hint to a [[ThoseWackyNazis certain political party of the Thirties' Germany]]...

* Hell, [[HellholePrison Larkhill detention centre]] in general. An abusive commander beating prisoners just for the hell of it, a [[SinisterMinister depraved priest]] (ironically, who should be caring about human rights in the centre), and an anti-medical doctor experimenting with bio-weapon on her "patients" to boot.

* So, where to begin? The possible ([[spoiler: but luckily averted]]) fate of Evey at the beginning of the novel/movie. Particularly in the film, where the Fingermen are going to rape [[DisproportionateRetribution (and allegedly murder)]] her for just literally being in the wrong place [[FascistsBedTime at the wrong time]].

** Increasingly so on revealing that [[spoiler:it was the government who created and spread that infection and used it against their own people. Damn, [[PlayingWithSyringes even the way]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything they tested it]] is downright disgusting.]] Especially on learning that their vicious experiments aren't [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 (at least weren't)]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele that far]] from TruthInTelevision...

* '''[[TheVirus That virus]].''' It's been called the most terrible biological attack in history, causing approx. 100,000 (one hundred thousand) deaths ''in the UK alone''. As it's most likely the infection got into the other countries with infected people, one is left to wonder how many lives were claimed by it abroad.

** >'''Finch:''' ''I just want a chance to talk to her before she disappears in Creedy's black bags.''

* So, where to begin? The possible ([[spoiler: but luckily averted]]) fate of Evey at the beginning of the novel/movie. Particularly in the film, where the Fingermen are going to rape [[DisprpportionateRetribution (and allegedly murder)]] her for just literally being in the wrong place [[FascistsBedTime at the wrong time]].
* The fate of all those captured by the Fingermen. After they are captured... they just disappear. No one (not even their closest relatives) knows what happens to them after they've been taken -- apart from the Fingermen themselves. Even the ordinary police don't know it.