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* Roy asks for some info and finds out that not only does this dragon have domination abilities, but it took all six members of The Order of the Scribble to take down! That means this dragon is several leagues of magnitude more powerful than anything the Order of the Stick have faced up until this point with the possible exception of Xykon himself. One fire breath is enough to require the use of cure serious wounds, and then Roy has to use telepathy to keep Elan's mouth shut to the fact that ''only Roy and Varsuuvius have wards against domination!'' If the Red Dragon gets wise to this he could easily dominate the majority of the group!
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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was forced into a state of suspended animation and kept that way for what's implied to have been decades (not to mention ''[[aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.

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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was forced into a state of suspended animation and kept that way for what's implied to have been decades (not to mention ''[[aware ''[[AndIMustScream aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.
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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was forced into a state of suspended animation and kept that way for what's implied to have been decades (''[[AndIMustScream and aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.

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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was forced into a state of suspended animation and kept that way for what's implied to have been decades (''[[AndIMustScream and aware (not to mention ''[[aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.
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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was frozen in suspended animation against its will for what's implied to have been decades (''[[AndIMustScream and aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.

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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was frozen in forced into a state of suspended animation against its will and kept that way for what's implied to have been decades (''[[AndIMustScream and aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.
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** It's equally nightmarish from the dragon's perspective. Red dragons on the whole may be far from a sympathetic species, but considering how this one was frozen in suspended animation against its will for what's implied to have been decades (''[[AndIMustScream and aware of it the entire time]]''), one can't exactly fault it for wanting to kill Serini.
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* [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1295.html #1295]] has the party come face-to-face with an adult or even ancient Red Dragon, who has charmed Sunny to break out of the stasis circle and proceeds to tell the party how he intends to kill Serini in a spectacularly gruesome fashion and breathes fire at the group after Roy tries to dissuade him from taking revenge on Serini for the untold years to decades of his imprisonment.
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* [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1291.html #1291]]: The situation with the Snarl is getting so desperate that Threads of Creation, which the gods used to make the world (and the Snarl), appear far away from the rift to block the party's path and are a symbol of reality fraying. Serini warns Elan not to touch them as they could be ''extremely'' dangerous for the toucher and the entire world, and they extend past and fray the panel borders in a case of TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou.
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* The massacre of Recloak's village at the hands of '''The Sapphire Guard'''. While they're depicted as self-righteous honorable to a fault in the main series, here they are nothing short of zealous xenophobic murderers. The goblins weren't attacking anyone, their village was miles from the Azurites' homeland. They attacked [[BlackAndWhiteMoraliy them solely because of their Alignment.]] While the bearer of the Crimson Mantle was a threat, they did not stop with him. Men, women, and children are all slaughtered without hesitation. While the Paladins congratulate themselves for purging evil from the world.

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* The massacre of Recloak's village at the hands of '''The Sapphire Guard'''. While they're depicted as self-righteous honorable to a fault in the main series, here they are nothing short of zealous xenophobic murderers. The goblins weren't attacking anyone, their village was miles from the Azurites' homeland. They attacked [[BlackAndWhiteMoraliy [[BlackAndWhiteMorality them solely because of their Alignment.]] While the bearer of the Crimson Mantle was a threat, they did not stop with him. Men, women, and children are all slaughtered without hesitation. While the Paladins congratulate themselves for purging evil from the world.
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* The massacre of Recloak's village at the hands of '''The Sapphire Guard'''. While they're depicted as self-righteous honorable to a fault in the main series, here they are nothing short of zealous xenophobic murderers. The goblins weren't attacking anyone, their village was miles from the Azurites' homeland. They attacked [[BlackAndWhiteMoraliy them solely because of their Alignment.]] While the bearer of the Crimson Mantle was a threat, they did not stop with him. Men, women, and children are all slaughtered without hesitation. While the Paladins congratulate themselves for purging evil from the world.
** It is revealed that this insanity was what led to Miko Miyazaki becoming as messed up as she did. Unlike Hinjo who entered during the reformation under O-Chul's guidance, Miko was indoctrinated with the same one-dimensional view of justice as the rest.
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** Doing the math (assuming a billion worlds, and a roughly linear progression from 4 years to 3-4 millennia per world), the gods must have been doing this for ''trillions of years''. At least a hundred times longer than our universe has existed. And [[TimeAbyss they remember everything]]. It's a small miracle that they are not absolute nervous wrecks.
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* V's acceptance of the Soul Splice, subsequent evil actions, then the revelation that the soul splice had no effect on V's morality, merely their power, and that was what V really wanted to do.
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** It turns out what they say is false, knowingly or unknowingly. But it can be just as terrifying to know the god that created you can abandon you and no one else will pick up the slack.
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** One other bit of horror: One of the undead apologizes to her when they turn on her. If they were as completely devoid of any love of their creator, they wouldn't have said a word. Instead, with that one sentence, it spells out that at least on some level, they had affection for her on some level or at least a shred of loyalty to her. It's just that there's no way that low-challenge rating minions like them can resist the command of a high-level cleric's Command Undead spell.
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** What's worse is that Vaarsuvius then gets annoyed with Elan's horror, and gives an ''ImpliedDeathThreat'' if he keeps distracting them from their research. It's undercut by Elan's continual inability to grasp what V means, but the fact of the matter is that Vaarsuvius, to all appearances, is entirely and genuinely willing to murder one of their TrueCompanions because they find him ''annoying.'' The Sanity Slippage is very real, and very frightening.

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** What's worse is that Vaarsuvius then gets annoyed with Elan's horror, and gives an ''ImpliedDeathThreat'' if he keeps distracting them from their research. It's undercut by Elan's continual inability to grasp what V means, but the fact of the matter is that Vaarsuvius, to all appearances, is entirely and genuinely willing to murder one of their TrueCompanions because they find him ''annoying.'' The Sanity Slippage SanitySlippage is very real, and very frightening.
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* Vaarsuvius casually murders Kubota for absolutely no other reason than Elan had him tied up and he was talking about having a trial. That's it. Sure, Kubota was a SmugSnake EvilAristocrat, but V had precisely zero knowledge of that. Elan rightfully has a FreakOut over how disturbingly nonchalant V is about the whole thing.
** What's worse is that Vaarsuvius then gets annoyed with Elan's horror, and gives an ''ImpliedDeathThreat'' if he keeps distracting them from their research. It's undercut by Elan's continual inability to grasp what V means, but the fact of the matter is that Vaarsuvius, to all appearances, is entirely and genuinely willing to murder one of their TrueCompanions because they find him ''annoying.'' The Sanity Slippage is very real, and very frightening.
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* [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1260.html #1260]]: The Monster in the Darkness isn't hungry, so Xykon decides he's going to murder the bugbear who made them so full (and maybe resurrect the bugbear's grandmother to watch for extra evil points. [[ForTheEvulz Xykon thinks the whole thing is funny]]) because he wants to feed the heroes to the Monster and it's currently full, presumably due to the bugbear's cooking. The Monster in the Darkness suggests skipping dinner instead, but Xykon blows him off. Note that Xykon does horrific things like this on a regular basis, so he most likely wasn't joking.
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* 1260 The Monster in the Darkness isn't hungry so Xykon says he's going to murder the bugbear who made them so full (and maybe resurrect their grandmother to watch for extra evil points. Xykon thinks the whole thing is funny) because he wants to feed dwarf heroes to it but it doesn't feel like it due to, as the monster is guessing, said bugbear's cooking. The Monster in the Darkness suggests skipping dinner but Xykon blows him off. Note that Xykon does horrific things like this on a regular basis, he's that petty.
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* 1260 The Monster in the Darkness isn't hungry so Xykon says he's going to murder the bugbear who made them so full (and maybe resurrect their grandmother to watch for extra evil points. Xykon thinks the whole thing is funny) because he wants to feed dwarf heroes to it but it doesn't feel like it due to, as the monster is guessing, said bugbear's cooking. The Monster in the Darkness suggests skipping dinner but Xykon blows him off. Note that Xykon does horrific things like this on a regular basis, he's that petty.
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** And then in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0930.html the strip after that]]. Quite aside from everything else, it's the same InsaneTrollLogic that [[AdultFear real domestic abuse comes with]].

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** And then in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0930.html the strip after that]]. Quite aside from everything else, it's the same InsaneTrollLogic that [[AdultFear real domestic abuse comes with]].with.
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* Right after that, Serini reveals the reason why she looks the way she does... and her backstory shows that Xykon used a spell to remove ''a quarter of the flesh off of her body''. It's presented simplistically, but it's oddly... disturbing.

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* [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1227.html 1227]]: Right after that, Serini reveals the reason why she looks the way she does... and her backstory shows that Xykon used a spell to remove ''a quarter of the flesh off of her body''. It's presented simplistically, but it's oddly... disturbing.
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* V's acceptance of the Soul Splice, subsequent evil actions, then the revelation that the soul splice had no effect on V's morality, merely his/her power, and that was what V really wanted to do.

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* V's acceptance of the Soul Splice, subsequent evil actions, then the revelation that the soul splice had no effect on V's morality, merely his/her their power, and that was what V really wanted to do.
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* One of the bonus strips from the book has the Order looking for Xykon's throne room. They keep opening doors marked [[SchmuckBait "Xykon's Throne Room"]], with results varying from snakes jumping out and arrows firing. However, one of the fake doors was actually animated, grew arms and legs and started attacking Haley. Another one contained something so terrible that Belkar immediately closed it. The only thing seen of it are the dozens of arms and hands trying to claw their way out of it.

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* One of the bonus strips from the book has the Order looking for Xykon's throne room. They keep opening doors marked [[SchmuckBait "Xykon's Throne Room"]], with results varying from snakes jumping out and arrows firing. However, one of the fake doors was actually animated, grew arms and legs and started attacking Haley. Another one contained something so terrible that Belkar [[BloodKnight Belkar]] immediately closed it. The only thing seen of it are the dozens of arms and hands trying to claw their way out of it.
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* Vaarsuvius entering into a triple [[DealWithTheDevil Soul Splice]] to save his/her family, allowing him/herself to be bound with the souls of an insane archmage, an epic-level {{necromancer}}, and a conjurer who used to plane-shift from vulnerable world to vulnerable world, conquering as he went.
** Then there's V's fight against the Black Dragon herself, where s/he dishes out a CurbStompBattle as terrible as the one s/he had received earlier. It culminates in the Black Dragon eating V, who then shapechanges into an even ''bigger'' dragon inside her stomach, causing her to [[TeleFrag violently explode in a shower of gore and meaty chunks. Vaarsuvius even eats a piece of her flesh.]]
** But that's not enough for Vaarsuvius, who animates the Black Dragon's head as an undead before casting a spell shown to him/her by the necromancer's soul. That spell? Is [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html Familicide:]] an epic level variant of the Death spell which targets any living blood relative of the target and ''instantly'' kills them. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0640.html Vaarusivius even estimates]] that with this spell, s/he has wiped out a ''quarter'' of the world's Black Dragon population. S/He then casually declares that this is the price owed for the Black Dragon daring to involve his/her family, then destroys the undead dragon's head with a Disintegrate.
** This act is not only so brutal that it impresses the fiends Vaarsuvius made his/her deal with, it terrifies V's mate to the point that s/he [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0641.html tries to ward V off with a stick, an act that ultimately leads to him/her divorcing Vaarsuvius.]]

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* Vaarsuvius entering into a triple [[DealWithTheDevil Soul Splice]] to save his/her their family, allowing him/herself themself to be bound with the souls of an insane archmage, an epic-level {{necromancer}}, and a conjurer who used to plane-shift from vulnerable world to vulnerable world, conquering as he went.
** Then there's V's fight against the Black Dragon herself, where s/he dishes they dish out a CurbStompBattle as terrible as the one s/he they had received earlier. It culminates in the Black Dragon eating V, who then shapechanges into an even ''bigger'' dragon inside her stomach, causing her to [[TeleFrag violently explode in a shower of gore and meaty chunks. Vaarsuvius even eats a piece of her flesh.]]
** But that's not enough for Vaarsuvius, who animates the Black Dragon's head as an undead before casting a spell shown to him/her them by the necromancer's soul. That spell? Is [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html Familicide:]] an epic level variant of the Death spell which targets any living blood relative of the target and ''instantly'' kills them. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0640.html Vaarusivius even estimates]] that with this spell, s/he has they have wiped out a ''quarter'' of the world's Black Dragon population. S/He They then casually declares declare that this is the price owed for the Black Dragon daring to involve his/her their family, then destroys the undead dragon's head with a Disintegrate.
** This act is not only so brutal that it impresses the fiends Vaarsuvius made his/her their deal with, it terrifies V's mate to the point that s/he they [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0641.html tries to ward V off with a stick, an act that ultimately leads to him/her them divorcing Vaarsuvius.]]
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* During the [[WretchedHive Cliffport]] storyline, once Belkar has his [[GeAs Mark of Justice]] removed he returns to his full murderous potential, as the Thieves' Guild [[MookHorrorShow discovers first-hand]].

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* During the [[WretchedHive Cliffport]] storyline, once Belkar has his [[GeAs [[{{Geas}} Mark of Justice]] removed he returns to his full murderous potential, as the Thieves' Guild [[MookHorrorShow discovers first-hand]].
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* During the [[WretchedHive Cliffport]] storyline, once Belker has his Mark of Justice removed he returns to his full murderous potential, as the Thieves' Guild [[MookHorrorShow discovers first-hand]].

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* During the [[WretchedHive Cliffport]] storyline, once Belker Belkar has his [[GeAs Mark of Justice Justice]] removed he returns to his full murderous potential, as the Thieves' Guild [[MookHorrorShow discovers first-hand]].
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* During the [[WretchedHive Cliffport]] storyline, once Belker has his Mark of Justice removed he returns to his full murderous potential, as the Thieves' Guild [[MookHorrorShow discovers first-hand]].
* One strip later, the end of [[TurnCoat Old Blind Pete]].
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-->'''Serini:''' Oh, you sweet dumb child, I didn't brew a whole cauldron of amnesia potion for just ''two'' of you. ''(SlasherSmile, [[StealthHiBye vanishes)''

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-->'''Serini:''' Oh, you sweet dumb child, I didn't brew a whole cauldron of amnesia potion for just ''two'' of you. ''(SlasherSmile, [[StealthHiBye vanishes)''vanishes]])''
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-->'''Serini:''' Oh, you sweet dumb child, I didn't brew a whole cauldron of amnesia potion for just ''two'' of you. ''(SlasherSmile, [[StealthHiBye vanishes)''
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* Tarquin in general is this. He makes it clear that EvenEvilHasLovedOnes. He tells an anecdote of a bar patron grabbing his wife's butt, Elan's mother, and that he murdered everyone in the bar for it. She divorced him in response to their alignment mismatch. He has always been screwy in the head as he mentions that he used the corpses of his victims as fertilizer for her garden. In response to the divorce, he left for the Western continent and formed a horrific regime. While it's understandable that she left him, it makes one wonder if it would have been better to have Tarquin stay as a lowly bar owner giving heroes and villains spooky conspiracy ridden quests instead of becoming a conqueror. Also, despite his insistence he was the leader of his group and that he will be king or legend, his ego is as fragile as Nale's. He's terrified of being forgotten so much so that the stress of his actions broke him a long time ago and he's a StepfordSmiler for it. His fight with Julio demonstrates this as he is considered a second or third stringer to Julio. This also reflects Xykon's insistence that the villains that actually die are failures and that at least being a brain in a jar as a means of staying in the game is preferable. He insists that he's happy with his lot but it's clear he's compromising and has given up on ultimate victory a long time ago. In the end, he's just as depressed and megalomaniacal as Nale. The result is a sad and terrifying villain driven insane who could have actually have had a happy life with his wife and kids if he just compromised a little more instead of lashing out and justifying his evil.

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