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* Really, the concept of the movies. A sociopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} a messy moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said sociopath believes they're wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for people in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept premise of the movies. A sociopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} a messy moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said sociopath believes they're wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for people in pig masks for weeks.
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* In the second game, you meet a victim named Zeke, who's in something like the glass box trap from Saw II. This destroys his hands. When you see him again, his hands are gone, and knives have been implanted on the ends of them. [[AssholeVictim This can be ameliorated by the fact]] [[PaedoHunt that Zeke is a child molester]], but there's something else to bear in mind. When you first meet him, Zeke is acting perfectly normal. When you see him next, [[AxCrazy he's jibbering, 'slicey-slicey-kill-kill' mad]]. The movies show [[DespairEventHorizon that regular minds are broken by this process]]. This is the first time one's been flat-out ''[[SanitySlippage shattered]]''.

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* In the second game, you meet a victim named Zeke, who's in something like the glass box trap from Saw II.''Saw II''. This destroys his hands. When you see him again, his hands are gone, and knives have been implanted on the ends of them. [[AssholeVictim This can be ameliorated by the fact]] [[PaedoHunt that Zeke is a child molester]], but there's something else to bear in mind. When you first meet him, Zeke is acting perfectly normal. When you see him next, [[AxCrazy he's jibbering, 'slicey-slicey-kill-kill' mad]]. The movies show [[DespairEventHorizon that regular minds are broken by this process]]. This is the first time one's been flat-out ''[[SanitySlippage shattered]]''.

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* Billy the Puppet. Granted, he looks pretty inconspicuous on and doesn't really do anything other than deliver messages, but just look at this thing. He looks like a twisted cross between a ventriloquist dummy and a harlequin [[RedEyesTakeWarning with bright, angry red eyes]] and even appears to be moving on his own in some scenes. And that's ''before'' he starts speaking with Jigsaw's raspy mechanical voice to deliver a [[BreakingSpeech cruel take-down of you]], and you realize he might be ''the last'' face you ever see before you [[CruelAndUnusualDeath meet an incredibly gruesome demise.]]



* Billy the Puppet. Granted, he looks pretty inconspicuous on and doesn't really do anything other than deliver messages, but just look at this thing. He looks like a twisted cross between a ventriloquist dummy and a harlequin [[RedEyesTakeWarning with bright, angry red eyes]] and even appears to be moving on his own in some scenes. And that's ''before'' he starts speaking with Jigsaw's raspy mechanical voice to deliver a [[BreakingSpeech cruel take-down of you]], and you realize he might be ''the last'' face you ever see before you [[CruelAndUnusualDeath meet an incredibly gruesome demise.]]

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* Billy the Puppet. Granted, he looks pretty inconspicuous on and doesn't really do anything other than deliver messages, but just look at this thing. He looks like a twisted cross between a ventriloquist dummy and a harlequin [[RedEyesTakeWarning with bright, angry red eyes]] and even appears to be moving on his own in some scenes. And that's ''before'' he starts speaking with Jigsaw's raspy mechanical voice to deliver a [[BreakingSpeech cruel take-down of you]], and you realize he might be ''the last'' face you ever see before you [[CruelAndUnusualDeath meet an incredibly gruesome demise.]]
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for people in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic sociopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} an equally psychotic a messy moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath sociopath believes they are they're wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for people in pig masks for weeks.
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Ubermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls people in pig masks for weeks.
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Übermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[{{Übermensch}} [[{{Ubermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch [[{{Übermensch}} an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include: self harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed (which include: self harming, include self-harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Billy the Puppet. Granted, he looks pretty inconspicuous on and doesn't really do anything other than deliver messages, but just look at this thing. He looks like a twisted cross between a ventriloquist dummy and a harlequin [[RedEyesTakeWarning with bright, angry red eyes]] and even appears to be moving on his own in some scenes. And that's ''before'' he starts speaking with Jigsaw's raspy mechanical voice to deliver a [[BreakingSpeech cruel take-down of you]], and you realize he might be ''the last'' face you ever see before you [[CruelAndUnusualDeath meet an incredibly gruesome demise.]]
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* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Sing, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that [[ParentalNeglect she's been neglecting her son]], sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. [[AdultFear Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression]].

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* Another One victim in the first game is Melissa Sing, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that [[ParentalNeglect she's been neglecting her son]], sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. [[AdultFear Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression]].

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* Also in the second game is Solomon, whose trap has him tied to a rack and placed over burners on a track. Michael has to push him around, solving the puzzles that unlock the gates to move on all while keeping him off of the burners that are spewing flames. Imagine being in that man's shoes: having to trust someone to keep you moving forwards out of the danger of being cooked alive, all while there's a fire igniting under you...

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* Also in the second game is Solomon, whose trap has him tied to a rack and placed over burners on a track. Michael has to push him around, solving the puzzles that unlock the gates to move on all while keeping him off of the burners that are spewing flames. Imagine being in that man's shoes: having to trust someone to keep you moving forwards out of the danger of being cooked alive, all while there's a fire igniting under you...you...
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* One of the victims from the first game is Amanda, who's been explicitly put in that game because 'she didn't learn her lesson'. Remember the SerialKiller who could be waiting to torture you for doing something wrong? [[ParanoiaFuel Yeah, now bear in mind if you slip, you're not safe from having a 'refresher course' done on you]].
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* One of the victims from the first game is Amanda, who's been explicitly put in that game because 'she didn't learn her lesson'. Remember the serial killer who could be waiting to torture you for doing something wrong? Yeah, now bear in mind if you slip, you're not safe from having a 'refresher course' done on you.
* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Sing, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that she's been neglecting her son, sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression.
* In the second game, you meet a victim named Zeke, who's in something like the glass box trap from Saw II. This destroys his hands. When you see him again, his hands are gone, and knives have been implanted on the ends of them. This can be ameliorated by the fact that Zeke is a child molester, but there's something else to bear in mind. When you first meet him, Zeke is acting perfectly normal. When you see him next, he's jibbering, 'slicey-slicey-kill-kill' mad. The movies show that regular minds are broken by this process. This is the first time one's been flat-out ''shattered''.

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* One of the victims from the first game is Amanda, who's been explicitly put in that game because 'she didn't learn her lesson'. Remember the serial killer SerialKiller who could be waiting to torture you for doing something wrong? [[ParanoiaFuel Yeah, now bear in mind if you slip, you're not safe from having a 'refresher course' done on you.
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* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Sing, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that [[ParentalNeglect she's been neglecting her son, son]], sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. [[AdultFear Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression.
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* In the second game, you meet a victim named Zeke, who's in something like the glass box trap from Saw II. This destroys his hands. When you see him again, his hands are gone, and knives have been implanted on the ends of them. [[AssholeVictim This can be ameliorated by the fact fact]] [[PaedoHunt that Zeke is a child molester, molester]], but there's something else to bear in mind. When you first meet him, Zeke is acting perfectly normal. When you see him next, [[AxCrazy he's jibbering, 'slicey-slicey-kill-kill' mad. mad]]. The movies show [[DespairEventHorizon that regular minds are broken by this process. process]]. This is the first time one's been flat-out ''shattered''.''[[SanitySlippage shattered]]''.
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** Most (if not all) of the traps are based on actual torture or death devices. Screenwriter Leigh Whannell described it as "only scratching the surface of how horrible human beings have been to one another for all eternity."
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* Meta example: Those traps are terrifying by themselves. What's more terrifying is that someone in the real world had to make sure they are somewhat plausible.
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* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Song, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that she's been neglecting her son, sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression.

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* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Song, Sing, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that she's been neglecting her son, sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression.
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** The worst part is that many of the people who do survive (and nine out of ten times, come out very traumatized) by these traps ''[[StockholmSyndrome end up as his own most devoted disciples]]''.

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* One of the victims from the first game is Amanda, who's been explicitly put in that game because 'she didn't learn her lesson'. Remember the serial killer who could be waiting to torture you for doing something wrong? Yeah, now bear in mind if you slip, you're not safe from having a 'refresher course' done on you.
* Another victim in the first game is Melissa Song, the wife of Tapp's late partner Steven, whose life just went to Hell after Steven's death. She's let her grief over her husband's death and hatred of Tapp for supposedly getting him killed get so bad that she's been neglecting her son, sending him to school clothed in dirty clothes and unfed. And even after Child Protective Services have been called, she's still not changing. Really makes you feel scared for anyone in the son's shoes, even if you sympathize with Melissa's obvious depression.
* In the second game, you meet a victim named Zeke, who's in something like the glass box trap from Saw II. This destroys his hands. When you see him again, his hands are gone, and knives have been implanted on the ends of them. This can be ameliorated by the fact that Zeke is a child molester, but there's something else to bear in mind. When you first meet him, Zeke is acting perfectly normal. When you see him next, he's jibbering, 'slicey-slicey-kill-kill' mad. The movies show that regular minds are broken by this process. This is the first time one's been flat-out ''shattered''.
* Also in the second game is Solomon, whose trap has him tied to a rack and placed over burners on a track. Michael has to push him around, solving the puzzles that unlock the gates to move on all while keeping him off of the burners that are spewing flames. Imagine being in that man's shoes: having to trust someone to keep you moving forwards out of the danger of being cooked alive, all while there's a fire igniting under you...

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed, and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.
** The worst part is that the people who do survive (and surely got traumatized) by these traps ''[[StockholmSyndrome end up as his own most devoted disciples]]''.

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* The Iron Maiden trap. Interestingly enough, it kills the victim very fast (being two big metal slabs with ''[[ChainsawGood SPINNING SAWBLADES]]'' inside), but that's not comforting at all- if you mess up on the puzzle 6 times (which is not too difficult, [[GameBreakingBug considering a glitch in the puzzle]]), the victim [[TheScream screams]] and the maiden slams together, [[CruelAndUnusualDeath grinding the victim to a pulp.]] And it gets better- when you're 3 strikes away from failing, the maiden slams against the ground repeatedly. *SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM*
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is forcing people to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed, killed (which include: self harming, drugs, alcohol abuse, getting a divorce, taking antidepressants, being even slightly unfaithful to your partner, lying about your health, and more) and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.
** The worst part is that many of the people who do survive (and surely got nine out of ten times, come out very traumatized) by these traps ''[[StockholmSyndrome end up as his own most devoted disciples]]''.

!!''Saw: The Video Game'':
* The Iron Maiden trap. Interestingly enough, it kills the victim very fast (being two big metal slabs with ''[[ChainsawGood SPINNING SAWBLADES]]'' inside), but that's not comforting at all- if you mess up on the puzzle 6 times (which is not too difficult, [[GameBreakingBug considering a glitch in the puzzle]]), the victim [[TheScream screams]] and the maiden slams together, [[CruelAndUnusualDeath grinding the victim to a pulp.]] And it gets better- when you're 3 strikes away from failing, the maiden slams against the ground repeatedly. *SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM*
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* Really, the concept of the movies. A man is killing people who don't appreciate their lives enough. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed, and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.

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* Really, the concept of the movies. A man psychopathic KnightTemplar with [[TheUbermensch an equally psychotic moral philosophy]] is killing forcing people who don't appreciate to mutilate themselves as a form of "rehabilitation" or else they die... and that's because said psychopath believes they are wasting their lives enough.in immorality without suffering for it. Now, if you happen to have done any of the things that got characters in the films killed, and then are foolish enough to watch the movies, good luck sleeping. You'll be checking your closets for girls in pig masks for weeks.
** The worst part is that the people who do survive (and surely got traumatized) by these traps ''[[StockholmSyndrome end up as his own most devoted disciples]]''.

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