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** Then there's the apparent [[spoiler: ''poisoning'' of Kanae by Akio]]. Remember that she's someone we ''don't'' [[spoiler: see at the end]]. Definitely didn't get a happy ending of any kind.
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** [[spoiler: Actually, considering how Utena reacts when she discovers Anthy naked in the third arc, this might not be true. The possibility is still more than a little unnerving, though.]]
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* A few moments are quite scary, most of them involving Anthy and Akio.

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* A few moments are quite scary, most of them involving Anthy and Akio. Akio, most of which aren't "jump out of your seat and scream" scary but a more psychologically disturbing kind of scary, especially once you find out the true nature of their relationship.
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**[[spoiler: Actually, considering how Utena reacts when she discovers Anthy naked in the third arc, this might not be true. The possibility is still more than a little unnerving, though.]]
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* Ruka [[spoiler:sexually assaulting]] Juri in the fencing hall. More specifically, [[spoiler:he throws her up against the wall, pins her there by both wrists, and forcibly kisses her; he holds her like that for several seconds and only stops when Juri ''bites his lip''. Even after that, he drops Juri's locket to the floor ([[FridgeHorror which makes one wonder when and how he got it off her]]) and threatens to crush it under his foot as if he thinks Shiori is lower than dirt.]]

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* Ruka [[spoiler:sexually assaulting]] Juri in the fencing hall. More specifically, [[spoiler:he throws her up against the wall, pins her there by both wrists, and forcibly kisses her; Moreover, [[spoiler:the fact that he holds her like against the wall in that forced kiss for several seconds ''several seconds'' and only stops when Juri ''bites his lip''. Even lip'']]. And even after that, he [[spoiler:he drops Juri's locket to the floor ([[FridgeHorror which makes one wonder when and how he got it off her]]) and threatens to crush it under his foot as if he thinks Shiori is lower than dirt.]]
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* Episode 9: Touga and Saionji find a young Utena ''hiding in a coffin'' next to her dead parents (who are in separate coffins). Just something very creepy about it, especially when we learn that Utena has given up on life and is awaiting death, finding it pointless to live if all humans eventually die.

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* Episode 9: Touga and Saionji find a young Utena ''hiding in a coffin'' next to her dead parents (who are in separate coffins). Just something very creepy about it, especially when we learn that Utena The trauma of losing her parents has given caused her to give up on life and is awaiting death, finding it life, as she thinks it's pointless to live on if all humans eventually die.die anyway. She's no older than six or seven in this flashback, and yet she's basically ''suicidal''.



* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]]), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is ''extremely'' sexualised, what with his violent twitching and her lovesick "[[spoiler:Touga-sama~]]" during the process).
* [[spoiler:Wakaba]]'s elevator scene, if you think about it. Most elevator scenes in the Black Rose arc feature a picture of a butterfly on the wall that turns into a chrysalis, then a caterpillar, then a leaf (presumably with eggs on it) as the duelist-to-be comes closer and closer to their breaking point; therefore, it says a lot about how damn hard [[spoiler:Wakaba]] snaps when that picture is ''already a caterpillar'' when we see her in there!

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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]]), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is ''extremely'' sexualised, sexualised to hell and back, what with his violent twitching and her lovesick "[[spoiler:Touga-sama~]]" during the process).
* [[spoiler:Wakaba]]'s elevator scene, if you think about it. Most elevator scenes in the Black Rose arc feature a picture of a butterfly on the wall that turns into a chrysalis, then a caterpillar, then a leaf (presumably with eggs on it) as the duelist-to-be duellist-to-be comes closer and closer to their breaking point; therefore, it says a lot about how damn hard [[spoiler:Wakaba]] snaps when that picture is ''already a caterpillar'' when we see her in there!




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* Ruka [[spoiler:sexually assaulting]] Juri in the fencing hall. More specifically, [[spoiler:he throws her up against the wall, pins her there by both wrists, and forcibly kisses her; he holds her like that for several seconds and only stops when Juri ''bites his lip''. Even after that, he drops Juri's locket to the floor ([[FridgeHorror which makes one wonder when and how he got it off her]]) and threatens to crush it under his foot as if he thinks Shiori is lower than dirt.]]
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* In the ''very first minute'', we see [[spoiler: Akio is up to his old tricks again. First, we see Akio and Anthy standing together, looking out the window of the tower. The next moment, he's no longer there, and we switch to him appearing as Dios to Utena, who is mourning as a child.]]
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* In the first episode, Utena recognizes Dios's scent on the Rose Bride. Later, we find out that [[spoiler: Dios became the MagnificentBastard Akio and has been [[RapeIsLove forcing himself]] on his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister, Anthy]] aka the Rose Bride.]] It only gets worse when Akio, after having seduced Utena, comments the three of them are [[spoiler: like ''family'']] and [[BrainBleach AFFFGH.]]

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* In the first episode, Utena recognizes Dios's scent on the Rose Bride. Later, we find out that [[spoiler: Dios became the MagnificentBastard Akio and has been [[RapeIsLove forcing himself]] on his [[BrotherSisterIncest forcing himself on his sister, Anthy]] aka the Rose Bride.]] It only gets worse when Akio, after having seduced Utena, comments the three of them are [[spoiler: like ''family'']] and [[BrainBleach AFFFGH.]]



* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear [[HellIsThatNoise what sounds awfully like a dentist drill]]. Not to mention that [[spoiler:said scar is shown as a huge hole in her chest]].

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* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear [[HellIsThatNoise what sounds awfully like a dentist drill]]. Not to mention that [[spoiler:said scar is shown as a huge hole in her chest]]. ''Or'' that [[spoiler:the collection of Akio's paintings turns into a composite image of Anthy being raped]].
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** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]]. What's more, the butterflies themselves symbolise all sorts of squicky things: [[spoiler: 1. Parasitism; they're cabbage white butterflies, and fittingly enough, the scene takes place in a cabbage patch. 2. Cruel innocence, a phrase associated with Shiori in the series; note how the butterflies perch on the child Touga in his worst moment. 3. As stated by Ikuhara on the commentry track, it's the coming together of Shiori's malicious feelings and Touga's nightmarish past into one force of evil.]]

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** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]]. What's more, the butterflies themselves symbolise all sorts of squicky things: [[spoiler: 1. Parasitism; they're cabbage white butterflies, and fittingly enough, the scene takes place in a cabbage patch. 2. Cruel innocence, a phrase associated with Shiori in the series; note how the butterflies perch on the child Touga in his worst moment. 3. As stated by Ikuhara on the commentry track, it's the coming together of Shiori's malicious feelings and Touga's nightmarish past into one force of evil.]]
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* [[WordOfGod According to the screenplay writer]], Kanae's mother [[spoiler:''poisoned her own husband'', under instruction from Akio]]. It certainly puts her lack of care for her husband in her one scene in the series in a darker light. Yet again, you have to feel bad for Kanae, because she has no knowledge about that ''or'' [[spoiler:the sexual relationship between Akio and her mother (his future mother-in-law!)]].

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* [[WordOfGod According to the screenplay writer]], Kanae's mother [[spoiler:''poisoned her own husband'', under instruction from Akio]]. It certainly puts casts a darker light on her lack of care for her husband in her one scene in the series in a darker light.series. Yet again, you have to feel bad for Kanae, because she has no knowledge about that ''or'' [[spoiler:the sexual relationship between Akio and her mother (his future mother-in-law!)]].
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* Also, in the first arc when Anthy's alone in the classroom singing that bunnies all in a row or whatever song and doing the thing with her hands.

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* Also, in the first arc when Anthy's alone in the classroom singing that bunnies all in a row or whatever song and doing the thing "rabbit dance" with her hands.hands in the seventh episode.



* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill. Not to mention that [[spoiler:said scar is shown as a huge hole in her chest]].
* Saionji gets quite a creepy AxCrazy look on his face during his duel with Utena. He also acts like he's trying to kill Utena.

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* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear [[HellIsThatNoise what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.drill]]. Not to mention that [[spoiler:said scar is shown as a huge hole in her chest]].
* Saionji gets quite a creepy AxCrazy look on his face makes some downright terrifying AxeCrazy faces during his duel with Utena. He also acts like he's trying to kill Utena.her.



** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]].

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** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]]. What's more, the butterflies themselves symbolise all sorts of squicky things: [[spoiler: 1. Parasitism; they're cabbage white butterflies, and fittingly enough, the scene takes place in a cabbage patch. 2. Cruel innocence, a phrase associated with Shiori in the series; note how the butterflies perch on the child Touga in his worst moment. 3. As stated by Ikuhara on the commentry track, it's the coming together of Shiori's malicious feelings and Touga's nightmarish past into one force of evil.]]




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* This generally comes far behind the rest, but some viewers find the infamous "car wash" scene rather scary.

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* In the final episode, Akio [[spoiler:uses Utena's soul sword to repeatedly strike at the Rose Gate in an attempt to force it open. With each hit, Utena ''cries out in pain'', and it ''doesn't'' seem to be from her earlier stab wound]]. Think of the implications there.
* [[WordOfGod According to the screenplay writer]], Kanae's mother [[spoiler:''poisoned her own husband'', under instruction from Akio]]. It certainly puts her lack of care for her husband in her one scene in the series in a darker light. Yet again, you have to feel bad for Kanae, because she has no knowledge about that ''or'' [[spoiler:the sexual relationship between Akio and her mother (his future mother-in-law!)]].



* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.

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* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill. Not to mention that [[spoiler:said scar is shown as a huge hole in her chest]].



* Touga was [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].

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* Touga was [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].father as a child]].
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* The first real example of nightmare fuel came with the first episode of Black Rose arc, showing us how [[MindRape Mikage and Mamiya recruit the Black Rose Duelists]]. Akio's fiancee Kanae, goes to Nemuro Memorial Hall for her interview. She enters an elevator and, in anguished tears, divulges her attempts to make friends with Anthy as the elevator speeds past strange plaques ([[spoiler:actually mausoleum plots]]). Meanwhile, someone over a loudspeaker tells her to go [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Deeper. Even deeper"]] as the elevator accelerates more and more as it descends. Finally, [[DespairEventHorizon poor Kanae reaches her breaking point]] and Mikage appears behind her from the door, telling her she has no choice but to revolutionize the world. '''And''' then before she can react, Mamiya stabs her in the chest with a black rose. [[TheWoobie Poor Kanae!]]

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* The first real example of nightmare fuel came with the first episode of Black Rose arc, showing us how [[MindRape Mikage and Mamiya recruit the Black Rose Duelists]]. Akio's fiancee Kanae, Kanae goes to Nemuro Memorial Hall for her interview. She enters an elevator and, in anguished tears, divulges her attempts to make friends with Anthy as the elevator speeds past strange plaques ([[spoiler:actually mausoleum plots]]). Meanwhile, someone over a loudspeaker tells her to go [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Deeper. Even deeper"]] as the elevator accelerates more and more as it descends. Finally, [[DespairEventHorizon poor Kanae reaches her breaking point]] and Mikage appears behind her from the door, telling her she has no choice but to revolutionize the world. '''And''' then before she can react, Mamiya stabs her in the chest with a black rose. [[TheWoobie Poor Kanae!]]
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* The first real example of nightmare fuel came with the first episode of Black Rose arc, showing us how [[MindRape Mikage and Mamiya recruits the Black Rose Duelists]]. Akio's fiancee Kanae, goes to Nemuro Memorial Hall for her interview. She enters an elevator and, in anguished tears, divulges her attempts to make friends with Anthy as the elevator speeds past strange plaques ([[spoiler:actually mausoleum plots]]). Meanwhile, someone over a loudspeaker tells her to go [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Deeper. Even deeper"]] as the elevator accelerates more and more as it descends. Finally, [[DespairEventHorizon poor Kanae reaches her breaking point]] and Mikage appears behind her from the door, telling her she has no choice but to revolutionize the world. '''And''' then before she can react, Mamiya stabs her in the chest with a black rose. [[TheWoobie Poor Kanae!]]

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* The first real example of nightmare fuel came with the first episode of Black Rose arc, showing us how [[MindRape Mikage and Mamiya recruits recruit the Black Rose Duelists]]. Akio's fiancee Kanae, goes to Nemuro Memorial Hall for her interview. She enters an elevator and, in anguished tears, divulges her attempts to make friends with Anthy as the elevator speeds past strange plaques ([[spoiler:actually mausoleum plots]]). Meanwhile, someone over a loudspeaker tells her to go [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Deeper. Even deeper"]] as the elevator accelerates more and more as it descends. Finally, [[DespairEventHorizon poor Kanae reaches her breaking point]] and Mikage appears behind her from the door, telling her she has no choice but to revolutionize the world. '''And''' then before she can react, Mamiya stabs her in the chest with a black rose. [[TheWoobie Poor Kanae!]]
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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]]), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).

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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]]), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).''extremely'' sexualised, what with his violent twitching and her lovesick "[[spoiler:Touga-sama~]]" during the process).
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** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. [[spoiler:Incest, ephebophilia, grooming, manipulation, dubcon, flat-out rape, emotional abuse... he has all those checked off and more.]]

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** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. [[spoiler:Incest, ephebophilia, grooming, manipulation, dubcon, flat-out rape, emotional abuse... he has does all those checked off of that and more.]]



* [[spoiler:Wakaba]]'s elevator scene, if you think about it. Most elevator scenes in the Black Rose arc feature a picture of a butterfly on the wall that turns into a chrysalis, then a caterpillar, then a leaf (presumably with eggs on it) as the duelist-to-be comes closer and closer to their breaking point. When we see [[spoiler:Wakaba]] in there, ''the picture is already a caterpillar!''

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* [[spoiler:Wakaba]]'s elevator scene, if you think about it. Most elevator scenes in the Black Rose arc feature a picture of a butterfly on the wall that turns into a chrysalis, then a caterpillar, then a leaf (presumably with eggs on it) as the duelist-to-be comes closer and closer to their breaking point. When we see point; therefore, it says a lot about how damn hard [[spoiler:Wakaba]] in there, ''the snaps when that picture is already ''already a caterpillar!''caterpillar'' when we see her in there!

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** Let's not forget the scene where Touga suddenly tries to rape Nanami in Akio's car, which she fights off in horror, and he acts confused because he thought its what she always wanted.
* The scene in episode 3 when Nanami tries to embarrass Anthy by making her dress dissolve. Also, there's also the UncannyValley view of the crowd at the party from Anthy's point of view.

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** Let's not forget the scene where Touga suddenly tries to rape Nanami in Akio's car, which she fights off in horror, and he acts confused gets angry because he thought its if sex isn't what she always wanted.wanted, then what ''does'' she want? Actually, the sheer level of bullshit he pulls on her in that episode is nightmarish in itself.
* The scene in episode 3 when Nanami tries to embarrass Anthy by making her dress dissolve. Also, there's also the UncannyValley view of the crowd at the party from Anthy's point of view. It doesn't seem so horrific at first, but when you rewatch it with the knowledge of ''why'' Anthy doesn't like crowds, it's decidedly painful.



** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them.

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** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. [[spoiler:Incest, ephebophilia, grooming, manipulation, dubcon, flat-out rape, emotional abuse... he has all those checked off and more.]]



* [[spoiler:Wakaba]]'s elevator scene, if you think about it. Most elevator scenes in the Black Rose arc feature a picture of a butterfly on the wall that turns into a chrysalis, then a caterpillar, then a leaf (presumably with eggs on it) as the duelist-to-be comes closer and closer to their breaking point. When we see [[spoiler:Wakaba]] in there, ''the picture is already a caterpillar!''



* Movie!Anthy is just as [[spoiler: miserable and emotionally broken as her series counterpart]]. It's implied she's about to [[spoiler: commit suicide]] before Utena finds her. And whereas in the series, it's a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when she stops her, here, Anthy's subtle jabs at Utena make her ''fly into a rage'', throwing her down to the floor and screaming at her.

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* Movie!Anthy is just as [[spoiler: miserable and emotionally broken as her series counterpart]]. It's implied she's about to [[spoiler: commit suicide]] before Utena finds her.her in the Rose Garden at night. And whereas in the series, it's a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when she stops her, here, Anthy's subtle jabs at Utena make her ''fly into a rage'', throwing her down to the floor and screaming at her.

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* Some of the later shadow girl plays sneak into this territory. There's even a borderline GoryDiscretionShot when one of the shadow girls ''breaks the other one in half''. [[HellIsThatNoise A disturbingly realistic squishy, snapping sound is included, of course]].

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* Some of the later shadow girl plays sneak into this territory. There's even a borderline GoryDiscretionShot when one of the shadow girls ''breaks the other one in half''. [[HellIsThatNoise A disturbingly realistic squishy, snapping sound is included, of course]]. course]], and somehow, B-ko's deadpan "ow" afterwards makes it even worse.



* Episode 9: Touga and Saionji find a young Utena ''hiding in a coffin'' next to her dead parents (who are in separate coffins). Just something very creepy about it, especially when we learn that Utena has given up on life and is awaiting death, finding it pointless to live if all humans eventually die.
* In episode 12 Utena's HeroicBSOD after her defeat at the hands of Touga.
* Nanami got a kitten for her brother (Touga) for his birthday, but being such a {{Yandere}} for him she ''drowned'' it because it was taking up all Touga's attention.

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* Episode 9: Touga and Saionji find a young Utena ''hiding in a coffin'' next to her dead parents (who are in separate coffins). Just something very creepy about it, especially when we learn that Utena has given up on life and is awaiting death, finding it pointless to live if all humans eventually die.
* In episode 12 Utena's HeroicBSOD after her defeat at the hands of Touga.
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* Nanami got a kitten for her brother (Touga) for his birthday, as a birthday present, but being such a {{Yandere}} for him she ''drowned'' it because it was taking up all Touga's attention.attention. She was about ''five years old'' at the time!



** Let's not forget the scene where Touga tries to rape Nanami in Akio's car which she fights off and he acts confused because he thought its what she always wanted.

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** Let's not forget the scene where Touga suddenly tries to rape Nanami in Akio's car car, which she fights off in horror, and he acts confused because he thought its what she always wanted.



** Nanami rightly has a HeroicBSOD after finding this out and says that [[StrangeGirl Anthy scares her.]] Anthy's response is to say perfectly pleasant: "I do? Thanks so much!"
** Anthy's subsequent shaving of the shaved ice with a massive saw.

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** Nanami rightly has a HeroicBSOD after finding this out and says that [[StrangeGirl Anthy scares her.]] her]]. Anthy's response is to say [[DissonantSerenity perfectly pleasant: pleasantly]]: "I do? Thanks so much!"
** Anthy's subsequent shaving of the shaved ice with
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** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them.

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** The very worst part of that scene is, a new viewer (especially a younger one) who's watching it for the first time and hasn't been spoiled beforehand ''won't necessarily realise straight away that it's a sex scene!'' Meep.
** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them.



* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]], [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).

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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]], else]]), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).



* Touga is [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].

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* Touga is was [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].



** And just after that scene, Anthy is swinging an axe and looks ''very close'' to decapitating Utena.

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** And just after that scene, Anthy is swinging an axe and looks ''very close'' to decapitating Utena.Utena.

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* The first ''Utena'' light novel has a rather creepy sex scene between [[spoiler:Touga and Miki(!)]]. The consent is dubious, it's obviously manipulative, and then there's [[spoiler:Touga]]'s evil little smile at the end of the scene.
* Also from the novel: Kozue's breakdown at the piano, where she keeps slamming on the keys and screaming for Utena to get out of her and Miki's special place.
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* Movie!Anthy is just as [[spoiler: miserable and emotionally broken as her series counterpart]]. It's implied she's about to [[spoiler: commit suicide]] before Utena finds her. And whereas in the series, it's a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming when she stops her, here, Anthy's subtle jabs at Utena make her ''fly into a rage'', throwing her down to the floor and screaming at her.

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* Movie!Anthy is just as [[spoiler: miserable and emotionally broken as her series counterpart]]. It's implied she's about to [[spoiler: commit suicide]] before Utena finds her. And whereas in the series, it's a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when she stops her, here, Anthy's subtle jabs at Utena make her ''fly into a rage'', throwing her down to the floor and screaming at her.
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* Movie!Anthy is just as [[spoiler: miserable and emotionally broken as her series counterpart]]. It's implied she's about to [[spoiler: commit suicide]] before Utena finds her. And whereas in the series, it's a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming when she stops her, here, Anthy's subtle jabs at Utena make her ''fly into a rage'', throwing her down to the floor and screaming at her.
**And just after that scene, Anthy is swinging an axe and looks ''very close'' to decapitating Utena.
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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (it's pulled out very slowly - perhaps sadistically so, depending on who you ask), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).

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* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (it's pulled out very slowly - perhaps sadistically so, depending on who you ask), (''very slowly'', at that, and the noises of pain Juri makes almost sounds like [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything something]] [[NearRapeExperience else]], [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).

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!!'''The Series'''



** Like in the movie a flashback shows that [[spoiler:Akio slipped a drug into his sister Anthy's drink and then took advantage of her sexually]]. This is icky enough, but it then goes on to show that afterwards [[spoiler:he realized that she was awake and began to panic, and wound up stabbing her and then falling out a window to his death]]. Yikes.



* In the movie version, the revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.



* In the movie Saionji gets quite a creepy AxCrazy look on his face during his duel with Utena. He also acts like he's trying to kill Utena.
* In the movie Touga is [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].
** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]].



* There's also Kozue who is shown to be rather obsessed with her twin Miki and to grab her brother's attention she exercises loose sexual morals. She's extremely possessive of Miki to the point where she physically hurts anyone who tries to hurt or "steal" him. In the movie she is shown holding a razor to his throat while they're both in the bathtub together and calling him a traitor when he refuses to divulge details of his personal affairs to her.

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* There's also Kozue who is shown to be rather obsessed with her twin Miki and to grab her brother's attention she exercises loose sexual morals. She's extremely possessive of Miki to the point where she physically hurts anyone who tries to hurt or "steal" him. In the movie she is shown holding a razor to his throat while they're both in the bathtub together and calling him a traitor when he refuses to divulge details of his personal affairs to her.



** Anthy's subsequent shaving of the shaved ice with a massive chainsaw.

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** Anthy's subsequent shaving of the shaved ice with a massive chainsaw.saw.



* And the sex scene between [[spoiler: Akio and Utena]] in episode 33, seeing as how she's thirteen/fourteen years old and he's way older than her, plus the dubious consent and...topic of discussion. You won't be thinking of sandwiches the same way again for a good while afterwards. All the more nightmarish when you see her ''gasping in pain''.

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* And the sex scene between [[spoiler: Akio and Utena]] in episode 33, seeing as how she's thirteen/fourteen fourteen years old and he's way older than her, plus the dubious consent and...topic of discussion. You won't be thinking of sandwiches the same way again for a good while afterwards. All the more nightmarish when you see her ''gasping in pain''.



*** And finally, there's a theory that [[spoiler: Akio killed Utena's parents. Can't get more monstrous than that. They died ''in a car crash''. And whose symbolism is most prominently cars?]]

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*** And finally, there's a theory that [[spoiler: Akio killed Utena's parents. Can't get more monstrous than that. They died ''in a car crash''. And whose symbolism is most prominently cars?]]cars?]]

!!'''The Movie'''
* A flashback shows that [[spoiler:Akio slipped a drug into his sister Anthy's drink and then took advantage of her sexually]]. This is icky enough, but it then goes on to show that afterwards [[spoiler:he realized that she was awake and began to panic, and wound up stabbing her and then falling out a window to his death]]. Yikes.
* The revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.
* Saionji gets quite a creepy AxCrazy look on his face during his duel with Utena. He also acts like he's trying to kill Utena.
* Touga is [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].
** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]].
* Kozue holding a razor to Miki's throat while they're both in the bathtub together and calling him a traitor when he refuses to divulge details of his personal affairs to her.

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** Rather, really they'd been mind raping him the whole time. Now they're just letting him know it.time, since Mikage had been talking to Anthy-as-Mamiya the whole time. Just in the last episode, they start [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech taunting him]] about it before disposing of him.
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** Some of the later shadow girl plays sneak into this territory. There's even a borderline GoryDiscretionShot when one of the shadow girls ''breaks the other one in half''. [[HellIsThatNoise A disturbingly realistic squishy, snapping sound is included, of course]].
** In the movie version, the revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.
** [[HellIsThatNoise The sound of the Ohtori academy bell ringing]].

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** * Some of the later shadow girl plays sneak into this territory. There's even a borderline GoryDiscretionShot when one of the shadow girls ''breaks the other one in half''. [[HellIsThatNoise A disturbingly realistic squishy, snapping sound is included, of course]].
** * In the movie version, the revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.
** * [[HellIsThatNoise The sound of the Ohtori academy bell ringing]].
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* In episode 38 Akio when tries to make Utena his princess Anthy responds with her eyes rolling back in her head as she disappears.

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* In episode 38 when Akio when tries to make Utena his princess Anthy responds with her eyes rolling back in her head as she disappears.disappears. Akio also says that while he and Utena go on to live together as prince and princess Anthy will stay living as the Rose Bride. ''Forever''.



** In episode 39 after stabbing Utena Anthy leans down to coldly whisper into her ear "You remind me so much of Dios when I loved him. But you can never be my prince. Because you're a girl" while we hear the creepy sound of children laughing in the background

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** In episode 39 after stabbing Utena Anthy leans down to coldly whisper into her ear "You remind me so much of Dios when I loved him. But you can never be my prince. Because you're a girl" while we hear the creepy sound of children laughing in the backgroundbackground.
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* In the first episode, Utena recognizes Dios's scent on the Rose Bride. Later, we find out that [[spoiler: Dios became the MagnificentBastard Akio and has been [[RapeIsLove forcing himself]] on his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister, Anthy]] aka the RoseBride.]] It only gets worse when Akio, after having seduced Utena, comments the three of them are [[spoiler: like ''family'']] and [[BrainBleach AFFFGH.]]
** Oh, and there's also the fact that [[spoiler: Akio]], who is ReallySevenHundredYearsOld, is posing as the principal of a high school where he frequently coerces the students into sex in the back of his CoolCar...''while he's driving''. He even slept with three students on-screen and was engaged to one of them (whom he [[spoiler: had POISONED. Again, POOR KANAE.]])!

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* In the first episode, Utena recognizes Dios's scent on the Rose Bride. Later, we find out that [[spoiler: Dios became the MagnificentBastard Akio and has been [[RapeIsLove forcing himself]] on his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister, Anthy]] aka the RoseBride.Rose Bride.]] It only gets worse when Akio, after having seduced Utena, comments the three of them are [[spoiler: like ''family'']] and [[BrainBleach AFFFGH.]]
** Oh, and there's also the fact that [[spoiler: Akio]], who is ReallySevenHundredYearsOld, is posing as the principal of a high school where he frequently coerces the students into sex in the back of his CoolCar...''while he's driving''. He even slept with three students on-screen and was engaged to one of them (whom he [[spoiler: had POISONED. Again, POOR KANAE.poor Kanae.]])!
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Though most of the show is just surreal, some segments have twisted the surreal too far.

* A few moments are quite scary, most of them involving Anthy and Akio.
** Like in the movie a flashback shows that [[spoiler:Akio slipped a drug into his sister Anthy's drink and then took advantage of her sexually]]. This is icky enough, but it then goes on to show that afterwards [[spoiler:he realized that she was awake and began to panic, and wound up stabbing her and then falling out a window to his death]]. Yikes.
* The first real example of nightmare fuel came with the first episode of Black Rose arc, showing us how [[MindRape Mikage and Mamiya recruits the Black Rose Duelists]]. Akio's fiancee Kanae, goes to Nemuro Memorial Hall for her interview. She enters an elevator and, in anguished tears, divulges her attempts to make friends with Anthy as the elevator speeds past strange plaques ([[spoiler:actually mausoleum plots]]). Meanwhile, someone over a loudspeaker tells her to go [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Deeper. Even deeper"]] as the elevator accelerates more and more as it descends. Finally, [[DespairEventHorizon poor Kanae reaches her breaking point]] and Mikage appears behind her from the door, telling her she has no choice but to revolutionize the world. '''And''' then before she can react, Mamiya stabs her in the chest with a black rose. [[TheWoobie Poor Kanae!]]
** Pretty much any time anybody goes into the elevator and crosses the DespairEventHorizon.
*** To add some extra FridgeHorror to that, [[spoiler:the Mamiya we see throughout most of this arc, including this scene, is an illusion acted out by none other than Anthy; in other words, ''Anthy'' is the one who stabbed Kanae!]] Brr.
*** Not to mention you can hear [[spoiler: the 100 dead boys ''kicking around inside their coffins''.]]
** Some of the later shadow girl plays sneak into this territory. There's even a borderline GoryDiscretionShot when one of the shadow girls ''breaks the other one in half''. [[HellIsThatNoise A disturbingly realistic squishy, snapping sound is included, of course]].
** In the movie version, the revelation of [[spoiler:Anthy's scar]] during the nude sketching scene is made all the creepier when you can hear what sounds awfully like a dentist drill.
** [[HellIsThatNoise The sound of the Ohtori academy bell ringing]].
* In the first episode, Utena recognizes Dios's scent on the Rose Bride. Later, we find out that [[spoiler: Dios became the MagnificentBastard Akio and has been [[RapeIsLove forcing himself]] on his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister, Anthy]] aka the RoseBride.]] It only gets worse when Akio, after having seduced Utena, comments the three of them are [[spoiler: like ''family'']] and [[BrainBleach AFFFGH.]]
** Oh, and there's also the fact that [[spoiler: Akio]], who is ReallySevenHundredYearsOld, is posing as the principal of a high school where he frequently coerces the students into sex in the back of his CoolCar...''while he's driving''. He even slept with three students on-screen and was engaged to one of them (whom he [[spoiler: had POISONED. Again, POOR KANAE.]])!
* Utena and Anthy [[FreakyFridayFlip switch bodies]] in one episode. The switch lasts for at least a couple of days, if not a week. And once a week Anthy goes to visit her brother... [[spoiler: Therefore, it's highly likely that Akio got a taste of Utena far earlier than even she thought. And without her consent.]]
* In the movie Saionji gets quite a creepy AxCrazy look on his face during his duel with Utena. He also acts like he's trying to kill Utena.
* In the movie Touga is [[spoiler: raped by his adoptive father]].
** The entire butterfly scene, for that matter. Shiori growing butterfly wings may be beautifully animated, but even besides the obvious fact that all this is combined with a scene of [[spoiler:child rape]], it's creepy how she rants about how much she hates Juri at the same time, [[DissonantSerenity all in]] [[KumikoNishihara the same sugary-sweet voice]] [[DissonantSerenity she always has]].
* Whenever Anthy gets ScaryShinyGlasses and reveals her true not quite so ExtremeDoormat nature. Or just how she's used in a pawn in the duels and [[FateWorseThanDeath her life is something to be used and won and she has to obey whoever she's engaged to no matter what.]]
* Episode 9: Touga and Saionji find a young Utena ''hiding in a coffin'' next to her dead parents (who are in separate coffins). Just something very creepy about it, especially when we learn that Utena has given up on life and is awaiting death, finding it pointless to live if all humans eventually die.
* In episode 12 Utena's HeroicBSOD after her defeat at the hands of Touga.
* Nanami got a kitten for her brother (Touga) for his birthday, but being such a {{Yandere}} for him she ''drowned'' it because it was taking up all Touga's attention.
** Nanami's obsession with Touga is pretty damned creepy.
** Let's not forget the scene where Touga tries to rape Nanami in Akio's car which she fights off and he acts confused because he thought its what she always wanted.
* The scene in episode 3 when Nanami tries to embarrass Anthy by making her dress dissolve. Also, there's also the UncannyValley view of the crowd at the party from Anthy's point of view.
* There's also Kozue who is shown to be rather obsessed with her twin Miki and to grab her brother's attention she exercises loose sexual morals. She's extremely possessive of Miki to the point where she physically hurts anyone who tries to hurt or "steal" him. In the movie she is shown holding a razor to his throat while they're both in the bathtub together and calling him a traitor when he refuses to divulge details of his personal affairs to her.
** In one episode, Miki's piano teacher is hinted to have a less than savoury interest in him, and he's inappropriately touchy-feely with him when they talk. Kozue has clearly noticed, as it later turns out that she'd previously ''shoved the teacher down the stairs for it''.
* Anthy being cursed to be stabbed by the million swords ''for eternity'' and Utena [[spoiler: taking the attack of the million swords in her place.]]
* In episode 37 Anthy casually mentions Cantarella, a deadly poison. In response, Utena comments that she "put a lot of poison" in Anthy's tea.
** In the same episode there's also [[spoiler: Anthy trying to commit suicide by jumping off a building]]. Thankfully, Utena saves her.
* Anthy and Akio are siblings but they [[BrotherSisterIncest regularly have semi-consensual sex]], and its hinted that [[RapeAsDrama Akio often uses force in order to get his way]].
** Nanami rightly has a HeroicBSOD after finding this out and says that [[StrangeGirl Anthy scares her.]] Anthy's response is to say perfectly pleasant: "I do? Thanks so much!"
** Anthy's subsequent shaving of the shaved ice with a massive chainsaw.
** Utena also has a BreakTheCutie moment after finding this out.
* In episode 38 Akio when tries to make Utena his princess Anthy responds with her eyes rolling back in her head as she disappears.
** In episode 38 Anthy appears to give Utena a CooldownHug from behind but actually [[spoiler: stabs her in the back with a black sword that she didn't have before]].
** In episode 39 after stabbing Utena Anthy leans down to coldly whisper into her ear "You remind me so much of Dios when I loved him. But you can never be my prince. Because you're a girl" while we hear the creepy sound of children laughing in the background
* And the sex scene between [[spoiler: Akio and Utena]] in episode 33, seeing as how she's thirteen/fourteen years old and he's way older than her, plus the dubious consent and...topic of discussion. You won't be thinking of sandwiches the same way again for a good while afterwards. All the more nightmarish when you see her ''gasping in pain''.
** Honestly, though, while Akio looks like a very attractive guy, just about all of his relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them.
* Kozue and Anthy's car scene in episode 26 is kind of creepy, since out of nowhere Kozue appears to start seducing a blank-faced Anthy in the car - in the middle of Miki's duel.
* The way Souji Mikage and Mamiya Chida recruit the Black Rose Duelists, preying on people who are at the lowest points of their lives and using their insecurities to make them join the Black Rose cause.
* Akio and Anthy (who was actually posing as poor Mamiya) inflicting a MindRape on Mikage himself in the end of the Black Rose arc.
* Speaking of that arc, there's the way the Black Rose duellists draw swords from the student council members, complete with intensely creepy sexual subtext. The most notable ones are [[spoiler:Shiori drawing Juri's sword]] (it's pulled out very slowly - perhaps sadistically so, depending on who you ask), [[spoiler:Wakaba drawing Saionji's sword]] (she suddenly dashes forward and pulls it out ''with her own hands!''), and [[spoiler:Keiko drawing Touga's sword]] (which is mostly just extremely sexualised).
* Also, in the first arc when Anthy's alone in the classroom singing that bunnies all in a row or whatever song and doing the thing with her hands.
* For me, the creepiest moment has to be in Nanami's first Akio Arc Duel Episode, Her Tragedy, when Anthy is spoon-feeding Akio shaved ice. Most specifically, in the original Japanese when she says -
--> Anthy: Oniisama, the inside of your mouth is all blue.
** Note that during his scene there is no dramatic camera angles or focusing in on Anthy when this happens (such as when she is giving one of her little signature smiles). For all it looks like, the situation looks completely normal, with no ominous visual clues that remind you that it is all a facade. The niceness isn't even overdone to the point where you know it's fake because of how cheesy and forced it comes off as. Unlike the scene where Anthy smiles at Akio after having sex, if someone with no previous SKU experience watched this scene, they would be unable to tell that Anthy's submissive behavior is empty.
** No, the real creepiness in this part of SKU comes from the fact that it is one of Anthy's best moments of acting -and for an incredibly sinister purpose; to torment Nanami into dueling by twisting and misleading her in regards to her views on siblings, princes and princesses, and sex. How fucking '''destroyed''' inside you have to be to do that?
* Anytime Saionji gets pissed really.
** That time he tried to attack Utena but Touga showed up to protect her and took the attack instead.
*** Worse when you realize WHY Touga did it: [[spoiler: to turn everyone against Saionji and get him kicked out of Ohtori. And he's doing this to '''his best friend'''. Saionji is a JerkAss, but what the HELL Touga.]]
* Episode 30 when Anthy gets ScaryShinyGlasses and the lights on the candle go out. And then when she holds it while watching Utena and Akio make out in the car and suddenly disappears...
* "Dios" [[spoiler: or actually, Akio pretending to be Dios]] insulting Utena in the lowest way possible [[spoiler: right after he and Anthy have betrayed her, she's just been stabbed by her best friend, and Anthy is facing horrific torture right before her eyes. "Dios" proceeds to tell Utena how she did well ''for a girl'' and how she wouldn't be able to do anything with the power of miracles, unless ''he'' controlled it. Worse yet, he gives her a kiss "in gratitude" while wearing this sadistic little ''smile''.]]
** Similarly, that "Dios" talking to Utena as a child [[spoiler: was ''also'' Akio, manipulating and traumatizing this little girl just so he could shape her into a prince, fully intending to disempower her later, all to regain the power to revolutionize the world.]]
*** And finally, there's a theory that [[spoiler: Akio killed Utena's parents. Can't get more monstrous than that. They died ''in a car crash''. And whose symbolism is most prominently cars?]]

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