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** And then we have the last warlord: [[TheStarscream Christopher Columbus]]. We are used to many Servants with nasty historical reputations [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade being downplayed in FGO]] for the sake of making the characters more likable. Columbus is NOT one such example. He's [[CardCarryingVillain shamelessly evil]], [[WeHaveReserves thinks nothing of throwing away the lives of his Resistance soldiers]], (in fact his idea of "encouraging" his men is to set their hidden sanctuary on fire at night so they'll fight with utter desperation. And then there's [[NightmareFace the expressions he makes]] once his true nature is revealed. And to top it all off,

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** And then we have the last warlord: [[TheStarscream Christopher Columbus]]. We are used to many Servants with nasty historical reputations [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade being downplayed in FGO]] for the sake of making the characters more likable. Columbus is NOT one such example. He's [[CardCarryingVillain shamelessly evil]], [[WeHaveReserves thinks nothing of throwing away the lives of his Resistance soldiers]], (in fact his idea of "encouraging" his men is to set their hidden sanctuary on fire at night so they'll fight with utter desperation. And then there's [[NightmareFace the expressions he makes]] once his true nature is revealed. And to top it all off,off, his ultimate goal is to form a slave-trading empire based on the magical reproduction of the Agarthan women to make himself unfathomably rich and satisfy his desire to dominate as a Conquistador.

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** Kingdom number three is comprised of the Amazons of El Dorado. The many warrior women of the Amazons can unleash a very nasty war cry [[HellIsThatNoise which can be genuinely painful to listen to]] and weakens their enemies' abilities. Their leader is Penthesilea, their Queen during the Trojan War. Penthesilea is a [[TheBerserker Berserker]] whose [[PowerBornOfMadness Madness Enhancement]] is [[ReadingsAreOffTheScale EX rank]] for one very big reason: [[InnocentlyInsensitive Achilles]]. Penth [[GracefulLoser didn't mind falling at the hands of mighty warrior]], but was [[BerserkButton ABSOLUTELY LIVID]] when the only thing he commented on after striking her down was [[AmazonianBeauty her unexpected beauty]]. Since then she's become so hellbent on getting revenge against Achilles [[SanitySlippage she will start to hallucinate]] almost any man she sees as BEING Achilles, and proceed to kill them. Then there's her Noble Phantasm, [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Outrage Amazon]]. She proceeds to pounce on her enemy, viciously slashing them with her metal claws, then [[ManBitesMan chomping down on them]] with a nasty splash of blood. All the while, she goes from [[MadnessMantra muttering the word "kill" over and over]], to [[ScreamingWarrior howling her damn lungs out]] in genuinely unsettling fashion, capped off with either a wordless howl or a scream of her enemy's hated name:
-->''*ACHILLES!!!*''
** And then we have the last warlord: [[TheStarscream Christopher Columbus]]. We are used to many Servants with nasty historical reputations [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade being downplayed in FGO]] for the sake of making the characters more likable. Columbus is NOT one such example. He's [[CardCarryingVillain shamelessly evil]], [[WeHaveReserves thinks nothing of throwing away the lives of his Resistance soldiers]], (in fact his idea of "encouraging" his men is to set their hidden sanctuary on fire at night so they'll fight with utter desperation. And then there's [[NightmareFace the expressions he makes]] once his true nature is revealed. And to top it all off,
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!!"Pseudo-Singularity II: Women of Agartha."
*The premise of the three kingdoms of [[LadyLand Agartha]] and the four tyrants controlling the different regions are each a different flavor of unpleasant.
** Kingdom number one is Ys, a [[WretchedHive pirate paradise]], where everyone "takes whatever they want, but never WANT whatever they take." This essentially boils down to [[TheHedonist a kingdom FULL of hedonists]] whose idea of a joke is [[HumanPincushion using a poor slave as a living dartboard]]. The winner of this nasty little game celebrates joyfully when her final toss [[EyeScream nails the poor bastard RIGHT IN HIS EYEBALL]]. Their leader Dahut happens to be a possessed Francis Drake. Gone is the [[LovableRogue lovable rapscallion]] who happily aided Fujimaru and company in Okeanos, and in her place is [[AxCrazy a bloodthirsty pirate queen]] with no regard for the lives of others, [[BadBoss including her subordinates]].
** The second kingdom is the Nightless City, ruled by Wu Zetian. The place is in full [[BigBrotherIsWatching 1984 mode]], where [[ParanoiaFuel every male citizen is so damn paranoid]] they will turn on others at the slightest opportunity to avoid earning the ire of Wu's terrifying executioners. Wu herself is [[TortureTechnician an avid fan of torture]], having personally written a codex detailing the subject that serves as her Noble Phantasm. The animation has her dunking the opponent into a cauldron of something resembling acid. Ouch.
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** '''Morgan herself.''' Her PHH version was already a genius magus on par with the current Grand Caster Merlin. Her ''Lostbelt'' version is so peerless that even the Chaldean, the spitting image of Solomon who was [[TheArchmage the greatest magus to ever live]], outright praises her works, which include ''TimeTravel, reconstructing a Divine Construct, and turning her Lostbelt into a world independent of the Tree of Emptiness''. Everyone who knows this woman's name [[TheDreaded absolutely dreads the thought of facing her]], and they're completely right to. When the time finally comes to raid her castle, Chaldea has fought an uphill battle throughout the whole Lostbelt and has a shot at handily defeating Morgan's army... only for her to come out and prove she never ''needed'' the army: after the [[ThatOneBoss already-hellish boss fight]] with her, it turns out she was ActuallyADoombot and '''ten other''' Morgan clones have completely flattened the army Chaldea is running with, and then [[HopelessBossFight three of them do the same with Chaldea itself]]. No EleventhHourSuperpower, no DeusExMachina, no BigDamnHeroes -- '''Morgan defeated Chaldea completely and utterly.''' The only reason they weren't finished off was because she was stabbed in the back.

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** '''Morgan herself.''' Her PHH version was already a genius magus on par with the current Grand Caster Merlin. Her ''Lostbelt'' version is so peerless that even the Chaldean, the spitting image of Solomon who was [[TheArchmage the greatest magus to ever live]], outright praises her works, which include ''TimeTravel, reconstructing a Divine Construct, and turning her Lostbelt into a world independent of the Tree of Emptiness''. Everyone who knows this woman's name [[TheDreaded absolutely dreads the thought of facing her]], and they're completely right to. When the time finally comes to raid her castle, Chaldea has fought an uphill battle throughout the whole Lostbelt and has a shot at handily defeating Morgan's army... only for her to come out and prove she never ''needed'' the army: after the [[ThatOneBoss already-hellish boss fight]] with her, it turns out she was ActuallyADoombot and '''ten other''' Morgan clones have completely flattened the army Chaldea is running with, and then [[HopelessBossFight three of them do the same with Chaldea itself]]. No ambiguity, EleventhHourSuperpower, no DeusExMachina, no BigDamnHeroes -- '''Morgan defeated Chaldea completely and utterly.''' The only reason they weren't finished off was because she was stabbed in the back.back at that exact moment.

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** Then there's Morgan's ultimate defeat. Aurora tricks Woodwose, Morgan's right hand man, into thinking that she has betrayed him, causing an uprising of the fae against her. Then Spriggan forces Morgan to surrender by revealing he has her daughter, Baobhan Sith/Fae Knight Tristan hostage, which leaves her open to an ''absolutely horrific and brutal'' beating from the fae. Poor Morgan can only weakly beg to return to her throne as she's savagely beaten to death. And Baobhan Sith herself? She wasn't a hostage, she was ''already nearly dead''; the traitors were carrying her rotting, barely alive body and made her watch them kill her adoptive mother before throwing her into The Great Pit like trash, so Morgan let herself be killed for nothing.

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** '''Morgan herself.''' Her PHH version was already a genius magus on par with the current Grand Caster Merlin. Her ''Lostbelt'' version is so peerless that even the Chaldean, the spitting image of Solomon who was [[TheArchmage the greatest magus to ever live]], outright praises her works, which include ''TimeTravel, reconstructing a Divine Construct, and turning her Lostbelt into a world independent of the Tree of Emptiness''. Everyone who knows this woman's name [[TheDreaded absolutely dreads the thought of facing her]], and they're completely right to. When the time finally comes to raid her castle, Chaldea has fought an uphill battle throughout the whole Lostbelt and has a shot at handily defeating Morgan's army... only for her to come out and prove she never ''needed'' the army: after the [[ThatOneBoss already-hellish boss fight]] with her, it turns out she was ActuallyADoombot and '''ten other''' Morgan clones have completely flattened the army Chaldea is running with, and then [[HopelessBossFight three of them do the same with Chaldea itself]]. No EleventhHourSuperpower, no DeusExMachina, no BigDamnHeroes -- '''Morgan defeated Chaldea completely and utterly.''' The only reason they weren't finished off was because she was stabbed in the back.
** Then there's the backstab in question, which is equally horrific from Morgan's ultimate defeat.side. Aurora tricks Woodwose, Morgan's right hand man, into thinking that she has betrayed him, causing an uprising of the fae against her. Then Spriggan forces Morgan to surrender by revealing he has her daughter, Baobhan Sith/Fae Knight Tristan hostage, which leaves her open to an ''absolutely horrific and brutal'' beating from the fae. Poor Morgan can only weakly beg to return to her throne as she's savagely beaten to death. And Baobhan Sith herself? She wasn't a hostage, she was ''already nearly dead''; the traitors were carrying her rotting, barely alive body and made her watch them kill her adoptive mother before throwing her into The Great Pit like trash, so Morgan let herself be killed for nothing.



** The Elder God-possessed Servant in question is Abigail (Summer), and it serves as an effective reminder of how ''scary'' the original Foreigner is when she's got her game on. This adorable little Puritan girl is still a Lovecraftian horror in her own right, and the nature of the event's Singularity treats her as such -- as in, [[CosmicHorrorStory you can't defeat a Lovecraftian horror]]. And she uses her invulnerability and her power over dreams liberally, only hemmed in by her affection for the Protagonist and her turf war with the event's ''other'' antagonist (''a former Beast''!). Worst of all, she not only has a serious chip on her shoulder for Servants, but unlike her maddened stint in Salem she actually has ''valid reasons'' to want your Servants dead that they can't even properly refute (reasons that almost turned out prophetic in Lostbelt 7, as the Protagonist was almost killed by mana drain from summoning too many Servants). The threat she poses is unnaturally extreme for a Summer event, and the Protagonist calming her down and reaffirming their trust is the only reason the story didn't end right there.



** The sheer scope of Kama's plan when they're finally revealed. Her entire plan revolved around luring the player into the Ooku and corrupting them with her "love", and she comes pretty damn close to doing it. Her XanatosGambit pretty much ensured that she'd win no matter what actions they took. Had it not been for overlooking one specific detail, she would have won flat out. She's by far, the closest any antagonist has come to defeating Chaldea.

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** The sheer scope of Kama's plan when they're finally revealed. Her entire plan revolved around luring the player into the Ooku and corrupting them with her "love", and she comes pretty damn close to doing it. Her XanatosGambit pretty much ensured that she'd win no matter what actions they took. Had it not been for overlooking one specific detail, she would have won flat out. She's by far, Until Morgan came along, Kama was the closest any antagonist has come to defeating Chaldea.
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* The Alien God wasn't able to awaken properly due to Wodime messing with the Tree of Emptiness intended to serve as a vessel, so a stronger Saint Graph is required. The problem, of course, is that no Saint Graph from Earth would be enough... which is why Rasputin intends to pay a visit to the Ultimate One slumbering in the South American Lostbelt. Or in other words, the single most powerful entity in the Solar System in terms of raw might - '''The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud: ORT'''

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* The Alien God wasn't able to awaken properly due to Wodime messing with the Tree of Emptiness intended to serve as a vessel, so a stronger Saint Graph is required. The problem, of course, is that no Saint Graph from Earth would be enough... which is why Rasputin intends to pay a visit to the Ultimate One slumbering in the South American Lostbelt. Or in other words, the single most powerful entity in the Solar System in terms of raw might - '''The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud: ORT'''ORT.'''
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* The Alien God wasn't able to awaken properly due to Wodime messing with the Tree of Emptiness intended to serve as a vessel, so a stronger Saint Graph is required. The problem, of course, is that no Saint Graph from Earth would be enough... which is why Rasputin intends to pay a visit to the Ultimate One slumbering in the South American Lostbelt. Or in other words, the single most powerful entity in the Solar System in terms of raw might - '''The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud: O.R.T.'''

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* The Alien God wasn't able to awaken properly due to Wodime messing with the Tree of Emptiness intended to serve as a vessel, so a stronger Saint Graph is required. The problem, of course, is that no Saint Graph from Earth would be enough... which is why Rasputin intends to pay a visit to the Ultimate One slumbering in the South American Lostbelt. Or in other words, the single most powerful entity in the Solar System in terms of raw might - '''The Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud: O.R.T.'''ORT'''



* After years of hype and some extra foreshadowing in ''Grand Order'', it's finally happened: '''we've come face-to-face with O.R.T.'''.

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* After years of hype and some extra foreshadowing in ''Grand Order'', it's finally happened: '''we've come face-to-face with O.R.T.'''.ORT'''.



** The fight itself. [[HopelessBossFight "Hopeless" doesn't even begin to describe it, and it does a pretty good job of impressing this on the player.]] 1 million HP out of the gate doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary compared to what we've faced so far, but what's this little cluster icon under O.R.T.'s HP bar? Deplete the 1 million HP, and you'll see that it's a new icon for a Break Bar that obscures another ''nine'' -- this thing has '''ten break bars''', and the one you just broke fills O.R.T.'s HP up to ''10'' million.[[note]]For the record, getting through the 10 million has been done, only for O.R.T.'s next bar to be '''100''' million.[[/note]] Even U-Olga Marie, who you ''thought'' was going to be the ultimate enemy of the story that can create black holes on a whim, takes a swing at O.R.T. to no avail.

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** The fight itself. [[HopelessBossFight "Hopeless" doesn't even begin to describe it, and it does a pretty good job of impressing this on the player.]] 1 million HP out of the gate doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary compared to what we've faced so far, but what's this little cluster icon under O.R.T.'s ORT's HP bar? Deplete the 1 million HP, and you'll see that it's a new icon for a Break Bar that obscures another ''nine'' -- this thing has '''ten break bars''', and the one you just broke fills O.R.T.'s ORT's HP up to ''10'' million.[[note]]For the record, getting through the 10 million has been done, only for O.R.T.'s ORT's next bar to be '''100''' million.[[/note]] Even U-Olga Marie, who you ''thought'' was going to be the ultimate enemy of the story that can create black holes on a whim, takes a swing at O.R.T. ORT to no avail.



** When O.R.T. defeats a Servant, it does something special to them: it converts them into green crystal that it then consumes (though Mash retreats). For now [[NothingIsScarier we have no idea why]], but your Servants don't even get to say their defeat lines before being absorbed into O.R.T.. Now try imagining being there as your Servant (especially your favourite) meets a horrific FateWorseThanDeath, especially if you're going in blind. Can you hear them screaming for you?
** O.R.T. is only Lv.1. This might seem funny at a glance, until you realize that most of the victories Chaldea has had against godlike and/or eldritch entities involved finding a way to ''weaken'' them... but again, O.R.T. is Lv.1. It can't ''be'' any weaker and it's still treating the memetically-godslaying Chaldea like little more than an annoying fly to be swatted.

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** When O.R.T. ORT defeats a Servant, it does something special to them: it converts them into green crystal that it then consumes (though Mash retreats). For now [[NothingIsScarier we have no idea why]], but your Servants don't even get to say their defeat lines before being absorbed into O.R.T..ORT. Now try imagining being there as your Servant (especially your favourite) meets a horrific FateWorseThanDeath, especially if you're going in blind. Can you hear them screaming for you?
** O.R.T. ORT is only Lv.1. This might seem funny at a glance, until you realize that most of the victories Chaldea has had against godlike and/or eldritch entities involved finding a way to ''weaken'' them... but again, O.R.T. ORT is Lv.1. It can't ''be'' any weaker and it's still treating the memetically-godslaying Chaldea like little more than an annoying fly to be swatted.
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** After the defeat of the Lostbelt King Morgan, Oberon finally revealed his true nature to the players: He destroyed Fae Britain? Before you cheer that [[KickTheSonOfABitch he just destroyed that land of shit...]] he just declared that he found a way to Proper Human History and [[OmnicidalManiac will do the same destruction to it.]] At that point, you're horrified not because the Lostbelt is in utter shambles... but because it can happen to ''your'' human history if you don't stop Oberon.

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** After the defeat of the Lostbelt King Morgan, Oberon finally revealed his true nature to the players: He destroyed Fae Britain? Before you cheer that [[KickTheSonOfABitch [[AssholeVictim he just destroyed that land of shit...]] he just declared that he found a way to Proper Human History and [[OmnicidalManiac will do the same destruction to it.]] At that point, you're horrified not because the Lostbelt is in utter shambles... but because it can happen to ''your'' human history if you don't stop Oberon.
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*** The kicker of this? It's not his Vortigern side that initially desired the destruction of Proper Human History since his job ends when Faerie Britain is gone, but his ''Oberon'' persona that grew hateful of how the Lostbelts were tossed aside like trash for the benefit of Proper Human History. So if at this point you have been cheering for the end of this lostbelt, [[YouBastard keep in mind that Oberon-Vortigern feels that same way about destroying our history.]]


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* As continuation of above, Beryl showed himself to be one of the most horrific and twisted characters in the Nasuverse, not just because of his antics and backstabbing but because his character is [[RealismInducedHorror eerily accurate on how actual serial killers and sexual offenders think and behave]].
* On a similar note, Aurora herself provides her own dose of RealismInducedHorror by showcasing how utterly delusional and sociopathic narcissists like her can be when they can get away from the consequences of their actions all the time.

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