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* CutAndPasteTranslation: The US release of "Viva Dead Ponies" added "Blues For Ceausescu" and "Only Losers Take The Bus (Dump The Dead)" but dropped "Thursday".
** Similarly, the US release of "Lost In The Former West" added "Something Bad" and "Go Home Bible Mike" from the previous album "Valhalla Avenue" (which hadn't seen a US release), but dropped "Sunken Cities".
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* RegionalBonus: The German CD/Cassette version of "Valhalla Avenue" has 6 bonus tracks added, these being two tracks that had appeared on the US Viva Dead Ponies ("Blues For Ceausescu" and "Only Losers Take The Bus [Dump The Dead]"), two tracks from the UK-only "Bertie's Brochures" mini-LP ("Behind The Moon" and "Shiny Happy People") and two tracks from the Hive EP ("Hive" and "Stigmata").
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After the split of {Music/Microdisney} , Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a top ten single with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You", which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).


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After the split of {Music/Microdisney} , Music/{{Microdisney}}, Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a top ten single with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You", which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).

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After the split of {Music/Microdisney} , Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a number one single, with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' Everything I Do I Do It For You, which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).


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After the split of {Music/Microdisney} , Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a number one single, top ten single with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' Everything "(Everything I Do Do) I Do It For You, You", which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).

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After the split of Music/Microdisney, Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a number one single, with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' Everything I Do I Do It For You, which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).


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After the split of Music/Microdisney, {Music/Microdisney} , Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a number one single, with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' Everything I Do I Do It For You, which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).



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* GreatestHitsAlbum: The 2007 Reissue of Viva Dead Ponies had one as a bonus disc, omitting any tracks that were on the main album. Seemingly, the label couldn't afford to reissue all of the albums as Cathal wanted, so this was done as a compromise.


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* RegionalBonus: The German CD/Cassette version of "Valhalla Avenue" has 6 bonus tracks added, these being two tracks that had appeared on the US Viva Dead Ponies ("Blues For Ceausescu" and "Only Losers Take The Bus [Dump The Dead]"), two tracks from the UK-only "Bertie's Brochures" mini-LP ("Behind The Moon" and "Shiny Happy People") and two tracks from the Hive EP ("Hive" and "Stigmata").
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* NeverLiveItDown: An infamous onstage incident in Milan. Whilst supporting U2 (who had invited the group to tour with them), Cathal insulted the pope whilst miming shoving a statue of the Virgin Mary up his behind. This resulted in the group getting booed offstage and armed guards being called. Even though there's no actual video footage of the incident, it still comes up in discussions of the band to this day.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Peter Buck of Music/REM found the Mansions' bizarre cover of "Shiny Happy People" amusing, particularly because he had grown to dislike the song for the way its ironic lyrics were often taken at face value. It helped that he was already a fan of Cathal's work.
* BlackSheepHit: By a fluke, their version of "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" was a Number 1 single in the UK, because of its positioning as a double A-Side with the far better known ManicStreetPreachers version of "Suicide Is Painless". The cover of Everything I Do is almost done in an avant-garde jazz style.



* CutSong: "What", "The Door To Door Inspector" and "Bertie's Brochures" were all recorded for "Against Nature" and are present on an inhouse rough mixes tape, but were left off and rerecorded for future releases. Conversely, that tape doesn't feature either "Wilderness On Time" or "Big Madness / Monday Club Carol", suggesting that the songs may have been dropped to make room for them.



* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: You can only hear the original songs "Market Forces Sweetheart", "Desperate" and "It Will Be Cold" on bootlegs, because none were deemed good enough to record for albums (although, the latter at least had a Peel Session).



* NoExportForYou: You can only get "Sleep Of The Just" on a US-exclusive "Popemobile" promo EP. The song was supposed to come out as a b-side in the UK, but the single was cancelled.
* OldShame: Cathal's reaction to some of the material and his personality during the period. Even at the time, he quickly came to feel this about the live-only song "Desperate", which he dropped very fast and never recorded.
* OutOfOrder: In terms of songwriting, Cathal wrote and played live "Behind The Moon", "Bertie's Brochures" and "The Door To Door Inspector" before "Against Nature", but they all came out well over a year afterwards.
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After the split of Music/Microdisney, Cathal Coughlan formed The Fatima Mansions. Initially, the group continued in a similar vein to Microdisney, but rapidly became influenced by noise rock and shock value. They unwittingly had a number one single, with their deranged reworking of Bryan Adams' Everything I Do I Do It For You, which happened to be a double A-Side with the ManicStreetPreachers cover of "Suicide Is Painless" (the song which the public actually bought the single for).


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* TheAlcoholic: "Behind The Moon" is a particularly gorgeous song about the life of an alcoholic and how he alienates everyone around him.
* ApprovalOfGod: Peter Buck of Music/REM found the Mansions' bizarre cover of "Shiny Happy People" amusing, particularly because he had grown to dislike the song for the way its ironic lyrics were often taken at face value. It helped that he was already a fan of Cathal's work.
* BlackSheepHit: By a fluke, their version of "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" was a Number 1 single in the UK, because of its positioning as a double A-Side with the far better known ManicStreetPreachers version of "Suicide Is Painless". The cover of Everything I Do is almost done in an avant-garde jazz style.
* CoverVersion: Most famously, Bryan Adams' "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" and REM's "Shiny Happy People", but they covered songs by people as diverse as Scott Walker, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Suicide, Ministry and the Velvet Underground.
* CutAndPasteTranslation: The US release of "Viva Dead Ponies" added "Blues For Ceausescu" and "Only Losers Take The Bus (Dump The Dead)" but dropped "Thursday".
** Similarly, the US release of "Lost In The Former West" added "Something Bad" and "Go Home Bible Mike" from the previous album "Valhalla Avenue" (which hadn't seen a US release), but dropped "Sunken Cities".
* CutSong: "What", "The Door To Door Inspector" and "Bertie's Brochures" were all recorded for "Against Nature" and are present on an inhouse rough mixes tape, but were left off and rerecorded for future releases. Conversely, that tape doesn't feature either "Wilderness On Time" or "Big Madness / Monday Club Carol", suggesting that the songs may have been dropped to make room for them.
* DarkerAndEdgier: Beginning with "Blues For Ceausescu", the band made a blatant shift to a noise-rock sound that somewhat fit in with the popular grunge movement of the day.
* DerivativeDifferentiation: The band still sounded a lot like Microdisney in their first couple of years, and they even included "Back To The Old Town" and "Loftholdingswood" in their sets. Cathal grew to feel this was typecasting him as something of a has-been, and purposefully changed direction to a rockier sound.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: You can only hear the original songs "Market Forces Sweetheart", "Desperate" and "It Will Be Cold" on bootlegs, because none were deemed good enough to record for albums (although, the latter at least had a Peel Session).
* MeaningfulRename: The group went through a few names - first simply as a Cathal Coughlan solo project, then changed it to "Freedom Association", then "Fatima Gardens", and finally "Fatima Mansions", the latter which was named after a deprived housing estate in Ireland.
* MoodWhiplash: He liked to do this particularly on the "Viva Dead Ponies" album, where songs like "Angel's Delight" and "Broken Radio No. 1" have the tranquil music punctuated at points by screeching noise rock.
* NeverLiveItDown: An infamous onstage incident in Milan. Whilst supporting U2 (who had invited the group to tour with them), Cathal insulted the pope whilst miming shoving a statue of the Virgin Mary up his behind. This resulted in the group getting booed offstage and armed guards being called. Even though there's no actual video footage of the incident, it still comes up in discussions of the band to this day.
* NoExportForYou: You can only get "Sleep Of The Just" on a US-exclusive "Popemobile" promo EP. The song was supposed to come out as a b-side in the UK, but the single was cancelled.
* OldShame: Cathal's reaction to some of the material and his personality during the period. Even at the time, he quickly came to feel this about the live-only song "Desperate", which he dropped very fast and never recorded.
* OutOfOrder: In terms of songwriting, Cathal wrote and played live "Behind The Moon", "Bertie's Brochures" and "The Door To Door Inspector" before "Against Nature", but they all came out well over a year afterwards.
* RearrangeTheSong: The original 1990 Peel Session version of "Broken Radio" has a much slower and dramatic arrangement compared to the poppy version on the following year's "Viva Dead Ponies" album.
** "Only Losers Take The Bus (Dump The Dead)" is a rerecording of the song done for the US market that has a more prominent beat.
* RefugeInAudacity: This seemed to be the band's primary reason for existing.
* SurprisinglyGentleSong: "Sleep Of The Just" particularly stands out as it is a very mellow waltz, released when most of their material had become much heavier.
* Synthpop: He dabbled in it, such as on "13th Century Boy", which sounds a lot like {Music/PetShopBoys}, "Broken Radio No. 1" which almost sounds like early Microdisney (albeit with a cheap Casio synth), and "Thursday", which is almost early 90s rave music.
* TakeThat: "Only Losers Take The Bus" is supposedly a phrase that a politician of the day stated (this possibly being Margaret Thatcher, but it's unconfirmed).
* UpdatedRelease: A deluxe edition of "Against Nature" was released under the name "Come Back My Children", which adds 7 extra tracks that were recorded in the period between that album and their second, "Viva Dead Ponies". It's notable for being the only CD release of "What?".

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