History Music / TheBeatles

15th Jul '16 7:28:21 PM JakesBrain
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** Paul has explicitly said that "if there was a fifth Beatle, it was Brian." The speed with which things began to go downhill for the band after Epstein's death seems to support this theory.
15th Jul '16 5:12:45 PM JakesBrain
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Once Brian Epstein died in 1967, the writing was on the wall for the Beatles. Ringo Starr briefly quit during the making of ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'', and George Harrison did the same during the ''Music/LetItBe'' sessions. Finally, John Lennon quit for good in September 1969. The band broke up in 1970 under [[CreativeDifferences circumstances painful to think about]]. Everyone went on to solo careers of varying success, most notably [=McCartney=] with Music/{{Wings}}. The dissolution was finalized in 1974, but Apple Corps (the Beatles' management company) was left intact. For perhaps fifteen years, few people saw any purpose for that...

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Once manager Brian Epstein died in 1967, the writing was on the wall for the Beatles. Ringo Starr briefly quit during the making of ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'', and George Harrison did the same during the ''Music/LetItBe'' sessions. Finally, John Lennon quit for good in September 1969. The band broke up in 1970 under [[CreativeDifferences circumstances painful to think about]]. Everyone went on to solo careers of varying success, most notably [=McCartney=] with Music/{{Wings}}. The dissolution was finalized in 1974, but Apple Corps (the Beatles' management company) was left intact. For perhaps fifteen years, few people saw any purpose for that...
8th Jul '16 2:50:16 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}: Three of the four Beatles came from Irish immigrant families on at least one side, Ringo being the only 100% Englishman among them; Paul is the only one who was Irish on both sides. John and Paul even professed their love for Ireland during their solo years; John had "Luck of the Irish" and "Sunday, Bloody Sunday", and Paul had "Give Ireland Back to the Irish", although none of them are exactly crowning moments of anything.



* UsefulNotes/NationalHealthService:
** Referenced in "Doctor Robert" (and also some of John's improv in their early work in UsefulNotes/{{Hamburg}}).
** Those glasses that Lennon made famous in the 1960s? Standard-issue National Health glasses.



* UsefulNotes/ThePoppy: "Behind the shelter in the middle of a roundabout/A pretty nurse is selling poppies from a tray..."
8th Jul '16 2:49:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* MentorOccupationalHazard: Manager Brian Epstein, who died shortly after ''Sgt. Pepper''. Doubly subverted, as Epstein's death didn't cause the band to become more mature; instead, his absence left a vacuum which led to their eventual breakup.



* TheObiWan: Manager Brian Epstein, who died shortly after ''Sgt. Pepper''. Doubly subverted, as Epstein's death didn't cause the band to become more mature; instead, his absence left a vacuum which led to their eventual breakup.
3rd Jul '16 1:40:27 PM gewunomox
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** "Back in the U.S.S.R." is not only in the style of Music/ChuckBerry, but also a striking parody of TheBeachBoys (who themselves took flak for an earlier InTheStyleOf of Mr. Berry).

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** "Back in the U.S.S.R." is not only in the style of Music/ChuckBerry, but also a striking parody of TheBeachBoys The Beach Boys (who themselves took flak for an earlier InTheStyleOf of Mr. Berry).
20th Jun '16 7:46:07 PM AceDetective
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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: John was the Cynic (slowly became the Apathetic by the end of his career as a Beatle), Paul is the Optimist, George was the Cynic, and Ringo is the Realist.

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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: John was the Cynic Optimist (slowly became the Apathetic by the end of his career as a Beatle), Paul is the Optimist, George was the Cynic, and Ringo is the Realist.
20th Jun '16 1:35:27 PM gewunomox
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** Julian's younger half-brother Sean did better, at least from an artistic POV. Sean's 1998 indie rock effort ''Into the Sun'' was different enough from not only Julian's more pop efforts, but also the works of [[Music/{{Oasis}} a certain other band who played the same genre as him]] who were endlessly indebted to his father, that it wound up being very well received. Sean reportedly shopped around the world for a record label that cared about his music and not his family name, and found it in BeastieBoys' label Grand Royal.

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** Julian's younger half-brother Sean did better, at least from an artistic POV. Sean's 1998 indie rock effort ''Into the Sun'' was different enough from not only Julian's more pop efforts, but also the works of [[Music/{{Oasis}} a certain other band who played the same genre as him]] who were endlessly indebted to his father, that it wound up being very well received. Sean reportedly shopped around the world for a record label that cared about his music and not his family name, and found it in BeastieBoys' Music/BeastieBoys' label Grand Royal.
19th Jun '16 12:04:59 PM AceDetective
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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: John was the Optimist (slowly became the Apathetic by the end of his career as a Beatle), Paul is also the Optimist, George was the Cynic, and Ringo is the Realist.

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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: John was the Optimist Cynic (slowly became the Apathetic by the end of his career as a Beatle), Paul is also the Optimist, George was the Cynic, and Ringo is the Realist.
16th Jun '16 2:07:51 PM livestockgeorge
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* {{Bifauxnen}}: "Well you should see Polythene Pam/She's so good-looking but she looks like a man..."

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* {{Bifauxnen}}: "Well you should see Polythene Pam/She's so good-looking but that she looks like a man..."
27th May '16 1:11:21 PM GranChi
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* FourTemperamentEnsemble:
** [[BrokenAce John]] was Supine because of his passive-aggressive and idealistic nature along with his tendency to be cynical and melodramatic at sporadic moments. He was especially very witty and had his moments of having his head in the clouds. Although he's considered to be very shy and quiet, he could be a loudmouth and say things he never meant to say. He was once considered by a reporter as lazy and disorganized. He also had moments where he would have random anger outbursts, but was able to forgive and forget. He was an impatient, naive, and highly insecure man of extremes who would hide behind an overly aggressive and cruel facade in front of others (mostly people he's familiar with), then privately be very unsure of himself. He had a habit of exaggerating his own accomplishments and being vain, arrogant, and a narcissist. He seemed to have a strong need to fit in with trends despite trying to come off as rebellious and constantly changed outlooks on life, along with his appearance, like a chameleon (teddy boy, hippie culture, antiwar activism, etc.). Despite being one of the biggest optimists about the band when it first started, he was classified as the agitator in the band since he was an asshole to a lot of people (including his family and friends). After he made the "BiggerThanJesus" remark and received a lot of backlash, he became increasingly neurotic and apathetic about almost everything. He, with the help of Yoko, played a big part in trying to sabotage the band (much to Paul's dismay).
** [[HotBlooded Paul]] is Melancholic because of his hard-working and driven nature yet conservative and uptight personality. According to traveling journalists, Paul and George were known as the pranksters of the band, as well as the most talkative. Although John was considered the "leader" of the band, Paul was the domineering member who made most of the creative decisions. He's an overly dedicated workaholic and arguably is the most talented. He has a massive ego so he has numerous moments of being a control freak who wanted things his way, and a perfectionist towards a lot of his songs. He especially has moments of being condescending towards his bandmates and a major show off. He is the only ex-Beatle who hardly ever collaborated with the others (if he did, it's mostly with Ringo) and it's generally because of his own self-absorbed and hard-to-please attitude. He further has a habit of being thin-skinned or sensitive to criticism, as well as having a vicious temper when he doesn't get what he wants. Despite his flaws though, he can be very charming, helpful and self-sacrificing. He was classified as the optimist in the band since he really enjoyed being a Beatle and only wished to keep the band going even though he knew that the band's dissolution was inevitable (according to John however, Paul was only keeping the band going for his own sake, not everyone else's).
** [[TheDeterminator George]] was Melancholic because of his serious, sarcastic and brooding nature, along with an indifference towards fame. He was considered by many who knew him as a gentleman. On the other hand, he had a fearsome temper, started fights with policemen and photographers during his early years touring with the Beatles, and was a red-blooded man. Despite his (supposed) indifference towards materialism, he was the most business (money) minded member of the band and wore the trendiest clothes compared to the others. According to a biography by Bob Spitz, George was very stubborn and despised authority figures. He was the one who argued a lot (especially with Paul) during numerous sessions like the ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', Music/TheWhiteAlbum, and ''Music/LetItBe'' sessions. He's just as much of a perfectionist as Paul and could even be as demanding, hard-to-please and overly sensitive as him (hence the two barely ever getting along). However, he could sometimes be terribly indecisive and lack confidence in his skills. He had a nearly life-long resentment towards not only Paul for "ruining him as a guitarist" and John for constantly being condescending towards him, but his overall experience as a Beatle almost to the point that arguably he must've suffered from post traumatic stress disorder. The people who knew him clarify that he hardly was the "Quiet Beatle" fans view him as. In fact, some of his friends recalled how he would never stop talking. Altogether, he was more of the "Stubborn Beatle" than anything else because of his independent and rebellious behavior.
** [[ThePollyanna Ringo]] is Choleric because of his cheerful, warm and sociable personality although he has his moments of mood swings and having a bit of an inferiority complex in the band. He is known for being the mediator in the band when creative tensions were to arise between his bandmates. According to ''Here, There, and Everywhere'', a memoir by Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick, Ringo always seemed to have his guard up, and lacked confidence in his drumming abilities. He was also very uptight and nervous when it came to singing since he was not much of a vocalist. That sort of nervousness and insecurity could also point back to his inferiority complex, along with being the "newbie" in the band. As a result, he can be very sensitive and temperamental if criticized and/or insulted. On the flip side, he's generally happy-go-lucky and as much of a wisecracking joker as John at times, hence the two being the closest of friends compared to the other Beatles. He's also the biggest party animal out of the four. He's the only ex-Beatle who happened to collaborate with all three of his bandmates which lends to the fact that he was the mediator and easygoing realist in the band.

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* FourTemperamentEnsemble:
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FourTemperamentEnsemble: [[BrokenAce John]] was Supine because of his passive-aggressive and idealistic nature along with his tendency to be cynical and melodramatic at sporadic moments. He was especially very witty and had his moments of having his head in the clouds. Although he's considered to be very shy and quiet, he could be a loudmouth and say things he never meant to say. He was once considered by a reporter as lazy and disorganized. He also had moments where he would have random anger outbursts, but was able to forgive and forget. He was an impatient, naive, and highly insecure man of extremes who would hide behind an overly aggressive and cruel facade in front of others (mostly people he's familiar with), then privately be very unsure of himself. He had a habit of exaggerating his own accomplishments and being vain, arrogant, and a narcissist. He seemed to have a strong need to fit in with trends despite trying to come off as rebellious and constantly changed outlooks on life, along with his appearance, like a chameleon (teddy boy, hippie culture, antiwar activism, etc.). Despite being one of the biggest optimists about the band when it first started, he was classified as the agitator in the band since he was an asshole to a lot of people (including his family and friends). After he made the "BiggerThanJesus" remark and received a lot of backlash, he became increasingly neurotic and apathetic about almost everything. He, with the help of Yoko, played a big part in trying to sabotage the band (much to Paul's dismay).
**
melancholic, [[HotBlooded Paul]] is Melancholic because of his hard-working and driven nature yet conservative and uptight personality. According to traveling journalists, Paul and George were known as the pranksters of the band, as well as the most talkative. Although John was considered the "leader" of the band, Paul was the domineering member who made most of the creative decisions. He's an overly dedicated workaholic and arguably is the most talented. He has a massive ego so he has numerous moments of being a control freak who wanted things his way, and a perfectionist towards a lot of his songs. He especially has moments of being condescending towards his bandmates and a major show off. He is the only ex-Beatle who hardly ever collaborated with the others (if he did, it's mostly with Ringo) and it's generally because of his own self-absorbed and hard-to-please attitude. He further has a habit of being thin-skinned or sensitive to criticism, as well as having a vicious temper when he doesn't get what he wants. Despite his flaws though, he can be very charming, helpful and self-sacrificing. He was classified as the optimist in the band since he really enjoyed being a Beatle and only wished to keep the band going even though he knew that the band's dissolution was inevitable (according to John however, Paul was only keeping the band going for his own sake, not everyone else's).
** [[TheDeterminator George]] was Melancholic because of his serious, sarcastic and brooding nature, along with an indifference towards fame. He was considered by many who knew him as a gentleman. On the other hand, he had a fearsome temper, started fights with policemen and photographers during his early years touring with the Beatles, and was a red-blooded man. Despite his (supposed) indifference towards materialism, he was the most business (money) minded member of the band and wore the trendiest clothes compared to the others. According to a biography by Bob Spitz,
choleric, George was very stubborn phlegmatic, and despised authority figures. He was the one who argued a lot (especially with Paul) during numerous sessions like the ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', Music/TheWhiteAlbum, and ''Music/LetItBe'' sessions. He's just as much of a perfectionist as Paul and could even be as demanding, hard-to-please and overly sensitive as him (hence the two barely ever getting along). However, he could sometimes be terribly indecisive and lack confidence in his skills. He had a nearly life-long resentment towards not only Paul for "ruining him as a guitarist" and John for constantly being condescending towards him, but his overall experience as a Beatle almost to the point that arguably he must've suffered from post traumatic stress disorder. The people who knew him clarify that he hardly was the "Quiet Beatle" fans view him as. In fact, some of his friends recalled how he would never stop talking. Altogether, he was more of the "Stubborn Beatle" than anything else because of his independent and rebellious behavior.
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[[ThePollyanna Ringo]] is Choleric because of his cheerful, warm and sociable personality although he has his moments of mood swings and having a bit of an inferiority complex in the band. He is known for being the mediator in the band when creative tensions were to arise between his bandmates. According to ''Here, There, and Everywhere'', a memoir by Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick, Ringo always seemed to have his guard up, and lacked confidence in his drumming abilities. He was also very uptight and nervous when it came to singing since he was not much of a vocalist. That sort of nervousness and insecurity could also point back to his inferiority complex, along with being the "newbie" in the band. As a result, he can be very sensitive and temperamental if criticized and/or insulted. On the flip side, he's generally happy-go-lucky and as much of a wisecracking joker as John at times, hence the two being the closest of friends compared to the other Beatles. He's also the biggest party animal out of the four. He's the only ex-Beatle who happened to collaborate with all three of his bandmates which lends to the fact that he was the mediator and easygoing realist in the band. sanguine.



* FromBadToWorse: For the band, after ''Sgt. Pepper''. While the music remained just as good as ever, the band members themselves started arguing a lot more often, to the point where they breakup was a ForegoneConclusion by the time it happend.

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* FromBadToWorse: For the band, after ''Sgt. Pepper''. While the music remained just as good as ever, the band members themselves started arguing a lot more often, to the point where they breakup was a ForegoneConclusion by the time it happend.happened.
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