History Music / TearsForFears

18th Mar '18 10:56:50 PM CassandraLeo
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** The synth "scream" from "The Hurting" may be sampled from Music/PeterGabriel's "Intruder"; if not, it's almost certainly a ShoutOut, as it sounds very similar.
18th Mar '18 10:55:53 PM CassandraLeo
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* IndecipherableLyrics:
** The CarefulWithThatAxe parts at the end of "Sowing the Seeds of Love" can fall into this. There's one part where Orzabal is saying, "What about the workers?", but this isn't included in the lyrics and isn't easy to make out in the studio version (it's more easily decipherable in some of the live versions).
** There are also some heavily processed vocal parts in some of their songs that can be very difficult to understand, most prominently "Cold".



* LastOfHisKind: Roland Orzabal, for whatever reason, wanted to keep the band alive so much that, during the 1990's, almost all of his solo work [[IAmTheBand would be released under the band's name]]. ''Tomcats Screaming Outside'', which he made in 2001, was his only album that he released under his name (perhaps because it's SomethingCompletelyDifferent: it's a DrumAndBass album).

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* LastOfHisKind: Roland Orzabal, for whatever reason, wanted to keep the band alive so much that, during the 1990's, almost all of his solo "solo" work [[IAmTheBand would be released under the band's name]].name]] (though this has frequently been overstated; see IAmTheBand above). ''Tomcats Screaming Outside'', which he made in 2001, was his only album that he released under his name (perhaps because it's SomethingCompletelyDifferent: it's a DrumAndBass album).
18th Mar '18 10:46:41 PM CassandraLeo
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** In fact, after ''The Hurting'', the album with the highest number of solo Orzabal songwriting credits is... *drumroll* ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', the reunion album, with a whopping four out of twelve songs (or fourteen on the European edition). Most of the songs on this album are credited to Orzabal/Smith/Pettus (Smith's songwriting partner); "Who You Are" is a Smith/Pettus composition, and the four songs credited to Orzabal are "Size of Sorrow", "Quiet Ones", "The Devil", and "Secret World".[[note]] Bonus track "Pullin' a Cloud" is credited to Orzabal, Gail Ann Dorsey (bassist on ''Raoul''), and Brian [=MacLeod=] (percussionist on ''Raoul''); "Out of Control" is credited to Orzabal, Smith, Griffiths, and Pettus.[[/note]] Suffice it to say that Orzabal seems to benefit from having someone else to bounce his songwriting ideas off of (and, for that matter, so does Smith).

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** In fact, after ''The Hurting'', the album with the highest number of solo Orzabal songwriting credits is... *drumroll* ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', the reunion album, with a whopping four out of twelve songs (or fourteen on the European edition). Most of the songs on this album are credited to Orzabal/Smith/Pettus Orzabal, Smith, and Charlton Pettus (Smith's songwriting partner); "Who You Are" is a Smith/Pettus composition, and the four songs credited to Orzabal are "Size of Sorrow", "Quiet Ones", "The Devil", and "Secret World".[[note]] Bonus track "Pullin' a Cloud" is credited to Orzabal, Gail Ann Dorsey (bassist on ''Raoul''), and Brian [=MacLeod=] (percussionist on ''Raoul''); "Out of Control" is credited to Orzabal, Smith, Griffiths, and Pettus.[[/note]] Suffice it to say that Orzabal seems to benefit from having someone else to bounce his songwriting ideas off of (and, for that matter, so does Smith).
7th Mar '18 3:01:51 AM CassandraLeo
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--->Let me explain this. It's another example of what I was saying earlier -the thing about womb-like containment, the oceanic realm of the imagination and picking up things in a subconscious manner. There's a line that goes -"Man, I never slept so hard, I never dreamt so well/Dreaming I was safe in life/Like mussels in a shell."\\

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--->Let me explain this. It's another example of what I was saying earlier -the thing about womb-like containment, the oceanic realm of the imagination and picking up things in a subconscious manner. There's a line that goes -"Man, I never slept so hard, I never dreamt so well/Dreaming I was safe in life/Like mussels in a shell."\\" The vibe is one of containment and safety and peace and solitude. "Rolling and controlling all the basements and the backroads of our lives" is a reference to how you get rid of all the shit and the dirt of life -it's swept under the carpet, or, at the very least, out of sight.\\



The vibe is one of containment and safety and peace and solitude. "Rolling and controlling all the basements and the backroads of our lives", is a reference to how you get rid of all the shit and the dirt of life -it's swept under the carpet, or, at the very least, out of sight.\\
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7th Mar '18 3:00:57 AM CassandraLeo
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** Played straighter on some other songs, such as "Sowing the Seeds of Love", which is an attack on the [[UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher Thatcher]] government. On the same album "Woman in Chains" protests patriarchy, "Famous Last Words" could be interpreted as protesting nuclear war, and "Standing on the Corner of the Third World" attacks globalisation. Maybe.

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** Played straighter on some other songs, such as "Sowing the Seeds of Love", which is an attack on the [[UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher Thatcher]] government. On the same album "Woman in Chains" protests patriarchy, "Famous Last Words" could be interpreted as protesting nuclear war, and "Standing on the Corner of the Third World" attacks globalisation. Maybe.globalisation and colonialism:
--->Let me explain this. It's another example of what I was saying earlier -the thing about womb-like containment, the oceanic realm of the imagination and picking up things in a subconscious manner. There's a line that goes -"Man, I never slept so hard, I never dreamt so well/Dreaming I was safe in life/Like mussels in a shell."\\
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The vibe is one of containment and safety and peace and solitude. "Rolling and controlling all the basements and the backroads of our lives", is a reference to how you get rid of all the shit and the dirt of life -it's swept under the carpet, or, at the very least, out of sight.\\
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I think music is still cathartic for me. Certainly it's got me from A to B. It's been a friend. But what I've done in this case is use the Third World as a symbol for everybody's dumping ground. It's a place that's barren, without life and full of abuse and exploitation. The line, "Standing on the corner of the Third World" brings to me this feeling of containment, yet, just in the background you're slightly reminded that there's this massive grey and barren area that needs attention.
7th Mar '18 2:56:08 AM CassandraLeo
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** In fact, after ''The Hurting'', the album with the highest number of solo Orzabal songwriting credits is... *drumroll* ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', the reunion album, with a whopping four out of twelve songs (or fourteen on the European edition). Most of the songs on this album are credited to Orzabal/Smith/Pettus (Smith's songwriting partner); "Who You Are" is a Smith/Pettus composition, and the four songs credited to Orzabal are "Size of Sorrow", "Quiet Ones", "The Devil", and "Secret World".[[note]] Bonus track "Pullin' a Cloud" is credited to Orzabal, Gail Ann Dorsey (bassist on ''Raoul''), and American musician Brian MacLeod; "Out of Control" is credited to Orzabal, Smith, Griffiths, and Pettus.[[/note]] Suffice it to say that Orzabal seems to benefit from having someone else to bounce his songwriting ideas off of (and, for that matter, so does Smith).

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** In fact, after ''The Hurting'', the album with the highest number of solo Orzabal songwriting credits is... *drumroll* ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', the reunion album, with a whopping four out of twelve songs (or fourteen on the European edition). Most of the songs on this album are credited to Orzabal/Smith/Pettus (Smith's songwriting partner); "Who You Are" is a Smith/Pettus composition, and the four songs credited to Orzabal are "Size of Sorrow", "Quiet Ones", "The Devil", and "Secret World".[[note]] Bonus track "Pullin' a Cloud" is credited to Orzabal, Gail Ann Dorsey (bassist on ''Raoul''), and American musician Brian MacLeod; [=MacLeod=] (percussionist on ''Raoul''); "Out of Control" is credited to Orzabal, Smith, Griffiths, and Pettus.[[/note]] Suffice it to say that Orzabal seems to benefit from having someone else to bounce his songwriting ideas off of (and, for that matter, so does Smith).
7th Mar '18 2:53:43 AM CassandraLeo
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Of course, many fans over at their [[http://www.last.fm/music/Tears+for+Fears Last.FM page]] would have you believe otherwise, and, to be fair, those three are far from the band's only songs to get radio airplay; their other well-known hits include "Mad World", "Pale Shelter", "Change", "Advice for the Young at Heart", "Sowing the Seeds of Love", "Woman in Chains", "Break It Down Again", and "Closest Thing to Heaven".

Besides ''Songs from the Big Chair'', Orzabal and Smith did release three other albums. First there was ''The Hurting'' in 1983, which sounds more like an angst-ridden Music/DepecheMode album; this is where the single "Mad World" came from, which later got a [[CoveredUp more popular cover version]] by Gary Jules that was used on the ''Film/DonnieDarko'' soundtrack. Second was the aforementioned ''Songs from the Big Chair''. ''The Seeds of Love'' came about in 1989, and was a lot more experimental, psychedelic and rockier than the previous albums, though it did spawn a couple of hits ("Sowing the Seeds of Love" and "Woman in Chains"). After their breakup, Roland Orzabal would release [[IAmTheBand two essentially solo albums]] under the band's name (with collaborators Alan Griffiths and, on ''Elemental'', Tim Palmer co-producing and providing additional instrumentation; Griffiths also co-wrote most of the songs on these albums), before Smith rejoined the band and they released the reunion album ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', which picked up where ''Seeds'' left off.

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Of course, many fans over at their [[http://www.last.fm/music/Tears+for+Fears Last.FM page]] would have you believe otherwise, and, to be fair, those three are far from the band's only songs to get radio airplay; their other well-known hits include "Mad World", World" (which, in the past decade or so, has become probably as well known as the three tracks above), "Pale Shelter", "Change", "Advice for the Young at Heart", "Sowing the Seeds of Love", "Woman in Chains", "Break It Down Again", and "Closest Thing to Heaven".

Besides ''Songs from the Big Chair'', Orzabal and Smith did release three other albums. First there was ''The Hurting'' in 1983, which sounds more like an angst-ridden Music/DepecheMode album; this is where the single "Mad World" came from, which later got a [[CoveredUp more popular cover version]] by Gary Jules that was used on the ''Film/DonnieDarko'' soundtrack. Second was the aforementioned ''Songs from the Big Chair''. ''The Seeds of Love'' came about in 1989, and was a lot more experimental, psychedelic and rockier than the previous albums, though it did spawn a couple of hits ("Sowing the Seeds of Love" and "Woman in Chains"). After their breakup, Roland Orzabal would release [[IAmTheBand two essentially solo albums]] under the band's name (with collaborators Alan Griffiths and, on ''Elemental'', and Tim Palmer co-producing and providing additional instrumentation; instrumentation, alongside several other musicians on ''Raoul''; Griffiths also co-wrote most of the songs on these albums), before Smith rejoined the band and they released the reunion album ''Everybody Loves a Happy Ending'', which picked up where ''Seeds'' left off.



** ''Elemental'' and ''Raoul'': Alan Griffiths co-wrote almost all the songs both albums with Orzabal. On ''Elemental'', nine songs are credited to Orzabal/Griffiths and only "Cold" is credited to Orzabal alone. On ''Raoul'', nine songs are Orzabal/Griffiths compositions, with only "Falling Down", "Sketches of Pain", and "I Choose You" credited to Orzabal alone. The instrumentation and production also aren't solely Orzabal's work; Griffiths provided additional instrumentation and co-produced both albums, and Tim Palmer also provided additional instrumentation on and co-produced ''Elemental''. The main way in which IAmTheBand can be honestly said to apply to these albums is that Orzabal is the only person actually credited as a member of the band, but they're still downplayed examples compared to something like, say, Music/NineInchNails, where nearly all the songwriting and instrumentation were credited solely to Trent Reznor until Atticus Ross joined in 2016.

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** ''Elemental'' and ''Raoul'': Alan Griffiths co-wrote almost all the songs both albums with Orzabal. On ''Elemental'', nine songs are credited to Orzabal/Griffiths and only "Cold" is credited to Orzabal alone. On ''Raoul'', nine songs are Orzabal/Griffiths compositions, with only "Falling Down", "Sketches of Pain", and "I Choose You" credited to Orzabal alone. The instrumentation and production also aren't solely Orzabal's work; Griffiths provided additional instrumentation and Tim Palmer co-produced both albums, ''Elemental'' and Tim Palmer also ''Raoul'' and provided additional instrumentation on and co-produced ''Elemental''. The main way in which IAmTheBand can be honestly said to apply to these albums is that Additionally, the band members listed on ''Raoul'' are Orzabal, Griffiths, Jebin Bruni, Gail Ann Dorsey, Brian [=MacLeod=], and Jeffrey Trott. Wikipedia lists Orzabal is as the only person actually credited as a actual band member of on these albums, but the band, but they're still downplayed examples compared to something like, say, Music/NineInchNails, where nearly all the songwriting and instrumentation were credited solely to Trent Reznor until Atticus Ross joined in 2016.CD packaging doesn't make any such distinction.
6th Mar '18 11:22:50 PM CassandraLeo
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Orzabal and Smith are currently in the studio recording new material, which Orzabal has described as darker and more dramatic, describing one song as "a combination of Music/{{Portishead}} and Music/{{Queen}}". The band recently released a [[CoverVersion cover]] of Music/ArcadeFire's "Ready to Start" on [=SoundCloud=], and they are planning to release a new album in 2017 or 2018, tentatively titled ''The Tipping Point''. They released "I Love You But I'm Lost", the first single from their new album on October 12th, and are also going to release a new best-of album on November 10th, called ''Rule the World'', which will feature sixteen songs, including two new songs, which are the aforementioned single, and "Stay".

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Orzabal and Smith are currently in the studio recording new material, which Orzabal has described as darker and more dramatic, describing one song as "a combination of Music/{{Portishead}} and Music/{{Queen}}". The band recently released a [[CoverVersion cover]] of Music/ArcadeFire's "Ready to Start" on [=SoundCloud=], and they are planning to release a new album in 2017 or 2018, tentatively titled ''The Tipping Point''. They released "I Love You But I'm Lost", the first single from their new album album, on October 12th, 2017, and are also going to release released a new best-of album on November 10th, 2017, called ''Rule the World'', which will feature featured sixteen songs, including two new songs, which are the aforementioned single, and "Stay".



* 2006 - ''Secret World Live in Paris''***

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* 2006 - ''Secret World Live in Paris''***Paris''****



[=***=] is a live album

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[=***=] [=****=] is a live album
5th Feb '18 7:40:54 PM InaudibleRage
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** Some would say that Orzabal's shy, private nature in public would make him blue, while Smith's energetic, welcoming disposition would make him red.


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* VitriolicBestBuds: As a duo, Smith and Orzabal definitely play up the competitive man-pride game by bickering and poking fun at one another. Their superfans can vouch. Smith himself once stated that his and Orzabal's "main means of communication would be sarcasm."
17th Jan '18 3:54:02 PM CassandraLeo
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** ''Elemental'' and ''Raoul'': Alan Griffiths co-wrote almost all the songs both albums with Orzabal. On ''Elemental'', nine songs are credited to Orzabal/Griffiths and only "Cold" is credited to Orzabal alone. On ''Raoul'', nine songs are Orzabal/Griffiths compositions, with only "Falling Down", "Sketches of Pain", and "I Choose You" credited to Orzabal alone. The instrumentation and production also aren't solely Orzabal's work; Griffiths provided additional instrumentation and co-produced both albums, and Tim Palmer also provided additional instrumentation on and co-produced ''Elemental''. The main way in which IAmTheBand can be honestly said to apply to these albums is that Orzabal is the only person actually credited as a member of the band, but they're still downplayed examples compared to something like, say, Music/NineInchNails, where nearly all the songs and instrumentation were credited solely to Trent Reznor until Atticus Ross joined in 2016.

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** ''Elemental'' and ''Raoul'': Alan Griffiths co-wrote almost all the songs both albums with Orzabal. On ''Elemental'', nine songs are credited to Orzabal/Griffiths and only "Cold" is credited to Orzabal alone. On ''Raoul'', nine songs are Orzabal/Griffiths compositions, with only "Falling Down", "Sketches of Pain", and "I Choose You" credited to Orzabal alone. The instrumentation and production also aren't solely Orzabal's work; Griffiths provided additional instrumentation and co-produced both albums, and Tim Palmer also provided additional instrumentation on and co-produced ''Elemental''. The main way in which IAmTheBand can be honestly said to apply to these albums is that Orzabal is the only person actually credited as a member of the band, but they're still downplayed examples compared to something like, say, Music/NineInchNails, where nearly all the songs songwriting and instrumentation were credited solely to Trent Reznor until Atticus Ross joined in 2016.
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