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* YourCheatingHeart: Ian's relationship with Belgian journalist Annik Honoré while he was married to Deborah, who started divorce proceedings against him when she found out. This was a contributing factor in his suicide while Honoré maintained that the relationship was platonic to her own death in 2014.
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* HiddenTrack: The alternate version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" on the single's B-side was unlisted on 7-inch copies, though a clue would have been that it plays at 33 rpm instead of the usual 45 for singles.
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* HiddenTrack: The alternate version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" on the single's B-side was unlisted on 7-inch copies, though a clue would have been that it plays at 33 RPM instead of the usual 45 for singles.
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* HiddenTrack: The alternate version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" on the single's B-side was unlisted on 7-inch copies, though a clue would have been that it plays at 33 RPM rpm instead of the usual 45 for singles.
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** This was such a defining trait of Hannett's that Jello Biafra of Music/DeadKennedys actually [[TakeThat made a jab]] at him in the StudioChatter at the beginning of the Kennedys' track "Nazi Punks Fuck Off":
-->'''Biafra:''' "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", overproduced by Martin Hannett, Take 4.
-->'''Biafra:''' "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", overproduced by Martin Hannett, Take 4.
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** This was such a defining trait of Hannett's that Jello Biafra Music/JelloBiafra of Music/DeadKennedys actually [[TakeThat made a jab]] at him in the StudioChatter at the beginning of the Kennedys' track "Nazi Punks Fuck Off":
-->'''Biafra:''' --->'''Biafra:''' "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", overproduced by Martin Hannett, Take 4.
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* ThoseWackyNazis: An ''Ideal for Living'''s artwork, deliberately intended to create controversy over whether the band was a Nazi band, which they weren't (this is referenced in 24 Hour Party People as well). Also, ''Warsaw'', one of the songs from this EP, is about Rudolf Hess.
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* ThoseWackyNazis: An ''Ideal for Living'''s artwork, deliberately intended to create controversy over whether the band was a Nazi band, which they weren't (this is referenced in 24 Hour Party People as well). Also, ''Warsaw'', "Warsaw," one of the songs from this EP, is about Rudolf Hess.
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* 1990 - ''1977-1980'' BoxedSet[[note]]Japan-exclusive; collects the band's two studio albums plus ''Still'', ''Substance'', and the "Atmosphere"/"She's Lost Control" single[[/note]]
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* 1991 - ''1977-1980'' BoxedSet[[note]]Japan-exclusive; collects the band's two studio albums plus ''Still'', ''Substance'', and the "Atmosphere"/"She's Lost Control" single[[/note]]
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* 1990 - ''1977-1980'' BoxedSet[[note]]Japan-exclusive; collects the band's two studio albums plus ''Still'', ''Substance'', and the "Atmosphere"/"She's Lost Control" single[[/note]]
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* 1980 - "Atmosphere" / "Dead Souls"Souls"[[note]]Reissued later in 1980 and 1988; the 1980 reissue features an archival re-recording of "She's Lost Control" as the B-side, while the 1988 reissue features "The Only Mistake" on 7" copies, "The Only Mistake" & "Sound of Music" on 12" copies, and "Transmission (Live)" & "Love Will Tear us Apart" on CD copies[[/note]]
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!! Studio and Live Discography:
* 1978 - ''An Ideal for Living''
* 1978 - ''An Ideal for Living''
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!! Discography:
!!! Studio albums andLive Discography:
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* 1978 - ''An Ideal forLiving''Living'' EP
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* 1981 - ''Still'' [[note]] First half an odds and ends compilation, the second half a live recording. [[/note]]
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!!! Compilations
* 1981 - ''Still'' [[note]] First half an odds and ends
* 1995 - ''Permanent''
* 1997 - ''Heart and Soul'' BoxedSet[[note]]Released in the US in 2001[[/note]]
* 2000 - ''The Complete BBC Recordings''
* 2007 - ''Martin Hannett's Personal Mixes''
* 2008 - ''The Best of Joy Division''
* 2011 - ''Total: From Joy Division to New Order''[[note]]Retrospective compilation; includes both Joy Division and Music/NewOrder material[[/note]]
!!! Live Albums:
* 1981 - ''Still'' [[note]] Second half a live recording. [[/note]]
* 1997 - ''Heart and Soul'' BoxedSet[[note]]Released in the US in 2001[[/note]]
* 2000 - ''The Complete BBC Recordings''
* 2007 - ''Martin Hannett's Personal Mixes''
* 2008 - ''The Best of Joy Division''
* 2011 - ''Total: From Joy Division to New Order''[[note]]Retrospective compilation; includes both Joy Division and Music/NewOrder material[[/note]]
!!! Live Albums:
* 1981 - ''Still'' [[note]] Second half a live recording. [[/note]]
* 2007 - ''The Factory, Manchester Live 13 July 1979''[[note]]Exclusive to the collector's edition re-release of ''Unknown Pleasures''[[/note]]
* 2007 - ''University of London Union Live 8 February 1980''[[note]]Exclusive to the collector's edition re-release of ''Closer''[[/note]]
* 2007 - ''Town Hall, High Wycombe Live 20 February 1980''[[note]]Exclusive to the collector's edition re-release of ''Still''[[/note]]
!!! Non-Album Singles:
* 1979 - "Transmission" / "Novelty"
* 1980 - "Atmosphere" / "Dead Souls"
* 1980 - "Komakino" / "Incubation" / "As You Said"
* 1980 - "Love Will Tear Us Apart" / "These Days"
* 2007 - ''University of London Union Live 8 February 1980''[[note]]Exclusive to the collector's edition re-release of ''Closer''[[/note]]
* 2007 - ''Town Hall, High Wycombe Live 20 February 1980''[[note]]Exclusive to the collector's edition re-release of ''Still''[[/note]]
!!! Non-Album Singles:
* 1979 - "Transmission" / "Novelty"
* 1980 - "Atmosphere" / "Dead Souls"
* 1980 - "Komakino" / "Incubation" / "As You Said"
* 1980 - "Love Will Tear Us Apart" / "These Days"
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!! Non-Album Singles:
* 1979 - "Transmission" / "Novelty"
* 1980 - "Atmosphere" / "Dead Souls"
* 1980 - "Komakino" / "Incubation" / "As You Said"
* 1980 - "Love Will Tear Us Apart" / "These Days"
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* 1979 - "Transmission" / "Novelty"
* 1980 - "Atmosphere" / "Dead Souls"
* 1980 - "Komakino" / "Incubation" / "As You Said"
* 1980 - "Love Will Tear Us Apart" / "These Days"
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** The second box set is ''Heart and Soul'', a 1997 [[LateExportForYou (issued stateside by Rhino in 2001)]] compilation of every single Joy Division recording that London Records could find in the vaults at the time, properly remastered and presented as a sort of retrospective of the band. It is rather notable for being one of only two official source for the band's final recording, a May 14, 1980 studio rehearsal of "Ceremony" (the other official source, for those wondering, is a vinyl release of the Music/NewOrder and Joy Division versions of both "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place", issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2011).
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** The second box set is ''Heart and Soul'', a 1997 [[LateExportForYou (issued stateside by Rhino in 2001)]] compilation of every single Joy Division recording that London Records could find in the vaults at the time, properly remastered and presented as a sort of retrospective of the band. It is rather notable for being one of only two official source sources for the band's final recording, a May 14, 1980 studio rehearsal of "Ceremony" (the other official source, for those wondering, is a vinyl release of the Music/NewOrder and Joy Division versions of both "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place", issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2011).
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** The first is ''1977-1980'', a [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] set released in 1990 compiling the band's two studio albums, the ''Still'' and ''Substance'' compilations, and a CD version of the "Atmosphere"/"She's Lost Control" single, all uncompressed and sourced from the original master tapes. Because all other CD releases of Joy Division's material is sourced from second-generation copies and/or [[LoudnessWar noticeably brickwalled]], this set is considered the a holy grail among Joy Division fans.
** The second box set is ''Heart and Soul'', a 1997 (issued stateside by Rhino in 2001) compilation of every single Joy Division recording that London Records could find in the vaults at the time, properly remastered and presented as a sort of retrospective of the band. It is rather notable for being one of only two official source for the band's final recording, a May 14, 1980 studio rehearsal of "Ceremony" (the other official source, for those wondering, is a vinyl release of the Music/NewOrder and Joy Division versions of both "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place", issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2011).
** The second box set is ''Heart and Soul'', a 1997 (issued stateside by Rhino in 2001) compilation of every single Joy Division recording that London Records could find in the vaults at the time, properly remastered and presented as a sort of retrospective of the band. It is rather notable for being one of only two official source for the band's final recording, a May 14, 1980 studio rehearsal of "Ceremony" (the other official source, for those wondering, is a vinyl release of the Music/NewOrder and Joy Division versions of both "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place", issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2011).
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** The first is ''1977-1980'', a [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] set released in 1990 compiling the band's two studio albums, the ''Still'' and ''Substance'' compilations, and a CD version of the "Atmosphere"/"She's Lost Control" single, all uncompressed and sourced from the original master tapes. Because all other CD releases of Joy Division's material is sourced from second-generation copies and/or [[LoudnessWar noticeably brickwalled]], this set is considered the a holy grail among Joy Division fans.
** The second box set is ''Heart and Soul'', a 1997 [[LateExportForYou (issued stateside by Rhino in2001) 2001)]] compilation of every single Joy Division recording that London Records could find in the vaults at the time, properly remastered and presented as a sort of retrospective of the band. It is rather notable for being one of only two official source for the band's final recording, a May 14, 1980 studio rehearsal of "Ceremony" (the other official source, for those wondering, is a vinyl release of the Music/NewOrder and Joy Division versions of both "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place", issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2011).
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* CassandraTruth: Annik Honoré tried to warn Tony Wilson that Ian Curtis was suicidal but he brushed her off, saying that Ian's dark lyrics were just poetic license. Then Curtis did kill himself...
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** Hannett's heroin addiction is often cited as either [[ArtisticStimulation crucial to his signature sound]], or [[ImmuneToDrugs mysteriously irrelevant]]. Joy Division's legend nurtures profuse [[EpilepticTrees theories]]: Among the more popular is that epilepsy somehow kindled Ian Curtis' song-writing prowess (in this instance, the Trope Name might seem apropos: Until you give it a bit more thought, and realize it's irrelevant).
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** Hannett's heroin addiction is often cited as either [[ArtisticStimulation crucial to his signature sound]], or [[ImmuneToDrugs mysteriously irrelevant]]. Joy Division's legend nurtures profuse [[EpilepticTrees theories]]: Among the more popular is that epilepsy somehow kindled Ian Curtis' song-writing prowess (in this instance, the Trope Name might seem apropos: Until apropos, until you give it a bit more thought, thought and realize it's irrelevant).
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* DeliberatelyMonochrome: It can be surprising to see a picture of Ian in ''colour''.
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* DeliberatelyMonochrome: It All of the band's official photos were taken by photographer Anton Corbjin, who is so fond of this trope that it can be surprising to see a picture of Ian in ''colour''.''colour''. This even extends to Ian's [[Film/{{Control}} 2007 biopic]], which Corbjin directed.
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* MyGreatestFailure: The band members and Tony Wilson mentioned in interviews that they deeply regretted not noticing that Ian Curtis was suicidal or doing anything to help him.
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* DespairEventHorizon: Curtis. ''Film/{{Control}}'' hypothesizes that after having a verbal altercation with his wife (chasing her out of the house) and watching TV, Curtis suffered another grand mal seizure and collapsed. When he came to again, he crossed the horizon -- and was DrivenToSuicide as a result.
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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Ian Curtis and Stephen Morris attended King's School in Macclesfield.
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* MarriedTooYoung: Ian Curtis married Deborah at the age of 19, and felt increasingly constrained by the marriage as the band's career started to take off. This led to his affair with Annik Honoré and the breakdown of Curtis' marriage, one of the contributing factors to his suicide.
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* MarriedTooYoung: Ian Curtis married Deborah Woodruff at the age of 19, and felt increasingly constrained by the marriage as the band's career started to take off. This led to his affair with Annik Honoré and the breakdown of Curtis' marriage, one of the contributing factors to his suicide.
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* BrownNote: The band stopped using strobe lighting due to Curtis' epilepsy, but Stephen Morris' drumming was enough to trigger seizures in Curtis.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Martin Hannett turned a thudding punk band into something remarkable, with the same songs.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Martin Hannett turned a thudding punk band into something remarkable, with the same songs. Compare, for instance, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBE67snG9RU the original version]] of "Transmission" to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3EqNYQklg the version]] after Hannett got his hands on it.
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* YourCheatingHeart: Ian's relationship with Belgian journalist Annik Honoré while he was married to Deborah, who started divorce proceedings against him when she found it. This was a contributing factor in his suicide while Honoré maintained that the relationship was platonic to her own death in 2014.
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* YourCheatingHeart: Ian's relationship with Belgian journalist Annik Honoré while he was married to Deborah, who started divorce proceedings against him when she found it.out. This was a contributing factor in his suicide while Honoré maintained that the relationship was platonic to her own death in 2014.
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* AllPartOfTheShow: Curtis' on-stage seizures were mistaken for his frenetic dancing style at first.
** And later, after it was known he had epilepsy, fans would show up sometimes ''hoping'' he would go into a seizure during shows, which Ian alludes to in the opening lines of "The Atrocity Exhibition": "''For entertainment they watch his body twist / Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'''"
** And later, after it was known he had epilepsy, fans would show up sometimes ''hoping'' he would go into a seizure during shows, which Ian alludes to in the opening lines of "The Atrocity Exhibition": "''For entertainment they watch his body twist / Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'''"
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* AllPartOfTheShow: Curtis' on-stage seizures were mistaken for his frenetic dancing style at first.
** And later, afterfirst. After it was known he had epilepsy, fans would show up sometimes ''hoping'' he would go into a seizure during shows, which Ian alludes to in the opening lines of "The Atrocity Exhibition": "''For entertainment they watch his body twist / Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'''"
** And later, after
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* YourCheatingHeart: Ian's relationship with Belgian journalist Annik Honoré while he was married to Deborah was a contributing factor in his suicide while Honoré maintained that the relationship was platonic to her own death in 2014.
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* YourCheatingHeart: Ian's relationship with Belgian journalist Annik Honoré while he was married to Deborah Deborah, who started divorce proceedings against him when she found it. This was a contributing factor in his suicide while Honoré maintained that the relationship was platonic to her own death in 2014.
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* DeadArtistsAreBetter: There are way more Music/NewOrder albums, but look which band got a page first on this wiki... Mostly because it'd be silly to discuss New Order without Joy Division. That's like discussing Music/FooFighters without mentioning Music/{{Nirvana}}.
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* DeadArtistsAreBetter: There are way more Music/NewOrder albums, but look which band got a page first on this wiki... Mostly because it'd be silly to discuss New Order without Joy Division. That's like discussing Music/FooFighters without mentioning Music/{{Nirvana}}. This is also a morbid reason that the band was such a critical favorite on both sides of the Atlantic in the wake of Ian Curtis' suicide.