History Music / JoannaNewsom

18th Jan '17 3:41:21 PM Xtifr
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Her third album, ''Have One on Me'', is decidedly more mainstream than her previous work. While still retaining much of her unique style, it's also somewhat reminiscent of JoniMitchell, Music/ToriAmos or Music/FairportConvention, and marked Newsom's breakthrough as a world famous singer. Due to the aforementioned VocalEvolution, her vocals are somewhat less of an acquired taste on this album, and though the songs retain comparable length to those on ''Ys'', the arrangements and the songs themselves are somewhat more accessible.

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Her third album, ''Have One on Me'', is decidedly more mainstream than her previous work. While still retaining much of her unique style, it's also somewhat reminiscent of JoniMitchell, Music/JoniMitchell, Music/ToriAmos or Music/FairportConvention, and marked Newsom's breakthrough as a world famous singer. Due to the aforementioned VocalEvolution, her vocals are somewhat less of an acquired taste on this album, and though the songs retain comparable length to those on ''Ys'', the arrangements and the songs themselves are somewhat more accessible.
14th Jan '17 2:47:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* AnAesop: "Monkey & Bear" seems to have the structure of one, animals and everything. It also resembles ''AnimalFarm'': after Monkey and Bear escape from the humans masters, Monkey starts treating Bear like a slave, telling her that they need her dancing to make money. Monkey slowly becomes more and more human-like in behavior, and Bear doesn't stand up to him... instead, she chooses to [[spoiler: cast off her body, limb by limb, and vanish from Monkey's life]].

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* AnAesop: "Monkey & Bear" seems to have the structure of one, animals and everything. It also resembles ''AnimalFarm'': ''Literature/AnimalFarm'': after Monkey and Bear escape from the humans masters, Monkey starts treating Bear like a slave, telling her that they need her dancing to make money. Monkey slowly becomes more and more human-like in behavior, and Bear doesn't stand up to him... instead, she chooses to [[spoiler: cast off her body, limb by limb, and vanish from Monkey's life]].
15th Apr '16 3:05:02 AM CassandraLeo
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* IncrediblyLamePun: The title ''Joanna Newsom & the Ys Street Band'' is a pun on the name of BruceSpringsteen's E Street Band (as well as to the title of Newsom's preceding album, obviously).


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* PunBasedTitle: The title ''Joanna Newsom & the Ys Street Band'' is a pun on the name of BruceSpringsteen's E Street Band (as well as to the title of Newsom's preceding album, obviously).
15th Apr '16 3:03:14 AM CassandraLeo
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* GenreRoulette: Her music is always based in folk, but it shifts wildly in style from song to song. This was particularly notable on ''Have One on Me'' and she took it UpToEleven with ''Divers'', where she deliberately worked with different collaborators from track to track to ensure the album didn't have a consistent feel between songs.
14th Apr '16 1:07:09 PM CassandraLeo
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** "The big myth about Joanna Newsom is that she is fragile. An extraordinary idea when you think how radical, how ballsy, her choices have been. Her albums conform to no prescribed ideas about how many songs they should contain (the last one had five, this one has 18, songs vary hugely in length — and let’s not forget they’re written on a harp). [[CrazyAwesome Does anybody else put superglue on their fingers to make sure the callouses don’t grow soft?]] Schlep around the world to lead a different symphonic orchestra in playing her songs every night with barely any rehearsal time, everywhere from the London Barbican to the Sydney Opera House? Playing a huge 7-pedalled harp is tough stuff. And who else, aged 18, would go alone to a wild place down by the river, arrange some stones into a circle, and then sit inside that circle and stay there for three days, fasting. (Her friends camped a few miles away and left her small amounts of rice and water while she slept.) It’s a determination like none I’ve ever encountered. "

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** "The big myth about Joanna Newsom is that she is fragile. An extraordinary idea when you think how radical, how ballsy, her choices have been. Her albums conform to no prescribed ideas about how many songs they should contain (the last one had five, this one has 18, songs vary hugely in length — and let’s not forget they’re written on a harp). [[CrazyAwesome Does anybody else put superglue on their fingers to make sure the callouses don’t grow soft?]] Schlep around the world to lead a different symphonic orchestra in playing her songs every night with barely any rehearsal time, everywhere from the London Barbican to the Sydney Opera House? Playing a huge 7-pedalled harp is tough stuff. And who else, aged 18, would go alone to a wild place down by the river, arrange some stones into a circle, and then sit inside that circle and stay there for three days, fasting. (Her friends camped a few miles away and left her small amounts of rice and water while she slept.) It’s a determination like none I’ve ever encountered. "



*** It could be seen as Joanna's account of her relationship with Bill Callahan - especially considering all the references to song titles of Callahan's in "Go Long"

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*** It could be seen as Joanna's account of her relationship with Bill Callahan - especially considering all the references to song titles of Callahan's in "Go Long"Long".


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* DownerEnding: "Does Not Suffice" for ''Have One on Me''.
12th Apr '16 12:17:52 AM CassandraLeo
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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: As Monkey begins to treat Bear more like a slave, Monkey also comes to resemble humans more. This parallels ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', in which the pigs had a similar character arc.
12th Apr '16 12:13:20 AM CassandraLeo
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* WholePlotReference: As noted in FridgeBrilliance on the YMMV page, Monkey is becoming more human-like throughout the events of "Monkey & Bear". Given Joanna’s history of making literary allusions, this is very likely a deliberate allusion to Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', in which the pigs do the same thing.

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* WholePlotReference: As noted in FridgeBrilliance on the YMMV page, page and above under AnAesop, Monkey is becoming more human-like throughout the events of "Monkey & Bear". Given Joanna’s history of making literary allusions, this is very likely a deliberate allusion to Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', in which the pigs do the same thing.
12th Apr '16 12:11:59 AM CassandraLeo
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Her third album, ''Have One On Me'', is decidedly more mainstream than her previous work. While still retaining much of her unique style, it's also somewhat reminiscent of JoniMitchell, Music/ToriAmos or Fairport Convention, and marked Newsom's breakthrough as a world famous singer.

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Her third album, ''Have One On on Me'', is decidedly more mainstream than her previous work. While still retaining much of her unique style, it's also somewhat reminiscent of JoniMitchell, Music/ToriAmos or Fairport Convention, Music/FairportConvention, and marked Newsom's breakthrough as a world famous singer.
singer. Due to the aforementioned VocalEvolution, her vocals are somewhat less of an acquired taste on this album, and though the songs retain comparable length to those on ''Ys'', the arrangements and the songs themselves are somewhat more accessible.



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* FlowerMotifsFlowerMotifs: Uses this in many of her songs. "Emily" has some good examples.



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* NatureSpirit: Colleen is, by all indication, an amnesiac water nymph who got mistaken for a human. She doesn't cope well.

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* {{Modulation}}
MinisculeRocking: The studio version of "On a Good Day" is 1:49 long on an album where almost half the songs are over seven minutes long. When performed live, it tends to be slightly longer, but is still rarely much longer than two minutes.
* {{Modulation}}: Many of her songs change keys several times, which is almost a foregone conclusion given how long some of them are.
* NatureSpirit: Colleen is, by all indication, an [[spoiler:an amnesiac water nymph who got mistaken for a human.human]]. She doesn't cope well.



** Her penchant for polyrhythms on her earlier recordings ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_aRlINLdQ Peach, Plum, Pear]] is definitely a prime example) can be considered a variant of this trope.

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** Her penchant for polyrhythms on her earlier recordings ([[http://www.("[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_aRlINLdQ Peach, Plum, Pear]] Pear]]" is definitely a prime example) can be considered a variant of this trope.



* WhatCliffhanger: "Colleen" culminates very vaguely, with the idea that there's a twist ''somewhere'' in there (careful examination of the lyrics certainly seems to support this), and then it sort of... just ends. (One possible interpretation with wide support is that Colleen is an amnesiac water nymph who has been convinced that she is human).

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* WhatCliffhanger: "Colleen" culminates very vaguely, with the idea that there's a twist ''somewhere'' in there (careful examination of the lyrics certainly seems to support this), and then it sort of... just ends. (One possible interpretation with wide support is that Colleen is an [[spoiler:an amnesiac water nymph who has been convinced that she is human).human]]).
12th Apr '16 12:06:16 AM CassandraLeo
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Newsom's songs are ''highly'' intricate fairy tales, with difficult melodies and very poetic lyrics, but they're always less abstract and more coherent than they seem to be at first. Newsom is most easily compared to The Incredible String Band and [[Literature/GoblinMarket Christina Rossetti]], adding her own {{Cloudcuckoolander}} philosophy to her stories and telling them with compelling melodies. Many of her poems star complicated characters and feature separate fantasy worlds. Some are BeastFable tales, others just describe nature, and some are classic folk. Most critics call her an acquired taste; in many cases citing difficulties in getting used to her distinct vocal style (which is high, throaty and airy and distinctly child-like).

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Newsom's songs are ''highly'' intricate fairy tales, with difficult melodies and very poetic lyrics, but they're always less abstract and more coherent than they seem to be at first. Newsom is most easily compared to The Incredible String Band and [[Literature/GoblinMarket Christina Rossetti]], adding her own {{Cloudcuckoolander}} philosophy to her stories and telling them with compelling melodies. Many of her poems star complicated characters and feature separate fantasy worlds. Some are BeastFable tales, others just describe nature, and some are classic folk. Most critics call her an acquired taste; in many cases citing difficulties in getting used to her distinct vocal style (which is high, throaty and airy and distinctly child-like).
childlike although, due to VocalEvolution, less childlike than it used to be).
12th Apr '16 12:03:46 AM CassandraLeo
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* WholePlotReference: As noted in FridgeBrilliance on the YMMV page, Monkey is becoming more human-like throughout the events of "Monkey & Bear". Given Joanna’s history of making literary allusions, this is very likely a deliberate allusion to Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', in which the pigs do the same thing.
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