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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock band from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'', their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High," and their single "Don't Want To Know If You are Lonely," which was notably featured in the film ''Film/Adventureland'' and covered by Music/GreenDay. They are regarded as seminal in the creation of the AlternativeRock and PostHardcore genres.
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock band from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'', their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High," and their single "Don't Want To Know If You are Are Lonely," which was notably featured in the film ''Film/Adventureland'' ''Film/{{Adventureland}}'' and covered by Music/GreenDay. They are regarded as seminal in the creation of the AlternativeRock and PostHardcore genres.
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* SurprisinglyGentleSong: being a HardcorePunk band, any of their acoustic songs count- especially the two on Candy Apple Grey. "Hardly Getting Over It" even has synthesizer solo!
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* SurprisinglyGentleSong: being a HardcorePunk band, any of their acoustic songs count- especially the two on Candy ''Candy Apple Grey.Grey''. "Hardly Getting Over It" even has synthesizer solo!
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock band from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and Rising'', their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High," and they their single "Don't Want To Know If You are Lonely," which was notably featured in the film ''Film/Adventureland'' and covered by Music/GreenDay. They are regarded as seminal in the creation of the AlternativeRock and PostHardcore genres.
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* AlternativeRock
* LonelyPianoPiece: "One Step at a Time" and "Monday Will Never Be the Same."
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* EchoingAcoustics: a common feature of the production on their studio albums, especially the later ones.
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* StraightGay: Bob Mould and Grant Hart. Norton was the odd man out.
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* SurprisinglyGentleSong: being a HardcorePunk band, any of their acoustic songs count- especially the two on Candy Apple Grey. "Hardly Getting Over It" even has synthesizer solo!
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* [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis/St. Paul]]: Robert Street (an actual thoroughfare in St. Paul, not a person) is mentioned in "Diane""Diane."
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* Emo: not an example per se, but an influence on the genre (Zen Arcade was very influential on Emo bands). Might count as an UrExample.
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* Emo: not an example per se, but an influence on the genre (Zen Arcade was very influential on Emo bands). Might count as an UrExample.EpicRocking: "Reoccuring Dreams" clocks in at 13:47.
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* Emo: not an example per se, but an influence on the genre (Zen Arcade was very influential on Emo bands). Might count as an UrExample.
* HardcorePunk
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* HardcorePunk
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Mostly a 6-7 on their early albums, mostly 5-6 later on (though they have some songs, i.e. "Never Talking To You Again", "Perfect Example", "Too Far Down" and "Hardly Getting Over It") that drop below this point.
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* StudioChatter: Mould, at the end of "Plans I Make," the last song on ''New Day Rising,'' says, "It's the end of the album."
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* MurderBallad: "Diane"
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* MurderBallad: "Diane""Diane", which was apparently based on the real-life rape and murder of West St. Paul waitress Diane Edwards by Joseph Ture in 1980.
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* DoubleEntendre[=/=]PunBasedTitle: ''Land Speed Record'' refers both to the ferocious speed of the material and the band's fondness (at the time) for amphetamines.
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* PunBasedTitle: ''Land Speed Record'' refers both to the ferocious speed of the material and the band's fondness (at the time) for amphetamines.
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** Either ''Everything Falls Apart'', ''Metal Circus'', or ''Zen Arcade'' (depending on the listener's perspective) is where their songwriting became melody-based enough to differentiate them from traditional hardcore.
** ''Flip Your Wig'' had a much more polished production than their previous records. The band's next two albums would continue in this domain.
** Either ''Everything Falls Apart'', ''Metal Circus'', or ''Zen Arcade'' (depending on the listener's perspective) is where their songwriting became melody-based enough to differentiate them from traditional hardcore.
** ''Flip Your Wig'' had a much more polished production than their previous records. The band's next two albums would continue in this domain.
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* {{Subtext}}: Mould is gay and Hart is bisexual, although this was not widely publicised at the time the band was active. This knowledge adds an extra layer of meaning to songs like "The Biggest Lie", which thereby becomes a very different song. (Note that, while it was rumoured that Hart and Mould were romantically involved and their tensions were a reason for the band's breakup, both of them have flatly denied this).
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* AllJustADream: One possible way of interpreting the first twenty songs of ''Zen Arcade'', given "The Tooth Fairy and the Princess" (song twenty-one).
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock band from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
High," and they are regarded as seminal in the creation of the AlternativeRock and PostHardcore genres.
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* CoverVersion: "Eight Miles High", [=Donovan=]'s "Sunshine Superman"
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* UncommonTime: "Masochism World"
* UncommonTime: "Masochism World"
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock band from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk HardcorePunk[=/=]AlternativeRock from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
* NoHitWonder: Neither singles nor albums.
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* DrivenToSuicide: Their manager. Mould tried to take over his role, which is generally seen as one of the factors that led to the band's collapse and the ongoing problems between Mould and Hart.
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* CrapsackWorld: Pretty much.
* DaysOfTheWeekSong: "Monday Will Never Be The Same"
* DrugsAreBad: "Pink Turns to Blue" is about a girl who overdoses and dies.
* {{Instrumentals}}: "Reoccurring Dreams," from ''Zen Arcade.''
* {{Instrumentals}}: "Reoccurring Dreams," from ''Zen Arcade.''
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** Single Stanza Song: "If I Told You"You"
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* RefugeInAudacity: "Series/GilligansIsland":
-->"Gilligan's Island\\
Is where I wanna be\\
I wanna fuck Ginger\\
Underneath a big palm tree\\
I wanna make the professor\\
Make some good drugs for me\\
Oh Gilligan's Island\\
Is where I wanna be"
-->"Gilligan's Island\\
Is where I wanna be\\
I wanna fuck Ginger\\
Underneath a big palm tree\\
I wanna make the professor\\
Make some good drugs for me\\
Oh Gilligan's Island\\
Is where I wanna be"
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* DownerEnding: The band's collapse after failing to find commercial success.
* [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis/St. Paul]]: Robert Street is mentioned in "Diane"
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* ConceptAlbum: ''Zen Arcade,'' which tells the story of a youth who leaves his unfulfilling home life to find that the world outside is even worse.
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-->"''Walking around with your head in the clouds\\
It makes no sense at all''"
-->--'''Hüsker Dü''', "''Makes No Sense At All''"
It makes no sense at all''"
-->--'''Hüsker Dü''', "''Makes No Sense At All''"
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* ProtestSong: "In A FreeLand"Land"
* [[SingleStanzaSong Single Lyric Song]]: "New Day Rising" is just the title repeated over and over.
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* ProtestSong: "In A Free
* [[SingleStanzaSong Single Lyric Song]]: "New Day Rising" is just the title repeated over and over.
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High.""
As usual, you can find the basics at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husker_Du The Other Wiki]].
!! New Tropes Rising:
* BadassMustache: Greg Norton
* BlahBlahBlah: They have a song with this title.
* BreakupSong: "Hardly Getting Over It"
* CoverVersion: "Eight Miles High", [=Donovan=]'s "Sunshine Superman"
* LiveAlbum: Two of them. Their full-length debut, ''Land Speed Record,'' and ''The Living End,'' a compilation released after the band collapsed.
* MeaningfulName: The band's name was taken from a board game, the title of which means "Do you remember?" in [[UsefulNotes/{{Denmark}} Danish]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]]. The band added the [[HeavyMetalUmlaut Heävy Mëtal Ümlauts]].
* MinisculeRocking: ''Land Speed Record'' packs 17 songs into 26 1/2 minutes.
* ObsessionSong: "Diane"
* ProtestSong: "In A Free Land"
As usual, you can find the basics at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husker_Du The Other Wiki]].
!! New Tropes Rising:
* BadassMustache: Greg Norton
* BlahBlahBlah: They have a song with this title.
* BreakupSong: "Hardly Getting Over It"
* CoverVersion: "Eight Miles High", [=Donovan=]'s "Sunshine Superman"
* LiveAlbum: Two of them. Their full-length debut, ''Land Speed Record,'' and ''The Living End,'' a compilation released after the band collapsed.
* MeaningfulName: The band's name was taken from a board game, the title of which means "Do you remember?" in [[UsefulNotes/{{Denmark}} Danish]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]]. The band added the [[HeavyMetalUmlaut Heävy Mëtal Ümlauts]].
* MinisculeRocking: ''Land Speed Record'' packs 17 songs into 26 1/2 minutes.
* ObsessionSong: "Diane"
* ProtestSong: "In A Free Land"
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
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'''Hüsker Dü''' were an American HardcorePunk from [[UsefulNotes/TwinCities Minneapolis, MN]] who were together from 1979-1986. They were composed of singer/guitarist/lyricist Bob Mould, bassist Greg Norton and drummer/lyricist Grant Hart. While they never had a hit record, among their most well-known work is the ConceptAlbum ''Zen Arcade,'' the follow-up ''New Day Rising'' and their CoverVersion of Music/TheByrds' "Eight Miles High."
