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Their sound was more melodic than many other punk bands of their generation (especially in the hardcore scene), and they sang about being losers, problems with girls, and other sensitive subjects, with a lot of nonsense and humor included. While nobody would mistake them for an emo band, they could be seen as a precursor for the genre, particularly its fusion with PopPunk during the 1990s and 2000s – sensitive and melodic, but with edgier music. They're not as [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] though, and a lot more fun. In addition to girls and other problems, the band sang occasionally about food and coffee, and in particular, not doing drugs (except for caffeine, of which they were fond).very fond of). They even had at least one entire song about farting ("Enjoy").
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The Descendents are an American punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1977, released their first EP ''Fat'' in 1981, and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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The Descendents are an American punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1977, released their first EP ''Fat'' in 1981, 1981 and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', College'' in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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Their sound was more melodic than most many other punk bands of their generation (especially in the hardcore scene), and they sang about being losers, problems with girls, and other sensitive subjects, with a lot of nonsense and humor included. While nobody would mistake them for an emo band, they could be seen as a precursor for the genre, particularly its fusion with PopPunk during the 1990s and 2000s – sensitive and melodic, but with edgier music. They're not as [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] though, and a lot more fun. In addition to girls and other problems, the band sang occasionally about food and coffee, and in particular, not doing drugs (except for caffeine, of which they were fond). They even had at least one entire song about farting ("Enjoy").
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* PopPunk: Pretty much the [[TropeMaker Trope Makers]] for the genre as we know it today.
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* PopPunk: Pretty much In many ways the [[TropeMaker Trope Makers]] {{Trope Maker}}s for the genre as we know it today.
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Their sound was more melodic than most punk bands of their generation, generation (especially in the hardcore scene), and they sang about being losers, problems with girls, and other sensitive subjects, with a lot of nonsense and humor included. While nobody would mistake them for an emo band, they could be seen as a precursor for the genre, particularly its fusion with PopPunk during the 1990s and 2000s – sensitive and melodic, but with edgier music. They're not as [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] though, and a lot more fun. In addition to girls and other problems, the band sang occasionally about food and coffee, and in particular, not doing drugs (except for caffeine, of which they were fond). They even had at least one entire song about farting ("Enjoy").
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Their sound was more melodic than most punk bands of their generation, and they sang about being losers, problems with girls, and other sensitive subjects, with a lot of nonsense and humor included. While nobody would mistake them for an emo band, they might could be seen as a precursor for the genre, especially for it's years in particularly its fusion with PopPunk during the 1990s and 2000s – sensitive and melodic, but with edgier music. They're not as [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] though, and a lot more fun. In addition to girls and other problems, the band sang occasionally about food and coffee, and in particular, not doing drugs (except for caffeine, of which they were fond). They even had at least one entire song about farting ("Enjoy").
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Three of the Descendents' members formed the band "All" in 1987. Currently, both bands exist as separate bands; however, they share three members and play each others' songs at concerts, so the distinction is less than complete.
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Three of the Descendents' members formed the band "All" Music/{{ALL}} in 1987. Currently, both bands exist as separate bands; however, they share three members and play each others' songs at concerts, so the distinction is less than complete.
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* ''Ride the Wild/It’s A Hectic World'' (1980, single)
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* ''Ride "Ride the Wild/It’s Wild"/"It’s A Hectic World'' World" (1980, single)
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* AntiLoveSong: "Hope," which deals with some of the negative feelings of unrequited love as someone seems to descend into an abusive relationship.
* BookEnds: Their compilation album ''Somery'' begins with "All" and ends with "No All," though for all intents and purposes "My Dad Sucks" opens the compilation and "Descendents" closes it.
* BookEnds: Their compilation album ''Somery'' begins with "All" and ends with "No All," though for all intents and purposes "My Dad Sucks" opens the compilation and "Descendents" closes it.
* MinusculeRocking: Perhaps their trademark. Songs like "I Like Food" and "Wienerschnitzel" are barely above 10 seconds, while the "All"/"No All" pair takes up only four seconds. Across two songs.
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Their sound was more melodic than most punk bands of their generation, and they sang about being losers, problems with girls, and other sensitive subjects, with a lot of nonsense and humor included. While nobody would mistake them for an emo band, they might be seen as a precursor for the genre genre, especially for it's years in the 2000s – sensitive and melodic, but with edgier music. They're not as [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] though, and a lot more fun. In addition to girls and other problems, the band sang occasionally about food and coffee, and in particular, not doing drugs (except for caffeine, of which they were fond). They even had at least one entire song about farting ("Enjoy").
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The Descendents are an American punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1978, released their first EP ''Fat'' in 1981, and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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The Descendents are an American punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1978, 1977, released their first EP ''Fat'' in 1981, and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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* ''Ride the Wild/It’s A Hectic World'' (1980, single)
* ''Fat EP'' (1981, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin EP]])
* ''Fat EP'' (1981, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin EP]])
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* ''Fat EP'' (1981, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin EP]])
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*''Fat EP'' (1981, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin EP]])
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** 14-15 year old Stevenson worked as a fisherman for [[Music/BlackFlag Keith Morris]]’s dad.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite playing in a very well known punk band, Tony Lombardo not only didn't like the punk scene (he even wrote "I'm Not A Punk" about it) but as mentioned below, "Suburban Home" was a genuine plea for stability.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite playing in a very well known well-known punk band, Tony Lombardo not only didn't like the punk scene scene, (he even wrote "I'm Not A Punk" about it) but as mentioned below, "Suburban Home" was a genuine plea for stability.
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* PepTalkSong: "Pep Talk"
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** "Marriage" arguably counts. A lot of their songs (especially on ''Milo Goes to College'') add the suffix "-age" to a word, such as "Bikeage" or "Tonyage", with "Marriage" being the only real word that ends in "-age" on the album. On a similar note, there's "Coolidge" from ''All.''
* {{Rockumentary}}: ''Filmage.''
* {{Rockumentary}}: ''Filmage.''
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** "Marriage" arguably counts. A lot of their songs (especially on ''Milo Goes to College'') [[RunningGag add the suffix "-age" to a word, word,]] such as "Bikeage" or "Tonyage", with "Marriage" being the only real word that ends in "-age" on the album. On a similar note, there's "Coolidge" from ''All.''
* {{Rockumentary}}:''Filmage.''Filmage: The Story of The Descendents/ALL.''
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* EmoMusic: The UrExample, especially for it's more mainstream 'emo-pop' years. They definitely sang about stuff like their bad luck with girls and other teenage problems, but they generally sounded more fun.
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* PopPunk: Pretty much the [[TropeMaker Trope Makers]] for the genre as we know it today.
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* EmoMusic: The UrExample, especially for it's more mainstream 'emo-pop' years. They definitely sang about stuff like their bad luck with girls and other teenage problems, but they generally sounded more fun.
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* {{Emo}} / PopPunk: The UrExample. They definitely sang about stuff like their bad luck with girls and other teenage problems, but they generally sounded more fun.
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* {{Emo}} / PopPunk: EmoMusic: The UrExample.UrExample, especially for it's more mainstream years. They definitely sang about stuff like their bad luck with girls and other teenage problems, but they generally sounded more fun.
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* VulgarHumor: Overuse of this got a rather icy reception for "Enjoy!", with the opening track and "Orgofart" both being particularly fart-obsessed tracks. The album still has its fans regardless.
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* VulgarHumor: Overuse of this got a rather icy reception for "Enjoy!", with the opening track and "Orgofart" both being particularly fart-obsessed tracks. The toilet humor theme continued onto the artwork, with the front cover depicting a roll of toilet paper and the back cover having a list of slang terms for feces where you would expect a list of songs. The album still has its fans regardless.
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* IconicLogo: A caricature of Milo Aukerman appears on the cover of most of their studio albums (the only exceptions being ''Enjoy!'' and ''All'').
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* IWantSong: "Suburban Home" is a sarcastic one of these, opening with "I want to be stereotyped. I ''want'' to be classified."
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* {{Irony}}: Despite playing in a very well known punk band, Tony Lombardo not only didn't like the punk scene (he even wrote "I'm Not A Punk" about it) but as mentioned below, "Suburban Home" was a genuine plea for stability.
--> "I definitely wanted a home. I couldn't live in a place where all the people are cool. I don't like dysfunctionality. I have an abhorrence of dysfunctionality because my mother was an alcoholic, my parents are divorced, I just don't need that assault on my emotions and psyche."
* IWantSong: "Suburban Home"is is, strangely for a sarcastic punk band, a straight-faced one of these, opening with "I want to be stereotyped. I ''want'' to be classified."
--> "I definitely wanted a home. I couldn't live in a place where all the people are cool. I don't like dysfunctionality. I have an abhorrence of dysfunctionality because my mother was an alcoholic, my parents are divorced, I just don't need that assault on my emotions and psyche."
* IWantSong: "Suburban Home"
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* ClusterFBomb: Happens in a number of their songs on occassion.
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* ClusterFBomb: Happens in a number of their songs on occassion.occasion.
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* GriefSong: "One More Day" dealing with the then-recent death of Milo's father. Despite the two's poor relationship, Milo had a lot of pent up emotion he released in the song.
** "Feel This" deals with Bill Stevenson's mother's death.
** "Feel This" deals with Bill Stevenson's mother's death.
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* GriefSong: "One More Day" dealing with the then-recent death of Milo's Bill's father. Despite the two's poor relationship, Milo Stevenson had a lot of pent up emotion he released in the song.
** "Feel This" deals withBill Stevenson's Karl’s mother's death.
** "Feel This" deals with
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their debut single, "Ride the Wild" / "It's a Hectic World", had more in common with SurfRock and NewWaveMusic than HardcorePunk. Also, as already mentioned, Milo wasn't in the band yet - Frank Navetta sang the A-side and Tony Lombardo sang the B-side, these being the only times either would ever sing lead on a Descendents recording. Neither Frank nor Tony considered themselves singers in the first place, and a key reason the single was made was to serve as a calling card to give out to potential vocalists.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their debut single, "Ride the Wild" / "It's a Hectic World", had more in common with SurfRock and NewWaveMusic than HardcorePunk. Also, as already mentioned, Milo wasn't in the band yet - Frank Navetta sang the A-side and Tony Lombardo sang the B-side, these being the only times either would ever sing lead on a Descendents recording. Neither Frank nor Tony considered themselves singers in the first place, and a key reason the single was made was to serve as a calling card to give out to potential vocalists. ''9th & Walnut'', being mainly recordings of early songs that never made their albums, features re-recordings of "Ride the Wild" and "It's A Hectic World" with Milo's vocals.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their debut single, "Ride the Wild" / "It's a Hectic World", had more in common with SurfRock and NewWaveMusic than HardcorePunk. Also, as already mentioned, Milo wasn't in the band yet - Frank Navetta sang the A-side and Tony Lombardo sang the B-side, these being the only times either would ever sing lead on a Descendents recording. Neither Frank nor Tony considered themselves singers in the first place, and a key reason the single was made in the first place was to serve as a calling card to give out to potential vocalists.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their debut single, "Ride the Wild" / "It's a Hectic World", had more in common with SurfRock and NewWaveMusic than HardcorePunk. Also, as already mentioned, Milo wasn't in the band yet - Frank Navetta sang the A-side and Tony Lombardo sang the B-side, these being the only times either would ever sing lead on a Descendents recording. Neither Frank nor Tony considered themselves singers in the first place, and a key reason the single was made in the first place was to serve as a calling card to give out to potential vocalists.
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* ''Hallraker!'' (1989, live album)
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* ''Hallraker!'' ''Hallraker: Live!'' (1989, live album)
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* HiddenDepths: Think the title ''Milo Goes to College'' was chosen because it was catchy? Wellit turns out lead singer Milo Aukerman actually ''was'' going to college in order to be a biochemist. The band now tours and records around his work schedule.
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* HiddenDepths: Think the title ''Milo Goes to College'' was chosen because it was catchy? Wellit Well, it turns out lead singer that Milo Aukerman actually ''was'' going to college in order to be a biochemist. The band now tours and records around his work schedule.
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Descendents are a punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1978, released their first EP ''Fat'', in 1980, and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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The Descendents are a an American punk-rock band from Hermosa Beach, California. They started in 1978, released their first EP ''Fat'', ''Fat'' in 1980, 1981, and their first album ''Milo Goes to College'', in 1982. They went through many lineup changes and there's even an entire separate band that has three of their members. They continue to tour today.
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The Descendents' original lineup was Frank Navetta on guitar, Tony Lombardo on bass, Bill Stevenson (presumably the Bill whose sperm is offered in "Der Wienerschnitzel", quoted at the top of the page) on drums, and Milo Aukerman on vocals. (Actually, Milo was not in the very first lineup, but he was added before the first album [which, to continue the digression, was actually an EP], and most fans would consider him one of the originals; some fans would even consider him the heart of the band.)
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The Descendents' original lineup was Frank Navetta on guitar, Tony Lombardo on bass, Bill Stevenson (presumably the Bill whose sperm is offered in "Der Wienerschnitzel", quoted at the top of the page) on drums, and Milo Aukerman on vocals. (Actually, vocals (actually, Milo was not in the very first lineup, but he was added before the first album [which, (which, to continue the digression, was actually an EP], EP), and most fans would consider him one of the originals; some fans would even consider him the heart of the band.)
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!!Former members:
-->Tony Lombardo, bass, 1979–85
-->Frank Navetta, guitar, 1977–83
-->Ray Cooper, vocals/guitar, 1982–86
-->Doug Carrion, bass, 1985-86
!!Current lineup:
-->Bill Stevenson, drums, 1977–present
-->Milo Aukerman, vocals, 1980–present
-->Karl Alvarez, bass, 1986–present
-->Steven Egerton, guitar, 1986–present
!!Main Discography:
!!Former members:
-->Tony Lombardo, bass, 1979–85
-->Frank Navetta, guitar, 1977–83
-->Ray Cooper, vocals/guitar, 1982–86
-->Doug Carrion, bass, 1985-86
!!Current lineup:
-->Bill Stevenson, drums, 1977–present
-->Milo Aukerman, vocals, 1980–present
-->Karl Alvarez, bass, 1986–present
-->Steven Egerton, guitar, 1986–present
!!Main Discography:
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!!Former members:
-->Tony Lombardo, bass, 1979–85
-->Frank Navetta, guitar, 1977–83
-->Ray Cooper, vocals/guitar, 1982–86
-->Doug Carrion, bass, 1985-86
!!Current lineup:
-->Bill Stevenson, drums, 1977–present
-->Milo Aukerman, vocals, 1980–present
-->Karl Alvarez, bass, 1986–present
-->Steven Egerton, guitar, 1986–present
!!Main Discography:
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* Bill Stevenson (drums, 1977–present)
* Milo Aukerman (vocals, 1980–present)
* Karl Alvarez (bass, 1986–present)
* Stephen Egerton (guitar, 1986–present)
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* Tony Lombardo (bass, 1979–85)
* Frank Navetta (guitar, 1977–83)
* Ray Cooper (vocals/guitar, 1982–86)
* Doug Carrion (bass, 1985-86)
!!Discography:
* ''Liveage!'' (1987, live album)
* ''Hallraker!'' (1989, live album)
* ''Live Plus One'' (2001, live album; also includes songs from All)
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* "Suffrage" (2021, single)
* "That's the Breaks" (2021, single)
* ''9th & Walnut'' (2021)
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!!I'm Not a
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* LeadDrummer: As stated above on the members' list, Bill Stevenson is [[TheConstant the only consistent member]].
* LongRunnerLineup: While they were a bit of a RevolvingDoorBand early on, since '86, they've kept the lineup of Milo, Bill, Stephen, and Karl.
* LongRunnerLineup: While they were a bit of a RevolvingDoorBand early on, since '86, they've kept the lineup of Milo, Bill, Stephen, and Karl.
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* LeadDrummer: As stated above on the members' list, Bill Stevenson is has been [[TheConstant the only consistent member]].
member]] in the band's history.
* LongRunnerLineup: While they were a bit of a RevolvingDoorBand early on, since'86, 1986 they've kept the lineup of Milo, Bill, Stephen, and Karl.
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** "Tonyage" name drops LA punk bands Fear and the Urinals. It also mentions Germs singer Darby Crash, along with Crash's previous StageName, Bobby Pyn.
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* VulgarHumor- Overuse of this got a rather icy reception for "Enjoy!", with the opening track and "Orgofart" both being particularly fart-obsessed tracks. The album still has it's fans regardless.
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* ShoutOut: The outro to "Mass Nerder" is a reference to Music/TheGerms. The "We must read" bit is sung to the tune of their song "We Must Bleed", and "Somebody get me a book!" is a variation on Darby Crash's famous "Somebody get me a beer!"
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* ShoutOut: The outro to "Mass Nerder" is a reference to Music/TheGerms. The "We must read" bit is sung to the tune of their song "We Must Bleed", and "Somebody get me a book!" is a variation on Darby Crash's famous "Somebody get me a beer!"beer!". The song title is somewhere between a ShoutOut and a CallBack - All had an otherwise unrelated album called ''Mass Nerder''.