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** Much later on in ''Dragon Age'', when you've leveled up a lot more and your personal reputation has been well established, you can talk to a city guardsman named Sgt. Kylon in Denerim. Although there's still a bounty on your head for your supposed treason, he explains that even if he believed the claims of treason, which he doesn't, he still would have no interest in attempting to arrest you. "If I asked my men to apprehend you, [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere they'd all run]] and [[TearsOfFear cry big, sobby tears]] in their courtesan's bosoms and leave me all alone [[CurbStompBattle to be skewered]]." You can then discuss helping out the guards, at which point he asks you about chasing some mercenaries out of a brothel. "I said beat down, not kill. Let me make that really clear. Not on fire, or exploded, or Maker knows whatever type of grisly death you can dream up... Sorry, used to giving orders to my boys." After you successfully complete this task, he meets you halfway back to the city market area to give you your pay, only to have the leader of the mercenaries come after you in a towering rage. Upon seeing you in action, Sgt. Kylon's only response is "And people actually voluntarily attack you? Are they just stupid?"

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** Much later on in ''Dragon Age'', when you've leveled up a lot more and your personal reputation has been well established, you can talk to a city guardsman named Sgt. Kylon in Denerim. Although there's still a bounty on your head for your supposed treason, he explains that even if he believed the claims of treason, which he doesn't, he still would have no interest in attempting to arrest you. "If I asked my men to apprehend you, [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere they'd all run]] and [[TearsOfFear cry big, sobby tears]] in their courtesan's bosoms and leave me all alone [[CurbStompBattle to be skewered]]." You can then discuss helping out the guards, at which point he asks you about chasing some mercenaries out of a brothel. "I said beat down, not kill. Let me make that really clear. Not on fire, or exploded, or Maker knows whatever type of grisly death you can dream up... Sorry, used to giving orders to my boys." After you successfully complete this task, he meets you halfway back to the city market area to give you your pay, only to have the leader of the mercenaries come after you in a towering rage. Upon seeing you in action, Sgt. Kylon's only response is "And "[[SuicidalOverconfidence And people actually voluntarily attack you? Are they just stupid?"stupid]]?"
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** Random encounters become this when you're overleveled. Unless there's an [[AntiGrinding encounter limit]] or [[Videogame/EarthBound the AI is smart enough to avoid you]], monsters will keep throwing themselves into a losing battle

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** Random encounters become this when you're overleveled. Unless there's an [[AntiGrinding encounter limit]] or [[Videogame/EarthBound [[VideoGame/EarthBound1994 the AI is smart enough to avoid you]], monsters will keep throwing themselves into a losing battlebattle.
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***There is a minor encounter in Awakening involving a hostage situation where you can directly explain to the bad guys [[YouHaveNoIdeaWhoYoureDealingWith who you are and what you have done]]. They panic, and their leader has to convince them not to immediately give up. One of the hostage takers, clearly The Smartest Man in Ferelden, bolts and jumps off a cliff into a stormy ocean filled with jagged rocks rather than take his chances against the Warden.
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** The first chapter of Gaius's sidestory in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 ends with a [[MultiMookMeele battle against a mob]] of [[FantasticRacism Rieze Maxia-hating]] Elympions. Being perfectly ordinary humans, they're all pathetically weak, but they just keep coming.

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** The first chapter of Gaius's sidestory in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' ends with a [[MultiMookMeele [[MultiMookMelee battle against a mob]] of [[FantasticRacism Rieze Maxia-hating]] Elympions. Being perfectly ordinary humans, they're all pathetically weak, weak and stand no chance against a group of veterant warriors, but they just keep coming.

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* The first groupings of mooks you fight in ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' tend to be bandits and rogue mages. Why they choose to mug a kid carrying a two-foot long bowie knife and a buckler and his buddy who clearly knows several forms of karate is a mystery.

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The first groupings of mooks you fight in ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' tend to be bandits and rogue mages. Why they choose to mug a kid carrying a two-foot long bowie knife and a buckler and his buddy who clearly knows several forms of karate is a mystery.mystery.
** The first chapter of Gaius's sidestory in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 ends with a [[MultiMookMeele battle against a mob]] of [[FantasticRacism Rieze Maxia-hating]] Elympions. Being perfectly ordinary humans, they're all pathetically weak, but they just keep coming.
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* Who would attempt to rob a group of travelers consisting of a huge, scarred man, an [[KnightTemplar animated suit of armor carrying a huge axe]], a MagicKnight with an EmpathicWeapon, a street-savvy [[HalfHumanHybrid half-demonic]] ActionGirl, a [[HornyDevil succubus]], a [[PowerFloats floating]] and [[IncendiaryExponent Has constantly alight]] AxCrazy mage, a rogue from a [[MechaMooks robotic]] HiveMind, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a wisecracking floating skull]]? If ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' is to be believed, every thug in the goddamn [[WretchedHive Hive]]. Although keep in mind, this is ''Sigil''. Those thugs have probably seen worse by just living there a year, and it's not like most of you wear any equipment that mark you out as particularly dangerous. Well, at least not early on.

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* Who would attempt to rob a group of travelers consisting of a huge, scarred man, an [[KnightTemplar animated suit of armor carrying a huge axe]], a MagicKnight with an EmpathicWeapon, a street-savvy [[HalfHumanHybrid half-demonic]] ActionGirl, a [[HornyDevil [[SuccubiAndIncubi succubus]], a [[PowerFloats floating]] and [[IncendiaryExponent Has constantly alight]] AxCrazy mage, a rogue from a [[MechaMooks robotic]] HiveMind, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a wisecracking floating skull]]? If ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' is to be believed, every thug in the goddamn [[WretchedHive Hive]]. Although keep in mind, this is ''Sigil''. Those thugs have probably seen worse by just living there a year, and it's not like most of you wear any equipment that mark you out as particularly dangerous. Well, at least not early on.
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** Early in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', you come across some bandits trying to extort "tolls" from refugees. When they try to pull this on your group (typically at that point consisting of a mage, a mage-hunter, a war dog, and whatever the player character rolled as), one of your possible responses is basically "[[YouHaveGOTToBeKiddingMe Are you serious?]] [[LampshadeHanging Look at us!]]" You can actually turn the situation on its head, and demand that the bandits pay up. You can, alternately, reveal to them that you're a Grey Warden. The Grey Wardens are, by the way, wanted for treason and apparently murdering the king, which you can point out to the bandits, at which point the leader will immediately crap himself, stand aside, and bid you a good day and to "continue on with your king-killing ways." And, if you're playing a mage, you can make this known to them. Cue the whimpers of "[[BalefulPolymorph I don't wanna be a toad!]]"

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** Early in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', you come across some bandits trying to extort "tolls" from refugees. When they try to pull this on your group (typically at that point consisting of a mage, a mage-hunter, a war dog, and whatever the player character rolled as), one of your possible responses is basically "[[YouHaveGOTToBeKiddingMe Are you serious?]] [[LampshadeHanging Look at us!]]" You can actually turn the situation on its head, and demand that the bandits pay up. You can, alternately, reveal to them that you're a Grey Warden. The Grey Wardens are, by the way, wanted for treason and apparently murdering the king, which you can point out to the bandits, at which point the leader will immediately crap himself, stand aside, and bid you a good day and to "continue on with your king-killing ways." And, if you're playing a mage, you can make this known to them. Cue the whimpers of "[[BalefulPolymorph "[[ForcedTransformation I don't wanna be a toad!]]"
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* Featured in trailers to ''VideoGame/TheSecretWorld'', in which the representatives of each faction are attacked by minor demons and easily fight them off. Arguably the best example of this crops up in TheIlluminati trailer: in this case, [[TheMeanBrit Alex McCall]] is attacked in a pub bathroom by a tentacled monster; despite being less than three feet away from the creature, [=McCall=] doesn't even step away from the urinal, distracting the monster with an illusion before obliterating it with a blast of chaos magic. Cut to black, as [=McCall=] ''finally'' zips up his fly and leaves.

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* Featured in trailers to ''VideoGame/TheSecretWorld'', in which the representatives of each faction are attacked by minor demons and easily fight them off. Arguably the best example of this crops up in TheIlluminati trailer: in this case, [[TheMeanBrit Alex McCall]] McCall is attacked in a pub bathroom by a tentacled monster; despite being less than three feet away from the creature, [=McCall=] doesn't even step away from the urinal, distracting the monster with an illusion before obliterating it with a blast of chaos magic. Cut to black, as [=McCall=] ''finally'' zips up his fly and leaves.
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** Conversley, Baldur's attack on Kratos really does end up playing this trope straight. Baldur thinks he is confronting a member of the Jotun. In reality, he is antagonizing the Greek God of War (and possibly also their God of Death) the day of his wife's funeral. Despite being given every opportunity to walk away, Baldur attacks the one being in the Nine Realms not bound to this mythology's terms of fate and destiny. In doing so, Baldur directly causes his own death, the deaths of Magni, Modi, and Dagsetr, the freeing of Mimir, the release of the Valkyries, Freya's mind snapping, the reconciliation of Brok and Sindri, and the starting of Fimbulwinter (and thereby Ragnarok) a full century early. None of these are what Odin intended when he sent Baldur to that little cabin in the woods, and it is doubtful he is pleased by any of it. They should have left Kratos alone.
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** Samara's loyalty mission features a turian named Meln in the VIP area of a nightclub who will crassly proposition Shepard when she intervenes to keep him from sexually harassing (and possibly assaulting) an [[BlueSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] dancer. Cue Meln being punched, then thrown in the general direction of the door. And if Shepard is wearing a certain [[DownloadableContent DLC]] outfit, then this is done by a woman in high heels and a LittleBlackDress.

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** Samara's loyalty mission features a turian named Meln in the VIP area of a nightclub who will crassly proposition Shepard when she intervenes to keep him from sexually harassing (and possibly assaulting) an [[BlueSkinnedSpaceBabe [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] dancer. Cue Meln being punched, then thrown in the general direction of the door. And if Shepard is wearing a certain [[DownloadableContent DLC]] outfit, then this is done by a woman in high heels and a LittleBlackDress.
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--> ''Dredgen Yor:'' Your mouth just got your friends dead.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Rimworld}}'' your trade caravans might get held up by muggers in a random encounter, demanding some items they carry. These muggers are usually equipped with knives, clubs, shortbows, or shoddy guns. The items they demand often tend to be the expensive high-quality guns your traders are equipped with. You can hand them over peacefully... or bullets first.
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* In ''[[VideoGame/DarkSun Dark Sun: Shattered Lands]]'' when the player party leaves the arena (which serves as a playable demo), they meet the rat-people in the sewers — those at least have enough self-preservation instinct when the party refuses to pay. Then several gangs in the desert try to rob them. ''[[VideoGame/DarkSun Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager]]'' starts with [[EliteMooks Draxans]] murdering Veiled Alliance agent and mistaking the player party for easily-disposable bystanders. Shortly after, the party is attacked by street muggers a few levels below them.
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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show you what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman -- a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user -- who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show you what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman -- a skilled [[KnifeNut [[DeviousDaggers knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user -- who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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* This trope combined with SelfFulfillingProphecy sets the stage for the conflict of VideoGame/PathfinderWrathOfTheRighteous. The ancient nation of Sarkoris was surprisingly egalitarian in most regards, but [[AntiMagicalFaction brutally persecuted all users of arcane magic]] out of the belief that it was far too dangerous to be allowed. This would eventually lead them to [[BigBad Areelu Vorlesh]]... who eventually responded to their attacks with an EarthShatteringKaboom that spelled the end of Sarkoris.
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*** It's possible to get accosted by a highwayman [[WhatAnIdiot WHILE IN WEREWOLF FORM]].

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*** It's possible to get accosted by a highwayman [[WhatAnIdiot WHILE IN WEREWOLF FORM]].FORM.
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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman -- a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user -- who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show you what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman -- a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user -- who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman - a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user - who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of the woman - -- a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user - -- who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of a woman who is a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of a the woman who is - a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user.user - who killed one of his accomplices. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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*** ''Skyrim'' even has a specific isolated example in Ravenscar Hollow, a cave occupied by a pair of [[WitchSpecies hagravens]] and their minions, including a cave troll. Partway into the cave, the player can find a caged bandit who begs to be released and will help you out; after you defeat the monsters (again, the very same ones that captured him and all his buddies), he [[UngratefulBastard announces his intent to rob you blind]].

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*** ''Skyrim'' even has a specific isolated example in Ravenscar Hollow, a cave occupied by a pair of [[WitchSpecies hagravens]] hagravens and their minions, including a cave troll. Partway into the cave, the player can find a caged bandit who begs to be released and will help you out; after you defeat the monsters (again, the very same ones that captured him and all his buddies), he [[UngratefulBastard announces his intent to rob you blind]].
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** Samara's loyalty mission features a turian named Meln in the VIP area of a nightclub who will crassly proposition [[FanNickname FemShep]] when she intervenes to keep him from sexually harassing (and possibly assaulting) an [[BlueSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] dancer. Cue Meln being punched, then thrown in the general direction of the door. And if Shepard is wearing a certain [[DownloadableContent DLC]] outfit, then this is done by a woman in high heels and a LittleBlackDress.

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** Samara's loyalty mission features a turian named Meln in the VIP area of a nightclub who will crassly proposition [[FanNickname FemShep]] Shepard when she intervenes to keep him from sexually harassing (and possibly assaulting) an [[BlueSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] dancer. Cue Meln being punched, then thrown in the general direction of the door. And if Shepard is wearing a certain [[DownloadableContent DLC]] outfit, then this is done by a woman in high heels and a LittleBlackDress.
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* This is a staple in the ''{{Franchise/Hitman}}'' series of videogames. There are multiple ways to kill targets, and many of those scenarios involve the target threatening [[Characters/HitmanGamesAgent47 the world's best assassin]].
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** In ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', after the Saints get hit with a campaign of desprestige, you can find random [=NPCs=] in the map, holding signs telling the Saints to Leave Steelport. Pass by them and they'll insult or even attack you. Yeah, not the smartest choice to attack someone [[RedBaron who is known as "The Stillwater Butcher"]].

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** In ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', after the Saints get hit with a campaign of desprestige, you can find random [=NPCs=] in the map, holding signs telling the Saints to Leave Steelport. Pass by them and they'll insult or even attack you. Yeah, not the smartest choice to attack someone [[RedBaron who is known as "The Stillwater Stilwater Butcher"]].
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*** By ''Mass Effect 3''', however, the most common reaction normal would-be antagonists have is [[TheDreaded "Oh, shit! It's SHEPARD!"]], so the whole Mugging the Monster scenario is far, far rarer.

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*** The Dark Brotherhood questline begins with the guild leader kidnapping the Dragonborn, sticking them in a room with three hostages, and declaring that someone would have to die before they could escape, as a prelude to offering them membership. The dumb part is that ''she's'' in the room too, and apparently never considers taking measures against an annoyed Dragonborn deciding to kill ''her'' instead of the designated victims.
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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people against internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of a woman who is a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people against from internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of a woman who is a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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** Though since the ''Pokémon'' universe runs on DefeatMeansFriendship, this trope could arguably be justified as a way of trying to make (powerful) new friends.

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* In ''VideoGame/OctopathTraveler'', the climax of Primrose's Chapter 3 has her confronting the Right Hand of the Crow in revenge for murdering her father Geoffrey ten years ago. This Crow Man in particular is revealed to be Albus, the former captain of the city watch and a friend of her father's who [[FallenHero eventually]] [[EvilFormerFriend betrayed him]] for [[ItsAllAboutMe his own]] [[EvilIsPetty petty]] financial and political gain. For no good reason, Albus decides it would be a great idea to [[SpeakIllOfTheDead insult Primrose's deceased father]] [[MockingTheMourner in front of her]], claiming that Geoffrey spoke of how having faith was in itself enough to protect Noblecourt from any danger, and that his murder "goes to show what the faith of a fool is worth". Not only is Albus twisting Geoffrey's stance on faith (i.e. that it protects people against internal despair and lets them continue on the path they have chosen) into something [[BlatantLies completely untrue]], but he says this in front of a woman who is a skilled [[KnifeNut knife combatant]] and a powerful [[CastingAShadow dark magic]] user. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong



** In ''Heart Gold'' and ''Soul Silver'', the first Pokémon in your party follows you around on the overworld, outside of its Pokéball. This trope approaches TooDumbToLive levels when Youngster Joey decides to take on you and your {{Olympus Mon|s}}.

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** In ''Heart Gold'' ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver HeartGold and ''Soul Silver'', SoulSilver]]'', the first Pokémon in your party follows you around on the overworld, outside of its Pokéball. This trope approaches TooDumbToLive levels when Youngster Joey decides to take on you and your {{Olympus Mon|s}}.
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*** ''Skyrim'' has another example in the Hearthfire {{DLC}}, where a random scripted event involves a bandit named Rochelle the Red [[IHaveYourWife kidnapping your character's spouse]] and demanding a ransom. It's unfortunately subverted in regards to your spouse: doesn't matter if you married a super-powerful warrior who can turn into a werewolf, an arch-wizard who knows Master-level magic, or a vampire who's older than the current Empire, [[DistressBall they all get kidnapped without putting up a fight because the plot says so.]]

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*** ''Skyrim'' has another example in the Hearthfire {{DLC}}, DownloadableContent, where a random scripted event involves a bandit named Rochelle the Red [[IHaveYourWife kidnapping your character's spouse]] and demanding a ransom. It's unfortunately subverted in regards to your spouse: doesn't matter if you married a super-powerful warrior who can turn into a werewolf, an arch-wizard who knows Master-level magic, or a vampire who's older than the current Empire, [[DistressBall they all get kidnapped without putting up a fight because the plot says so.]]

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