History MoralEventHorizon / GameOfThrones

* Wanting to kill [[spoiler: the innocent Myrcella in revenge for Oberyn's demise]] is appallingly bad on its own, but [[spoiler: going through with it after Prince Doran mercifully grants Ellaria and the Sand Snakes a second chance]] puts all of those women way past redemption. And they only go further in the Season 6 premiere when they [[spoiler:kill Doran and Trystane as well, all in the name of "avenging" Oberyn. That act is even considered to be kinslaying, which is one of the worst crimes in Westeros]].

* Polliver [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild killing Lommy Greenhands]] by stabbing him in the throat. It certainly doesn't help that he's revealed to be a serial child molester, even by the lax standards of [[CrapsackWorld Westeros]].]]

* Polliver [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild killing Lommy Greenhands]] by stabbing him in the throat. And surprise, [[PrecisionFStrike sur-fucking-prise]], he turns out to be a [[PaedoHunt child molester.]]]]

Due to [[GreyAndGrayMorality the moral greyness]] of [[Series/GameOfThrones the series]], many characters avoid this trope in spite of performing some pretty terrible deeds, but there are still a few irredeemable bastards:

Due to [[GreyAndGrayMorality the moral greyness]] of the series, many characters avoid this trope in spite of performing some pretty terrible deeds, but there are still a few irredeemable bastards:

* Viserys Targaryen putting a sword to his pregnant sister's belly and threatening to cut her unborn child out of her, in front of the child's father no less. And he only does this because he's throwing a tantrum over not getting his way ''right now'' and because he's jealous of his sister's happiness. No coming back from that. Notably, Daenerys has put up with Viserys' abuse for years, forgiving him and making excuses for him, but at this point even she feels he's finally gone too far.

* Myranda loses all sympathy when she mockingly tells Sansa that she plans to dismember her body to make her life under [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Ramsay Bolton]] a FateWorseThanDeath. Some would argue she'd already crossed it long before though, as she actively participates in Ramsay's numerous rapes, tortures and murders, and appears to actively enjoy it as much as him. She actually persuaded Ramsay to kill one of his girlfriends because she was jealous of her and mockingly stated she wasn't "so pretty now" during her death.

** [[spoiler:Even the apparent PetTheDog moment when she tries to spare Tommen backfires. [[DrivenToSuicide Her actions cause him to commit suicide]], and, as if to hammer in the point home, after six seasons with her love for her children being her most redeeming quality, Cersei coldly brushes off her remaining child's death.]]

** And to top it off, [[spoiler:Cersei refuses to aid Jon and Dany who gave her proof that the ZombieApocalypse is real and decides to let the White Walkers finish them off. She doesn't care about humanity's survival and that these two have the best weapons and knowledge against the undead. All she cares about is herself even though Winter approaches on King's Landing. She's also willing to kill her own brother/lover on spot when he leaves her (though she doesn't actually go through with it), and after he leaves her, she orders his and Tyrion's deaths if they survive the war against the Night King]].

* Myranda loses all sympathy when she mockingly tells Sansa that she plans to dismember her body to make her life under [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Ramsay Bolton]] a FateWorseThanDeath.

* Viserys Targaryen putting a sword to his pregnant sister's belly. No coming back from that.

* [[BastardBastard Craster]] crossed it years ago when he decided to further his family line by raping his daughters, who would give birth to more daughters for him to have as extra wives. And his sons were basically sentenced to death.
* If Janos Slynt's betrayal of Ned didn't put him over the edge (he was only doing what he was paid for, after all), then [[spoiler:leading a massacre of Robert's bastards, including personally killing a baby]] certainly did.

* Dagmer [[spoiler:killing Maester Luwin entirely for the hell of it]].
* Kraznys mo Nakloz, the slave master of Astapor, crossed it long ago when he made each Unsullied kill a newborn baby in front of its mother at the end of their training.

* Viserys putting a sword to his pregnant sister's belly. No coming back from that.
* [[RoyalBrat Joffrey]] crossed it when he [[spoiler:has Ned executed]], especially since he first [[BaitTheDog made it look like he was going to do the exact opposite]]. This leads to [[spoiler:the North rising up against the Iron Throne and seceding from the realm. When confronted about his promise to be merciful, he coldly replies that [[ExactWords giving Ned such a quick and clean death was a mercy]].]] His actions after are a long series of [[KickTheDog kicking dogs]] whenever there isn't someone else to rein him in.

* If Janos' betrayal of Ned didn't put him over the edge (he was only doing what he was paid for, after all), then [[spoiler:leading a massacre of Robert's bastards, including personally killing a baby]] certainly did.
* Littlefinger threatens Ros by revealing that he serves up disobedient and nonperforming prostitutes to thrill-killers who torture them to death. From this point, it's clear that Littlefinger isn't just another schemer; he's evil to the core. As the show progresses, it turns out that this is only one horrible crime of many up his sleeve.
* Polliver [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild killing Lommy Greenhands]] by stabbing him in the throat. And surprise, sur-fucking-prise, he turns out to be a [[PaedoHunt child molester.]]]]

* Both Melisandre and Stannis finally cross the point of no return and become true villains when they [[spoiler:have Shireen burned alive in an attempt to ensure their victory over House Bolton]]. Numerous viewers, including long-time fans of Stannis, have turned on him for this act, and some are going so far as to root for the Boltons over him.

* [[StupidEvil Cersei]] had made a lot of evil choices over the course of the show, [[spoiler: but she solidifies herself as irredeemable in the Season 6 finale with the Green Trial, where she commits mass murder. Cersei [[KillItWithFire blows up the Sept of Baelor with wildfire]] and not only kills all the Sparrows, but also her uncle, cousin, the entire Tyrell family save for Olenna, and dozens of innocent people.]]

** [[BastardBastard Craster]] crossed it years ago when he decided to further his family line by raping his daughters, who would give birth to more daughters for him to have as extra wives. And his sons were basically sentenced to death.

* Any sympathy that could be had for [[OutlivingOnesOffspring Rickard Karstark]] is immediately shitcanned when [[WouldHurtACHild he murders two young, innocent squires in cold blood]] [[SinsOfOurFathers simply for bearing the Lannister name.]]
* If Janos' betrayal of Ned didn't put him over the edge (he was only doing what he was paid for, after all), then [[spoiler:leading a massacre of Robert's bastards, including personally killing a baby]] certainly did.

* [[TheBrute Gregor Clegane]], already established as a reprehensible piece of work, crosses it when he [[spoiler:has two hundred Northmen prisoners killed just to give the middle-finger to Robb Stark and his army.]] Even before then he slaughtered Tully villages and slagged off Cat Stark (a Tully, he dumps slaughtered fish as an insult.) Even if acting under Tywin this act results in the War of Five Kings.
** Another moment even before then is when he murdered Elia Martel's children in front of her, then raped her and then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bisected her]]. Granted, the first of these was an order by his liege Lord, but the way he did it and his actions afterwards is inexcusable.

* [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Bolton]] may be a monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was when he killed his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and the day Roose announced that Ramsay was legitimized was the happiest moment of the younger Bolton's life. When Roose threatened to disinherit Ramsay after Sansa escaped from him, Ramsay responded by murdering his father to cement his position as Lord of House Bolton, killing the one person in the world he ever loved.
** And shortly after, [[spoiler:he feeds his baby brother to his dogs, also to maintain his power.]]
* Smalljon Umber crosses it by [[spoiler:callously watching on as his proper liege Rickon Stark is murdered by Ramsay after delivering Rickon to him.]]
* The Waif of [[ProfessionalKiller The Faceless Men]] was merely a [[{{Jerkass}} thoroughly]] [[HateSink unlikable]] SadistTeacher towards Arya during her [[TrainingFromHell hellish training]] there. But [[spoiler: murdering Arya's pregnant caregiver Lady Crane in cold blood to spite her before attempting to take ''her'' life]] is when she crosses the line for good.

* Tywin Lannister definitely crosses it before [[spoiler:Tyrion snaps from his abuse and murders him]]:
** First contender: he is Gregor Clegane's boss, so the fact that he is ultimately responsible for much of the Mountain's atrocities could qualify. However, some may feel that may be too much of OffScreenVillainy to qualify.
** Second contender: he is the true mastermind behind [[spoiler:the Red Wedding]]. Then again, some might argue that he was simply being ruthlessly pragmatic.
** If neither the first nor second allowed him to cross the line, then he definitely crosses it with the third: [[spoiler:letting Tyrion take the fall for Joffrey's murder without caring the slightest bit if he's innocent and if he is executed as a result]]. It's very fitting that [[spoiler:he dies]] shortly afterwards.
* Littlefinger threatens Ros by revealing that he serves up disobedient and nonperforming prostitutes to thrill-killers who torture them to death. From this point, it's clear that Littlefinger isn't just another schemer; he's evil to the core. As the show progresses, it turns out that this is only one horrible crime of many up his sleeve.
* The [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] is one long crossing for Roose Bolton and [[spoiler: [[FromNobodyToNightmare Walder Frey]]. Walder had Robb Stark and all of his bannermen massacred ''just because he didn't marry Walder's daughter,'' and Roose turned on his fellow Northmen and personally killed his own king. It's also emphasized multiple times that in doing so, Walder killed guests beneath his roof, which is considered one of the worst crimes of all]]. One could argue that Tywin Lannister's organising the whole thing might itself make him applicable for this, though he at least has pragmatism as an excuse.
* [[BloodKnight Karl Tanner]] crosses it when he takes over Craster's Keep. He rapes and brutalizes Craster's daughters, drinks wine from a cup made out of the skull of [[spoiler:Commander Mormont]], and is willing to murder a baby just so he won't have one more mouth to feed.
** And [[BastardBastard Craster]] himself crossed it years ago when he decided to further his family line by raping his daughters, who would give birth to more daughters for him to have as extra wives. And his sons were basically sentenced to death.
* Balon Greyjoy chooses to abandon ''his own son'' after he [[spoiler:receives his genitals and a ransom demand]], saying that "he isn't a man anymore," despite Theon's entire predicament being due to a desperate wish to win love and acceptance from his father. Even scumbags like Walder Frey treat their kids better than this guy. His refusal to save Theon and his snide little insults at his [[spoiler:lack of manhood]] angers Yara so much that she calls him out on his behavior and begins preparations for a rescue mission.
* The overlords of Meereen fly far over the Moral Event Horizon before they even appear by crucifying over ''163'' slave children to mile-posts on the way to Meereen, just to piss Dany off. This is made worse as the first girl sacrificed visibly resembles Dany herself, making this slight at her seem even more intentional.
* Kraznys mo Nakloz, the slave master of Astapor, crossed it long ago when he made each Unsullied kill a newborn baby in front of its mother at the end of their training.
* The Sparrows at first seem like some of the most good people in the show, wanting to help out the common people in whatever way they can and prepared to sacrifice anything of their own to do it. Then they get the power of the Faith Militant and it turns out they're far more Westboro Baptist Church than Christian missionaries.
* Both Melisandre and Stannis finally cross the point of no return and become true villains when they [[spoiler:have Shireen burned alive in an attempt to ensure their victory over House Bolton]]. Numerous viewers, including long-time fans of Stannis, have turned on him for this act, and some are going so far as to root for the Boltons over him.
* Wanting to kill [[spoiler: the innocent Myrcella in revenge for Oberyn's demise]] is appallingly bad on its own, but [[spoiler: going through with it after Prince Doran mercifully grants Ellaria and the Sand Snakes a second chance]] puts all of those women way past redemption.
** And they only go further in the Season 6 premiere when they [[spoiler:kill Doran and Trystane as well, all in the name of "avenging" Oberyn. That act is even considered to be kinslaying, which is one of the worst crimes in Westeros]].

* The [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] is one long crossing for Roose Bolton and [[spoiler: [[FromNobodyToNightmare Walder Frey]]. Walder had Robb Stark and all of his bannermen massacred ''just because he didn't marry Walder's daughter,'' and Roose turned on his fellow Northmen and personally killed his own king]]. One could argue that Tywin Lannister's organising the whole thing might itself make him applicable for this, though he at least has pragmatism as an excuse.

->'''Davos''': You [[spoiler:burned a little girl alive]]!\\
'''[[spoiler:Melisandre]]''': [[IDidWhatIHadToDo I only do what my Lord commands!]]\\
'''Davos''': If He commands you to [[spoiler:burn children]], [[GodIsEvil your Lord is evil]]!

* [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Bolton]] may be a complete monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was when he killed his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and the day Roose announced that Ramsay was legitimized was the happiest moment of the younger Bolton's life. When Roose threatened to disinherit Ramsay after Sansa escaped from him, Ramsay responded by murdering his father to cement his position as Lord of House Bolton, killing the one person in the world he ever loved.

* [[TheSociopath Ramsay Bolton]] may be a complete monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was when he killed his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and the day Roose announced that Ramsay was legitimized was the happiest moment of the younger Bolton's life. When Roose threatened to disinherit Ramsay after Sansa escaped from him, Ramsay responded by murdering his father to cement his position as Lord of House Bolton, killing the one person in the world he ever loved.

* [[{{Sadist}} Joffrey]] crossed it when he [[spoiler:has Ned executed]], especially since he first [[BaitTheDog made it look like he was going to do the exact opposite]]. This leads to [[spoiler:the North rising up against the Iron Throne and seceding from the realm. When confronted about his promise to be merciful, he coldly replies that [[ExactWords giving Ned such a quick and clean death was a mercy]].]] His actions after are a long series of [[KickTheDog kicking dogs]] whenever there isn't someone else to rein him in.

* Joffrey crossed it when he [[spoiler:has Ned executed]], especially since he first [[BaitTheDog made it look like he was going to do the exact opposite]]. This leads to [[spoiler:the North rising up against the Iron Throne and seceding from the realm. When confronted about his promise to be merciful, he coldly replies that [[ExactWords giving Ned such a quick and clean death was a mercy]].]] His actions after are a long series of [[KickTheDog kicking dogs]] whenever there isn't someone else to rein him in.
* Gregor Clegane, already established as a reprehensible piece of work, crosses it when he [[spoiler:has two hundred Northmen prisoners killed just to give the middle-finger to Robb Stark and his army.]] Even before then he slaughtered Tully villages and slagged off Cat Stark (a Tully, he dumps slaughtered fish as an insult.) Even if acting under Tywin this act results in the War of Five Kings.

* Ramsay Bolton may be a complete monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was when he killed his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and the day Roose announced that Ramsay was legitimized was the happiest moment of the younger Bolton's life. When Roose threatened to disinherit Ramsay after Sansa escaped from him, Ramsay responded by murdering his father to cement his position as Lord of House Bolton, killing the one person in the world he ever loved.

* The [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] is one long crossing for Roose Bolton and [[spoiler:Walder Frey. Walder had Robb Stark and all of his bannermen massacred ''just because he didn't marry Walder's daughter,'' and Roose turned on his fellow Northmen and personally killed his own king]]. One could argue that Tywin Lannister's organising the whole thing might itself make him applicable for this, though he at least has pragmatism as an excuse.
* Karl Tanner crosses it when he takes over Craster's Keep. He rapes and brutalizes Craster's daughters, drinks wine from a cup made out of the skull of [[spoiler:Commander Mormont]], and is willing to murder a baby just so he won't have one more mouth to feed.
** And Craster himself crossed it years ago when he decided to further his family line by raping his daughters, who would give birth to more daughters for him to have as extra wives. And his sons were basically sentenced to death.

* Ramsay Bolton may be a complete monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was when he killed his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and the day Roose announced that Ramsay was legitimized was the happiest moment of his life. When Roose threatened to disinherit Ramsay after Sansa escaped from him, Ramsay responded by murdering his father to cement his position as Lord of House Bolton, killing the one person in the world he actually loved.

* Ramsay Bolton may be a complete monster who enjoys physically, psychologically, and sexually tormenting people and commits atrocities as casually as most people eat breakfast, but the moment he lost his last shred of humanity was the murder of his father, Roose Bolton. Regardless of the fact that Roose was a pretty horrible person himself, he was the only one who ever brought out Ramsay's human, vulnerable side. Ramsay always dropped the smirk and "playful" voice with his father, and Roose seemed to be the only person in the world Ramsay ever came close to loving. Even though Roose legitimized his son, Ramsay ultimately murdered him to build his own power, and with Roose's death went Ramsay's last shred of humanity.

* The moment that Ramsay crosses the line would be when he [[YankTheDogsChain falsely gave Theon a way out]] [[JustToyingWithThem just so he can psychologically break him]].

* Ramsay has ''several'' of these moments:
** The moment that he first crosses the line would be when he [[YankTheDogsChain falsely gave Theon a way out]] [[JustToyingWithThem just so he can psychologically break him]].
** It only gets worse from there, as the entirety of Theon's torture scene serves to prove how much of a monster Ramsay is, as his sadistic acts of violence against Theon are [[ForTheEvulz purely for his own enjoyment]]. As Roose points out, such horrific treatment of a potentially valuable hostage [[StupidEvil doesn't even make any pragmatic sense]] - by [[spoiler:castrating Theon and mailing his dick to Castle Pyke to taunt the Greyjoys]], among everything else, Ramsay has robbed House Bolton of a bargaining chip.
** Even though he's well across the line by Season 5, [[spoiler:his rape of Sansa, complete with forcing "Reek" to watch]] is often seen as being even worse than what he did to Theon, and has pretty much convinced anyone who gave him a DracoInLeatherPants treatment that there is nothing redeemable about him.
** Ramsay goes on to make these actions look ''mild'' in comparison when he goes on to [[spoiler: stab his father to death and shortly after murdering his stepmother and [[WouldHurtAChild half-brother]] by [[CruelAndUnusualDeath feeding them to the hounds]].]]
** He '''''then''''' goes on to [[spoiler: murder Osha and Rickon; especially vile when he made it look like he was going to let the latter return to Jon.]] Though by this point, he's lost all vindication, and only drives even further down the city limits of IrredeemableMotherfuckerville.

* The Waif of [[ProfessionalKiller The Faceless Men]] was merely a [[{{Jerkass}} thoroughly]] [[HateSink unlikable]] SadistTeacher towards Arya during her [[TrainingFromHell hellish training]] there. But [[spoiler: murdering Arya's pregnant caregiver Lady Crane in cold blood to spite her beforfe attempting to take ''her'' life]] is when she crosses the line for good.

* Thought Meryn Trant wasn't already bad enough? The last two episodes of Season 5 say otherwise. [[spoiler: Being a pedophile is horrible enough, but the sick bastard legitimately ''gets off'' from beating prepubescent girls with a switch.]] Thank goodness [[spoiler: Arya saved them before his abuse went too far, and gave Trant the utterly satisfying death he deserved.]]

* Thought Meryn Trant wasn't already bad enough? The last two episodes of Season 5 say otherwise. [[spoiler: Being a pedophile is horrible enough, but the sick bastard legitimately ''gets off'' from beating prepubescent girls with a switch.]] Thank goodness [[spoiler: Arya saved them from his abuse and gave Trant the utterly satisfying death he deserved.]]